House Democrats strip funding for Gitmo civilian trials in retaliation for tax deal

posted at 9:30 am on December 10, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Anger among Democrats over Barack Obama’s tax deal continues to percolate unabated, and now even some of the leadership has taken it public.  Rep. Jim Moran (D-VA) holds a couple of key committee assignments and chairs the Subcommittee on Interior, Environment, and Related Agencies for Appropriations, and took the most public shot at Obama in an interview yesterday.  The Appropriations committee also hit Obama where it hurt on one of his key policy goals as well:

In a striking move, the appropriations committee late Wednesday attached a provision to a $1.1 trillion resolution to keep the government funded next year that would prevent Obama from spending any funds to try terrorism suspects in civilian court instead of military commissions.

The language would essentially prevent the closing of the detainee prison at Guantanamo Bay.

Some House Democrats viewed the move as an act of defiance and a direct demonstration of just how furious the caucus is with Obama’s decision to work with Republicans to extend the Bush-era tax cuts.

Moran claimed not to know of the provision that gives Republicans a head start on blocking the closing of Gitmo — and it’s not the only thing of which Moran disclaimed knowledge.  The Hill interviewed Moran about his take on the tax deal, prompting this profane response:

“This is a lack of leadership on the part of Obama,” fumed Moran (D-Va.) “I don’t know where the f*** Obama is on this or anything else. They’re AWOL.”

The administration had previously succeeded in keeping the House from tying its hands on Gitmo and civilian trials for foreign-captured terrorists, but apparently the anger over what progressives see as betrayal overcame their own desire to see Gitmo closed.  Either that, or it’s a slap at progressives from the moderates for pitching such a fit over what will be a fairly routine process of compromise in the next session of Congress; that seems a little more likely, although either is possible.   The action put progressive Democrats in the general caucus in a panic when they realized that it was embedded in continuing resolution and is headed for a floor vote.  Republicans were stunned at what they called a “180-degree turn” from Democrats on Gitmo.

Eric Holder called it an unacceptable encroachment on executive jurisdiction, but that’s entirely incorrect.  Congress has the power of the purse to check executive power, and in this case Congress has a point.  The legislature has on three occasions set up military commissions to deal with inmates at Gitmo, but this administration has defiantly chosen to use federal courts instead — and largely botched the effort.  If the lame duck Congress didn’t take this step, the incoming Republican House certainly would have done so.  And now they have a nice precedent on which to rely to make the case that Congress’ policy is bipartisan.

The wheels appear to be coming off of the Obama White House, thanks in large part to the political immaturity of the President — whose own reaction helped fuel this rebellion — and his progressive base.


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FIERCE MORAL URGENCY!

Now give us what we want or we will play politics with that morality.

Bishop on December 10, 2010 at 9:32 AM

This is delicious!!! I want more mommy.: )

marktarheel on December 10, 2010 at 9:33 AM

More popcorn please!

cmsinaz on December 10, 2010 at 9:33 AM

The language would essentially prevent the closing of the detainee prison at Guantanamo Bay.

“See? I didn’t need that nose after all! Ha!” – dems

Vashta.Nerada on December 10, 2010 at 9:34 AM

All this because the Republicans want the tax rates to remain unchanged … no tax cut for the “evil rich”, just remain unchanged.

darwin on December 10, 2010 at 9:34 AM

Bubba couldn’t visit dear leader.any sooner….heh

cmsinaz on December 10, 2010 at 9:36 AM

I love the smell of napalm in the morning.

SHARPTOOTH on December 10, 2010 at 9:36 AM

wait wait wait…..did I read the words: “Dems” and “strip funding” in the same sentence?????? Can’t be.

search4truth on December 10, 2010 at 9:38 AM

These jackass radical Democrats will be neutered on Jan 1 and most damage they cause can be reversed. In the meantime, just stand back and try to dodge the buckets of $ . . t they’re throwing at everyone in sight.

rplat on December 10, 2010 at 9:39 AM

Um, yay?!

