Quotes of the day

posted at 10:40 pm on December 10, 2010 by Allahpundit

“Barack Obama won the great tax-cut showdown of 2010 – and House Democrats don’t have a clue that he did. In the deal struck this week, the president negotiated the biggest stimulus in American history, larger than his $814 billion 2009 stimulus package. It will pump a trillion borrowed Chinese dollars into the U.S. economy over the next two years – which just happen to be the two years of the run-up to the next presidential election. This is a defeat?…

“Some Republicans are crowing that Stimulus II is the Republican way – mostly tax cuts – rather than the Democrats’ spending orgy of Stimulus I. That’s consolation? This just means that Republicans are two years too late. Stimulus II will still blow another near-$1 trillion hole in the budget…

“Obama is no fool. While getting Republicans to boost his own reelection chances, he gets them to make a mockery of their newfound, second-chance, post-Bush, Tea-Party, this-time-we’re-serious persona of debt-averse fiscal responsibility…

“Not even Democrats are that stupid. The remaining question is whether they are just stupid enough to not understand – and therefore vote down – the swindle of the year just pulled off by their own president. ”

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“Another thing to think about regarding Dr. Krauthammer’s take: Whether or not this is a ‘swindle’ will depend on the next two years — and well beyond. If House Republicans go-along-to-get-along in the 112th, ignore the warnings of the Tea Parties, and do little or nothing on spending, then sure, this could shake out bad for conservatives both politically and policy-wise. You’d get a ‘sugar high’ recovery that might benefit Obama 2012, and another dollop of debt on this hot fiscal sundae.

“But Speaker-designate Boehner has said the next House will vote on one spending-cut measure a week for the first three months of 2011. These may prove symbolic or they may prove substantial — we won’t know until we see what’s in them. But if they’re followed up with a serious commitment to tackling entitlements and reforming the tax code, for instance, then it’s at least conceivable that the Republicans will have won lower taxes in advance of lower spending, with a conservative-friendly bit of Keynesian stimulus as an added bonus.”

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“To start with, let me just say that I think Krauthammer’s argument is overblown. My major beef is that in equating the tax deal with the February 2009 stimulus package, Krauthammer is accepting the liberal premise that taxes and spending are the same thing. While it’s true that from a budgetary standpoint, a reduction in revenue to federal coffers will increase the deficit, just as an increase in spending would, the difference is that a tax cut allows individuals to keep more of their own money, whereas expenditures represent the government confiscating wealth and distributing it as they see fit. Seeing tax cuts as a cost to government is to accept that all income earned belongs to the government in the first place. To the individual who comes home with a fatter paycheck because they’re sending less of their hard earned money to Washington, a tax cut isn’t a cost, but a savings.

“At the very least, I think that conservative critics of the deal have gone way overboard in attacking the deal as some sort of second coming of the economic stimulus boondoggle. If some conservatives still feel that the unemployment subsidies and tax credits are not worth swallowing, that’s one thing. But we should still recognize that an overwhelming majority of the deal is stuff that conservatives have either been actively campaigning for or would be perfectly comfortable with.”

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“This political reality makes the tax deal a bad bargain for Democrats. Think of it this way: The deal essentially sets up 2011-2012 to be a repeat of 2009-2010. Once again, there would be initial benefits from the stimulus, and decent growth a year before the election. But as the stimulus faded, growth would tend to stall — and this stall would, once again, come in the months leading up to the election, with seriously negative consequences for Mr. Obama and his party.

“You may say that economic policy shouldn’t be affected by partisan considerations. But even if you believe that — how’s the weather on your planet? — you have to consider the situation likely to prevail a year from now, as the good parts of the Obama-McConnell deal are about to expire. Wouldn’t there be pressure on Democrats to offer Republicans something, anything, to improve economic prospects for 2012? And wouldn’t that be a recipe for another bad deal?

“Surely the answer to both questions is yes. And that means that Mr. Obama is, as I said, paying for the release of some hostages — getting an extension of unemployment benefits and some more stimulus — by giving Republicans new hostages, which they may well use to make new, destructive demands a year from now.”

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This is not a “tax deal”. It’s a continuation of deficit spending. It’s disgusting.

SouthernGent on December 10, 2010 at 10:42 PM

A two year extension of the current tax rate might be good in the short term, but it won’t create the job growth like it did when first passed.

But then, democrats don’t think the money you earn actually belongs to you

Kini on December 10, 2010 at 10:45 PM

How many know the 35% estate tax sunsets in two years?

(The whole idea of estate planning is long run planning)

aquaviva on December 10, 2010 at 10:46 PM

the hammer sees a nail

is he right or just another rino?

windansea on December 10, 2010 at 10:47 PM

Tea party anyone?

