Marine Corps chief: I don’t want my men losing any limbs if we repeal DADT
posted at 9:34 pm on December 14, 2010 by Allahpundit
In fairness, fully 60 percent of Marines deployed in combat zones think performance would be negatively affected by letting gays serve openly. Amos’s point, I take it, is that under those circumstances any added distraction — doesn’t matter what it is — is capable of getting someone killed. I understand his concern, but he seems to have no theory of how the distraction might work in practice; beyond that, it’s hard to fathom how the most famously tough-minded troops in the world, the tip of the American spear, would be so thrown by serving alongside an occasional gay solider that it might lead to one of them getting his legs blown off. Marines cope daily with the “distraction” of seeing their best friends shot to pieces, and yet … this is going to bother them to the point of absent-minded recklessness?
“Mistakes and inattention or distractions cost Marines lives,” he said on Tuesday, explaining how he came to his decision. “That’s the currency of this fight.
“I don’t want to lose any Marines to the distraction. I don’t want to have any Marines that I’m visiting at Bethesda [National Naval Medical Center, in Maryland] with no legs be the result of any type of distraction.”…
When pressed to explain exactly what a breakdown of “unit cohesion” could look like and why it would endanger Marines in combat, or the larger war effort, Amos said he was unsure but that the significant concern of breakdown was good enough for him.
“I can’t explain what the expectations are. I can’t explain what they think might happen,” Amos said…
But with so many Marines engaged in Afghanistan, he thought about what could happen to small units like those in Sangin, where fighting is the heaviest by many accounts. When a firefight breaks out, he said, lives depend on “intuitive behavior” free from distraction.
“Intuitive behavior” is an issue in combat situations, but U.S. allies manage to do fine with gay troops and, again, Amos seems to have no theory of how troops’ intuition might be affected. Is he suggesting that gay soldiers wouldn’t rush to the aid of a wounded straight comrade, or vice versa? If the objection is that a RINO civvie like me can’t possibly understand, well, plenty of milbloggers have been on record for awhile now in favor of repealing DADT. I assume not a single one of them would take that position if they thought it would seriously risk American lives. And in fact, according to the Pentagon survey, 84 percent of Marines (overall, not just combat troops) who’ve worked with someone gay said it hadn’t affected unit morale.
Just as I’m writing this, ABC is out with a new poll finding that 77 percent of the public supports letting gay troops serve openly. I haven’t gotten here into the question of gays’ right to serve versus the military’s interest in unit readiness (Gates’s big worry is that that question will end up being decided by courts instead of Congress), but here’s an interesting data point from the American Prospect from the last time the military was grappling with questions about integration. It’s an imperfect analogy, obviously, but the Pentagon did survey troops — including “combat crews” — in 1945 about how they’d feel training in racially mixed units. Turns out that was quite a distraction at the time, too.
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Which would you choose?
Dr. Ben Carson
“Gifted Hands” steering the Ship of State.
or
Hillary Clinton
“What difference, at this point, does it make?”
I know my choice.
countrybumpkin on February 12, 2013 at 3:53 AM
He spoke at my son’s school several years back. My son actually got to shake his hand.
We have a large back population here on welfare in our small city and Ben pulled no punches. He ridiculed racism as something both sides do and stressed how blacks need to get over the past and start bettering themselves and taking care of their own futures. He also talked about the greatness of America.
JellyToast on February 12, 2013 at 6:26 AM
Did you know he is a 7th Day Adventist?
That he believes the Earth is less than 6000 years old?
That he denies evolution?
That he has said (then withdrawn) that evolutionists must be immortal?
Sounds a lot like what I believe.
