Video: Stage set for the Obama boom?
posted at 1:35 pm on December 13, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
Neil Cavuto waxed nostalgic this morning over prospects of an economic boom, thanks to Barack Obama’s actions last week in reaching a compromise and then reaching out to the model of triangulation, Bill Clinton. Cavuto says that the actions of Obama may well presage a repeat, and that Obama will reap the benefits of a resurgent economy if he continues to find common ground with Republicans in Congress. But just how realistic is this comparison?
This might be true — if we had similar economic circumstances, similar Presidents, and similar Congressional leadership, none of which we have. First, the Clinton “boom” started before Clinton got elected. The recession of 1990-91 was over before the election, with GDP growth rates in each of the last three quarters of 1992 over 4%. The Clinton economic boom was also bubble-based, first in the dot-com industry and later in housing markets. The Republican Congress more or less prevented Clinton from getting in the way of economic growth and forcing an end to deficit spending, at least as defined by government.
In this case, we’re in an economic trough caused by the collapse of the latter bubble. Obama’s economic plan has already failed, but he shows no sign of changing course. Indeed, Obama has already declared that he will fight the deal he just made when it expires in two years. Meanwhile, Democrats still control the Senate and will help Obama fight any efforts to reduce government (as Clinton did with welfare reform) and regulation.
The only achievement in this deal is the opportunity to stop even more serious economic damage, not to touch off an economic boom. Economic booms do not get created from a temporary deal to keep tax rates at current levels. A boom won’t materialize until the federal government reduces its regulatory burden on American business and ends the uncertainties created by ObamaCare and unrestrained federal agency rulemaking. That won’t happen under Obama, which means we will have at best a status-quo stagnation for the next two years — which will certainly be attributed to Obama, as it should be.









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We will indeed see a boom – if the socialized medicine bill is repealed or defunded, tax rates are at least held where they are, and massive government spending is drastically cut. But, even if all of these things come to pass, it will be 2013 before the boom is felt in employment numbers, and household income.
Vashta.Nerada on December 13, 2010 at 1:38 PM
When unemployment falls from 10% to 9%, the MSM will proclaim the economy to be the best economy ever and all thanks to Dear Leader’s policies.
Same MSM that said unemployment at 5% during Bush was worse than the Great Depression.
angryed on December 13, 2010 at 1:40 PM
We’re more likely to see some booms from North Korea, Venezuela and Iran.
Mr. Bingley on December 13, 2010 at 1:41 PM
That sounds about right.
skree on December 13, 2010 at 1:42 PM
The only boon, or in Cavuto’s words, boom, will be when Barry’s head finally explodes from the barrage of spending cuts and limited government legislation the Repubs hit him with.
anXdem on December 13, 2010 at 1:42 PM
Not an economist, but I think we will see a “boom…”
as the economy makes modest improvement, inflation kicks off, and people make more (and spend more!) the $ may look better even if the standard of living does not improve.
cs89 on December 13, 2010 at 1:43 PM
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But we DO have similar Presidents.
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Clinton’s back in office … I saw Big 0 hand things off to him and then head off to M’chelles party …
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Arbalest on December 13, 2010 at 1:43 PM
I wouldn’t say there will be an Obama boom, but there will be a recovery, that has nothing to do with Obama, in fact it was postponed by Obama and the democrats.
cntrlfrk on December 13, 2010 at 1:44 PM
That’s probably the best Barry can hope for in 2012. Unemployment around 9%. And he and the media will try desperately to spin that as the economy being on the right path. Whether they can sucker enough independent voters into accepting that level of mediocrity remains to be seen.
Doughboy on December 13, 2010 at 1:44 PM
The media will go all out and shill for Obama, but you can’t spin 8+ unemployment. If our nominee is at all competent, you will have nonestop ads saying that zero promised that the unemployment rate would never go above 8%. If it is still above 8% fall 2012, the tool won’t get reelected because the economy will still stink in the tossup states.
TimTebowSavesAmerica on December 13, 2010 at 1:46 PM
Spot on angryed
cmsinaz on December 13, 2010 at 1:46 PM
Keeping things the way they are won’t cause a boom. There are still plenty of overvalued assets out there, and credit is very tight (and will continue to be so, thanks to all that fresh government debt.) The high unemployment numbers will continue for AT LEAST the next two years (if not 4 or 5). Hiring won’t start again in earnest until credit loosens up, and that won’t happen until the hit from the undervalued assets is fully absorbed.
