PolitiFact’s biggest lie

posted at 8:40 pm on December 17, 2010 by Karl

The easy joke is that PolitiFact naming “government takeover of health care” as the 2010 Lie of the Year is PolitiFact’s biggest lie. I do not think that is true, for reasons which will become apparent below. However, there is plenty wrong with PolitiFact’s claim:

“Government takeover” conjures a European approach where the government owns the hospitals and the doctors are public employees. But the law Congress passed, parts of which have already gone into effect, relies largely on the free market:

Employers will continue to provide health insurance to the majority of Americans through private insurance companies.

• Contrary to the claim, more people will get private health coverage. The law sets up “exchanges” where private insurers will compete to provide coverage to people who don’t have it.

• The government will not seize control of hospitals or nationalize doctors.

• The law does not include the public option, a government-run insurance plan that would have competed with private insurers.

• The law gives tax credits to people who have difficulty affording insurance, so they can buy their coverage from private providers on the exchange. But here too, the approach relies on a free market with regulations, not socialized medicine.

PolitiFact reporters have studied the 906-page bill and interviewed independent health care experts. We have concluded it is inaccurate to call the plan a government takeover because it relies largely on the existing system of health coverage provided by employers.

It’s true that the law does significantly increase government regulation of health insurers. But it is, at its heart, a system that relies on private companies and the free market.

Let’s start with the straw man that “a ‘government takeover’ conjures a European approach where the government owns the hospitals and the doctors are public employees.” By this measure, there has been no government takeover of healthcare in countries like France or Switzerland. Even in England, most doctors, dentists, optometrists and other providers of local healthcare are self-employed, and contract their services back to the NHS. If PolitiFact wants to invoke the “European approach” to healthcare, it might help if they could accurately describe it.

Next, PolitiFact relies heavily on the fact that people — most Americans — will continue to be insured by private insurers. However, the government is projected to outspend the private sector on health care by 2012, before ObamaCare is even phased in — and as the government becomes the dominant purchaser of health care in America, it will surely have control above and beyond that legislated. Moreover, as Michael Kinsley (founding editor of Slate, which PolitiFact relies upon as an authority) asked about ObamaCare:

If the government requires insurers to accept all customers and charge all the same price, regulates all aspects of their marketing to make sure they aren’t discriminating, and then redistributes the profits to make sure that no company gets penalized unfairly, in what sense is the industry still “private”?

It’s an inconvenient point PolitiFact chooses not to address, but it gets worse:

The [law's] rules governing medical loss ratios—which determine what percentage of an insurance company’s operating budget can be devoted to administrative costs and profit—were set at the maximum threshold at which the Congressional Budget Office would decline to include the cost of private insurance premiums in its cost estimates; crossing that threshold would have made the bill far more expensive. Currently, the ratios are set at 80 percent for the small group market and 85 percent for the large group market, meaning that insurers must make certain that either 80 or 85 percent of their budgets are spent on “clinical services.” Those ratios are as high as they can be while still leaving insurers some semblance of independence; if nationwide MLRs were set even a single point higher, according to the CBO, health insurance would constitute “an essentially governmental program.”

In other words, in the CBO’s view, the new health care law walked right up to the government-takeover line, but didn’t technically cross it.

Considering that any definition of a medical-loss ratio is inherently arbitrary, the fact that the Democrats gamed a judgment by the CBO is hardly conclusive of whether the private health insurance market should be considered (in the words of the CBO) “an essentially governmental program.”

PolitiFact places weight on the notion that ObamaCare lacks a government-run insurance plan. PolitiFact overlooks that most of the expansion of coverage in ObamaCare comes from sticking an estimated 16 million people on Medicaid — where recipients fare worse or no better than those who have no insurance at all. If MassCare is any indicator (and ObamaCare defenders love to compare it to RomneyCare), some of those new Medicare clients will be people dumped from employer-provided coverage. Indeed, ObamaCare immediately had employers planning to dump retirees in to Medicare (and those without the political juice to get a government waiver may yet dump them). The lack of a new government-run plan does not change the expansion of the already existing government health plans.

