Politico: Say, that tax vote in House was big win for … Obama?

posted at 8:48 am on December 17, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Their headline is accurate enough — “Barack Obama makes the sale.”  Obama did put his prestige on the line to twist arms in his own party, and had his efforts failed, the President’s influence would have been seriously diminished.  Neither side would have bothered to negotiate with the White House, at least not seriously, if Obama couldn’t deliver the vote.

But whose policy was Obama selling?

Democrats are about to surrender the House. Republicans are pinching themselves for getting a tasty tax deal with an estate-tax cherry on top. And liberals say President Barack Obama is the biggest sell-out since Bob Dylan went electric.

Yet for all that drama, President Barack Obama closed the most impressive sales job of his presidency a few minutes before the clock struck midnight on Thursday –winning House approval of a broadly popular tax-cut and unemployment extension opposed by the extremes of both parties.

If the past two years has been spent ramming though Obama’s ambitious and often unpopular policy agenda, whatever the cost, the past two weeks has been an exercise in salesmanship and compromise – some would say capitulation — unlike anything he’s pulled off as president.

“He’s done a damn good job selling, as good as anything he’s ever sold,” said Rep. Gary Ackerman (D-N.Y.), with a chuckle, a few hours before the measure headed to Obama’s desk after passing by a 277-to-148 margin.

Well, it’s the product, not the sales pitch, that actually matters.  And what mattered to Americans in the midterm elections was a Congress that quit taking more and more money out of their pockets instead of curtailing spending.  The omnibus spending bill died for the same reason, which was that accountability returned with a vengeance in November, and those who are left on Capitol Hill know that the safety of incumbency has evaporated, hopefully for good.

The Democrats voted for Obama’s deal, but Obama’s deal consisted of endorsing the tax rates proposed by George W. Bush in toto. Not just the income tax rates, either, but also the capital-gains tax rates that Obama insisted on raising during the 2008 campaign to either 20% or 28%.  In the end, those tax rates got more votes last night in a Democratic-controlled House (277) than they did in the GOP-controlled House in 2001 (230), and more Democrats voted to extend them than Republicans, 139-138.

If that’s a victory for Obama, may the next two years be filled with such victories.

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I just woke up. What’d I miss?

Akzed on December 17, 2010 at 8:51 AM

So, does this mean that he can start his vacation to Hawaii on Sat.?

scorpio9 on December 17, 2010 at 8:52 AM

For one shining moment…I can honestly say that Obama doesn’t suck.

OK…now we can continue our regular programming.

search4truth on December 17, 2010 at 8:53 AM

If that’s a victory for Obama, may the next two years be filled with such victories.

Exactly! I don’t think that PBHO has it in him, but if he really should change course and pull a Clinton (no I don’t mean do an intern) then that would be just great.

MJBrutus on December 17, 2010 at 8:53 AM

But whose policy was Obama selling?

he’ll claim them, along with the msm, as the obama tax cuts during the 12 campaign, no?

cmsinaz on December 17, 2010 at 8:54 AM

If that’s a victory for Obama, may the next two years be filled with such victories.

game. set. match—>Morrissey.

ted c on December 17, 2010 at 8:55 AM

cmsinaz on December 17, 2010 at 8:54 AM

Let him. It’s called politics and an R in the WH would do the same thing. What counts is that we have removed a dire threat to our economic well-being.

MJBrutus on December 17, 2010 at 8:55 AM

OT: I see a ad for Joe Straus being conservative at the bottom of this article. Trust those of us IN Texas; that is false advertising if there ever was such. The guy is completely beholden to the Democrat minority for his power here; that why every Conservative organization- Tea Parties and GOP regular groups- is working to elect someone else Speaker of the House here.

michaelo on December 17, 2010 at 8:56 AM

The only vote Obama cares about is START. It’s something he can run on in 2012 and it will be part of his legacy (along with Obamacare). Right now the GOP is still on track to self-destruct (Rove, Mike Murphy, …).

gh on December 17, 2010 at 8:56 AM

I just woke up. What’d I miss?

