Bob Corker hints: If Reid pushes DADT vote, we’ll vote no on START

posted at 5:50 pm on December 17, 2010 by Allahpundit

And almost as quickly as he dropped the hint, he picked it back up and put it in his pocket.

“I felt like momentum was growing for START,” Corker said, adding that since Reid announced he was holding votes on DADT and DREAM, it has had a “chilling effect.”

“I’m watching support for the treaty erode, because of highly partisan political issues being brought up solely because activist groups in the Democratic Party want this done,” he continued.

Corker said he wasn’t issuing a personal threat, and was merely commenting on the reaction of his Senate GOP colleagues. When I pressed Senator Corker on whether Republican Senators would really base their decision on START on whether Reid held a vote on DADT, Corker didn’t answer directly.

“That being thrown into the middle of this debate is causing many Republicans to want to see START pushed back and candidly is causing them to oppose it,” Corker said. “This is hardening them against passage of this treaty at this time.”

That’s what he told Greg Sargent at a little after 4 p.m., after suggesting in his floor speech earlier today that the DADT/DREAM votes tomorrow might have put the future of START at risk. Which would kinda sorta be believable if either of those bills were new business in the Senate requiring intense focus and fresh deliberation. They aren’t. They’re the opposite of that: The Senate already voted on DADT last week when it was attached to the defense bill and they’ve held numerous votes on DREAM over the years, including one back in September when it too was tucked into a larger bill. As “distractions” go, in other words, these ain’t all that distracting. I don’t get Corker’s point about disrupting START deliberations by bringing up “highly partisan political issues” either. That omnibus spending bill was pretty darned partisan and disruptive too, but somehow the GOP managed to overcome their objections to it to pass the tax cuts deal — overwhelmingly — on Wednesday. And in any case, neither DADT nor DREAM will be symbolic, purely partisan votes. There are several Republicans in favor of each, and DADT at least is likely to pass.

Less than 40 minutes after he first spoke to Sargent, Corker called him back to stress that the GOP wouldn’t oppose START permanently because of DADT but that their position on it at the moment was “hardening.” I take that as a sign that there’s some tension inside the caucus right now on whether to push this line. On the one hand, as you’ll see below, McCain and Kyl went out of their way on the Senate floor to stress that START will be considered on the merits. Obviously they’re worried that the GOP will be accused of not taking national security seriously if they’re seen as treating the treaty merely as a bargaining chip vis-a-vis DADT. On the other hand, Graham is telling Politico that the DADT/DREAM vote may have “poisoned the well” against START. Which leaves us … where, exactly? At last check, McConnell claims he’s not sure how the START vote’s going to go (although he’s optimistic about blocking DREAM), but Dan Foster at NRO says it sure sounds like the Dems are about to lose a few key Republicans when they really can’t afford to lose even one — especially now that Ron Wyden may miss the vote. Down to the wire!


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DADT/DREAM/START

all must fail

pseudonominus on December 17, 2010 at 5:57 PM

Away with all three of these worthless bills and this backstabbing lame duck Congress. Pass a continuing resolution until January and go home.

fiatboomer on December 17, 2010 at 5:59 PM

DADT not a big deal.

DREAM/START … very big deal.

darwin on December 17, 2010 at 6:00 PM

So what really happened that made Corker step back a bit from that threat? It’s just stupid to make some deal re DADT and START, as they’re entirely unrelated. And it’s not as if DADT is only supported by libs/Dems either.

JetBoy on December 17, 2010 at 6:00 PM

Obviously they’re worried that the GOP will be accused of not taking national security seriously…

Yeah, I wish they would worry about principles as much as they worry about public perceptions.

JellyToast on December 17, 2010 at 6:00 PM

Republicans actually playing politics like they have an understanding of how it works?

Quick someone pinch me.

If the Republicans really get Obama to drop DREAM/DADT for START I’ll take it as a win.

18-1 on December 17, 2010 at 6:00 PM

I’m make it easy for you, idiots. NO on everything. That’s “on the merits.” How hard is it?

rrpjr on December 17, 2010 at 6:01 PM

darwin on December 17, 2010 at 6:00 PM

Agreed. But DREAM is more important.

ladyingray on December 17, 2010 at 6:06 PM

Sorry, but vote what is right.

Don’t wait for a deal on a vote for something else.

This is what is wrong with Washington.

cntrlfrk on December 17, 2010 at 6:07 PM

Interesting how a NO vote on START because of DADT is going to make people in our nation feel all warm and fuzzy and possibly green due to radiation.

upinak on December 17, 2010 at 6:07 PM

I cannot trust a man(McCain)to protect our country when he has always refused to protect his state from illegal immigration. RINO is too good for McCain and Grahamnesty. They are both backstabbing liars and unfit to lead. Oh wait, McCain was a POW. How did that work out? Maybe that is why he bends over and grabs his ankles at the first sign of duress.

volsense on December 17, 2010 at 6:09 PM

Nothing is more important than defeating DREAM…

… NOTHING!!!