A few years and a tax cut or two (a real tax cut, not just extending the current tax rate) will be needed. But it’s all moot because the problems have deep, global roots. The coming war will blow all of this away.
Farmer_Joe on December 13, 2010 at 1:47 PM
$14 trillion in debt and growing says you lie!
Oil Can on December 13, 2010 at 1:48 PM
We will not see any recovery for at least five years. The private sector is poisoned by the socialists. If the economy doesn’t crash completely, it will be a miracle.
Major companies have absolutely no motivation to invest here. Nor will they, as long as they are worried our government will strip them of the fruits of their labors.
Once gone, will they come back? Why the hell would they?
If one knows one is safe where they are, why take the risk?
dogsoldier on December 13, 2010 at 1:48 PM
Two more things Clinton benefited from,
Cell Phones
Y2K
Cell phones increased productivity
A lot was spent on Y2K, from computers, servers to technicians fixing the non-problem.
WoosterOh on December 13, 2010 at 1:49 PM
There will be no Recovery, just fluctuations of the market and Funemployment numbers.
portlandon on December 13, 2010 at 1:50 PM
Someone needs to address the issue that is left out of all this … The country is very divided and the two biggest factions almost totally hate each other and won’t give in to the other… The powder keg is getting full and the Hatefilled Left won’t hesitate to light the match. Remember they have no hope…
CCRWM on December 13, 2010 at 1:50 PM
Two reasons I can think of: the local peasant populaces they use for cheap labor rising up to demand better pay (which would collapse their business model), and the local government becoming as leftist or more than what they left behind.
Dark-Star on December 13, 2010 at 1:51 PM
President Obama, Ben Bernanke, et al. all believe they can re-ignite the bubbles that had most recently popped. They don’t want people to save their money; they want people to go further in to debt by credit and consume. All of their actions is not to recover the economy, but to bring back the bubbles. The gov’t stimulus and unemployment benefits mask the real economic conditions, which are depression level. We as a nation need to confront the real economy so we can achieve a real recovery.
Weebork on December 13, 2010 at 1:52 PM
Obama has made too many systemic alterations to our economic machine and regulatory apparatus, which have cascaded throughout the economy and even into our psyche as it relates to our conceptions of freedom, for anything like a “boon” to erupt. Economies are more emotional than we sometimes realizes. Moreover, there is every sign he is unrelenting in this effort to subvert the underpinnings of economic freedom. Overall, this is a deeply covert president. By now, the people feel this, and an equally deep uneasiness is settling in. It is hard to reverse such a “feeling”. Preserving the status quo of tax rates cannot change this.
rrpjr on December 13, 2010 at 1:55 PM
Obama: “What you’re now seeing is … profit and earning ratios are starting to get to the point where…” the stage is set for the economy to boom.
petefrt on December 13, 2010 at 1:55 PM
Neil Cavuto said that? Are you sure it wasn’t Neil Diamond?
“If we get this stimulus passed, I guarantee unemployment will not rise above 8%.”
Hogwash.
“I promise if elected, to kill the extension of any Bush tax cuts.”
Shur dude.
Neil is suffering from memory lapse.
fogw on December 13, 2010 at 2:00 PM
Well nothing is booming here in California.It’s only gonna get worse with Governor moonbeam.Don’t think it’s going to happen anytime too soon. Especially before the 2012 election. Just my two cents worth, which is about all I have now!
sandee on December 13, 2010 at 2:00 PM
Exactly, Ed. There won’t be any boom until spending is curbed and regulation is scaled way back.
A two-year status quo of the current tax rates simply holds the line in draining taxpayers’ pocketbooks. Punishing the successful with the imposition of a new death tax will have a negative effect.
onlineanalyst on December 13, 2010 at 2:00 PM
Keeping the economic status quo is now a boom.
Keeping the Bush tax rates which caused the economic collapse of 2008 is now going to cause an economic boom because we have a democrat president.
So if we want the economy to grow like it did with Clinton, we need to adopt the Clinton tax rates, and let the Bush tax rates expire.
Yea, well… I could go clear the two feet of snow out of my driveway, but it’s still snowing. So I don’t really see the point, and think I’ll just go take a nap.