Akzed on December 17, 2010 at 8:51 AM

We have literally come full circle. The Democrats just passed the Bush tax cuts, once again, by a larger margin than the main nemesis of this administration, GWB (oh reviled is his name) did back when he was at the helm.

Are you laughing? Me too.

ted c on December 17, 2010 at 8:57 AM

MJBrutus on December 17, 2010 at 8:55 AM

duly noted

cmsinaz on December 17, 2010 at 8:59 AM

Whatever you do, don’t miss this one key point: Everyone, including Obama and the Dems., agreed that tax rate cuts (maintaining them in this instance) improve the economy, and even have the power to stave off a double dip recession. And as a periphery, it was obvious that a tax rate cut for the rich is more popular and less damaging for politicians to support than not. I hope the GOP builds on these two nuggets when they have a majority in the House, and increased majority in the Senate.

Weight of Glory on December 17, 2010 at 8:59 AM

Looks like we can start calling them the Obama Tax Cuts, tax cuts for the rich. Love it!

Engrpat on December 17, 2010 at 9:00 AM

Politico: Say, that tax vote in House was big win for … Obama?

Lipstick… pig.

petefrt on December 17, 2010 at 9:03 AM

So maybe in 2012, the Kochs can run an ad saying, “Thanks for the tax cuts for the Rich, Barack!”

The Kochs certainly have the money to pay for the ads.

Wethal on December 17, 2010 at 9:03 AM

Schadenfreude. Apologies that you have to go slumming to HuffPo, but it’s worth it. Ohhhhh, it feels so good.

hoosiermama on December 17, 2010 at 9:04 AM

The credit goes to the American people.

kingsjester on December 17, 2010 at 9:06 AM

In the end, those tax rates got more votes last night in a Democratic-controlled House (277) than they did in the GOP-controlled House in 2001 (230), and more Democrats voted to extend them than Republicans, 139-138.

I guess the gop took sheriff joe’s advice and got out of the way. cause this is a big effin deal.

SHARPTOOTH on December 17, 2010 at 9:07 AM

It’s Bush’s fault!!!!!!!!!!!

ladyingray on December 17, 2010 at 9:07 AM

Engrpat on December 17, 2010 at 9:00 AM

Heh,…the Obama tax cuts for the rich.

Alden Pyle on December 17, 2010 at 9:07 AM

“If Barack Obama wins reelection in 2012, as is now more likely than not, historians will mark his comeback as beginning on Dec. 6, the day of the Great Tax Cut Deal of 2010.”

“Obama pulled this off at his lowest political ebb. After the shambles of the election and with no bargaining power – the Republicans could have gotten everything they wanted on the Bush tax cuts retroactively in January without fear of an Obama veto – he walks away with what even Paul Ryan admits was $313 billion in superfluous spending.

Including a $6 billion subsidy for ethanol.”

“Even as they were near unanimously voting for this monstrosity, Republicans began righteously protesting $8.3 billion of earmarks in Harry Reid’s omnibus spending bill. They seem not to understand how ridiculous this looks after having agreed to a Stimulus II that even by their own generous reckoning has 38 times as much spending as all these earmarks combined.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/16/AR2010121604846.html

Gee, just a third of a $trillion in superfluous spending. Good job, GOP.

Viator on December 17, 2010 at 9:08 AM

I don’t see how this is a victory for the Republicans. Correct me if I’m wrong, but all the GOP had to do is hold out til the next Congress and then insist on an up-or-down vote on extending the tax rates, without any additional pork jammed into the bill. That would have dared the WH to veto the bill, and left the Dems’ fingerprints all over a huge tax increase. Instead, the Republicans negotiated a deal with the president when they didn’t need to.

So in exchange for maintaining rates, the GOP signed on to what is essentially Porkulus 2, gave the WH a victory, and gave Barry a fat juicy lie to serve up during the ’12 campaign — that he cut taxes for everyone, avoiding another huge financial catastrophe. Nevermind that that statement is completely false because the media will run with it and hammer it to death.

And now that the tax deal has been dealt with, they’ve left Reid & Co with more time to jam through DADT, START and all kinds of other harmful legislation that’s all designed to weaken America.

