Nader: Obama’s a “con man,” hints at indie run in 2012

posted at 8:48 am on December 10, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

No good progressive rebellion would be complete without hearing from Ralph Nader, and the two-time presidential candidate and notorious spoiler finally weighed in on the tax deal Barack Obama cut with the GOP.  Needless to say, Nader is less than impressed with the President, and demanded a primary challenge from the left to defeat the “con man” currently in the White House.  And if one doesn’t step forward, well, Nader might pull his campaign out of mothballs and give it one more go himself:

“He has no fixed principles,” Nader said, of Mr. Obama. “He’s opportunistic — he goes for expedience, like Clinton. Some call him temperamentally conflict-averse. If you want to be harsher, you say he has no principles and he’s opportunistic.”

“He’s a con man,” Nader continued. “I have no use for him.”

Nader urged a progressive candidate to challenge Mr. Obama for the presidency in 2012, and said that while he wasn’t altogether disallowing the possibility of running himself, it was time for a new progressive leader to step forward.

“Obama’s position has been that the liberal, progressive wing has nowhere to go, therefore they can’t turn their back on the administration. But a challenge will hold his feet to the fire and signal that we do have somewhere to go,” Nader said.

“I’m not foreclosing the possibility [of running]… There are just other things to do,” he continued. “And it’s time for someone else to continue. I’ve done it so many times. When I go around the country, I’m telling people they need to find somebody.”

Could Republicans get this lucky?  Yes, we can!  Seriously, though, the progressive wing of the Democratic Party isn’t likely to back yet another step along the Harold Stassen road for Nader, and Nader himself seems to realize it.  If Nader ran, he’d be the Maytag Repairman of presidential candidates with very little chance of impacting the results.

As an activist, though, Nader could have plenty of impact.  He’s likely to serve as a rallying point for angry progressives at the moment, and the era of Republican control of the House will provide plenty of opportunities for even more anger.  Instead of being king, Nader could easily play kingmaker for someone on the inside of the party to step up against Obama.  Nader thinks that a primary is a given, “[j]ust a question of how prominent” the challenger will be.  Can he recruit someone with enough credibility to run against a sitting President?  Russ Feingold’s looking for work, but Obama did a lot of campaigning for Feingold in a desperate attempt to rescue his job.  Howard Dean has insisted he’s not interested.  Who’s left?  Wes Clark?


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Nader: “Obama, unsafe at any speed.”

Inanemergencydial on December 10, 2010 at 8:50 AM

The Corvair of Prog elections.
Run Nader, Run!!!!!!!

Hening on December 10, 2010 at 8:50 AM

Nader really, really, really needs to get a life.

jeanie on December 10, 2010 at 8:50 AM

It took Nader 2 years to figure that out?

It was obvious that he was a used car salesman before he was even elected.

percysunshine on December 10, 2010 at 8:52 AM

Can’t GM reissue the Corviar and get this man out of lives?

Cindy Munford on December 10, 2010 at 8:52 AM

Please run Nader!

csdeven on December 10, 2010 at 8:52 AM

Nader Bolt 2012

Bishop on December 10, 2010 at 8:53 AM

Con man, Corvair ……same difference.

Jerome Horwitz on December 10, 2010 at 8:53 AM

Excellent!

/Montgomery Burns

Run Ralph, run.

rbj on December 10, 2010 at 8:53 AM

Do it, Ralphie, do it!

AZCoyote on December 10, 2010 at 8:54 AM

Howard Dean for President in 2012!!!! Yeeeeeeeehaaaaaw!

Rovin on December 10, 2010 at 8:55 AM

Michael Ramirez needs to do a cartoon with Obama driving a Corvair.

percysunshine on December 10, 2010 at 8:55 AM

A con man can always recognize another one.

50sGuy on December 10, 2010 at 8:56 AM

Do it, Ralphie, do it!

AZCoyote on December 10, 2010 at 8:54 AM

yep, split that vote.

hawkdriver on December 10, 2010 at 8:56 AM


“He’s a con man,” Nader continued.