Skandia Recluse on December 13, 2010 at 2:01 PM
FIFY
A man’s legacy is a man’s legacy, after all.
turfmann on December 13, 2010 at 2:02 PM
Clear your throat, Neil.
princetrumpet on December 13, 2010 at 2:05 PM
There won’t be a recovery until the too big to fail banks go under and real estate finds it’s true bottom. That’s why we haven’t recovered to date. That and ridiculous fiscal policy.
voiceofreason on December 13, 2010 at 2:06 PM
BUST! BUST! BUST!
TheAlamos on December 13, 2010 at 2:06 PM
This is sadly true. When a state whose GDP is larger than most countries is hobbled by Marxism, there is not a lot of hope that we as a whole have a lot to look forward to in the immediate future.
1/20/13 cannot come soon enough.
turfmann on December 13, 2010 at 2:09 PM
I hate it when I have negative thoughts, but I do hear.
Pelosi, all thru the first 2 years, did exactly what Obama wanted. Right down to forcing health care down the throats of unapproving Americans, in a majority stance.
So why can’t I shake the feeling, that her obstinance, and refusal last week to bring the tax bill to the floor of the house, wasn’t exactly the same thing? Doing exactly what Obama wants her to do?
He’s made no secret he wants higher taxes. Especially from the rich. So what’s a few million sacrificial, middle class lambs, when it comes to achieving his goals?
capejasmine on December 13, 2010 at 2:10 PM
Cavuto, like Kramer, Kudlow and the rest of the stock-market shills, have seen that a “boom” — which is, to them, a rise in stock prices, nothing more — can be generated these days by nothing more than some incoherent cheerleading and fake “growth” numbers from “experts.” And they, of course, are the “experts.”
They’d be praising Bernie Madoff to the skies if he was out of the slam.
The fact that the market is where it is now and not <6000 is proof that unemployment, huge debt and failing real businesses (not fake businesses based on smoke and mirrors that buy each other out in billion-dollar "deals"), all of which affect the economy you and I deal with, mean nothing to the Whores of Wall Street.
MrScribbler on December 13, 2010 at 2:13 PM
Sorry, Neil, you are misguided.
Nothing this Admin and Congress has done has done anything to improve conditions or incentives for small to medium sized businesses to being employing and expanding.
Everyone I know is sitting on the sidelines, including our family. There is not one single thing that has come out of this Admin that gives me any incentive to risk capital, time and talent with maximum exposure, and minimal reward.
And no, I don’t “owe” anyone a job.
I also know firsthand of too many people who are leaving to set up outside of the US because the uncertainty and hostility towards small – med business here.
YTZGal on December 13, 2010 at 2:16 PM
In the 1990s, you could see personal computers getting cheaper, ISP service getting cheaper, and the advent of the Web. All of which led both to the Dotcom Bubble (which popped), and the eCommerce Revolution (which is still happening).
I don’t see anything on the technology front that is comparable in commercial impact right now. While being able to get the internet on a cell phone is great, it’s the same old internet. The only comparable thing would be the move into space, but 0bama is doing his best to kill that.
Sekhmet on December 13, 2010 at 2:16 PM
Cavuto should be smarter than this.
Government never drives the economy into the black. Only the absence of government can make way for a robust economy.
beatcanvas on December 13, 2010 at 2:18 PM
Obama won’t be reelected. “The Smartest Man in the World” has no clue about economics, and will continue to pursue policies that will drag the economy down.
GarandFan on December 13, 2010 at 2:18 PM
Perhaps, but look at the entertainment business that fled california. The majority didn’t go to another state, they relocated to Vancouver and Toronto. (which says a lot considering Canada’s tax system)
Check this out though: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703766704576009501161973480.html?mod=djemITP_h
He doesn’t have a political clue either. If he did, he wouldn’t Foul up with the regularity he does.
dogsoldier on December 13, 2010 at 2:25 PM
I can’t watch TV anymore. They’re all idiots–egos and big mouths. O’Reilly, Napolitano, Cavuto. More troubling, I’ve noticed this overweening need they have to prove their “objectivity” with truly stupid contentions and absurd benefits of the doubt. A waste of time.
rrpjr on December 13, 2010 at 2:28 PM
GREEN JOBS!!!