If I’m missing something, please tell me, because to me, it looks like the GOP got rolled … again. And that doesn’t inpsire a whole lot of confidence for the next Congress …

jonrademacher on December 17, 2010 at 9:08 AM

This administration is such a complete f up. I’m sorry. The passed the Bush tax cuts for the second time (hilarious) but increased spending again.
So………….Bush’s policies were actually good but we are still going to pay people to sit on their butts. Do they think the economy will just improve because Santa is coming?
They are morons.

ORconservative on December 17, 2010 at 9:08 AM

Od course, if the economy now goes deep south …

OldEnglish on December 17, 2010 at 9:08 AM

What’s even more delicious is that this is a two year extension. Meaning it will be an issue for the next presidential election.

GOP: “We stuck firm to our principle of tax cuts for all.”
Dear Liar: “I intend to have tax raises on the wealthy.”
Wealthy: “Um, you want to raise our taxes and are asking us to fund your reelection campaign, so that you can raise our taxes?”

rbj on December 17, 2010 at 9:09 AM

“He’s done a damn good job selling, as good as anything he’s ever sold,” said Rep. Gary Ackerman (D-N.Y.), with a chuckle,

But I thought that was the problem with everything they’d done thus far? They just haven’t “sold” things enough to the American people? I thought the “messaging” was all screwed up?

catmman on December 17, 2010 at 9:10 AM

The only vote Obama cares about is START. It’s something he can run on in 2012 and it will be part of his legacy (along with Obamacare).

gh on December 17, 2010 at 8:56 AM

He wants DREAM too. Can’t ensure a permanent Dim majority and complete the looting of the U.S. Treasury on behalf of Third Worlders without it.

AZCoyote on December 17, 2010 at 9:13 AM

The bitter part, to go with the sweet, is the extension of unemplyment benefits for an additional 13 months. That means a full 3 years of unemplyment payments await the industrious movers and shakers out there. Three years.

That isn’t unemplyment insurance, it’s welfare.

iurockhead on December 17, 2010 at 9:15 AM

Step 1: Repeatedly call it the “tax cuts bill” until even conservatives start using the label. Frame it as Republicans wanting a “cut” for the rich, while the Democrats are proposing a “cut” for middle and lower wage earners.

Step 2: Tout Obama’s skill in selling the “cuts”, and his bipartisan compromise.

Step 3: Next, start calling them “Obama tax cuts”.

forest on December 17, 2010 at 9:16 AM

Are you laughing? Me too.
ted c on December 17, 2010 at 8:57 AM

No really, what happened?

Akzed on December 17, 2010 at 9:18 AM

iurockhead on December 17, 2010 at 9:15 AM

Not so, as H/A has pointed out repeatedly. The limit is 99 weeks for any individual. The program’s time line has been extended another year.

MJBrutus on December 17, 2010 at 9:19 AM

Does anyone outside of DC and political junkies read politico. Anyhoo, the tool is going to campaign against these tax cuts in 2012, so any goodwill he has for this compromise will be done in fall 2012.

TimTebowSavesAmerica on December 17, 2010 at 9:20 AM

You won’t get an additional 13 months of UI. The program in place that gives you 99 weeks has been extended for another 13 months. Your max benefit is still 99 weeks, if indeed your state allows that much to begin with. Too much, to be sure, but NOT 3 years worth.

teacherman on December 17, 2010 at 9:21 AM

Krauthammer said the same thing in the WaPo today.

Trent1289 on December 17, 2010 at 9:21 AM

I predicted this last night in the Tax Vote thread.

SouthernGent on December 17, 2010 at 9:22 AM

Sounds like the gang at Politico is smoking funny stuff again.

pilamaye on December 17, 2010 at 9:22 AM

Of course it was a huge win for him. He further indebted us.

Betrayed once again…To be continued…

True_King on December 17, 2010 at 9:24 AM

Obama Memo to MSM and lefty-commie websites:

In near future, please do a “Search and Replace” on ‘Bush Tax Cuts for the Rich’ and replace with “Obama Tax Cuts for the Poor”, then switch spin to positive.

Change.