Seven Percent Solution on December 17, 2010 at 6:10 PM

At last check, McConnell claims he’s not sure how the START vote’s going to go (although he’s optimistic about blocking DREAM)

WHAT?!?!?

LASue on December 17, 2010 at 6:11 PM

I’d have preferred the argument be made that lame ducks suck, and that the new members should have a voice after the recent unprecedented elections.

GnuBreed on December 17, 2010 at 6:14 PM

Nothing is more important than defeating DREAM…

… NOTHING!!!

Seven Percent Solution on December 17, 2010 at 6:10 PM

Not hyperbole. Just truth.

ElectricPhase on December 17, 2010 at 6:15 PM

Geez, the Republicans finally get back into a position of power to actually participate in the legislative process, and they start making stupid pronouncements. Just shut up, and do your job.

mossberg500 on December 17, 2010 at 6:16 PM

Obviously they’re worried that the GOP will be accused of not taking national security seriously…

Like, maybe, I don’t know, but just maybe if they actually stood up a little more for core principles and spent time educating the public and exposing the fraud that is the Democrat party they might not have to worry about public misconceptions. If the public is confused about what Republicans and Democrats stand for, somebody needs to get a better message out.
If Republicans are worried that the public might not understand that a bill called “Net Neutrality” or “We Love Clean Air” or whatever is actually just a massive new expansion of powers for the government and has nothing to do with what the bill is called, then start educating people and stop worrying about what the public might think if you vote against it!

Yeah, Democrats create a bill that gives new dictatorial powers to Obama but they call it “The Little Kitty Cat Protection Act” and some Republicans would vote for it out of fear if being called a cat hater.

JellyToast on December 17, 2010 at 6:17 PM

darwin on December 17, 2010 at 6:00 PM
rrpjr on December 17, 2010 at 6:01 PM
cntrlfrk on December 17, 2010 at 6:07 PM
mossberg500 on December 17, 2010 at 6:16 PM

I like what I’m reading in this thread :-) Cheers all!

MJBrutus on December 17, 2010 at 6:22 PM

It’s about time all three bills are packed up Reid’s wazzzo. We don’t want Reid or Pelosi passing any more legislation.

GarandFan on December 17, 2010 at 6:25 PM

Nothing is more important than defeating DREAM…

… NOTHING!!!

Seven Percent Solution on December 17, 2010 at 6:10 PM

Not hyperbole. Just truth.

ElectricPhase on December 17, 2010 at 6:15 PM

Yep, START and DADT are typical progressive moves to weaken America, but DREAM is just evil.

slickwillie2001 on December 17, 2010 at 6:27 PM

You are very right, slickwillie2001. DREAM can be the catylst the progressives need to make sure elections like 2010 never happen. START and DADT are progressive attempts to weaken us one step at a time, Dream is the marathon. Reid gets this and 2012 could be 2010 in reverse.

volsense on December 17, 2010 at 6:36 PM

Yep, START and DADT are typical progressive moves to weaken America, but DREAM is just evil.

slickwillie2001 on December 17, 2010 at 6:27 PM

did you or have you ever read START III?

upinak on December 17, 2010 at 6:48 PM

DADT/DREAM/START

all must fail

pseudonominus on December 17, 2010 at 5:57 PM

+Hell Yeah

Daemonocracy on December 17, 2010 at 6:54 PM

DADT/DREAM/START

all must fail

pseudonominus on December 17, 2010 at 5:57 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHxIssSROjk

Rebar on December 17, 2010 at 6:59 PM

JellyToast on December 17, 2010 at 6:17 PM

It’s difficult to get the message out when you keep making stupid statements lik Sen. Corker. I’d list the recent ridiculous remarks the Republicns have made, but they’re too numerous.
The confusion of the bills addressed during this lame duck session of congress is an indication of the need to educate the public regarding conservative principles on policy. Otherwise, the media will end up focusing on this garbage rather than the legislation itself. And the Republicans know this, yet they seem incapable of staying on message.

mossberg500 on December 17, 2010 at 7:00 PM

START needs to fail miserably, and tacking politics onto its vote simple proves that dimwitted fools like Corker should have no place at all in determining our country’s policies.

In fact, Osama Obama should be impeached for championing a treaty that increases the danger to America.

START is treason, pure and simple. So is DREAM. Anyone who votes for either needs to be removed from office immediately and punished.

MrScribbler on December 17, 2010 at 7:00 PM

Pass the 2-month continuing resolution and get the heck outta town.

cthulhu on December 17, 2010 at 7:00 PM

Vote NO on both no matter what, genius.