WHO CARES ??? !!!
stenwin77 on February 12, 2013 at 7:40 AM
Marginalization and destruction of a great man begins in 3…2…
tdarrington on February 12, 2013 at 7:40 AM
As long as his religion doesn’t want to blow up Americans, I don’t care what he believes.
stenwin77 on February 12, 2013 at 7:41 AM
Dr. Carson is absolutely a man of integrity. And very smart. But if he has an ounce of horse sense, he’ll retire to the Cayman Islands and swear off running for federal office. America doesn’t deserve him.
gryphon202 on February 12, 2013 at 7:56 AM
Yep.
air_up_there on February 12, 2013 at 8:09 AM
Gloria Allred’s phone lines are lighting up…
tdarrington on February 12, 2013 at 8:19 AM
Lincoln was a political novice.
eski502 on February 12, 2013 at 8:22 AM
As was Eisenhower.
eski502 on February 12, 2013 at 8:22 AM
America doesn’t deserve him.
gryphon202 on February 12, 2013 at 7:56 AM
stenwin77 on February 12, 2013 at 8:30 AM
…which has absolutely nothing to do with whether he will or should wade into the corrupting toxic cesspool of D.C. politics.
gryphon202 on February 12, 2013 at 8:38 AM
Libnutsordie will be on any moment with some goofy “heard from a friend who heard from a friend” any moment.
itsspideyman on February 12, 2013 at 8:48 AM
itsspideyman on February 12, 2013 at 8:48 AM
The perfesser will be all over this. A Christian American Conservative, who happens to be Black, who shamed his beloved “messiah”?
Oh, Lawdy!
kingsjester on February 12, 2013 at 8:53 AM
If you haven’t already, go watch the whole speech. It’s a half hour that is definitely worth your time, especially to watch Obama squirm, not applaud at times, and check his cell phone. Carlson hits him on education, taxes and healthcare in a manner that’s very easy to understand.
It’s amazing to compare Dr. Carlson’s upbringing based on his mother’s rugged personal responsibility ethic with Obama’s own pampered and coddled upbringing which was outsourced to his typical white grandmother and Bill Ayers, a guy in the neighborhood.
monalisa on February 12, 2013 at 8:58 AM
I expect the media to crush this guy any second now. Only black men who pretend to be smart can be president, you see.
crrr6 on February 12, 2013 at 9:07 AM
Who cares about his religion? He’s not running for pope.
countrybumpkin on February 12, 2013 at 9:15 AM
Lemme give you a little clue, Bumpkin:
Dr. Carson’s religion is as relevant to his future political aspirations as McCain’s failed presidential run was to Palin’s.
Cheers.
gryphon202 on February 12, 2013 at 9:21 AM
I wish cons would stop jumping on band wagons looking for the next great thing. Is Rubio passe now? I enjoyed listening to the Dr speak and agree with a lot of what he says but would need to hear more from him before voting for him.
Kissmygrits on February 12, 2013 at 9:25 AM
Anyone who’s been in academic medicine can tell you: A chairman at a major center like Hopkins is *not* a political novice. There are big egos, bureaucracies, and budgets to manage. He’s much more qualified as an administrator than Hillary or O.
xuyee on February 12, 2013 at 9:26 AM
A well educated man speaking common sense.
I am surprised we have that any more in this country.
Enjoy your retirement.
SmallGovtGuy on February 12, 2013 at 9:28 AM
You can’t vote for him if he doesn’t run, and he won’t. Believe me, 2016 will be Sarah Palin all over again. Except this time it will be Dr. Benjamin Carson.
Carson Supporters: Oh look! He’s such an accomplished man! Obama never accomplished that much.
Carson Detractors: Yeah, but he hasn’t spent a day of his life in politics. And he thinks belief in evolution is immoral.
Carson Supporters: So? He’s against everything Obama stands for. Isn’t that enough?
Dr. Carson: I’m not running for federal office.
Carson Supporters: You cheated us! We hate you!
Carson Detractors: Whew. Dodged a bullet there.
gryphon202 on February 12, 2013 at 9:29 AM
Being a general in the US Amy has many tasks which are wholly political in nature.
+100
Difficultas_Est_Imperium on February 12, 2013 at 9:32 AM
You know who else wasn’t a “political novice?”
That’s right! Sarah Palin!
gryphon202 on February 12, 2013 at 9:35 AM
Just purchased both the movie and book of Gifted Hands: The Ben Carson Story really cheaply on Amazon. It’s gonna be great watching his life story with my 12-year-old son. Can’t think of a better role model.
To think I hadn’t even heard of this man until he stepped on big Progressive toes. His last book was titled America the Beautiful: Rediscovering What Made this Nation Great, so that may explain why the Lib media keeps him under wraps, as well as his profound faith he shares very openly.