What, you just now came to this conclusion?

Wow, you’re a real quick learner, aren’t you?

Tony737 on December 10, 2010 at 8:58 AM

“I voted for Nader! I hate everyone!

Every time I hear his name I think of that video. It’s an oldie, but a goodie. (Language content warning on that one though.)

wearyman on December 10, 2010 at 8:58 AM

The answer for the progressives is Pelosi. Go ahead Nan, run!

booter on December 10, 2010 at 8:58 AM

Best news in a while. I believe he still has a certain and not inconsiderable appeal to idiot college students (is that an oxymoron?)

rrpjr on December 10, 2010 at 8:59 AM


If Nader ran, he’d be the Maytag Repairman of presidential candidates …

Hahaha nice one, Ed!

Tony737 on December 10, 2010 at 9:03 AM

As an activist, though, Nader could have plenty of impact.  He’s likely to serve as a rallying point for angry progressives at the moment, and the era of Republican control of the House will provide plenty of opportunities for even more anger.  Instead of being king, Nader could easily play kingmaker for someone on the inside of the party to step up against Obama

The problem — or the really, really fun thing — for the angry folks on the far left when it comes to Ralph being their voice against Obama is they see Nader’s face and the immediately think of the 2000 Florida recount and George W. Bush, and those 10-year-old memories come flooding back like a jagged ice pick thrurst into their brains.

They’d rather have Keith Olbermann biting into his script and howling at the cameras as their spokesperson than they would Nader, but Ralph’s ego is so big he won’t care and will get into the fight no matter how painful it still is for liberals to see or hear him.

jon1979 on December 10, 2010 at 9:10 AM

Obama’s a con-man? What tipped him off to that?
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B Man on December 10, 2010 at 9:11 AM

Please run Mr. Nadar, please. Your ego demands that you be defeated once again.

SC.Charlie on December 10, 2010 at 9:11 AM

Nader finally says something I agree with.

It was obvious that he was a used car salesman before he was even elected.

percysunshine on December 10, 2010 at 8:52 AM

I’ve been saying for years that the man was the ultimate flim-flam man; an empty suit; the naked emperor; a strutting in-experienced jack-ass who isn’t fit to manage a hamburger joint; a closeted socialist; a pompous windbag; an arrogant twit; a narcissistic weasel; a slimy bastard; an ignorant buffoon; a spoiled rotten brat; a liar; a sociopath; … … … … …

Rod on December 10, 2010 at 9:13 AM

SWEET. I’m going to need more popcorn.

bitsy on December 10, 2010 at 9:14 AM

Obama is not con man. He is just a petulant child, who can read a teleprompter. I have never seen a president such as Obama. He blames everyone, except for himself.

SC.Charlie on December 10, 2010 at 9:14 AM

Who’s he going to get to take on the mantle of Progressive nutcase? The Dem stable is pretty much exhausted.

BetseyRoss on December 10, 2010 at 9:15 AM

Ralph is a pretty good con man himself. He conned lots of people into donating to all his Presidential campaigns.

albill on December 10, 2010 at 9:17 AM

Yeah, run buddy. Would love to have you on the nightly news sucking all the PETAs and SpaceCadets into your camp.

Limerick on December 10, 2010 at 9:20 AM

Run, Ralphie, run!

Really Right on December 10, 2010 at 9:20 AM

He might get 10% of the vote in 2012, but it won’t make any difference regarding Obooba’s fate.

Akzed on December 10, 2010 at 9:21 AM

SC.Charlie on December 10, 2010 at 9:14 AM

“If you like your health insurance you can keep it.”

B Man on December 10, 2010 at 9:22 AM

Two time, Ed? I believe you’re off by two – he’s run in every presidential election since 1996.

The term “perennial candidate” is starting to apply. He’s the new LaRouche.

Red Cloud on December 10, 2010 at 9:23 AM

“He’s a con man,” Nader continued. “I have no use for him.”

Bwwwwwaaaaaahahahahahaha!

