Report: Palin planning first extended overseas trip

posted at 2:57 pm on December 9, 2010 by Allahpundit

It’s not just the fact of the trip itself that suggests she’s running, it’s the destinations on her proposed itinerary. If you were an aspiring Republican nominee, which foreign hotspots would you be sure to hit to further ingratiate yourself with the base? For starters: Israel, of course, not only to show solidarity but to counter Huckabee’s appeal to evangelicals. He’s been to the Holy Land more than a dozen times and has plans to go again soon. Beyond Israel, where else? Well, to draw a contrast with Obama, you’d naturally choose an ally with whom relations have deteriorated under Hopenchange, signaling that as president you’d restore American prestige by repairing vital relationships. Which means Britain.

Palin’s suggested stops thus far: Israel and Britain.

The Daily Beast has learned that Sarah Palin will be traveling overseas in the new year. At the top of the list: Israel and England, both countries she has said she wanted to travel to in the past. The schedule and itinerary is still fluid, but an overseas trip in 2011 will boost her foreign policy credentials, something she can turn to in a potential 2012 presidential run.

Up to now Palin’s travel outside of North America includes visiting troops in Germany and Kuwait while she was governor and last year she gave a speech on the economy in Hong Kong. During the 2008 campaign, there was some confusion about whether she had also visited Iraq when traveling to see soldiers in Kuwait, but that turned out to be a visit to the border. McCain staffers at the time also said she had visited Ireland, but that was a re-fueling stopover…

The former Alaska governor was criticized in 2008 for her limited global travel, but this first foreign trip post-governorship would burnish her foreign policy credentials and would certainly be accompanied by a media frenzy as both the Israeli and English press follow her closely.

The goal, plainly, is to deny SNL et al. any more dopey “I can see Russia from my house” attacks on her alleged parochialism. Not that this will stop them, but it’ll hopefully make them less credible. As for the foreign press, they’ll be baiting her every step of the way to attack Obama. Will the “politics stops at the water’s edge” rule be in effect, or is that already long gone?

Other destinations to come, no doubt: Iraq and/or Afghanistan in order to greet the troops, and then…? If it’s a purely base-pleasing tour, figure a stop in Japan and/or South Korea to show support for the anti-Pyongyang alliance. If it’s something broader, aimed at getting the attention of centrists and independents for the general election, then … where? Germany, maybe? That’s bailout HQ these days, and a photo op with the most powerful woman in the world would be good campaign fodder. Where else?

Update: Palin advisor Rebecca Mansour doesn’t quite claim that the Daily Beast is making things up, but…

@shushwalshe how do you claim “exclusive” knowledge of anything when you’ve got nothing but conjecture? You call this journalism?


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From what I remember reading about this a while back, there is a peculiar situation with the laws.

Legislators have a protection, that you can’t go public with an ethics complaint against a legislator, or the complaint is automatically thrown out.

The Executive Branch section also says you can’t go public with an ethics complaint before the Board has investigated and ruled on it, but there is no penalty for doing it.

So, every complaint that was filed was a headline in the ADN the next day, because the complaint filer sent them a press release right after they filed it, and the story ran the next day. Every time, no penalty.

By the time the Board ruled one complaint as baseless and threw it out, there were two more pending and in the papers.

Brian1972 on December 9, 2010 at 5:59 PM

That’s exactly what happened.

In fact, towards the end, either Shannyn Moore or Jeanne Devon (AK Muckraker at Mudflats)would have a story in the Huffington Post about a new ethics complaint against Palin before the damned thing was even filed!

Of course, with HuffPoo being such a credible news source, literally every publication on earth would be reporting the story like it was the gospel.

The idea besides bankrupting her was to leave the impression she was corrupt. Hell, the link to the Fairbanks paper I just posted is STILL trying to pull that off.

It’s an old Alinsky trick. Take a reformer and make them look corrupt so the reformer can no longer reform, or call themselves a reformer.

What the left, and our pathetic trolls can’t figure out is how she Alinskyed them instead.

gary4205 on December 9, 2010 at 8:28 PM

So how is it that your boy Mitt passes the test and Sarah Palin doesn’t?

Jenfidel on December 9, 2010 at 7:43 PM

Unlike Palin, other politicians aren’t making extended trips around the world for the sake of improving their credibility and appear more Presidential.

You don’t go on a trip and say “look at me…I’m learning how to be President!” You go quietly with out fanfare.

Its like a little girl who wants to be noticed that she’s finally taking her training wheels off and learning how to ride a bike like a big girl.

This makes no sense. What experience is she going to gain between 2012 and 2016 (or 2020) that she CANNOT gain before 2012? Oh, and you do know that she has about twenty years of executive experience in Alaska, right? Also, who has the experience that Sarah Palin lacks, and what does this experience consist of?

Aitch748 on December 9, 2010 at 7:53 PM

No, it makes perfect sense.

If she’s going around making a big show about all the experience she’s getting from reading books, talking to people, making trips just so that she can build up her credibility…

…then she isn’t ready. She needs more time and she needs to do it on under the radar.

I’m tired of her going around saying “Everybody, look what I learned!!”

Conservative Samizdat on December 9, 2010 at 8:31 PM

I think the law simply was written in good faith, based on AK politics. Nobody could have anticipated the national push that happened.

AnninCA on December 9, 2010 at 6:13 PM

Exactly.