Then there are those “independent health care experts” PolitiFact consulted. One of them is “Princeton University professor Uwe Reinhardt, an expert in health care economics.” PolitiFact leaves out his $2,300 donation to Barack Obama. Here’s a bit more of the wit and wisdom of Uwe, to give you a flavor of how impartial he is on the subject of government-run healthcare.

Next up is Jonathan Oberlander, “a professor of health policy at the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill.” Oberlander is in fact a political scientist who has written a great deal on the politics of the health care issue — which makes him about as much of an expert as I am. (At least Uwe Reinhardt has a Ph.D in economics.) Oberlander’s opinion that a single-payer government financing of health care is not “socialized medicine” tells you what his politics are.

PolitiFact also quotes Maggie Mahar, author of Money-Driven Medicine: The Real Reason Health Care Costs So Much. Well-known among those who follow the issue as a market-hating health care expert, I am not exactly shocked that she told PolitiFact what PolitiFact so obviously wanted to hear. PolitiFact neglects to mention that Maggie Mahar is a fellow at The Century Foundation, a progressive think tank. (They also fail to mention that Mahar’s educational background is in English literature.)

In contrast, PolitiFact dismisses the Heritage Foundation and the Cato Institute as conservative groups repeating a “lie” [Aside: Cato is libertarian, but we must all look alike to PolitiFact]. Thus, PolitiFact chose not to seek the advice of any experts affiliated with those groups, like Cato’s Michael Cannon, who argues that ObamaCare is a government takeover of the health care system. The closest to a Republican, let alone conservative, in PolitiFact’s interview list is Gail Wilensky, who coincidentally goes unquoted by PolitiFact.

The point here is not that PolitiFact’s claim is a lie, or that PolitiFact is biased (although the latter is fairly obvious). Rather, the point is that the question of whether ObamaCare is a government takeover of the healthcare system is one of political opinion, not a simple question of fact. Indeed, the difference in opinion between those whom PolitiFact labels as liars and the CBO is a percentage point or so.

Accordingly, PolitiFact’s Biggest Lie is the one left unstated — that a political judgment call can be easily labeled as a “lie” in the first instance. However, for practical reasons, I do not condemn that lie. After all, the establishment media — of which PolitiFact is a part — is still in the business of trying to manufacture consent to a center-left political narrative. PolitiFact exists largely as an attempt to deligitimize certain political opinions. We now know which political opinion most bothered the establishment in 2010. That is a valuable service to everyone.

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New meme: What would candidate obama do? WWCOD

If only (candidate) Obama knew!

aquaviva on May 22, 2013 at 2:43 PM

I feel so sorry for you Obama-azz-dwelleres.

Suffocate from what you’ve consumed, you traitors.

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 2:43 PM

Dwellers…it ain’t Beluga caviar…you’ve been consuming Obama’s shit. Suffocate from it, slowly and painfully.

I hope that Messrs. Ailes and Murdoch will fight for the 1st, with all their might, and the help of the ACLU and any decent leftist, hah.

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 2:45 PM

Yup. And he WON which is all that counts in my book.

HotAirLib on May 22, 2013 at 1:38 PM

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 2:46 PM

Chuck “Frog” Todd discovers the scorpion.

Mr. D on May 22, 2013 at 2:46 PM

It’s just like the gun laws they want. A national registry prevents anyone from ever discussing in public whether or not they might have guns. You might have liberal (re: Communist) neighbors that would report you to the moral authorities…

Freakin’ USSA

kirkill on May 22, 2013 at 2:47 PM

It looks an awful lot like the administration is willing to go to frighteningly extreme lengths for the sake of information control.

Soviets would be proud.

goflyers on May 22, 2013 at 2:48 PM

At this point, can’t we just make Cuba the 58th state already?

kirkill on May 22, 2013 at 2:48 PM

Obviously, Todd and all those singing his same tune have lost all credibility. Worse, those on the Left are also traitors.