Count it.

cntrlfrk on December 17, 2010 at 9:26 AM

The only vote Obama cares about is START. It’s something he can run on in 2012 and it will be part of his legacy (along with Obamacare).

gh on December 17, 2010 at 8:56 AM

Obama’s problem there is that the GOP got a ruling from the senate parliamentarian, and they can amend the preamble to the treaty.

So McCain is ready with a bunch of amendments protecting the US right to missile defense, for example. May also have something allowing the US to substitute new nukes for the old, deteriorating ones. Hillary will not release the negotiating record (which is often released in conjunction with a treaty), so no one knows what was really negotiated beyond whatever language, possibly general or ambiguous, is in the treaty.

If the senate does this, the Russians have said they will look to amend the treaty.

I doubt the red state Dems are going to want to run with oppo ads saying they sold US security to the Russkies. Even the ones not up in 2012.

Wethal on December 17, 2010 at 9:26 AM

I don’t see how this is a victory for the Republicans. Correct me if I’m wrong, but all the GOP had to do is hold out til the next Congress and then insist on an up-or-down vote on extending the tax rates, without any additional pork jammed into the bill. That would have dared the WH to veto the bill, and left the Dems’ fingerprints all over a huge tax increase. Instead, the Republicans negotiated a deal with the president when they didn’t need to.

So in exchange for maintaining rates, the GOP signed on to what is essentially Porkulus 2, gave the WH a victory, and gave Barry a fat juicy lie to serve up during the ’12 campaign — that he cut taxes for everyone, avoiding another huge financial catastrophe. Nevermind that that statement is completely false because the media will run with it and hammer it to death.

And now that the tax deal has been dealt with, they’ve left Reid & Co with more time to jam through DADT, START and all kinds of other harmful legislation that’s all designed to weaken America.

If I’m missing something, please tell me, because to me, it looks like the GOP got rolled … again. And that doesn’t inpsire a whole lot of confidence for the next Congress …

jonrademacher on December 17, 2010 at 9:08 AM

Someone gets it.

Good job.

True_King on December 17, 2010 at 9:29 AM

These left wing rags like “Politico” are incorrigible and exist in some parallel universe.

rplat on December 17, 2010 at 9:29 AM

Schadenfreude. Apologies that you have to go slumming to HuffPo, but it’s worth it. Ohhhhh, it feels so good.

hoosiermama on December 17, 2010 at 9:04 AM

I love the community moderator that comes out and spews the lefty talking points.

Thank you Allah and Ed for letting us talk without interjecting. (unless things get nasty of course. :) )

ConDem on December 17, 2010 at 9:29 AM

I’m shocked,

that Democratz still can’t admit, that the “Tax-cuts for the Rich” narrative was a lie to begin with,

aren’t you?

franksalterego on December 17, 2010 at 9:31 AM

OT: I see a ad for Joe Straus being conservative at the bottom of this article. Trust those of us IN Texas; that is false advertising if there ever was such. The guy is completely beholden to the Democrat minority for his power here; that why every Conservative organization- Tea Parties and GOP regular groups- is working to elect someone else Speaker of the House here.

michaelo on December 17, 2010 at 8:56 AM

Would that Joe Strauss be related to a certain Mrs. Strauss, former Democratic mayor of Dallas back in the 80s?

AH_C on December 17, 2010 at 9:37 AM

I don’t see how this is a victory for the Republicans.

jonrademacher on December 17, 2010 at 9:08 AM

It’s a victory for America. We averted a MAJOR disaster.

Who gives a flip about the GOP. Keep on believing in your fantasies about the weeper (aka Boehner) riding in to save us next year if you want. You’ll find out soon enough that a man who can be reduced to tears by Barb Walters is not one you want to rely on.

MJBrutus on December 17, 2010 at 9:37 AM

Would that Joe Strauss be related to a certain Mrs. Strauss, former Democratic mayor of Dallas back in the 80s?

AH_C on December 17, 2010 at 9:37 AM

No, but it may run in the family ties…Note Annette’s name had 2 “S”s. Joe’s has 1 “S.”