Electrongod on December 10, 2010 at 10:47 PM

In the deal struck this week, the president negotiated the biggest stimulus in American history,

Huh? How exactly is keeping tax rates where they’ve been for nearly a decade a “stimulus”? Obama wants you to think it’s an attempt at stimulus so that when it fails to deliver the desired results, tax cuts can be blamed. Even though taxes haven’t been cut across the board.

ddrintn on December 10, 2010 at 10:48 PM

While getting Republicans to boost his own reelection chances, he gets them to make a mockery of their newfound, second-chance, post-Bush, Tea-Party, this-time-we’re-serious persona of debt-averse fiscal responsibility…

K-hammer hits it home yet again. This together with the earmark waffle adds up to some pretty weak tea.

abobo on December 10, 2010 at 10:49 PM

the GOp leadership should not play cards. they will lose the house. what morons. Just shut down the senate and go home until jan 13. ther eis nothing pressing that needs to be done.

unseen on December 10, 2010 at 10:49 PM

A two year extension of the current tax rate might be good in the short term, but it won’t create the job growth like it did when first passed.

Sure won’t, but a tax rate increase would hurt job growth.

Still, in 2009, instead of a trillion dollar stimulus, they should have passed a payroll tax holiday for a year or two – as many many people suggested.

lorien1973 on December 10, 2010 at 10:50 PM

ddrintn on December 10, 2010 at 10:48 PM

There’s the further extension in unemployment insurance; up to 3 years now – almost like a true welfare program.

And the miscellaneous spending in there, too.

lorien1973 on December 10, 2010 at 10:51 PM

K-hammer hits it home yet again.

abobo on December 10, 2010 at 10:49 PM

No he doesn’t. As the second writer points out, Krauthammer is just buying into the Democrat tax cuts-as-spending b.s. The purpose of extending the Bush tax rates isn’t to spur the economy, but to keep it from being destroyed altogether with higher Democrat rates.

ddrintn on December 10, 2010 at 10:52 PM

^ the third writer, actually.

ddrintn on December 10, 2010 at 10:53 PM

the GOp leadership should not play cards. they will lose the house. what morons.Just shut down the senate and go home until jan 13. ther eis nothing pressing that needs to be done.

unseen on December 10, 2010 at 10:49 PM

Sure, would be great. Unfortunately the GOP are in the minority, so they don’t get to do that, unless they’d like Dems to pass all the bills while they’re gone.

Missy on December 10, 2010 at 10:57 PM

There’s the further extension in unemployment insurance; up to 3 years now – almost like a true welfare program.

And the miscellaneous spending in there, too.

lorien1973 on December 10, 2010 at 10:51 PM

Which should all come from that ’09 “stimulus” monstrosity. There’s where the GOP is making the mistake.

ddrintn on December 10, 2010 at 10:58 PM

If the GOP can get a better deal in January, it should hold out for that.

1 year payroll tax holiday. Extension of Bush tax rates.

The extra spending in this one kinda irritates me. 2 years of unemployment benefits already inflates the unemployment rate. Another year of it? I’m not even sure why Obama would support this. It practically guarantees a 9.x% unemployment rate in 2012.

lorien1973 on December 10, 2010 at 11:03 PM

Chuck,

Sarah Palin agrees with you. In fact, she beat you to the punch once again.

Would you like her to leave the room now?

takeamericabackin10 on December 10, 2010 at 11:03 PM

CK is saying the Republicans should have went for perm Bush Tax rates!..:)

Dire Straits on December 10, 2010 at 11:03 PM

Some people may be confused as to why there’s such a discrepancy between the $857 billion cost in the figures I’ve presented, and the $990 billion figure Krauthammer used in his column.

I don’t know about you folks, but I’ve got an awful case of Stockholm syndrome

Kini on December 10, 2010 at 11:04 PM

ddrintn on December 10, 2010 at 10:52 PM

I realize that, but I still think that the reason for our economic instability is the temporary nature of the tax cuts, even if renewed. Businesses plan 4,6, and even 10 years in advance – not two. Then you’d also have to ask if the tax cuts would offset the government’s increased share of GDP given the extra stimulus. I’m not saying I don’t want the cuts renewed, but lets not pretend that a two year extension coupled with more government largesse is anything other than a band-aid on a shotgun wound.

abobo on December 10, 2010 at 11:06 PM

In the deal struck this week, the president negotiated the biggest stimulus in American history, larger than his $814 billion 2009 stimulus package. It will pump a trillion borrowed Chinese dollars into the U.S. economy over the next two years

Krauthammer displays an ironic sense of humor and a disastrous sense of what really needs to be said (especially in all things Obama).

What is playing out is a game of survival, most importantly that of the Republic, and as a sickening sideshow, the career of an ill prepared charlatan politico that conned his way center stage at the worst possible time.

ontherocks on December 10, 2010 at 11:06 PM

If the GOP can get a better deal in January, it should hold out for that.

1 year payroll tax holiday. Extension of Bush tax rates.

Include a reduction in capitol gains tax and corporate taxes, then watch the economy, and revenues take off.

Yet, Obama has told us before, this is what got us into the mess in the first place.

Kini on December 10, 2010 at 11:06 PM

Obama is never starving but rather always feeding the beast.

Schadenfreude on December 10, 2010 at 11:10 PM

Besides the extension of UI, there’s also a boat load of earmarks attached.

