Audio: Dem Rep says Obama should “create a real crisis” to hike taxes on wealthy
posted at 2:55 pm on December 10, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
That’s not the only piece of hilarity from Minnesota’s Keith Ellison, the Democrat who recently won more than 70% of the vote in his House re-election. Ellison suddenly discovered his inner Milton Friedman in wondering how much the tax deal cut by Barack Obama with Republicans would cost per job created, saying that the reduction in the estate tax would “give away trillions of dollars” over the next ten years. What Obama really needs to do, Ellison advised Minnesota Public Radio, was to “create a real crisis” that would force the GOP to surrender on tax hikes for those making $200,000 a year or more (via Weekly Political Review and Rhymes with Right):
Ellison, who was recently elected co-chair of the Progressive caucus in the House, voted against the compromise.
“I think that we need to create a real crisis here so that the Republicans will have to answer for denying Americans unemployment benefits on the eve of the Christmas holiday,” Ellison said. “We let them off the hook, in my opinion.”
Ellison said Democrats should have negotiated more aggressively to protect the interests of middle class and low income Americans, but he defended Obama’s effort to reach a compromise.
“I think (Republican lawmakers) exploited the president’s compassion for people who are facing a very grim holiday with no unemployment insurance extension,” Ellison said, “but I think that we should have bargained harder because what we’re doing is we’re going to fundamentally shift the income spread in this country.”
First, the reduction of the estate tax won’t “give away” trillions of dollars in the next ten years. It doesn’t “give away” anything at all. It allows families to keep a little more of the wealth that has already passed through at least one round of taxation already, either when it was earned or when it was inherited previously. The actual dollar impact in the difference between the rates before and after the deal won’t amount to trillions in any case.
However, the need to now produce a cost-benefit ratio seems rather sudden for Ellison. He backed the Porkulus plan that spent $800 billion on stimulus, which according to the White House’s ridiculously inflated calculations “saved or created” 3.5 million jobs, for a cost per job of … $228,571.42 per job. Other estimates range between 2 million and, er, zero, according to the Fed, and the best-case scenario is that it cost $400,000 per job in a short-term reprieve for bureaucrats.
As far as the “crisis” goes, Ellison is recommending that Obama do what Obama accused Republicans of doing: holding the unemployed and working class hostage to force an end to unemployment benefits and across-the-board tax hikes. That way, Ellison figures, voters will blame the side that offered a deal that a majority support. Only in Minnesota’s 5th CD would that kind of logic and political strategy be rewarded with a federal office.









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Can we stop sharing with these people yet? Our country, I mean?
IronDioPriest on December 10, 2010 at 2:58 PM
Minnesota is a conundrum.
percysunshine on December 10, 2010 at 2:58 PM
Reminder, this is none other than Keith “X.” Ellsion, “former” Nation of Islam stooge.
CTD on December 10, 2010 at 3:01 PM
Why don’t you move down here with me to Chicago, Ed and get away from those crazy politicians you keep electing?
Knucklehead on December 10, 2010 at 3:02 PM
This is quite revealing of Democrats. Generally, one would think that crises occur, by happenstance, neglect, accident or by some other reason. They probably shouldn’t be created, per se. It’s incredibly dishonest and manipulative to create a crisis as a means to exploit the consequences that result. That is akin to kicking and screaming by a child in order to have the mother give the kid a piece of candy to shut him up.
ted c on December 10, 2010 at 3:02 PM
Jackass.
crazy_legs on December 10, 2010 at 3:04 PM
Oh we created a real crisis Mr. Ellison when the standards for good governance were lowered to include the likes of you and Obama. What we need are some skilled crisis management leaders.
fourdeucer on December 10, 2010 at 3:05 PM
He’s got the Malcolm X scowl down to an art.
Ted Torgerson on December 10, 2010 at 3:06 PM
I am soooo glad I moved out of this jerk’s district (and state) before he got elected.
Missy on December 10, 2010 at 3:06 PM
As I understand it, the changes in the estate tax will “cost” (yeah, I know) about $55 billion over the next two years in lower revenue. Or about $27 billion each year.
For it to add up to the “trillions” that Ellison states, would take about 40 years. Not 10.
SteveMG on December 10, 2010 at 3:06 PM
Yet Glenn Beck is the crazy one for pointing that the Left wants to do this.
rbj on December 10, 2010 at 3:07 PM
CRISIS!
aquaviva on December 10, 2010 at 3:08 PM
Doncha think you’ve already created a real crisis here, Mr. Ellison?