Annette was also the sister-in-law of the then head of the DNC, Bob Strauss.
True story: When she ran for mayor, someone asked me at a party if I voted for her. I said, “Oh, yes.”
They said, “That’s good, because she’d only find out if you didn’t.”

Jenfidel on December 17, 2010 at 9:40 AM

This is rather silly, as is Krauthammer’s line that this “win” marks Obama’s comeback.

Obama’s presidency was bludgeoned in November and finding himself now wrapped about the finger of the R & I coalition’s finger, Obama has taken to bludgeoning his socialist cohort base. In an attempt to save his presidency and work towards a re-election, for the next two years Obama will now say, “How High?” when we say jump.

It is incumbent on us to realize that Obama will be our finger puppet for the remainder of his term only to be cast aside when better options become available in 2012, if we play it that way.

Dusty on December 17, 2010 at 9:41 AM

If I’m missing something, please tell me, because to me, it looks like the GOP got rolled … again. And that doesn’t inpsire a whole lot of confidence for the next Congress …

jonrademacher on December 17, 2010 at 9:08 AM

Not sure what choice they had. Many mention that the GOP could have just waited a couple weeks and done this their way. How would they have stopped the dems from making this law NOW?

This was just another episode in Theatrics from the democrats as usual. They knew raising taxes was bad, but they have 90% of the press acting like the heavy handed Republicans forced this on them.

I don’t think the Republicans won, but as MJBrutus said, a MAJOR disaster was averted.

The Republicans didn’t lose either. If they had a louder voice, they would be shouting from the rooftops that the dems supported the ‘Bush Tax Cuts for the Rich’ and Obama broke a pile of campaign promises here.

The democrats actually did gain some, because of the Estate Theft Tax and their Pork Payoffs.

cntrlfrk on December 17, 2010 at 9:47 AM

A visit to HuffPo is worth it. The loons are threatening mutiny.
However, there are some dangerous waters ahead for the right, Obama is well on his way to being hated by the left but they are blaming the right for this mess and I can see clearly how Obama can turn this into a huge win for himself.
I didn’t believe the poll yesterday showing Obama way up over SPalin, but today I do.

ORconservative on December 17, 2010 at 9:50 AM

whatever the cost, the past two weeks has been an exercise in salesmanship and compromise – some would say capitulation — unlike anything he’s pulled off as president.

“He’s done a damn good job selling, as good as anything he’s ever sold,” said Rep. Gary Ackerman (D-N.Y.),

Yes…
…….there is no better example of Obama’s greatness than having to call in Bill Clinton to save his a$$.

“Yes please….just go”,Obama was told by Clinton as he bolted for the exit.

Baxter Greene on December 17, 2010 at 9:50 AM

No really, what happened?

Akzed on December 17, 2010 at 9:18 AM

read all of AP’s updates from last night and that’ll get you the gist. I’m still trying to sort it out too

ted c on December 17, 2010 at 9:51 AM

He didn’t “sell” anything. It sold itself. But this “winning” and “losing” business has more to do with public communication, and in this respect, the GOP loses every time. They haven’t even come close to understanding how to deal with the leftist MSM. Lambs to lions. They don’t even try.

Anyway, if the Dream Act passes, then yes, Obama is victorious and we’re finished.

rrpjr on December 17, 2010 at 10:01 AM

Only time will tell if this is a good deal. I hope it is, but it seems we’re unwilling to accept the fact that the debt and deficit have grown too large, and “purist”, like myself, feel that every time the debt ceiling is raised, Republicans will be demonized as hypocrites.
If government growth is curtailed and cut back, I’ll gladly apologize to those of you that possess greater economic acumen than myself. Until then, I’ll remain unconvinced this was the proper course to take, economically or politically.

mossberg500 on December 17, 2010 at 10:03 AM

jonrademacher on December 17, 2010 at 9:08 AM

Republicans, facing an OVERWHELMING majority of Democrats, just defeated a $1.2 TRILLION Omnibus Spending Bill, and got the Bush Tax-cuts extended.

Count your blessings.

franksalterego on December 17, 2010 at 10:06 AM

ONE MORE TIME! “It’s all Bush’s fault!”