Paging Mr. Boehner! Paging Mr. McConnell!

Kini on December 10, 2010 at 11:11 PM

I’m not saying I don’t want the cuts renewed, but lets not pretend that a two year extension coupled with more government largesse is anything other than a band-aid on a shotgun wound.

abobo on December 10, 2010 at 11:06 PM

It’s better than an increase come January 31. THAT would be a disaster.

ddrintn on December 10, 2010 at 11:11 PM

This decade will go down as the FU-POTUS decade.
Not my words….but maybe my thoughts.

Electrongod on December 10, 2010 at 11:12 PM

Would you like her to leave the room now?

takeamericabackin10 on December 10, 2010 at 11:03 PM

Point, Set and Match!

Kini on December 10, 2010 at 11:12 PM

Krauthammr is right that it’s a swindle. He’s wrong on what the swindle is.

The sindle is this:

we get 2 years of tax rates not increasing. they get another year of unemployment benefits which will turn into another and another and another. Unemployment has now become welfare. And while we get 2 years of lower rate, they get infinity years of increased welfare.

Not to mention the passage of DREAM which I guarantee will happen because RINOs will need to show how grateful they are for this so-called compromise on taxes.

On a scale of 0-100, 0 being good for the country, 100 being bad, this is about a 95.

angryed on December 10, 2010 at 11:18 PM

1. This corrupt lame duck tax bill needs to die. Let the new congress deal with it. No pork, not. one. bit. The lame ducks should punt by extending the Bush tax cuts for one year. If there is any compromise it should be that we’ll extend Obama’s prior tax cuts for the same amount of time, allowing the next congress to deal with it. The peoples congress, not the lame ducks.

2. An amendment to the Constitution should be considered to limit the power of lame duck congresses rejected by the electorate.

3. McConnell and Boehner are part of the problem in Washington, not the solution.

FloatingRock on December 10, 2010 at 11:19 PM

All the hard work of the Tea party & Conservative movement might all be undone within 2 weeks. If McConnell & Boehner don’t counter Obama and the democrats Trojan Horse tactics with a demand that they remove it all, it will be a disaster.

Its depressing.

portlandon on December 10, 2010 at 11:22 PM

Obama is never starving but rather always feeding the beast.

Schadenfreude on December 10, 2010 at 11:10 PM

I think Obama is the beast. Have you seen him eat?
He can scarf down a waffle like it’s no one’s business

Kini on December 10, 2010 at 11:25 PM

An unemployment extension should be a separate bill.

FloatingRock on December 10, 2010 at 11:26 PM

An unemployment extension should be a separate bill.

FloatingRock on December 10, 2010 at 11:26 PM

it should be..If this thing goes into the 2011 I think it will be!..:)

Dire Straits on December 10, 2010 at 11:29 PM

And then there is the fallacy of a “permanent” tax cut. The tax code and the rates can change every two years if the House and Senate agree.

There is no such animal as a permanent tax cut or a permanent tax rate.

BigAlSouth on December 10, 2010 at 11:31 PM

Windmill subsidies.

blatantblue on December 10, 2010 at 11:31 PM

Krauthammer is wrong to think Obama is so shrewd. Obama is not shrewd. If he were, he wouldn’t be in the dire straits he’s in how. His healthcare would be loved. He wouldn’t need arch-enemy Bill Clinton to stand in for him.

So Charles, if you’re reading, please get off this Obama is brilliant meme. He is not. You love chess, Charles. Think of Obama as a guy who can spout lots of chess moves and names but can’t win a game to save his soul.

MaxMBJ on December 10, 2010 at 11:33 PM

As I tried to tell you…

… What bill?

It is still being written by the pork of those voted out of office. Politics as usual and everything most of us voted against on November 2nd…

The Democrats still have the majority in both Houses until January 1st…

… What the new Congressmen and Women need to do, is put blame where it belongs, and send a cold shiver of reality up the spine of the New Leadership to make them hold their ground.

This is not over yet…

Seven Percent Solution on December 10, 2010 at 11:34 PM

MaxMBJ on December 10, 2010 at 11:33 PM

It’s not that Obama is brilliant, it’s that McConnell and Boehner are suckers.

FloatingRock on December 10, 2010 at 11:39 PM

It’s not just the 50 billion plus added to the deficit for 13 extra weeks of unemployment bennies. There are other pieces of this 900 billion sh!t-pie including the estate tax increase from 0 to 35%. The real issue is the host of subsidies included in the bill for things like windmills. As conservative US Representative James Lankford from Oklahoma stated about this deal: “the devil is in the details.” The reason why nobody has been able to read the bill in it’s entirety is because it’s loaded with appropriations.

Some of the spending details in this tax deal ain’t pretty and they certainly aren’t going to improve the economy.

anXdem on December 10, 2010 at 11:46 PM

blatantblue on December 10, 2010 at 11:31 PM

Oops. You beat me to it, blatantblue!

anXdem on December 10, 2010 at 11:48 PM

what?

moochy on December 10, 2010 at 11:58 PM

moochy on December 10, 2010 at 11:58 PM

Could you elaborate?