Kissmygrits on December 10, 2010 at 3:08 PM
He sounds like a freaking terrorist.
Eren on December 10, 2010 at 3:09 PM
These people should be rounded up. All of em.
Isn’t there some deserted Caribbean island we could send progressives to? Some inescapable Caribbean island?
They could build their little Utopia there, free to run as they wish, while productive members of society go about their business.
gary4205 on December 10, 2010 at 3:09 PM
“… that the reduction in the estate tax would ‘give away trillions of dollars’ over the next ten years”
There is no Estate Tax right now, so it’s not being reduced. Absent any legislation it would kick in again at the 2001 rate on Jan. 1, 2011 — but the current tax deal reduces that 2001 rate (from 55% to 35%).
Either way, there can’t be any “give away” of something that the government isn’t getting now. I mean, it’s not like my boss rejecting my demand for $25,000/yr. more in salary actually “cost” me $250,000 over the next decade is it?
MichaelW on December 10, 2010 at 3:11 PM
Many Nation of Islam disciples do.
gary4205 on December 10, 2010 at 3:12 PM
They could build their little Utopia there, free to run as they wish, while productive members of society go about their business.
gary4205 on December 10, 2010 at 3:09 PM
yeah. It’s called Cuba…
SHARPTOOTH on December 10, 2010 at 3:13 PM
How about Haiti? My recommendation is to relocate the UN there as well. Islands are good because we can easily quarantine them.
Cody1991 on December 10, 2010 at 3:16 PM
I love it when a Muslim gets all weepy about Christmas.
Emperor Norton on December 10, 2010 at 3:16 PM
Democrat: It’s our money and if we have to give people some it costs us trillions!!!!!
darwin on December 10, 2010 at 3:17 PM
Last time I checked, the southern half of Montserrat is available.
teke184 on December 10, 2010 at 3:18 PM
Emperor Norton@3:16,
That was good!
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letget on December 10, 2010 at 3:18 PM
Mentioning to create a crisis and Christmas Holiday in the same breath kind of offends me. This coming from Keith Ellison, a muslim. I mean we’re all infadels, it says so in the Quran, right Keith Ellison.
USMCDevilDog on December 10, 2010 at 3:18 PM
The left would absolutely nuts if a Republican ever said something like that. For democrats though … it’s standard fair.
darwin on December 10, 2010 at 3:19 PM
No way am I going to be the first one to relate his religion and crisis “creation.”
TexasDan on December 10, 2010 at 3:19 PM
it’s standard
fair.faredarwin on December 10, 2010 at 3:20 PM
Check with France.Devil’s Island could be available.
katy the mean old lady on December 10, 2010 at 3:20 PM
Go on a hadj and font come back
Sonosam on December 10, 2010 at 3:22 PM
How about a crisis that leads us to a minimum income tax of 1-2% on the lowest income bracket, so that 47% of workers no longer get off scot-free on taxes? How can our nation survive with that many freeloaders? What happened to Bammie’s “skin in the game”?
slickwillie2001 on December 10, 2010 at 3:24 PM
YAY!! That’s my congressman.
Send more Somalis!!
BigWyo on December 10, 2010 at 3:26 PM
Minnesota strikes again, no one does crazy quite like us.
Drive through the 5th sometime and you will understand, people there still display “Wellstone!” signs year-round.
Bishop on December 10, 2010 at 3:29 PM
Just think of it as Jizya, and what Ellison demands begins to make sense.
LegendHasIt on December 10, 2010 at 3:31 PM
“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.”
-H. L. Mencken
iurockhead on December 10, 2010 at 3:32 PM
Hey, I drive by a car every day on the way to work that has a ‘Kerry/Edwards’ sticker on it.
Figure that one out.
BigWyo on December 10, 2010 at 3:34 PM
If they create a crisis can we then have them jailed?
tinkerthinker on December 10, 2010 at 3:35 PM
The color of the skin will determine the amount of ‘skin in the game’.
maryo on December 10, 2010 at 3:35 PM
Minnesota is a
conundrum
percysunshine on December 10, 2010 at 2:58 PM
For pecke.heads like this tool!
dhunter on December 10, 2010 at 3:36 PM
What do you mean former? Is he an apostate?
Oldnuke on December 10, 2010 at 3:36 PM
“Crisis” translated from the Arabic must mean “peace.” I think I get it now. In mooslem terms, having any type of crisis feels so right, ergo it’s called the religion of peace.