He made Obama look really minuscule at that prayer breakfast. But not just Obama. He also makes Liberals, Progs and the entire Leftist, victim-enabling media establishment in news, education and entertainment look like teeny tiny dust bunnies gathering underneath your bed.
RepubChica on February 12, 2013 at 9:41 AM
btw, I don’t want Carson to run for anything unless he feels it’s his calling and he and his family are 100% up to it. People like him are too damn good for politics in their current state as it stands. He can, however, use his influence for great things…like shaking up the discussion just as he’s done the past week, sans political labels.
RepubChica on February 12, 2013 at 9:49 AM
Very true.
Carson has executive experience.
Obama had NONE when he was elected pResident. (I don’t count the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, where Bill Ayers ran the show and made Obama chairman-in-name-only.)
Even today, Obama doesn’t really have executive experience. He’s a figurehead, and “VJ44” is the one who is truly acting as the 44th President of the United States.
ITguy on February 12, 2013 at 10:06 AM
Not really. He’d been a Whig party leader and an Illinois state legislator in the 1830′s, and then served a term as a U.S. Congressman in the 1840′s, before running for president.
AZCoyote on February 12, 2013 at 10:07 AM
You forgot that he called non-believers immoral. As to the rest of it…when someone’s beliefs are SO FAR EXTREME as to virtually deny ALL of our biological, geologic, palentologic, genetic scientific underpinnings and evidence…as well as calling those who believe in such science largely immoral…then one might want to check our what else this good man and brilliant nut job believes. This is how we end up with Todd Akins and “Witchy Women”.
(I note that many don’t believe in evolution or believe in some of it but not all of it…or simply are uneducated and don’t have an opinon. This is NOT disqualifying…though one would wish for better. It is the ENTIRETY of Carson’s beliefs that are FAR removed from mainstream Christianity and even most Evangelicals.)
So next time you see Jesus riding on a dinosaur…remember this is what Carson believes in and ask yourself if that’s who you want LEADING the free world and setting the education agenda for your kids. I like the guy. Find him a spot where he can contribute… and keep him off the ballot.
camaraderie on February 12, 2013 at 10:17 AM
If they truly lived by what they claimed to believe, they would be. Survival of the strongest by any and all means possible…
dominigan on February 12, 2013 at 10:20 AM
This attitude is exactly why we end up with our lackluster presidential candidate.
Your telling me an accomplished neurosurgeon can’t be president. He be the smarted person in Washington! We’ve got 4 years to get him ready.
Stout on February 12, 2013 at 10:28 AM
Yes, Captain Amnesty is passe now.
xblade on February 12, 2013 at 10:29 AM
Plus what you seem so quick to blow up about is that Christians acknowledge that ALL OF US are sinners (immoral) when compared against God’s plan. But those of us who have had our eyes opened are now striving to live according to God’s moral plan.
And if you claim to be living to a different code, and claim to be moral instead of immoral, what is your standard of reference for what is moral vs immoral?
dominigan on February 12, 2013 at 10:29 AM
In the post-Obama era, ANYBODY can run for President. The man has entirely demolished any objective standard.
We’re such old maids in this party. I’m beginning to understand better why the Left is cleaning our clocks.
rrpjr on February 12, 2013 at 10:30 AM
He would be great as HHS head under President Palin.
ChuckTX on February 12, 2013 at 10:38 AM
Well, whether or not the good Dr. decides to jump into the political arena, I hope more Republican candidates take a lesson or two from him about how to possibly repackage our message. I thought he communicated some old conservative principles in a new and simple way.
His ideas alone could be invaluable.
lynncgb on February 12, 2013 at 10:39 AM
We can only hope.
BTW, he’ll be speaking Espanol this evening….
ToddPA on February 12, 2013 at 10:40 AM
LoL
lynncgb on February 12, 2013 at 10:41 AM
Why do so many believe the GOP and conservatism is dead, or dying? Who’s on the Democratic bench? A 70+ year old ex-first lady, a goofy old VP, or ……who the heck else do they have that’s young with national exposure?