FloatingRock on December 11, 2010 at 12:00 AM

IT is worth everyones time to listen to TEMS show rerun for today! Ed and Dwayne do a very good job in discussing this subject!.. :)

Dire Straits on December 11, 2010 at 12:00 AM

Let the Dems kill it, have the tax rates go up, have the electorate flipping mad at the socialists, have the new Republican House legislate far steeper tax cuts retroactively Jan 20.

Eat it, Obama.

John the Libertarian on December 11, 2010 at 12:08 AM

John the Libertarian on December 11, 2010 at 12:08 AM

That line of thinking is starting to pick up steam..:)

Dire Straits on December 11, 2010 at 12:10 AM

Man Hammer, You da Man!

No one else could bait

the GOP leadership like you.

You go girl!

OkieDoc on December 11, 2010 at 12:12 AM

Why do people keep saying this will “cost” $900 billion?? Aside from the unemployment stuff this is really just an extension of the EXISTING tax code that has been in effect for nine years. It doesn’t cost anything, and it will prevent a tax body blow to a weak economy. Hell, I’m surprised its gotten this far since the Republicans DO NOT CONTROL THE HOUSE yet. They are still the clear majority party until January, so that any slow down of tax increases is happening is pretty amazing.

EasyEight on December 11, 2010 at 12:19 AM

Repeat after me. It is not the governments money. It is not the governments money.

The money people earn belongs to them not to the government.

Therefore, the tax cuts do not cost the government anything! If they did the figuring on income that did not belong to them well that was the problem not the problem of the people who earned the money.

Taxed Enough Already

That would mean nothing at all if now those who used to call themselves Tea Party want taxes to increase January 1, 2011.

If Tea Party people start attacking the very thing most of them have chanted for the last two years… I give up. This country is totally and completely insane.

No one on either side means a word they say, I’m so disappointed in Krauthammer, he to is all about political advantage not about allowing people to keep their own money!

petunia on December 11, 2010 at 12:23 AM

Tea Partly?

profitsbeard on December 11, 2010 at 12:32 AM

Why do people keep saying this will “cost” $900 billion?? Aside from the unemployment stuff this is really just an extension of the EXISTING tax code that has been in effect for nine years. It doesn’t cost anything

EasyEight on December 11, 2010 at 12:19 AM

That’s true, but Krauthammer is measuring the bill by the lefts own standards and terminology.

FloatingRock on December 11, 2010 at 12:35 AM

Why do people keep saying this will “cost” $900 billion??

EasyEight on December 11, 2010 at 12:19 AM

The bill also included subsidies. Such as ethanol, and lots more appropriations goodies.

That’s what has Bernie Sanders, and all his socialist democrat buddies, with their panties in a bunch are all mad about. He thinks by making the rich pay more will pay for all the pork in the bill.

Boehner and McConnell are playing chicken with this. They are gambling that the democrats will implode and cave before the beginning of the new year. They should be pointing out all the crap in the bill, but they are not.

Obama, the socialist democrats, and the MSM, have begun the economic hostage crisis by calling the Republicans Tax Terrorists.

Meanwhile, the American people are caught in between two pissing contests.

Kini on December 11, 2010 at 12:35 AM

Tea Partly?

profitsbeard on December 11, 2010 at 12:32 AM

Not till next year

Kini on December 11, 2010 at 12:39 AM

Try this again!
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Freaggin Ugh,more Purgation acometh
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GOP Legislative Agenda for 2010
by Chad Pergram | September 22, 2010
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Rank-and-file House Republicans get their first glimpse at the GOP legislative agenda tonight, one day before the leadership team showcases the plan during a press conference and small business roundtable at a lumber warehouse in suburban Virginia.

The game plan is culled from the Republicans’ “America Speaking Out” initiative, which solicited the online input of Americans for two months earlier in the year.

The GOP plan is divided into five, distinct policy areas: 1) the economy, 2) government spending, 3) health care, 4) government reform and 5) national security.

http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/09/22/gop-legislative-agenda-2010
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House GOP Launches “America Speaking Out” Online Initiative
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Today, Republicans in the House of Representative launched an online initiative very similar to the Contract from America, in which they intend to solicit ideas from the American people. Presumably they will act on the best ideas and perhaps on those that generate the greatest response. Their initiative is called, “America Speaking Out” and it can be found online at http://www.americaspeakingout.com/.

http://www.thecontract.org/2010/05/house-gop-launches-america-speaking-out-online-initiative/
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America Speaking Out
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http://www.americaspeakingout.com/

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2010 Contract with America – 8 Steps to Trust
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http://promiseofamerica.com/leadership/2010-contract-america-8-steps-trust/
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Goodnight everyone,a quick pop in,now I’ve got enemy
fighters to snuff out in Ace Combat!

canopfor on December 11, 2010 at 12:45 AM

Love how every bill next year is going to require Murkowski pork sandwich to pass. Go to Hell Alaska.