Yesterday I called the fringe lefty attacks on O’Bozo “Schadenfreude Nirvana”, but this is a full click better. “Con Man”?! I mean…Nader’s absolutely dead right and we have been saying this since his 2004 Senate campaign. But it is astonishing to read liberals ripping him this way.

What’s above Nirvana?

Jaibones on December 10, 2010 at 9:25 AM

I thought Ralph had passed away.

JimP on December 10, 2010 at 9:26 AM

nader would probably pull his largest share of votes yet out of all the runs that he has made.

ted c on December 10, 2010 at 9:27 AM

What’s above Nirvana?

Jaibones on December 10, 2010 at 9:25 AM

isn’t it Valhalla?

ted c on December 10, 2010 at 9:28 AM

Rod on December 10, 2010 at 9:13 AM

Tell us how you really feel! Stop holding back! Let it all out! haha

Tony737 on December 10, 2010 at 9:28 AM

I would be concerned that some percentage of uncommitteds and independents would see Nader so far to the left that they might see Jug-ears as centrist by comparison. It would be a false assumption, of course, but politics is all about promoting false assumptions.

Extrafishy on December 10, 2010 at 9:31 AM

What’s above Nirvana?

Jaibones on December 10, 2010 at 9:25 AM

isn’t it Valhalla?

ted c on December 10, 2010 at 9:28 AM

That’s an affirmative. The heaven for honorable warriors is above that for wimpy hippies.

wearyman on December 10, 2010 at 9:31 AM

Really, Ralph?… Seriously?

Haven’t we heard this song and dance elebenty million times before?

With the same, boring, useless effect?

Jack.

Jack Deth on December 10, 2010 at 9:33 AM

I have just two words for all of you who scoff at someone running against Obama that would destroy his chances at reelection:

Tim Cahill.

Deval Patrick is the MiniMe to Barack Obama’s Dr. Evil.

(Or should that be Dr. Evil’s Barack Obama?)

turfmann on December 10, 2010 at 9:35 AM

Oh, please, oh, please. oh, please run, Ralphie boy. I’ll even send you money. I just have to sell this used Corvair….

princetrumpet on December 10, 2010 at 9:36 AM

Run, Forest, Run!

Although a Dean run could open up the possibility of another Dean blowout culminating in the “yeaaaarrrrr”

search4truth on December 10, 2010 at 9:37 AM

Make it extremely progressive! Make it more corrupt and more daring! Make it like Mao’s Communist Revolution!

Charles Rangel for President 2012!

VP – Kucinich vs. Sanders!

TheAlamos on December 10, 2010 at 9:39 AM

One word: Hillary.

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on December 10, 2010 at 9:41 AM

Perfect, I may donate to his cause. He will peel enough votes away to ensure a Republican victory. He is like a liberal Perot.

right2bright on December 10, 2010 at 9:42 AM

Actually, he’s a 4-time presidential candidate:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Nader

He’s just trying to break Harold Stassen’s record.

notropis on December 10, 2010 at 9:50 AM

RUN, RALPH, RUN!!!!~

N. O'Brain on December 10, 2010 at 9:51 AM

SWEET. I’m going to need more popcorn.

bitsy on December 10, 2010 at 9:14 AM

My local store is out of popcorn…

tinkerthinker on December 10, 2010 at 10:09 AM

“He’s a con man,” Nader continued. “I have no use for him.”

This must be the end times, I actually agree with Nader. That has to be, what, maybe the 3rd seal being broken?

iurockhead on December 10, 2010 at 10:10 AM

Billy Joel needs to re-record “Angry Young Man,” change the words slightly, and dedicate it to Ralph. He could have been the one that song was written about back in the 70s, and he still fits.

There’s a place in the world for the angry young man
With his working class ties and his radical plans
He refuses to bend, he refuses to crawl,
He’s always at home with his back to the wall.
And he’s proud of his scars and the battles he’s lost,
He struggles and bleeds as he hangs on the cross-
And he likes to be known as the angry young man.