/sarc
angryed on December 13, 2010 at 2:31 PM
The recession under Bush the Elder was caused by the end of the Cold War and the resulting layoffs. Also it was the tail end of the S&L bailout. Clinton ran a campaign based on the bald faced lie that it was the economic policies of Reagan/Bush. Then he reaped the peace dividend and the aforementioned bubbles.
pedestrian on December 13, 2010 at 2:33 PM
Mobile devices of all shapes and sizes are taking off. That will enable whole new modes of commerce. Don’t underestimate having the power of the internet wherever you go.
pedestrian on December 13, 2010 at 2:35 PM
Wishful thinking status quo
tarpon on December 13, 2010 at 2:35 PM
Yeah but that’s not nearly as monumental as the internet itself taking off. Think of the difference technologically between the late 80s/early 90s vs 2000. A world of difference. Now think of what 2011 will be compared to 2000. Not that much different really. Our computers and phones have become smaller and faster, but we can’t do much more online than what we could do in 2000. We can do it faster, but that’s about it.
angryed on December 13, 2010 at 2:41 PM
There was a “boom” here where I work this morning. Transformer blew up on a pole outside.
BOOM!!
That’d be it though.
44Magnum on December 13, 2010 at 2:43 PM
Gas prices at the pump are pushing $3/gallon. A couple of months of that will suck the BOO outta BOOM.
bloviator on December 13, 2010 at 2:44 PM
The other thing is in the 90s, the govt pretty much let .coms to do what they did. There was very little regulation or stifling of the start ups. Today, it’s regulation city. And with net neutrality on the way it will only get worse. Had Obama been in power during the early 90s, I don’t think ebay, amazon, etc would have been 1/2 as successful as they were.
angryed on December 13, 2010 at 2:44 PM
There might be an Obama snap,crackle,pop,or fizzle but there won’t be a boom.
MCGIRV on December 13, 2010 at 2:51 PM
Watch for Republicans to buy into the Green Economy to create a new bubble.The economic resurgence during Bubba’s administration was nothing more than one bubble after another.The real estate bubble,the tech bubble-just make things look good till the next election;to he** with the long term effects.Does anyone remember the economists and financial advisors worrying about the lack of corrections in the market for 8 years?
The only area that has the growth potential to overcome the current crisis fast enough is the Green BS.Our traditional industries won’t be able to compete with foriegn competitors for many years,if they were interested in competing.
Yes,there may be a small boom but just like the boom years of the Clinton years,there will be a mighty high price to pay in years to come.Just like we are now paying for the mistakes of the recent past.
DDT on December 13, 2010 at 2:53 PM
Come to think of it,aren’t there several Greenie provisions in the current tax bill?Subsidies for ethanol,funding for windmills etc.?
DDT on December 13, 2010 at 2:56 PM
Considering that since the President used Congressional Democrats animals of burden and then threw them away like an old smelly wash rag I suppose an economic up turn on a Republican Congress is possible.
Speakup on December 13, 2010 at 3:23 PM
Yup! Watch airlines, and other means of transportation to topple like dominoes. Adding more to the unemployment numbers. Food prices will skyrocket, because of the high cost to transport them from farm to market. It’s going to get ugly again. :(
capejasmine on December 13, 2010 at 3:29 PM
Oil (and gas) prices are rising; interest rates are headed up (check recent U.S. bond sales); prices for food and clothing are rising (the price of cotton is skyrocketing).
We’ll soon be experiencing an economy like we had under a past Democratic president, all right. But it’ll be the Carter economy of the 1970′s, not the Clinton economy of the 1990′s.
AZCoyote on December 13, 2010 at 3:36 PM
There is no confidence that the executive branch of government (Comrade Barry & regime) is anything but along for the ride at this juncture. They reek of the stench of death and failure. Man up, Republicans….this may be your finest hour.
joe btfsplk on December 13, 2010 at 3:45 PM
Obama and Clinton sharing the podium could be the most corrupt liars elected for president in our lifetimes. Neither one is capable of telling the truth.
volsense on December 13, 2010 at 4:20 PM
(Added missing “N” to healine to reflect the fact that the true cause of any economic improvement is that Obama has been neutered)
landlines on December 13, 2010 at 5:37 PM
They were $1.81 when Obama took office. Clearly Obama is in bed with Big Oil. Where is the outrage, msm???
xblade on December 13, 2010 at 6:18 PM
Good work! That one change makes the headline accurate.
tom on December 13, 2010 at 9:10 PM