PrezHussein on December 11, 2010 at 12:51 AM

Up and down vote or BUST

thedude on December 11, 2010 at 12:55 AM

Isn’t Colonel Charles suppose to be off somewhere with General Sarah hunting down Osama bin Assange before he destroys Western Civilization?

Luka on December 11, 2010 at 1:09 AM

Rather than ‘Obama’s swindle’ I would call the proposed legislation a case of more of the same. Neither party is willing to pay a political price for fiscal sanity. The Republicans refuse to raise any taxes and want to maintain deficit building tax cuts. The Democrats want an expensive continuation of federal stimulus in the form of extended unemployment benefits. They keep their constituents happy but dig a deeper fiscal hole.

At some point the hard choice to raise taxes AND cut spending needs to be made but they keep kicking the can further down the road to the detriment of everyone. The system is skewered towards winning elections and not formulating sound, balanced policy.

lexhamfox on December 11, 2010 at 1:10 AM

Why do people keep saying this will “cost” $900 billion?? Aside from the unemployment stuff this is really just an extension of the EXISTING tax code that has been in effect for nine years. It doesn’t cost anything

EasyEight on December 11, 2010 at 12:19 AM

That’s true, but Krauthammer is measuring the bill by the lefts own standards and terminology.

FloatingRock on December 11, 2010 at 12:35 AM

The tax cuts were passed some time ago but some of the most onerous of them only recently took effect. Tax cuts reduce revenue and increase budget gaps and the deficit. It’s not ‘leftist terminology’ to consider the cost of reduced revenues.

lexhamfox on December 11, 2010 at 1:14 AM

I don’t accept the premise that tax cuts reduce revenue. Start over.

Ronnie on December 11, 2010 at 1:17 AM

This fiasco proves again, conclusively, we can only defeat collectivism, compromise is no improvement, in the short or long term either one.

This is no time to go all wobbly.

Speakup on December 11, 2010 at 1:21 AM

Tax cuts reduce revenue

lexhamfox on December 11, 2010 at 1:14 AM

What?

John the Libertarian on December 11, 2010 at 1:21 AM

revenue(rev·e·nue)

late Middle English: from Old French revenu(e) ‘returned’, past participle (used as a noun) of revenir, from Latin revenire ‘return’, from re- ‘back’ + venire ‘come

So, to call this theft “revenue” is tantamount to this:
1427–8 Rolls of Parl.: Henry VI (Electronic ed.) Parl. Oct. 1427 §13. m. 9, Þat þe collectours of þe goode and revenue of þe saide grauntes, be resonably rewarded.

Or this:
1765 T. Smollett Trav. (1766) II. 198 [The French King] has the revenue of the farms.

Our country was subverted back at it’s early inception by agents of Britania to place us squarely into the tax collecting business, instead of the freedom business.

So, if this is “revenue”, why isn’t it coming back to me?
Where’s my return and why have I no “VOICE” in how it’s paid back?? (And don’t give me the BS line of representative government- see how that’s working out.)

It’s my work product. Not yours. You’re a thief.

OkieDoc on December 11, 2010 at 1:41 AM

What?

John the Libertarian on December 11, 2010 at 1:21 AM

I didn’t understand it either.

Kini on December 11, 2010 at 1:43 AM

In theory tax cuts may reduce revenue. But in practice tax cuts have improved the economy over all enough that they are either neutral or have an actual increase in revenue.

That is a point that Krauthammer seems not to believe.

He doesn’t buy that an increase in taxes will mean more unemployment and a further stalled economy.

At this point the only options are to increase revenue by jump starting the economy with tax cuts… making the projected deficet higher… or at least stop discouraging and recovery with anti-business policies like unpredictable tax rates… And then of course, next year we must cut spending a big way.

Cutting taxes has increase revenue before, why shouldn’t it work now?

Why is Krauthammer ignoring history?

petunia on December 11, 2010 at 1:46 AM

OK people, we have to understand the unemployment part of this “deal”. This bill does not add 13 more months to the 99 weeks maximum, it EXTENDS the federal extensions through 2011. The UI payments still stop at 99 weeks, thankfully. I followed a link here in the comments section in one of the hotair thread to the federal website that handles the federal part of the unemployment extensions.

I was extremely upset when I first heard the 13 months extension, and I am glad I followed the link and read what the reality is. However, NO main stream press or bloggers for that matter, are accurately depicting this part of the “deal”.

I hate the deal with all of the pork. We need an up or down vote on the extensions of the current tax rates, no increases for anyone. We need an up or down vote on the unemployment extensions. Then all this other crapola palooza special interest spending needs to be put back into the regular budget process and let the legislation work on the merits of each and every little porky project and have up or down votes for each section of the budget.

Failing that, replace all republican leadership and start over.

karenhasfreedom on December 11, 2010 at 1:47 AM

Tax cuts reduce revenue

lexhamfox on December 11, 2010 at 1:14 AM

Before we talk of tax cut or raise, WE SHOULD BE TALKING FIRST OF:

1. Tax collection efficiency. How efficient are we? What’s the potential gains from efficient collection?

2. Budget priorities. If UI benefits extension is the priority of this Administration, then kill off other unnecessary expenditures.