Obama lost 30 states in ’12, had 8M fewer votes, there are 32 GOP governors, and over half of all state houses are dominated by the GOP; and there is a narrative the GOP is dying?
Dr. Carson words can only help be a GROWING voice within the GOP.
Tater Salad on February 12, 2013 at 10:47 AM
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha *whew* ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Well at least NObama was a total political expert when he was immaculated into office.
BTW, for the first presidents of our nationa, ALL OF THEM WERE POLITICAL NOVICES. There is nothing in the Constitution about having certain political credentials before being able to run for President.
Nutstuyu on February 12, 2013 at 10:52 AM
And did you know that Barack Obama…oh never mind. You’re hopeless.
Nutstuyu on February 12, 2013 at 11:00 AM
Seriously. Get a new act.
Nutstuyu on February 12, 2013 at 11:10 AM
If only you’d been around in 2008…
Nutstuyu on February 12, 2013 at 11:13 AM
For those who don’t think his religion and it’s views would be an issue, I’ll submit one name for you – Mitt Romney. I can’t help but believe that there was some religious bigotry within our party, given how many fewer votes he had than McCain. He should have at least had those votes , plus some of the eroded Obama votes.
Tater Salad on February 12, 2013 at 11:18 AM
If the report in WaPO from this morning is true, Sarah Palin may be too busy with her new job at AL Jazeera.
galtani on February 12, 2013 at 11:22 AM
Please tell me someone is inviting him to the SOTU.
blammm on February 12, 2013 at 11:22 AM
Here is an article by Allen West on Dr. Carson. A sad fact what Allen says seems to be the truth of any person who disagrees with bho, that goes for those of any shade!
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/12/allen-wests-candid-remarks-on-dr-carson-he-broke-the-unwritten-rule-that-black-men-cant-criticize-obama/
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letget on February 12, 2013 at 11:30 AM
I am reading Gifted Hands now. Excellent read so far.
hollygolightly on February 12, 2013 at 11:34 AM
Washington Post falls for hoax report that Sarah Palin will work for al-Jazeera
Look like you fell for it too.
http://www.humanevents.com/2013/02/12/washington-post-falls-for-hoax-report-that-sarah-palin-will-work-for-al-jazeera/
rrpjr on February 12, 2013 at 11:46 AM
Why is it “completely unrealistic” for him to consider a run for the Presidential office? We have a freaking community organizer in there now!
If he does run, and there are no bad “surprises” about himself that he is not telling anyone that are sure to come out, I would enthusiastically vote for him for President. And if he doesn’t make it on the ballot, I just may write him in.
I hope he runs as an Independent though, because I am quite fed up with the Republican establishment. Though if he did somehow make it on the Republican ticket, I would vote for him anyway.
Sterling Holobyte on February 12, 2013 at 12:15 PM
It won’t be president squirmy.
Sterling Holobyte on February 12, 2013 at 12:16 PM
It is on Drudge. If you read my comment, I said if the WaPo report is true. I had not fallen for it, I related the article to see if anyone has more information on what seems to be a very uncharacteristic move for Palin.
galtani on February 12, 2013 at 12:22 PM
Looks like Drudge had pulled that WaPo article.
galtani on February 12, 2013 at 12:27 PM
Not anymore. Apparently he’s as much of a dupe as the Washington Post. I laughed out loud when I first heard the story. Anybody with an awarenes of Sarah Palin — or the Washington Post — would have done the same.
rrpjr on February 12, 2013 at 12:44 PM
Does any one but me suspect that between now and 2016 the Dems will put forward one or more women claiming Dr. Carson either had an affair with her or raped her or groped her or sexually harrassed her in some way or another? That seems to be the usual pattern. A conservative black man is reaching for a top position, and women come out of the woodwork claiming he sexually harrassed them (Clarence Thomas) or had an affair with them (Herman Cain.)
After the Congressional Prayer Breakfast, the Clinton machine has been put on a war footing to destroy Ben Carson. It’s Hillary’s turn dammit!, and nothing or no one will be allowed to derail her campaign.
catsandbooks on February 12, 2013 at 1:01 PM
He needs to run if we have any chance of beating Hillary
How much of the Black vote you guys think he’ll get? 80%?