Love,
Obama’s Choirboys
Chris Matthews
Our trolls

Liam on May 22, 2013 at 2:48 PM

Hmmm but it is really satisfying to see them sweat too.

petunia on May 22, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Wow. They’ve gone too far even for Chuck Todd.

Can I get a Maddow?

Robert_Paulson on May 22, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Is this surprising? After all, it’s the Chicago Way.

Fred 2 on May 22, 2013 at 2:49 PM

The media I mean.

petunia on May 22, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Boo Hoo. Chuck Todd was right there with the effort to criminalize private gun ownership, in fact if not in name, via harassment of gun owners. Now all of a sudden I’m supposed to be outraged because his ox is getting gored.

It’s a serious thing, but I’m not buying the sudden respect for rights from most of these clowns.

JohnTant on May 22, 2013 at 2:50 PM

“Journalism is about covering important stories. With a pillow, until they stop moving.” – David Burge

kirkill on May 22, 2013 at 2:50 PM

Yup. And he WON which is all that counts in my book.

HotAirLib on May 22, 2013 at 1:38 PM

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 2:46 PM

Gad. And HAL’s book is Sal Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals too. Such a freakin’ idiot.

But true. I’m getting to the point that our only hope is that after the complete collapse of the United States, the sane people with all the guns can reinstall the Constitution and start over.

RESET!

kirkill on May 22, 2013 at 2:54 PM

In one way I cannot disagree – the U.S. media is probably comprised of many of the world’s most dishonest people. Many “journalists” lie on a level similar to Barack Obama or Marco Rubio. But, Obama only wants to criminalize those who don’t agree with him.

bw222 on May 22, 2013 at 2:54 PM

Let’s not forget that Chuck Todd’s wife (Christin Deny Todd) is a Democratic operative.

bw222 on May 22, 2013 at 2:55 PM

Big whoop. What are all these hyperventilating pearl-clutchers in the journalism field going to do about it? Nothing. They’re Obama’s kept b_tches and they know it.

Aitch748 on May 22, 2013 at 2:57 PM

May you journalists, aka lemmings, be the first useful idiots he jails.

txhsmom on May 22, 2013 at 2:57 PM

As Jim Geraghty put it at NRO, there is a clear pattern running through all of these scandals: It looks an awful lot like the administration is willing to go to frighteningly extreme lengths for the sake of information control.

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.

Be outraged. Use the law and a good portion of absolute moral authority to take this criminal enterprise down.

Dusty on May 22, 2013 at 2:59 PM

I don’t think Chuckie and his ilk will be turning in their Hope & Change autographed kneepads yet though…

Bruno Strozek on May 22, 2013 at 3:01 PM

Flashback:

Chavez Jokes He Is More Right-Wing Than ‘Comrade’ Obama

Forward!

visions on May 22, 2013 at 3:02 PM

Did IRS guidelines say teaching the Constitution is a political act?

Kerry Brentwood – Michigan

Shulman is squirming again.

Oh jeez, Shulman admits he doesn’t know the constitution and can’t recite it or explain 1, 2 or 19th amendments. Brentwood asks if he knows what TEA stands for – taxed enough already – Shulman says he didn’t know.

Looking at the fools and idiots in positions of power the rest of the world must be ROTFLTFAO at us.

wyntre9 on May 22, 2013 at 3:05 PM

Obama not born in Kenya. Born in East Berlin.

kurtzz3 on May 22, 2013 at 3:05 PM

What’s funny is, I think, Candidate Obama, if George Bush and Dick Cheney were doing this, imagine what Candidate Obama would say. Candidate Obama would be unloading.

No, what’s funny is how you tongue bathers have allowed him to shift all over the place while you turn a blind eye to it. For your failure to do your “job”, you’ve allowed this to happen. If he’d have been held accountable early in his career by the press, as a politician, do you think he would’ve made it this far? With this type of behavior? C’mon Chuck, by saying “Candidate Obama” you’re basically saying that you guys have been witness to this guy changing his positions and had the utter luxury of unrestrained freedom of movement to adapt his position to the situation at hand.