TheAlamos on December 11, 2010 at 1:48 AM

I don’t accept the premise that tax cuts reduce revenue. Start over.

Ronnie on December 11, 2010 at 1:17 AM

Only in the world of Leftist lying liars. Thanks, Dr. Krauthammer, for helping America fail that much more quickly. Your muddying the waters by promoting yet another of the Leftist’s Big Lies will continue to fuel confusion and division as you implant the meme that Americans’ income belongs to the government, first, last and always.

Not only do you need to leave the room, Dr. Obama-man-crush, but we need to lock the door behind you. Permanently.

tigerlily on December 11, 2010 at 2:35 AM

As usual, the Hammer rarely misses.

Awesome piece today.

The Ugly American on December 11, 2010 at 2:39 AM

The only way the extension of the current tax rates “costs” anything is if irresponsible and greedy Progressives had already spent that money before it was ever raised! It’s as if you anticipate getting a raise on Friday and go out and spend like crazy, maxing out your credit card before your paycheck comes in only to find out that you didn’t get that extra money…so you scream at the world about how the company cost you money by not giving you your raise.

EasyEight on December 11, 2010 at 3:41 AM

Love how every bill next year is going to require Murkowski pork sandwich to pass. Go to Hell Alaska.

PrezHussein on December 11, 2010 at 12:51 AM

Don’t tell me to go to hell. I didn’t vote for the wench. And neither did the majority of Alaskans. It was fixed for her to win.

tbear44 on December 11, 2010 at 4:31 AM

I don’t know whether to be amused, or frightened.

Watching Clinton back in the White House trying to convince the socialist communist democrats to approve the extension of the tax rates, or listening to the deafening silence of the GOP.

While the left goes gaga over the return of America’s first Black president, America’s first socialist president goes off to what he does best, Party On Dude!

There’s no mention on how they will fund another extension of the UI benefits.

karenhasfreedom on December 11, 2010 at 1:47 AM

If you can add the link where it does say that in the bill, because I cannot find it except on the Government’s website. My understanding is that extending the tax rates comes with an extension of the UI benefits. Along with other spending, but maybe I missed it.

There’s no mention of a reduction in spending, on how they will pay for this.

Kini on December 11, 2010 at 4:55 AM

I like the language – swindle is the correct term, IMHO. Where I disagree with Krautie, is exactly who all the swindlers are

A 35 percent death tax does not take down big corporations, it slows down coupon clippers and and makes endagnered species of what are incorrectly called ‘small’ businesses, those million dollar plus small shops, privately owned, employing 20 to a couple hundred folk who might be making bottle brushes in Chicago, or auto trim, or fab blankets down in N Carolina. Much of the production is automated so payroll is small, but investment is big, and death equals liquidation of the property to pay the tax

Death tax should be called ‘death of privately owned business-tax’. From such ‘small’ business comes the new blood when the old dinosaurs become enmeshed by their bulk, and their cold blooded international owners obtain sufficient leverage to move the jobs and technology elsewhere

Retaining capital gains rates prevents the sell off that was coming, but otherwise maintains the current downhill rush to the bottom.

How very useful the lame duck just shot down a restriction on earmarks

Supposedly ‘rogue’ GOPs became the swing vote to protect earmarks for future lame duck votes. What rogues? A couple crooks, and a couple the GOP establishment fought tooth and nail to seat

Now the jokers in both parties could vote to put a halt to earmarks, confident the useful ‘rogues’ will play their part and pretend to be the only bad guys

Does anyone not now see the reason for the frantic effort to take down O Donnell and Miller and keep them out of the lame duck? Was O Donnell a kook? She was kooky enough to vote against earmarks, had she been elected. Ditto, Miller.

Luckily for so many who cannot be named, the Murk found her slot and performed well.

Now I watch Obamacare redux. I am getting tired of the game of pretending so-and-so from such and such state had to be bribed to get them to vote for Obamacare the tax bill.

There are so many shell games being played on the public, they ought to drop the stories about arm twisting. Some of the twisters are getting overweight on the pork, and eventually a rogue porker is put down.

These porkers are so well fed we may have to use the jaws of life to pry them from their offices when they retire of old age.

I dont even believe all the rage from the left. It serves a useful purpose (if Clinton had a hand in it), for as the Left rages, Obama looks like he moved to the center. (doesnt mean lefties are not angy, just means it was necessary for them to be angry – better theatre)

I give Clinton credit for not acting like he really gave a rats ax about Obama, in their recent audience. Got to respect the guy for lifting his pinkie to help a guy who didnt do it on his own like Clinton

All in all a disgusting display and a guarantee the Tea Party will not end

entagor on December 11, 2010 at 4:56 AM

The whole thing stinks and is nothing more than an order of status quo with some extra pork on the side. And Krauthammer being called brilliant for just pointing out what Palin, DeMint, Bachmann and others already pointed out?
Oh, that’s right, an opinion is not brilliant unless an elite RINO gives it.