But man, these Fascist-Democrats are acting just like the spoiled brats over in Europe.

rbj on December 10, 2010 at 9:39 AM

Time to bring this up….
How’s that Hope and Changey thing working for ya!

right2bright on December 10, 2010 at 9:40 AM

Nice to know we won’t be missing Alan Grayson. The democrats are loaded with loons.

jake-the-goose on December 10, 2010 at 9:40 AM

ED– Jim Moran (D-VA) First Paragraph

joe99jpn on December 10, 2010 at 9:41 AM

RACISTS!

Mr. Bingley on December 10, 2010 at 9:42 AM

The meltdown continues
Pass that popcorn over here.

kingsjester on December 10, 2010 at 9:43 AM

Doesn’t this just reinforce the beliefs that it was the Democrats who refused to work with anyone?

Cindy Munford on December 10, 2010 at 9:44 AM

and his progressive base.

That’s “hard-left” base, in real english.

DaydreamBeliever on December 10, 2010 at 9:44 AM

So the Progs punish each by doing conservative things in congress?

“Excellent!” (in my best Mr Burn’s voice)

Hening on December 10, 2010 at 9:46 AM

I think those Jay Leno skits are about to happen in real time.

katy the mean old lady on December 10, 2010 at 9:46 AM

There’s a whole lot of F’ing going on, in my heart
It’s a feeling, im feeling through and through
There’s a whole lot of dissing every time we’re apart
There’s a whole lot of F’ing just for you

scrubjay on December 10, 2010 at 9:46 AM

Cheney must be laughing at all the F-bombs coming out of the Dems lately. I believe the former VP was an early adopter.

Fallon on December 10, 2010 at 9:46 AM

Eric Holder called it an unacceptable encroachment on executive jurisdiction

WTF. Holder doesn’t know what he’s talking about any other time. What’s different now?

Mr. Grump on December 10, 2010 at 9:47 AM

I can hear Barry screaming from my house.

katy the mean old lady on December 10, 2010 at 9:48 AM

Good piece kj….

cmsinaz on December 10, 2010 at 9:49 AM

Spot on Cindy

cmsinaz on December 10, 2010 at 9:50 AM

Krauthammer’s take on the tax deal is interesting, if somewhat depressing.

Barack Obama won the great tax-cut showdown of 2010 – and House Democrats don’t have a clue that he did.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/09/AR2010120904472.html

mbs on December 10, 2010 at 9:50 AM

Amazing… going against Obama means, for the Democrats, doing something… right?

princetrumpet on December 10, 2010 at 9:51 AM

The language would essentially prevent the closing of the detainee prison at Guantanamo Bay.

Okay, sounds good. You guys were the ones who insisted on closing it anyway.

Missy on December 10, 2010 at 9:51 AM

Finally, they do something right… for the wrong reason of course.

Maybe if Barry gets them really mad they’ll order the executions of all Gitmo terrorists.

Win-Win.

profitsbeard on December 10, 2010 at 9:51 AM

Funny. There is nothing better than these idiots infighting.
Merry Christmas conservatives!

ORconservative on December 10, 2010 at 9:52 AM

Eric Holder called it an unacceptable encroachment on executive jurisdiction

Has this a$$ clown ever, you know, READ the freaking Constitution?

MJBrutus on December 10, 2010 at 9:52 AM

mbs on December 10, 2010 at 9:50 AM

I love CK, but I don’t agree with him on this. I would buy it only if I thought that PBHO actually wanted to moderate and was going to change course. Instead, I don’t see this as any brilliant stratagem, I see it as stark incompetence.

MJBrutus on December 10, 2010 at 9:54 AM

Rumor is that Obama is meeting with Bill Clinton today…Bill is back in town, and back in the drivers seat.
This is what could save Obama….
Michelle “gets” cancer, Obama resigns to take care of family, Michelle miraculously gets cured…but Hillary has to be the VP for that to happen.

right2bright on December 10, 2010 at 9:54 AM

Dems… they’re so fun to watch. Why, it seems that only yesterday that they were doing the chicken dance for The Obama.

Key West Reader on December 10, 2010 at 9:55 AM

Off Topic but…….we saw the new Narnia movie last night and we really enjoyed it.