LurkerDood on February 12, 2013 at 1:02 PM
So are you trying to tell us that the Director of Pediatric Neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins Hospital is anti-science? That’s too funny!
Gelsomina on February 12, 2013 at 1:03 PM
It’s not true. The Washington Post fell for a satirical article in the Daily Currant. They believe every nonsense, as long as it looks bad for Palin.
Gelsomina on February 12, 2013 at 1:08 PM
Rush is talking about Sarah and the story now. IT IS NOT true and who in their right mind would believe Sarah would do such a thing?
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letget on February 12, 2013 at 1:13 PM
letget on February 12, 2013 at 1:13 PM
That’s the problem. Liberals, on both sides of the aisle, are not in their right minds.
kingsjester on February 12, 2013 at 1:15 PM
AND… that he may have been born in Canada to white Finnish illegal immigrants AND take melanin injections to appear black?
Seriously, if I have to choose between someone who believes in Divine creation and someone who believes that a decrease in an increase is a cut, I’m probably going to go with the guy whose otherworldly beliefs apply mostly to another world.
PersonFromPorlock on February 12, 2013 at 1:23 PM
At least you have the sense to see which individual has differing beliefs and which is OUT OF THEIR ****ING MINDS, unlike comraderie.
Push comes to shove, “Magic sky fairies” beats liberal economic fantasies.
MelonCollie on February 12, 2013 at 1:28 PM
Couldn’t care less. Is he trying to destroy our heathcare system (and just about every other part of our society and tradition) in the name of his ideology’s total power and control over our lives?
rrpjr on February 12, 2013 at 1:35 PM
Haha! Excellent point!
lucyvanpelt on February 12, 2013 at 1:39 PM
Just let him run and if fails he fails. I just wish people would stop trying to cut down people before they had a chance to run (if they want to). I think he should run. He would add something to the debate. I hope Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, Paul Ryan, Sarah Palin, and even that RINO jerk Christie run as well. Let the best man or woman win. People who keep saying we need to clear the field are idiotic. Hillary and Obama slugged it out in 2008 and did not hurt Obama any.
BTW the problem with the last election was not too many choices, as some hardcore Romney folks think (because it made it hard on him), but a lack of good picks. Romney only won because everyone else blew up. Newt had a poor organization behind him, Cain had women problems, and Perry could not debate to save his life.
William Eaton on February 12, 2013 at 2:34 PM
I suspect this guy would disagree with you about disqualifying him from the ballot…
cs89 on February 12, 2013 at 2:39 PM
It has EVERYTHING to do with whether or not he should get into politics. EVERYTHING!
stenwin77 on February 12, 2013 at 2:47 PM
Karl Rove isn’t going to allow him to run…you guys know that.
Don’t go gettin’ yourselves all excited again.
How about a reality TV show for guy?
verbaluce on February 12, 2013 at 3:22 PM
Principle or experience?
I’d take principle every time (Obama proved experience isn’t necessary) you can always surround yourself with experienced knowledgeable people who can feed you their wisdom, from which you then make principled decision.
Result: America survives her left list, rights herself, and moves on to become the greatest ship history has ever seen.
But then, America needs an exorcist rather than another failed leader.
Don L on February 12, 2013 at 4:04 PM
“The free world” involves people other than Christians, and people whose beliefs are far stranger than “Jesus riding a dinosaur.”
Also why do we ask if a presidential candidate is a good choice to set the education agenda? We should be asking WHY the president sets the education agenda. Education is local and state. It has no business at the federal level.
tdarrington on February 12, 2013 at 5:12 PM
I am guilty of not knowing who this man was until last week. Now I am one of his greatest fans. Where has he been hiding all this time? He is articulate, charismatic, well educated, a scientist… Boy, we need to draft him for president. Forget Marco Rubio, this is the man!!!
p_incorrect on February 13, 2013 at 12:14 PM
I’d settle for his example bringing more like him out into the light.
Common sense has an invigorating effect.
roy_batty on February 13, 2013 at 2:46 PM
Dr. Carson has more nads than all the Congress because he needn’t worry about staying in office.
mixplix on February 14, 2013 at 10:52 AM
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