GarandFan on December 17, 2010 at 10:06 AM

MJBrutus on December 17, 2010 at 9:19 AM

teacherman on December 17, 2010 at 9:21 AM

I stand corrected, didn’t see that.

But two years (rather than 3) of UI is still welfare.

iurockhead on December 17, 2010 at 10:07 AM

I’m at a loss here so maybe someone can help me. As mentioned above if the R’s were smart they would have refused or stalled until time ran out and then in January extended the Bush tax rates. EVERYONE knew that Obama had lost on the tax issue and should have been ready for his simple counter offer which included the unemployment extension. But the R’s are so dense that they jumped on the offer without looking at the future deficit it caused. They could have said that they would support his offer if the unemployment extensions were paid for out of the TARP funds and that the “Green” BS were removed. That’s called a counter counter offer. I’m afraid we in the Tea Party have our work cut out for us in 2012!

inspectorudy on December 17, 2010 at 10:07 AM

Ed, you can’t be serious, “may the next two years be filled with such victories.”

That thinking is exactly what is wrong with the GOP, and why this country is headed into fiscal disaster. Bush gave us tax cuts…and we swallowed every other budget busting, compassionate conservative BS that he fed us. And now we have had this cute little tea party revolt…and everything stays the same.

Sad. They might as well add this to the SAT,

Gollum : The Ring :: GOP : Tax Cuts

While Rome burns our party is snuggling with a tax cut bill, “my precious, my precious.”

BocaJuniors on December 17, 2010 at 10:20 AM

Good Job Bill Clinton – You Still Got It.

Dr Evil on December 17, 2010 at 10:27 AM

If the economy remains stagnant or declines in the next two years, which is likely, in 2012 Obama and the rest of the roaches will blame the tax rate extension for our economic woes.

pugwriter on December 17, 2010 at 10:28 AM

If the economy remains stagnant or declines in the next two years, which is likely, in 2012 Obama and the rest of the roaches will blame the tax rate extension for our economic woes.

pugwriter on December 17, 2010 at 10:28 AM

B-b-but the Republicans will be able to say we avoided a double-dip recessions or depression! Now where have I heard that before? Oh yeah, the Democrats…how’d that work out for them!

mossberg500 on December 17, 2010 at 10:34 AM

The pubs in the 11th should have done anything and everything to stall untill the 112th came on board, then sent a bill to Obama that forced him to sign or veto permanent tax rates (cuts even!) with no benefits extensions of any kind. Back that dude up against the wall and show the American people who he really is.

All we did this time around was provide cover for the roaches.

pugwriter on December 17, 2010 at 10:34 AM

pubs in the 11th111th

fifm

pugwriter on December 17, 2010 at 10:35 AM

“Now that all recent bond auctions have settled, and with no further bond auctions scheduled until the rest of the year, we can look at the final tally of US total debt: the number – $13,879,785,000,000. This represents a $1.568 trillion increase in total US debt held by the public for 2010, and $4.388 trillion since the collapse of Lehman.”

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/us-end-2010-139-trillion-debt-total-debt-incurred-great-financial-crash-44-trillion

Viator on December 17, 2010 at 10:37 AM

mossberg500 on December 17, 2010 at 10:34 AM

Yes. A man who knows a good deal when he sees one, fancy packages be damned. Makes sense that you’re a limited government type.

500 and 464 here.

pugwriter on December 17, 2010 at 10:41 AM

2012 Debate question:
“President Obama, in 2008 you criticized McCain for supporting the “Bush Tax Cuts for the Rich”. But in 2010 you passed the exact same tax cuts. Would you like to apologize to John McCain now?”

barnone on December 17, 2010 at 10:42 AM

mossberg500 on December 17, 2010 at 10:03 AM

I certainly agree with you that the main problem is the size and growth of government. This deal did little to address that and in fact did make it slightly worse, but only slightly in comparison to the problem. In exchange, it did much to stave off a disaster which would have set us back much farther.

As you say, the test will come when we see if the R’s are sincere and committed as they’ve said they are to fixing the real problem. Killing the other bill to raise the debt ceiling and also spend another $1.2T was a good start, but just a start.