What good are you, Chuck???? See Obama and see your failure, it’s that simple, homeboy.

ted c on May 22, 2013 at 3:08 PM

Candidate Obama would be unloading.

I hate to break this to you, but Candidate Obama and President Obama are one and the same person.

This means that he played you, Chuckie. He told you a bunch of pretty, pretty lies and you swallowed them all. Let that sink in.

Saltyron on May 22, 2013 at 3:09 PM

Wow. They’ve gone too far even for Chuck Todd.

Can I get a Maddow?

Robert_Paulson on May 22, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Not going to happen. It’s going to get worse before it can get better.

Fenris on May 22, 2013 at 3:09 PM

It appears to me like the administration doesn’t even care what anyone thinks about what they’ve been doing. If the president were really “outraged” don’t you think someone’s head would roll? Who is he afraid of? Holder? Because what they’re doing is downright cowardly.

scalleywag on May 22, 2013 at 3:10 PM

Yup. And he WON which is all that counts in my book.
HotAirLib on May 22, 2013 at 1:38 PM

Should probably wait and see what the fallout from all this is before making a statement like that.

A lot of people are getting a taste of what ‘progressivism’ really means. I don’t think that’s going to work well for you guys.

rightmind on May 22, 2013 at 3:12 PM

A talking sock puppet that sleeps with the lowest form of prostitute. Willing to sell his soul and his kids for a few
peices of silver and a chance to fellate the kenyan.

acyl72 on May 22, 2013 at 3:13 PM

…our philosopher King?

This is why you have a parasitic criminal class near most college campuses and other concentrations of liberals.

Marks like tingles are the best, though. They never admit that they were mugged.

IlikedAUH2O on May 22, 2013 at 3:14 PM

So, F. Chuck Todd is a racist, along with Chris Matthews, for criticizing a Black President?

pjarhead on May 22, 2013 at 3:15 PM

Welcome to Chicago politics, F. Chuck Todd. These MSM reporters are truly fools.

Henry Bowman on May 22, 2013 at 3:16 PM

Lol!!! Chucky Todd. Starve!!! Bunch of damn fluffers.

Bmore on May 22, 2013 at 3:16 PM

Far as I’m concerned, these smug no-balz reporters can cry in their $10 lattes all week, while I laugh at them. Their liberalism and their precious Obama brought all this about, even though they were warned five years ago their candidate is a sleaze.

This is nothing. I think more have been spied on, including azz-kissers like Matthews. In any dictatorship, the biggest supporters are the ones most closely watched. There’s always a suspicion of heresy, and that has to be stamped out faster than any active opposition. Wait till Obamacare kicks in, too.

You reap what you sow. I hope their precious Obama gives them a bountiful harvest.

Liam on May 22, 2013 at 3:17 PM

scalleywag on May 22, 2013 at 3:10 PM

And why is it that they don’t care? Is it because they know nothing will happen to them? I have always thought the POS knows he’s untouchable and that’s probably because of the powers behind the throne.

wyntre9 on May 22, 2013 at 3:17 PM

Criminalize journalism?

Yes, chuck, journalism. It’s that profession that you haven’t been involved with over the last few years. Don’t worry, there’ll be plenty of jobs for leg humpers, tongue bathers and water carriers. Pays the same as you make right now, buddy.

ted c on May 22, 2013 at 3:20 PM

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

Well, I guess TECHNICALLY it doesn’t say the President can’t do any of these things. So there’s that.

UnderstandingisPower on May 22, 2013 at 3:21 PM

Lol!!! Chucky Todd. Starve!!! Bunch of damn fluffers.

Bmore on May 22, 2013 at 3:16 PM

Friend, pls. photoshop the 3 monkeys of oblivion: Holder Obama and Hillary.

Also, consider photoshopping the 3 stooges, same characters.

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Our trolls

Liam on May 22, 2013 at 2:48 PM

Someone appropriately misspelled them “trools” this morning. I kind of like that.

oldroy on May 22, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Yeah Chuckie-boy, sark on it. Too bad you weren’t one of the realjournalists when F&F, Bengazi, HHS, OSHA, IRS, EPA, WiretAP scandals were breaking.