Progressives be warned though it is a good story there is a deity type figure in the movie.

PappyD61 on December 10, 2010 at 9:56 AM

What happened to the Democrats’ much-vaunted spirit of compromise that they’re so well-known for?

I was told by the media that compromise is the essence of democracy.

Good Lt on December 10, 2010 at 9:56 AM

Turns out there sure are a lot of racists in that there Democratic Party.

NickelAndDime on December 10, 2010 at 9:57 AM

What a clusterfark our government has become. They’re totally out of control it seems no one knows what they’re doing on these bills. None of them seem to get it. It wasn’t just the spending voters were unhappy with, it was the partisanship. Now they tried to come up with a bipartisan bill and the dems are proving that to be impossible by throwing hissy fit tantrums and playing childish games to get even. It’s truly disgusting.

scalleywag on December 10, 2010 at 9:58 AM

I can hear Barry screaming from my house.

katy the mean old lady on December 10, 2010 at 9:48 AM

Thread winner.

Key West Reader on December 10, 2010 at 9:58 AM

What happened to the Democrats’ much-vaunted spirit of compromise that they’re so well-known for?

I was told by the media that compromise is the essence of democracy.

Good Lt on December 10, 2010 at 9:56 AM

From the Democrat Dictionary:

compromise; a noun, which can be used as a verb, meaning:

“I get what I want.”
“You get what I give you.”

They really don’t know how to do this, do they?

massrighty on December 10, 2010 at 10:02 AM

So this week we’ve learned Democrats will be running on a platform of higher taxes and leniency toward terrorists in 2012. Sounds like winning strategery to me.

JammieWearingFool on December 10, 2010 at 10:05 AM

Throw another log on the fire, pop some more corn, enjoy the show…

Midas on December 10, 2010 at 10:05 AM

Wow, if the progressive Democratic caucus gets any madder, they might really, really, really hurt Obama by passing a flat tax, overriding the Gulf drilling moratorium, funding tougher immigration laws, banning the use of federal funds for abortions in other countries…

jon1979 on December 10, 2010 at 10:07 AM

JammieWearingFool – don’t forget to include a willingness to let unemployment compensation expire at Christmas time.

(they’d have done the same for us, to be sure, lol)

Midas on December 10, 2010 at 10:07 AM

Playing chicken with President Narcissist. Back this guy into a corner and who knows how he blows.

FireBlogger on December 10, 2010 at 10:08 AM

Wow, what a bunch of Little Eichmanns.

Del Dolemonte on December 10, 2010 at 10:11 AM

READY
FIRE!
AIM

Guess they’re having trouble getting to stage 5 in the grieving process.

jjshaka on December 10, 2010 at 10:11 AM

Party of No! Best part is Obama’s conceding the high ground to conservatives on Keynesian fiscal policy and that can be highlighted in 2012. Downside is, I think Krauthammer is mostly right. Ethanol, for Cripes sake?

a capella on December 10, 2010 at 10:12 AM

Ooo – that’ll show him! Maybe the Dems will continue fighting long enough to roll back decades of government expansion and intrusion.

Or maybe they’ll just stomp their feet and suck their thumbs.

hawksruleva on December 10, 2010 at 10:12 AM

The Eye of Sauron on the tower of Barad-Dûr has gone dark.

Electrongod on December 10, 2010 at 10:12 AM

Moran (D-Va.): “I don’t know where the f*** Obama is on this or anything else.”

Stay classy there, dude. He takes his cues on maintaining the dignity of his office from Obummer, apparently.

KS Rex on December 10, 2010 at 10:13 AM

Although they yanked funding for the civilian trials, Fox & Friends reported that there’s a lot of stealth funding for Obamacare.

Anyone discussing this?

BuckeyeSam on December 10, 2010 at 10:15 AM

My, Progressives really like to use the “f” word when they throw their tantrums. These were the same folks that feigned outrage when Cheney used the word a few years ago….

yogi41 on December 10, 2010 at 10:15 AM

WOW! The fog just lifted and now I can see Gitmo from my house.

Rovin on December 10, 2010 at 10:16 AM

Hostage takers!