Gosh, what do we send these people to DC for, to FUTCAMAP?!

Akzed on December 17, 2010 at 7:05 PM

I still want to know WTF was up with the “Military Leadership Diversity Commission” report pushing women into more combat roles.

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2010/12/military-women-combat-120710w/

ninjapirate on December 17, 2010 at 7:52 PM

Miscue.

motionview on December 17, 2010 at 8:37 PM

How about a new line in the sand. They don’t vote on any of these bullsh!t bills until they do something, anything to start creating jobs. And secure the border. I mean are any of these bills (DADT/Dream/Start) really more important than creating jobs and getting the economy moving again? Are gays gonna die if this doesn’t happen, are illegals going to be sent home, does anyone actually think that the Russians are going to do anything they say with or without this bill?

Let’s not let these unnecessary stories be a distraction to the real issues. The DEMS had 2 years to pass 2 of these and a year to pass the Start but didn’t. Why the hell should they be allowed to jam it through in the last 2 weeks. Must be a pretty weak news cycle when were talking about something Corker said.

New Patriot on December 17, 2010 at 10:10 PM

DADT/DREAM/START

all must fail

pseudonominus on December 17, 2010 at 5:57 PM

Agree.

As someone has already stated, DREAM is just plain evil. That is rewarding illegal behaviour and acts.

As someone else has already stated, START is a treasonous act.
Part of the treaty says that we have to suspend our missle defense system while China, Iran, NK, Venezuela are arming up. Just crazy.

Mirimichi on December 17, 2010 at 10:52 PM

just NO on all this crap… especially DREAM act.

START, DADT, DREAM = Naw, Nope, and OH HELL NO

Dems MUST be punished for this treasonous stuff. Common 2012.

maineconservative on December 17, 2010 at 11:08 PM

I’m make it easy for you, idiots. NO on everything. That’s “on the merits.” How hard is it?

rrpjr on December 17, 2010 at 6:01 PM

Yup. If Harry Reid asks for a vote on whether we like puppies or not … vote no. Fuc* him.

Jaibones on December 17, 2010 at 11:59 PM

DADT/DREAM/START

all must fail

pseudonominus on December 17, 2010 at 5:57 PM

DITTO.

Lourdes on December 18, 2010 at 2:20 AM

Collins, Snowe, Murkowski and Brown — who say they’ll support repealing DADT and think they’ll vote for DREAM or so I think) — among the GOP are all looking tonight like ghouls in a parade, that’s for sure.

I don’t know why these people are even Republicans, I really don’t, nor why Republicans have voted for them. They sure seem eager to support nearly anything the Left wants passed.

Lourdes on December 18, 2010 at 2:24 AM

DADT not a big deal.

DREAM/START … very big deal.

darwin on December 17, 2010 at 6:00 PM

They’re ALL a big deal. All of them, each one, should fail.

Lourdes on December 18, 2010 at 2:24 AM

THE REAL PENTAGON POLL: 91% OF SERVICE MEMBERS REJECT HOMOSEXUAL LEADERS – 1 IN 4 WOULD QUIT

Lose qualified, capable talent from the military, then enlist illegal aliens to replace them, to accommodate a weakened nuclear capability among other things.

That’s the interwoven plan (or part of it) behind repealing DADT, passing DREAM and START.

THEY ALL NEED TO FAIL. Hear this, GOP, kick these plans to the curb and then take them up individually if need be after January 05.

Lourdes on December 18, 2010 at 2:34 AM

Democrats are throwing 3 Hail Mary passes at once thinking we can only block 1 or 2 of them.

Block them all. This is their Waterloo. They can’t pass anything for at least 6 years (except through the courts) if we stop them now.

scotash on December 18, 2010 at 5:56 AM

Adjourn and go home. That’s what we’d like for you to do. Stop coming up with new bills and signing into law things we don’t want or can’t afford. We are not pawns in your political game. If you were defeated in the last election, just go home.

Kissmygrits on December 18, 2010 at 9:28 AM

Lourdes on December 18, 2010 at 2:34 AM

Well….well….erm….Well, it’s obvious the Chaplain is just a big Phobe!

hawkdriver on December 18, 2010 at 9:36 AM

WOW what a negotiator deal…..in awwwwww of the Repub heart and skills…

-lets review we agree to hold the line on the anti-nuke front no gain for giving in on the Hollywood driven demoralization gay front. WOW

The board has changed the near retirement generation days of liberal conquest expansion is over and the newer generations that paid/paying the cost of those policies are rising. Time to end the best case holding the line/slow retreat policy and turn to an offensive roll back of the liberal/demoralization of america.

We need new leadership.

C-Low on December 18, 2010 at 10:18 AM

What about it Bob?

ladyingray on December 18, 2010 at 1:57 PM