It was the folks like the ones here at HA doing the real grunt work.

Turtle317 on May 22, 2013 at 3:23 PM

Were all of the groups that got slammed by the IRS in total red states ?Did any of them have Democrat senators or Democrat congressmen?Were the Democrats in the group that doesn’t know anything or did they just go along with it?The MSM is dead in this country.The only media left is sites like this.

docflash on May 22, 2013 at 3:23 PM

Someone appropriately misspelled them “trools” this morning. I kind of like that.

oldroy on May 22, 2013 at 3:22 PM

I saw that, and like it, too. Kind of a cross between ‘trolls’ and ‘tools’.

Maybe that commenter coined a new term exclusive to HotAir. Might even catch on with other Conservative sites.

Liam on May 22, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Chuck – Hope you like the change you have been promoting the last several years.

albill on May 22, 2013 at 3:30 PM

But, Benghazi is a political witch hunt…

d1carter on May 22, 2013 at 3:31 PM

The State Run Media thought they would be exempt from the repression…LOL.

d1carter on May 22, 2013 at 3:31 PM

It’s great to see Chuck Todd cheering on journalism and journalists! Someday he might consider abandoning the Ministry of Truth propaganda machine, and join in.

MTF on May 22, 2013 at 3:34 PM

Yup. And he WON which is all that counts in my book..

HotAirLib on May 22, 2013 at 1:38

Mighty short book ya got there.

Dope.

herm2416 on May 22, 2013 at 3:38 PM

Someone appropriately misspelled them “trools” this morning. I kind of like that.

oldroy on May 22, 2013 at 3:22 PM

I saw that, and like it, too. Kind of a cross between ‘trolls’ and ‘tools’.

Maybe that commenter coined a new term exclusive to HotAir. Might even catch on with other Conservative sites.

Liam on May 22, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Or trolls and fools. But I repeat myself.

IrishEyes on May 22, 2013 at 3:39 PM

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Lol! Okay, you got it. I’ll drop it off when its done. ; )

Bmore on May 22, 2013 at 3:41 PM

meh…there’s something pathetic how conservatives keep hoping these liberal journalists are going to start being even-handed…just wait, Chuck Todd and the rest of them will forgive and forget when it’s convenient.

blue13326 on May 22, 2013 at 3:41 PM

And somehow Obama’s Gallup approval is still in the 50s.

I swear…Even if Obama rounded up 1/2 the country to the gas chambers, 50+% of the country including some of the 1/2 going into the gas chambers would still approve of Obama’s job performance.

Varchild on May 22, 2013 at 3:46 PM

The first step in totalitarian rule is to silence the opposition by intimidation. Now we can clearly see what kind of government we are going to get.

kemojr on May 22, 2013 at 3:50 PM

they want to criminalize journalism

But the Tea Party, they should be criminalized.

Alabama Infidel on May 22, 2013 at 3:55 PM

Manure Spreading Media = Useful Idiots (V.I. Lenin)

Missilengr on May 22, 2013 at 3:56 PM

When you’ve lost you’re losing Chuck Toad…

bofh on May 22, 2013 at 4:05 PM

BreakingNews: Chuck Todd(D) has placed his inflatable Obama love doll on CraigsList… it is SO over…

DANEgerus on May 22, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Once leftist scumbag todd gets his assurances from the OBOZO regime that he isn’t a target – he’ll be back licking OBOZO’s boots before you can say “d-cRAT stooge.”

TeaPartyNation on May 22, 2013 at 4:07 PM

Let’s not forget that Chuck Todd’s wife (Christin Deny Todd) is a Democratic operative.

bw222 on May 22, 2013 at 2:55 PM

about three days before the election in 2008 there was a story out of Tennessee about two guys talking in a bar about shooting Senator Obama. Made big headlines with all the racial intoning that could be mustered. The gal that initiated the report was the wife of Kerry’s 2004 campaign manager. It caused me to research a whole lot of names associated with by-lines. The ties to journ-o-listers to the dem party are very strong.

And the story was bogus of course.