Give a moment or two to the angry young man,
With his foot in his mouth and his heart in his hand.
He’s been stabbed in the back, he’s been misunderstood,
It’s a comfort to know his intentions are good.
He sits in a room with a lock on the door,
With his maps and his medals laid out on the floor
And he likes to be known as the angry young man.

And there’s always a place for the angry young man,
With his fist in the air and his head in the sand.
And he’s never been able to learn from mistakes,
He can’t understand why his heart always breaks.
His honor is pure and his courage as well,
He’s fair and he’s true and he’s boring as hell!
And he’ll go to the grave as an angry old man.

Athanasius on December 10, 2010 at 10:11 AM

It’s funny, when we read the headline

Nader: Obama’s a “con man”

We think, of course, right on, someone finally gets it, he’s a leftist posing as a centrist, while Nader thinks he’s a centrist posing as a leftist. LOL.

Paul-Cincy on December 10, 2010 at 10:12 AM

It took Nader 2 years to figure that out?

It was obvious that he was a street hustler used car salesman before he was even elected.

percysunshine on December 10, 2010 at 8:52 AM

darwin-t on December 10, 2010 at 10:12 AM

What’s above Nirvana?

Jaibones on December 10, 2010 at 9:25 AM

Tool, Smashing Pumpkins and Alice In Chains, in that order.

fusionaddict on December 10, 2010 at 10:13 AM

Look for the media to continue the “Is Obama too conservative?” theme.

It’s all just a ploy to suck in “Independents”.

justltl on December 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM

I am all for an additional candidate on the left.

Slowburn on December 10, 2010 at 10:18 AM

temperamentally conflict-averse

I like this. It’s a nice high-class way to call someone chickensh!t.

CantCureStupid on December 10, 2010 at 10:20 AM

Obama lost the independents in the midterms.
The Dems need to get the independents back to have any chance of getting Obama re-elected.
The model for them is Bill Clinton, with his “Cumback Kid” and his “triangulation” crap.

So they know that they have to paint Barack as something other than Karl Junior.

justltl on December 10, 2010 at 10:22 AM

It took Nader 2 years to figure that out?

percysunshine on December 10, 2010 at 8:52 AM

Obviously you don’t remember this little gem from 2008.

manwithblackhat on December 10, 2010 at 10:28 AM

At this moment, Obama is like a boxer who has taken a solid punch to the head right before the bell.
It’s between rounds now, and he’s stumbling around the ring saying “derrr” while his handlers lead him to his corner.

justltl on December 10, 2010 at 10:31 AM

My advice to him would be “Lead with your head, son.”

justltl on December 10, 2010 at 10:35 AM

Wow – who knew there were so many racists lurking on the left.

Queen0fCups on December 10, 2010 at 10:41 AM

Where is da nub?

OkieDoc on December 10, 2010 at 10:46 AM

it was time for a new progressive leader to step forward.

Alvin Greene 2012!

John Deaux on December 10, 2010 at 10:55 AM

It would be fun to vote for Nader one more time. I would register democrat just to do it if he ran in the primary.

deewhybee on December 10, 2010 at 11:02 AM

“I voted for Nader! I hate everyone!

Every time I hear his name I think of that video. It’s an oldie, but a goodie. (Language content warning on that one though.)

wearyman on December 10, 2010 at 8:58 AM

..marvelous! Now if we could only convince The Golden Pantload’s people to “..go home and m*sturbate” with cousin Pookie on the couch, we’d be in line Flynn.

The War Planner on December 10, 2010 at 11:05 AM

Who would imagine he’s out? Why?

He’ll run until he’s dead.

AnninCA on December 10, 2010 at 11:05 AM

I think this is how he actually makes his living.

AnninCA on December 10, 2010 at 11:06 AM

We think … he’s a leftist posing as a centrist, while Nader thinks he’s a centrist posing as a leftist. LOL.
Paul-Cincy on December 10, 2010 at 10:12 AM

O the irony. During the campaign, people perceived Obama (the slippery chameleon upon whom they projected their hopes and dream) as their political heart’s desire. Now, the veil is lifted and they all can see Obama as the con man he always was.