CurtZHP on December 10, 2010 at 10:19 AM

The Progressives drove the Democrats off the cliff in November, all they are doing now is clubbing any of the crippled survivors.

Please Nancy don’t bring the status quo bill to the floor – status quo for extending current tax rates,and status quo for extending unemployment benefits.

The Democrats will get all the “credit” aka blame for bombing the economy when it’s weak and leaving unemployed Americans in the lurch at Christmas, per not extending unemployment benefits.

The Progressive’s over reaching – power grabbing has come to an END. All the Republicans have to do is hold firm. Recess come back in January, pass the status quo, be the Hero’s that clean up after the Spiteful Progressive caucus. Way to improve the BRAND Progressives after one of the biggest political party wipe-outs in American History.

They ALL NEED TO GO AWAY.

The President can sign an order that keeps the tax rates exactly as they are until the Republicans introduce their Bill in January.

This is a lot of unnecessary Drama. What is the point of all the Progressive tantrums? To deflect all the anger coming from their base. It’s all over but the crying.

President Barack H Obama “Elections have Consequences”

Why yes they do, and I am not impressed at all with the Progressive’s pulling their hair, and renting their clothes.

All the pretentious posturing is why they have been banished to the minority in the first place – translation: THEY SUX.

Dr Evil on December 10, 2010 at 10:25 AM

“This is a lack of leadership on the part of Obama,” fumed Moran (D-Va.) “I don’t know where the f*** Obama is on this or anything else. They’re AWOL.”

What a cluster f#$k!!!!

The “adults” in charge are so inept that Obama is having to call Bill Clinton in to straighten things out.

We have major international issues going on with Iraq,Afghanistan,Iran,and N. Korea….

………..our economy is flat-lining at best and rests on a platform of stagnation and uncertainty.

So what do we get from the supposed “leadership” on the Hill…
……an a$$clown circus with a bunch of idiots pitching hissy fits and pissing on each other’s legs.

To he!! with the popcorn…..break out the shots of Jack.

Baxter Greene on December 10, 2010 at 10:25 AM

It’s a good job that none of them are named Carrie.

OldEnglish on December 10, 2010 at 10:26 AM

Don’t worry…obummer is just looking for whose ass to kick next

lukespapa on December 10, 2010 at 10:31 AM

I’m glad Obama is failing.

csdeven on December 10, 2010 at 10:41 AM

The wheels appear to be coming off of the Obama White House, thanks in large part to the political immaturity of the President — whose own reaction helped fuel this rebellion — and his progressive base.

There was no more room under the bus.

tinkerthinker on December 10, 2010 at 10:42 AM

Is it April 1st today????

No, it isn’t … is it?

percysunshine on December 10, 2010 at 10:44 AM

Don’t worry…obummer is just looking for whose ass to kick next

lukespapa on December 10, 2010 at 10:31 AM

Looks like he’s kicking his own a$$. I guess BigChelle can rest her beastyfeet for the next two years.

Key West Reader on December 10, 2010 at 10:45 AM

I will know the Democrat Congressional members are serious when they start resigning from office…
As in “So that Obama no longer has any further Democratic support in Congress I hereby resign my office…”
:)

albill on December 10, 2010 at 10:50 AM

Socialist implosion.

Now the GOP needs to step back and just watch it happen. They need to vote HELL NO! on any bill the socialists come up with. Unless it only has the two key pieces previously agreed upon and NOTHING ELSE.

Get a SPINE GOP! Stand.

dogsoldier on December 10, 2010 at 10:51 AM

Clean up on aisle stupid!

Branch Rickey on December 10, 2010 at 10:58 AM

dogsoldier

I agree with you but I am afraid it isn’t going to happen, this tax deal is getting so many add-ons it will probably add another trillion to our deficit.
If it isn’t the deal they agreed to with Obama then they should filibuster it and wait for JAN.
GOP is being played big time and they are to stupid to realize it.

concernedsenior on December 10, 2010 at 11:01 AM

MORE popcorn!