Western_Civ on December 10, 2010 at 3:37 PM
OOPPS
Minnesota is a
conundrumCONDOM.percysunshine on December 10, 2010 at 2:58 PM
For pecke.heads like this tool.
Preview is not my friend
dhunter on December 10, 2010 at 3:37 PM
My in-laws lived in Minnesota their entire lives. They voted for every weirdo that came along. I have no doubt that they would vote for Jihadist Ellison if they had the chance. I think the bitter cold of Minnesota winters does something to the brain.
maryo on December 10, 2010 at 3:38 PM
>gary4205 on December 10, 2010 at 3:09 PM
There is Navassa Island not too far south of Cuba where the only inhabitants are wild goats and sea gulls. Perfect place for the cretins. (With apologies to cretins)
Lew_Lew on December 10, 2010 at 3:38 PM
Hmmm….
Keith Ellison: Muslim Socialist.
Baath Party: Muslim Socialists.
I’m just saying…
Akzed on December 10, 2010 at 3:38 PM
Keith Elison,yawn.
DDT on December 10, 2010 at 3:41 PM
Kudos for Keith for cutting to the chase ( albiet confirming his insanity).
Bernie Sanders is going on 6 hours in the Senate trying to say the same basic thing.
jjshaka on December 10, 2010 at 3:42 PM
Let’s see if he can break Strom Thurmond’s record.
Oldnuke on December 10, 2010 at 3:48 PM
It’s good to know that he CAIRs so much about us working folk.
MJBrutus on December 10, 2010 at 3:49 PM
OT: The lame-duck Congress is fast-tracking another omnibus federal land-grab deal that threatens our national security, esp. as it affacts our southern border.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/255064/lame-duck-lands-bill-threatens-border-security-dana-joel-gattuso#more
onlineanalyst on December 10, 2010 at 4:07 PM
Keeps the bumper from falling off.
Mr. D on December 10, 2010 at 4:09 PM
CENSURE AND REMOVE.
MadisonConservative on December 10, 2010 at 4:17 PM
I’m guessing that the MN-5th district is populated with the same retarded voters that infect the IL-2nd CD that Jesse Jackson, Jr. currently pollutes.
Jaibones on December 10, 2010 at 4:18 PM
To which group is he the greatest diversity asset?
Guilt sick whitetards or Islam?
BL@KBIRD on December 10, 2010 at 4:18 PM
One can argue about that real estate crisis was result of many financial regulation failure, but that condition could have gone for years. What really happened democrats created that crisis if you remember with the run on Indymac, which started after a certain democrat wrote a letter which was made public, afetr that they would not shut up about economy being total failure, until it really collapsed. Cause financial markets are built on confidence, erode that confidence (can be doen quickly when media is in your pocket) and it crashes, ironically, human phsychology is such, that to build new confidence takes a long time, and even teh Won, could not cheer it up, as well as make the oceans to subside and such.
anikol on December 10, 2010 at 4:20 PM
And it’s already appropriately named!
oldleprechaun on December 10, 2010 at 4:20 PM
Um, the Reps were ready to extend unemployment benefits, Keith – it’s the Dems who are threatening to endanger that “on the eve of the Christmas holiday”.
Midas on December 10, 2010 at 4:33 PM
You have got to be sh#tting me.
BallisticBob on December 10, 2010 at 4:51 PM
CENSURE AND REMOVE.
MadisonConservative on December 10, 2010 at 4:17 PM
Shay on December 10, 2010 at 4:51 PM
But won’t it tip over with all those extra buildings and people? /s
College Prof on December 10, 2010 at 4:55 PM
Actually, because assets get a step up in basis to market value at the time of death, it is possible for capital gains that were never taxed to be passed along to one’s heirs. This argues that some form of the estate tax would be reasonable to capture the taxes on those gains.
Not necessarily the estate tax that we have…
Bill Roper on December 10, 2010 at 5:26 PM
Chuckie Schumer I believe, and I wonder if that was ever investigated for evidence of insider trading…
slickwillie2001 on December 10, 2010 at 5:26 PM
Screw these stupid leftists. I think the Republicans should wait until the new congress is seated and then pass the tax package, including ending the death tax , just make it retroactive.
Dollayo on December 10, 2010 at 5:53 PM
No shit? Mine too!
Makes a fellow proud to live in CD5, eh?
How ’bout a beer after Snowmaggedon?
Bruno Strozek on December 10, 2010 at 8:26 PM
He is an evil man. No muslim is not evil, not to mention a dem. He is evil on two non-contestible points.
proconstitution on December 12, 2010 at 9:54 PM