When it’s too late, once the con is over, it’s obvious to even the dullest knife in the drawer.

marybel on December 10, 2010 at 11:06 AM

Run Ralph run. In fact, a primary challenge which he loses to a more mainstream democratic, followed by a third-party run, would do the most damage. It’s Chicago 1968 all over again!

slickwillie2001 on December 10, 2010 at 11:09 AM

To Nader, every cause is a 1960s vintage Corvair…now it’s Obama, another Corvair stuck in a ditch!

stonemeister on December 10, 2010 at 11:20 AM

Run, Ralph, RUN!

Pass the pop corn.

locomotivebreath1901 on December 10, 2010 at 11:25 AM

Just two years ago, those of us who made these same observations about Obama’s character were called racists.

wright on December 10, 2010 at 11:36 AM

Can he recruit someone with enough credibility to run against a sitting President? Russ Feingold’s looking for work, but Obama did a lot of campaigning for Feingold in a desperate attempt to rescue his job. Howard Dean has insisted he’s not interested. Who’s left? Wes Clark?

Dennis Kucinich has as much credibility as Nader ever had, at least in progressive circles. And if they want somebody who wouldn’t compromise, ever never, he’s the guy.

smellthecoffee on December 10, 2010 at 11:37 AM

Nader’s the con man. He’s just trying to get the Dems to throw him some goodies to keep him from splitting the liberal vote in 2012.

The blood’s in the water, and the sharks are circling.

Socratease on December 10, 2010 at 11:39 AM

Ralph, go have yourself a nice piping hot cup of SHUT THE HELL UP!, and then just go away!

Once and for all, go away!

pilamaye on December 10, 2010 at 11:42 AM

Al Sharpton in white-face makeup, only preying on the “Professional Left?”

(An assist to Gibbsie for the clever catchphrase.)

VastRightWingConspirator on December 10, 2010 at 11:46 AM

Best news in a while. I believe he still has a certain and not inconsiderable appeal to idiot college students (is that an oxymoron?)

rrpjr on December 10, 2010 at 8:59 AM

No, but it is redundant!

belad on December 10, 2010 at 11:51 AM

Best news in a while. I believe he still has a certain and not inconsiderable appeal to idiot college students (is that an oxymoron?)

rrpjr on December 10, 2010 at 8:59 AM

That’s not an oxymoron, it’s a redundancy.

Sekhmet on December 10, 2010 at 11:56 AM

Belad

GMTA

Sekhmet on December 10, 2010 at 11:56 AM

For a man who’s only ‘win’ is a stance against the Corvair, his 15 minutes of fame should’ve ended a LONG time ago.

Sponge on December 10, 2010 at 12:03 PM

Run, Ralph, run! Not as a Dem, but an Indie! Yes you can!

We need to thank Ralph Nader for his invaluable contribution to our nation’s security. Without those 70,000 votes he got in Florida, the American response to the 9/11 attacks would have been led by President Gore.

After all that Gore has said about “global warming”, Nader already did save us from a “con man”. Maybe he can do it again.

Steve Z on December 10, 2010 at 12:06 PM

…Like death and taxes…

juanito on December 10, 2010 at 12:32 PM

He’s just trying to break Harold Stassen’s record.

notropis on December 10, 2010 at 9:50 AM

Hell, he hasn’t even broken Pat Paulsen’s record yet. Pat ran 6 times (1968, 1972, 1980, 1988, 1992, and 1996).

Del Dolemonte on December 10, 2010 at 12:42 PM

He went from “messiah” to buffoon, and none other than Nader nailed what he really was, is, and always will be.

Schadenfreude on December 10, 2010 at 12:52 PM

Can he just run in Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania?

angryed on December 10, 2010 at 12:52 PM

I think Nader runs for POTUS so he can go on vacations by using that campaign money.
He cannot seriously think he’s got a chance.
Although at this stage, I’d take Nader any day over BO.

Badger40 on December 10, 2010 at 2:43 PM