GarandFan on December 10, 2010 at 11:01 AM

QUICK !! We need MORE ‘deals’ that’ll pi** them off !!
What a circus, and I’m loving every bit of it !!

pambi on December 10, 2010 at 11:19 AM

Socialist implosion.
dogsoldier on December 10, 2010 at 10:51 AM

I love this.

I’m giddy – GIDDY, I tell ya’!

Dopenstrange on December 10, 2010 at 11:21 AM

This is about hating a black man in the White House. This is racism, straight up.

BKeyser on December 10, 2010 at 11:25 AM

House Democrats strip funding for Gitmo civilian trials in retaliation for tax deal

The next temper tantrum.

rukiddingme on December 10, 2010 at 11:32 AM

Admitting the fact that prosecuting the islamoscum in our courts costs money…

They love for things to cost money especially when it effs things up

the military should see how many tribunals they can get in NOW

let’s clean out gitmo the proper way

Sonosam on December 10, 2010 at 11:33 AM

Is there a time-out corner in the house chamber?

Please children, behave yourselves.

fogw on December 10, 2010 at 11:37 AM

Wow! The Repubs are sitting back telling the Dims “please don’t throw us in to that briar patch.” So in retaliation the Dim geniuses hand the repubs what they have wanted for two years on a silver platter. Aw common guys. Punish us some more.

Old Country Boy on December 10, 2010 at 11:38 AM

You just keep arguing for higher taxes, Dems. Pay for your pet projects and bulls#!t on the backs of the taxpayer and see how it works out for you. Really. I hope you get what you want and the rebellion starts by handing you your ‘free ticket to unemployment’ in 2012.

Sponge on December 10, 2010 at 11:43 AM

Eric Holder called it an unacceptable encroachment on executive jurisdiction, but that’s entirely incorrect.

What a dope. Remember Vietnam? I guess that’s what happens when you get all of your history from Howard Zinn.

smellthecoffee on December 10, 2010 at 11:47 AM

This isn’t just collateral Blue-on-Blue damage, this is different shades of Blue hunting each other down in straight hand to hand combat. I hate when that happens…”Honey, can I have another frosty pop and just sit here the rest of the day and watch?”

yakyak on December 10, 2010 at 11:51 AM

“Anybody seen the script?”

“I mean it was here just a couple weeks ago.”

“C’mon, a little help here would be appreciated.”

“How we gonna stay on track if we don’t have the script?”

“Barrack, whadya do with the script? Axelrod said he gave it to you last October.”

“Maybe Rahm took it with him?”

“Ask Holder, maybe he has it.”

“Holder? He wouldn’t know a script if it bit him in the ass. Always gong out on his own…”

“Does Michelle have it?”

“Now why would she have it?”

“She likes to read a good fiction now and then.”

“Maybe Biden has it?”

“Nope, He’s not cleared for it. Chicagoland access only, remember?”

“Fer chrissakes, where is the effin’ script???”

And this sort of dialogue echoed through the West Wing and over at the EOB right up until the failed election of 2012….

For there was no joy in Progressiveville, the mighty Obama had struck out lost the damn script.

coldwarrior on December 10, 2010 at 11:55 AM

Shocking!!

LibTard Democrats throwing a hissy fit.

Whoda thunk it???

BigWyo on December 10, 2010 at 12:47 PM

This isn’t just collateral Blue-on-Blue damage, this is different shades of Blue hunting each other down in straight hand to hand combat. I hate when that happens…”Honey, can I have another frosty pop and just sit here the rest of the day and watch?”

yakyak on December 10, 2010 at 11:51 AM

Maybe we should send them fish bonkers.

katy the mean old lady on December 10, 2010 at 12:57 PM

The wheels appear to be coming off of the Obama White House, thanks in large part to the political immaturity of the President — whose own reaction helped fuel this rebellion — and his progressive base.

Slurpees all around!

hillbillyjim on December 10, 2010 at 2:29 PM

.. willingness to let unemployment compensation expire at Christmas time.

Waitaminit — aren’t these the same folks who, in every other argument, are trying so hard to kill Christmas ?? Hypocrits.

/.

CaveatEmpty on December 10, 2010 at 4:38 PM