Done That on December 11, 2010 at 6:46 AM

“Relief” is not the same as “stimulation” unless you are Al Gore with a massage therapist.
We are “relieved” that tax rates will remain the same, but that will not “stimulate” the economy because there is no extra or new money to spend. Oh, wait! But there is new SPENDING thanks to the four year fear and change campaign by the Bush and Obama administrations.
This tax and pork bill will slow the slide into bankruptcy but it will not solve the spending problem. On this point I agree with the Maharushi, (who seemed to be kinda confused about Dr.K. opinion).
I agree with Dr. K that this bill is a political winner for Obama because it is of his making – before the Republicans take control in January. But it is only a very small step toward economic sanity, and unless the Republicans endorse and fight for drastic cuts in spending come January, there will be renewed calls for a 3rd Party in 2012.

Randy

williars on December 11, 2010 at 6:50 AM

Oh my!


Poll: Obama’s losing support; Romney would beat him now

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama’s approval ratings have sunk to the lowest level of his presidency, so low that he’d lose the White House to Republican Mitt Romney if the election were held today, according to a new McClatchy-Marist poll.

The biggest reason for Obama’s fall: a sharp drop in approval among Democrats and liberals, apparently unhappy with his moves toward the center since he led the party to landslide losses in November’s midterm elections. At the same time, he’s gained nothing among independents.

“He’s having the worst of both worlds right now,” said Lee Miringoff, the director of the Marist Institute for Public Opinion at Marist College in New York, which conducted the national survey.

“As he moves to the center, he’s not picking up support among independents and he’s having some fall-off among his base. If his strategy is to gain independents and keep the Democrats in tow, it isn’t working so far.”

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/12/10/105105/poll-obamas-losing-support-romney.html

Tony737 on December 11, 2010 at 7:28 AM

If Mr. Krauthammer is correct then why was Obama testy? If Obama just pulled a fast one, why isn’t Obama his arrogant, cocky self? If it was a swindle, Obama backed into it.

steveracer on December 11, 2010 at 7:54 AM

A stimulus? By this logic – not raping a prostitue makes her a virgin?

Don L on December 11, 2010 at 8:15 AM

All 3 are Khazar…

Hmm…

True_King on December 11, 2010 at 8:18 AM

Sorry. Dr K is full of crap on this one.

I guarantee the Repubs will do something more to the tax changes come January. This is just the first step.

A political win for Odummy.? are you kidding me? This clown as so many anchors attached to him now that he is pulling BJ Clinton in to try and save himself.

puhlease.

exsanguine on December 11, 2010 at 8:28 AM

A tax credit is not the same thing as a subsidy. I guess I just don’t really know what conservatives expected. The truth is you could do away with the tax credits and the extension of unemployment benefits and just continue the Bush tax cuts…and there would still be a deficit. And the people who are voting on this are the same people who have been running things for the last 2 to 4 years, and a lot of them will be gone in a month. So what do they care?

I don’t recall conservatives predicating the extension of those tax cuts on anything, they have been demanding the extension for years now.

The truth is those add ons are a drop in bucket compared to overall spending. I know we have to start somewhere, but real cuts are not going to be made now with this Congress voting on these tax cuts. And if that is what conservatives wanted then why insist on the tax cuts in the first place?

Terrye on December 11, 2010 at 8:30 AM

Allah: How hard were you laughing when you wrote this?:

Republicans will have won lower taxes in advance of lower spending, with a conservative-friendly bit of Keynesian stimulus as an added bonus.”

paulsur on December 11, 2010 at 8:36 AM

Chuck,

Sarah Palin agrees with you. In fact, she beat you to the punch once again.

Would you like her to leave the room now?

takeamericabackin10 on December 10, 2010 at 11:03 PM

+2012

I don’t know who’s paying close attention to the fact that Sarah’s braintrust is getting more impressive every day.

horatio on December 11, 2010 at 8:44 AM

ddrintn on December 10, 2010 at 10:48 PM

The bill is a lot more than just the extension of the tax rates and unemployment. Does anyone really think that adds up to 900 billion? They larded the thing up.

KILL THIS BILL.

dogsoldier on December 11, 2010 at 8:51 AM

“This is not a “tax deal”. It’s a continuation of deficit spending. It’s disgusting.

SouthernGent on December 10, 2010 at 10:42 PM”

Only 6% is spending, $56 billion of 990 billion

elfman on December 11, 2010 at 9:24 AM

Terrye on December 11, 2010 at 8:30 AM

WTF are you American?

Inanemergencydial on December 11, 2010 at 9:49 AM

Tax cuts reduce revenue and increase budget gaps and the deficit. It’s not ‘leftis

t terminology’ to consider the cost of reduced revenues.

I smell troll.
The govt is not in “business” to make revenue you clown.