MJBrutus on December 17, 2010 at 10:43 AM

So far Barry has a great record and I’m satisfied with his presidency… At least the parts where he continues Bush’s policies… Gitmo, Iraq, Afghanistan, TAX RATES…
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Going for a laugh here and I almost puked on that first sentence… I won’t do it again. I’m sorry if anyone chucks while reading this./lame humor attempt

RalphyBoy on December 17, 2010 at 11:15 AM

“But whose policy was Obama selling?”

he’ll claim them, along with the msm, as the obama tax cuts during the 12 campaign, no?

cmsinaz on December 17, 2010 at 8:54 AM

Of course, that’s why the minor tweaks, so he can call them the “Obama Tax Cuts”. The biggest problem democratics had with the tax freeze is what it was called.

slickwillie2001 on December 17, 2010 at 11:17 AM

Are you laughing? Me too.

ted c on December 17, 2010 at 8:57 AM

ted c: I am not laughing – I am pi$$ed. It seems the Republicans just got rolled by Obama and they’re laughing at us, much deservedly as usual, because the Repubs are dimwits.

silvernana on December 17, 2010 at 11:24 AM

Yes…
…….there is no better example of Obama’s greatness than having to call in Bill Clinton to save his a$$.

“Yes please….just go”,Obama was told by Clinton as he bolted for the exit.

Baxter Greene on December 17, 2010 at 9:50 AM

Relative to this, did you see the Ramirez cartoon today of Clinton at the press room podium holding the hand of the child-size Obama? Funny stuff.

silvernana on December 17, 2010 at 11:34 AM

Relative to this, did you see the Ramirez cartoon today of Clinton at the press room podium holding the hand of the child-size Obama? Funny stuff.

silvernana on December 17, 2010 at 11:34 AM

Missed that, but here’s another good one: Bill and Bo

slickwillie2001 on December 17, 2010 at 11:39 AM

The GOP is a tax and spend party too, unfortunately.

FloatingRock on December 17, 2010 at 11:44 AM

Obama: “Itching for a fight.”

Right.

Majority in the Senate. Check.
Majority in the House. Check.
Capitulation on Tax Rate. Check Mate.

Somebody get that guy something for that itch. . .

BigAlSouth on December 17, 2010 at 12:21 PM

The GOP is a tax and spend party too, unfortunately.

FloatingRock on December 17, 2010 at 11:44 AM

Not really.
They need to clean up their act, but I hope the Tea Party will be in their face to make sure.

You’ll never get the Democrats to stop taxing and spending.
Never.

Jenfidel on December 17, 2010 at 12:37 PM

Relative to this, did you see the Ramirez cartoon today of Clinton at the press room podium holding the hand of the child-size Obama? Funny stuff.

silvernana on December 17, 2010 at 11:34 AM

Missed that, but here’s another good one: Bill and Bo

slickwillie2001 on December 17, 2010 at 11:39 AM

The one I referred to was in our newspaper today but the source is Investor’s Business Daily. Hope it shows up on here today somewhere so everyone can enjoy it!

silvernana on December 17, 2010 at 12:49 PM

Wait a minute here…
You mean Barack Obama?
Or some other ‘Bam?

Haiku Guy on December 17, 2010 at 1:43 PM

Annette was also the sister-in-law of the then head of the DNC, Bob Strauss.
True story: When she ran for mayor, someone asked me at a party if I voted for her. I said, “Oh, yes.”
They said, “That’s good, because she’d only find out if you didn’t.”

Jenfidel on December 17, 2010 at 9:40 AM

Thanks. I didn’t vote for her cause I lived in Duncanville, then Bedford. While she was somewhat centrist, as I recall it, it was John Pryce that really chapped me with his agitating race/class warfare.

Ironicaly, JP was a member in good standing at a Baptist church down in Oakcliff, just off I-30, IIRC, and I even visited it once with a co-worker who was a member. I came away less than impressed. In retrospect, ever since the Rev Wright expose, I see both pastors were BLT’ers, even tho the one was Baptist and the other UCC.

AH_C on December 17, 2010 at 5:09 PM

Politico is a joke-o

mmcnamer1 on December 17, 2010 at 7:03 PM