DanMan on May 22, 2013 at 4:08 PM

So, they want to criminalize journalism

Let me make sure I get my hands around all of this:

Criminalizing journalism, or in other words, restricting rights guaranteed under the First Amendment, is doubleungood.

Criminalizing gun ownership, or in other words, restricting rights guaranteed under the Second Amendment, is doubleplusgood.

NOW, it all makes sense

Tar Heel Sooner on May 22, 2013 at 4:15 PM

“Fundamentally change America!” The idiots that voted for this Commie had no idea what he was talking about because they never took the time to learn anything about this traitor to America!!

Deano1952 on May 22, 2013 at 4:18 PM

Candidate Obama would be unloading.

I hate to break this to you, but Candidate Obama and President Obama are one and the same person.

This means that he played you, Chuckie. He told you a bunch of pretty, pretty lies and you swallowed them all. Let that sink in.

Saltyron on May 22, 2013 at 3:09 PM

BINGO! I don’t think this will occur to the LSM as a whole, though. Nor will they ever call him on it.

fred5678 on May 22, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Hey Chuck,
You DID build that !!
Sleep with it !

Jabberwock on May 22, 2013 at 4:34 PM

Well Chuck, by being a gutless weasel, the alligator is going to eat you last. Don’t worry, he’s hungry.

rhombus on May 22, 2013 at 4:57 PM

So, they want to criminalize journalism, and that’s what it’s coming down to. If you end up essentially criminalizing journalism when it comes to reporting on the federal government…

.
Actually, Chuck, the way journalism has been practiced in the age of Øbama is criminal. You have a lot to atone for, Bub.

ExpressoBold on May 22, 2013 at 5:08 PM

When Obama has lost Chuck Todd he is done.

mitchellvii on May 22, 2013 at 5:10 PM

Drop that notepad and reach for the sky!, dirtbag.

BobMbx on May 22, 2013 at 5:43 PM

I swear…Even if Obama rounded up 1/2 the country to the gas chambers, 50+% of the country including some of the 1/2 going into the gas chambers would still approve of Obama’s job performance.

Varchild on May 22, 2013 at 3:46 PM

Right up to the time the ol’ EBT card achieved a zero balance, with no means of the government to fill it up.

“Waddya mean we cooked the dudes who we gots da money from?”

BobMbx on May 22, 2013 at 5:46 PM

For over 30 years…. I thought that I escaped my Communist country.

MNH on May 22, 2013 at 6:33 PM

Not buying it.

Judge apologizes for lack of transparency in James Rosen leak probe

The chief judge of the District’s federal court issued an unusual order Wednesday, apologizing to the public and the media for not making certain court documents widely available online.

The gesture of transparency by U.S. District Judge Royce C. Lamberth comes at a time when the Obama administration is under scrutiny for an unprecedented number of leak investigations, including one showing that the Justice Department had secretly probed the news-gathering activities of Fox News reporter James Rosen.

The investigation of Rosen was first reported Monday, after The Washington Post obtained court documents containing details of the case.

A federal judge had ordered the documents unsealed in November 2011, but they were kept sealed for 18 months and not posted on the court’s online docket until last week, after The Post inquired about them.

Lamberth blamed a series of administrative errors and said a review of the “performance of the personnel involved is underway.” He also said he was creating a new category on the court’s Web site where all search and arrest warrants will be made public unless they fall under a separate sealing order.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/judge-apologizes-for-lack-of-transparency-in-leak-case/2013/05/22/ad769370-c308-11e2-8c3b-0b5e9247e8ca_story.html

wyntre9 on May 22, 2013 at 6:37 PM

wyntre9 on May 22, 2013 at 6:37 PM

More information the public should have had before the vote.

That election was a fraud.

Obama is not President.

petunia on May 22, 2013 at 6:44 PM

BobMbx on May 22, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Heh

cornbred on May 22, 2013 at 8:55 PM

The media is fine with Obama trashing the Ammendments to the US Constitution because it is old and…..hey wait…..you can’t do that….

dddave on May 23, 2013 at 11:35 AM