Spending beyond the GIFTED amount from the taxpayers creates deficits….not lower taxes.

stupid breeds stupid I guess.

exsanguine on December 11, 2010 at 10:22 AM

ack…block quote vomited on itself..sorry folks.

exsanguine on December 11, 2010 at 10:23 AM

Krauthammer is dead on with this. Negotiated, my a**.

ultracon on December 11, 2010 at 10:35 AM

Still don’t believe Obama outmanoevred you?

Grow Fins on December 11, 2010 at 11:35 AM

“conservative-friendly bit of Keynesian stimulus as an added bonus.”

There is no such thing. Keynesiam is and always has been a Progressive idea and project. It is socialist economics lite. 2012 is the most important near term question. Republicans tends to be Democratic enablers and place holders. Maybe they just did it again. A stimulus just in time to help win back Democratic seats in the 2012 congressional elections.

Viator on December 11, 2010 at 11:43 AM

The mathematicians seem to have become too far removed from individual experience. Household managers who were looking ahead regarding the affairs of their own house know that a loss to their income has been narrowly averted. They have not forgotten that they had to defeat left-”liberals,” in order to make the Congress and the President yield and refrain from taking more of their income.

But the problem of spending remains. In the language of parasitism, restraining the growth rate of one’s nutritive losses seems, at best, a means to an end. The parasites remain attached, and they have contrived legal means of getting their nutrition on loan, while designating the hosts as payers. It seems the bloodletting will continue until the Americans detach their parasites. But this is a matter for careful consideration, inasmuch as the parasites are protected by much the same laws as the hosts.

Kralizec on December 11, 2010 at 11:55 AM

It’s easy to say that extending unemployment benefits will create a permanent entitlement mentality, but if you’re the one out of a job and struggling to pay your mortgage, it gives you a chance to stay in your home while you hunt for a very limited number of jobs. My husband has been out of work for almost six months (a job he lost because of budget cuts), has applied for nearly a hundred jobs, and has had only a handful of interviews (middle-age white men need not apply). His unemployment does not even cover our mortgage, so we are thankful that mine covers our other expenses, such as food and heat.

The assumption that those collecting unemployment are lazy or don’t want to work is erroneous. Unfortunately, many of the unemployed are like my husband, middle-age professionals who were forced out and are not considered desirable by employers. We both plan to work well into our 70s as long as someone wants to hire us. So, don’t assume that we don’t want to work; assume that we want to eat.

College Prof on December 11, 2010 at 12:43 PM

Kini on December 10, 2010 at 10:45 PM

Your missing the point.

A two year extension of the current tax rate adds stability to the markets, it gives those on the sidelines a sense that the Nutty Uncles and Aunts are once again down in the basement. And the Nutty king can be put in check.

The plan buys time for sanity.

DSchoen on December 11, 2010 at 3:32 PM

This was the stupidest column Krauthammer ever wrote, and it’s quote of the day?!

Granted, it’s extremely rare that you can classify anything Krauthammer writes as stupid, but this is the exception.

There’s a big difference between the government taking our tax money and spending it in an attempt at stimulus, and the government NOT taking our tax money and letting us spend it ourselves. A pundit of Krauthammer’s status should know the difference.

And this is beside the fact that extending the previous tax cuts is not cutting new taxes, but simply refusing to raise them further during a recession. IT used to be considered common wisdom that it was a bad idea to raise taxes during a recession. A pundit of Krauthammer’s status should remember that obvious point.

Why would a normally intelligent analyst like Krauthammer make such an obviously erroneous comparison? Are we sure he didn’t let Eugene Robinson guest-write this column?

There Goes The Neighborhood on December 11, 2010 at 3:34 PM

There Goes The Neighborhood on December 11, 2010 at 3:34 PM

I don’t know about the Hammer lately, I wonder if he is going establishment on us.

slickwillie2001 on December 11, 2010 at 4:20 PM

A tax credit is not the same thing as a subsidy.

Oh, I beg to differ. A tax credit is nothing more than one taxpayer subsidizing the behavior of another, that is if the individual taking the credit actually pays any taxes. In addition, when the tax credit involves the use of a particular good or service, it’s also an indirect taxpayer subsidy to the provider of that good or service. I am generally opposed to tax credits.

I stand with the Hammer on this one. It was a bad deal to begin with; now it really stinks up the place.

SukieTawdry on December 11, 2010 at 5:17 PM

Krauthammer is a jillion times smarter than me but how it can be figured that keeping the same tax rates is raising the deficit beats me. It’s like me saying “Hell, I didn’t get that raise today so I’ve went head over heels in debt by buying that Escalade last week. Make less Spend less

Herb on December 12, 2010 at 9:34 AM

Krauthammer is a jillion times smarter than me but how it can be figured that keeping the same tax rates is raising the deficit beats me. It’s like me saying “Hell, I didn’t get that raise today so I’ve went head over heels in debt by buying that Escalade last week. Make less Spend less

Exactly— it isn’t less/more taxes causing the deficit. It is the spending. I have no idea why they have such a hard time with this concept

Noelie on December 12, 2010 at 6:03 PM