Why is it you understand this but these trolls don’t?

gary4205 on December 9, 2010 at 8:31 PM

Not saying they shouldn’t be challenged… just done in a respectful way. Calling names only makes the your argument look weak.

jdoubleu on December 9, 2010 at 3:54 PM

A general time-line of your average palin discussion with the so-called reasonable detractors follows.
::

Palin Detractor: Palin is not qualified.
_

Palin Supporter: She seems to fit the qualifications specified. She is a natural born citizen over 35.

_

PD: But she has – like – zero experience. She’s just a pretty face with no ideas.

PS: (repeats something about the 20-plus years Palin has been in politics in both elective and appointed office)
_

PD: But she’s a QUITTER and a DUMB CHILLBILLY!!!eleventy-one!!

_

PS: You are an ignorant troll and a dumba$s who’s credibility is shot in my view.

_

jdoubleu: You Palin worshipers really are rabid. No one can disagree with you without being insulted. You should be more respectful.

_

Brian Epps: You are demonstrating your ignorance. I respectfully advise you to get stuffed.

Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on December 9, 2010 at 8:32 PM

Keep that link in your bookmarks, folks, to pull out when the Mitt’s the Man crowd start crowing.

hrh40 on December 9, 2010 at 8:23 PM

Good stuff, hrh!

Further, even though Mitt stayed in office longer (technically), his record is terrible.
When you put his record up against Palin’s, he looks even worse.

One of the reasons Palin said that she was OK with having to resign was that she had accomplished all she had set out to do when she became Governor and she accomplished a lot!

Jenfidel on December 9, 2010 at 8:35 PM

So Mitt’s the Man folks: Which is worse, stepping down when you can no longer effectively govern? OR continuing to take taxpayers’ money when you effectively have NO intention of continuing to govern?

hrh40 on December 9, 2010 at 8:26 PM

Until I’m convinced otherwise, I’ll have to assume that the governorship to Romney was nothing more than a stepping-stone to a presidential run, much like Obama’s Senate term. Romney didn’t want to run for a second term because a) he might well have been beaten, wouldn’t have looked good and b)he opportunistically ran for president rather than see through the initiatives undertaken during his first and only term.

Convince me otherwise, Romney supporters. We can play the “quitter” game all kinds of ways.

ddrintn on December 9, 2010 at 8:36 PM

She wasn’t allowed to have the “official” fund. Evidently, with better lawyers she could have made one work.

dedalus on December 9, 2010 at 6:37 PM

The top experts in the nation set hers up. The same people who set up Clinton’s moron.

It’s one thing to be an idiotic and bugsome troll, but my God at least go learn something about the subject before you make yourself look even stupider.

As I said before you should pray and give thanks to Mother Gaia that stupidity isn’t painful because you’d be maxed out at this point.

gary4205 on December 9, 2010 at 8:37 PM

Unlike Palin, other politicians aren’t making extended trips around the world for the sake of improving their credibility and appear more Presidential.

Unlike Palin, the others are held to a different, more lax standard of foreign policy expertise. Bain Capital must’ve made Mitt a foreign policy whiz as well. Romney has as much (or as little) foreign policy experience as Palin.

If she’s going around making a big show about all the experience she’s getting from reading books, talking to people, making trips just so that she can build up her credibility…

…then she isn’t ready. She needs more time and she needs to do it on under the radar.

I’m tired of her going around saying “Everybody, look what I learned!!”

Conservative Samizdat on December 9, 2010 at 8:31 PM

Come off it. It’s “damned if she does, damned if she doesn’t”, as usual.

ddrintn on December 9, 2010 at 8:40 PM

If she’s going around making a big show about all the experience she’s getting from reading books, talking to people, making trips just so that she can build up her credibility…

…then she isn’t ready. She needs more time and she needs to do it on under the radar.

I’m tired of her going around saying “Everybody, look what I learned!!”

Conservative Samizdat on December 9, 2010 at 8:31 PM

You know, I don’t remember her nattering on and on about how she’s learning so much or how she’s getting so experienced; she’s just out there making speeches and doing the things she needs to be doing, and the media keep reporting on it. Why is it important that she be doing it under the radar? Is she supposed to be running around wearing disguises in order to escape detection by the media? And if she were to be gaining her experience under the radar, then how would you know she was gaining the experience she needs anyway?

By the way, you didn’t answer my question: You know that Sarah Palin has twenty years of executive experience in Alaska, right?

Aitch748 on December 9, 2010 at 8:40 PM

I’m tired of her going around saying “Everybody, look what I learned!!”

Conservative Samizdat on December 9, 2010 at 8:31 PM

*buzzer*
I see you still didn’t answer my question.
A.) She isn’t doing this and I don’t know why you’d say it, except in a pathetic attempt to make her look as moronic as Mitt.
B.) She’s going on a trip to Haiti with Rev. Franklin Graham for the charity Samaritan’s Purse to visit the cholera victims there with aid.
Not “for the sake of improving their credibility and appear more Presidential” as you imagined.
C.) Mitt is the one who pops up at the weirdest times and says, “Everybody! Don’t I sound smart?! And “moderate?!”‘ and I’m tired of it.
The man is boring…and about as sincere as a TV salesman at Circuit City (now bankrupt), plus he’s basically an idiot.

Jenfidel on December 9, 2010 at 8:43 PM

gary4205 on December 9, 2010 at 8:37 PM

LOL. That’s adorable.

dedalus on December 9, 2010 at 8:45 PM

PD: But she’s a QUITTER and a DUMB CHILLBILLY!!!eleventy-one!!

_

PS: You are an ignorant troll and a dumba$s who’s credibility is shot in my view.

Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on December 9, 2010 at 8:32 PM

ROFL!
Welcome to our world, Brian, and Merry Christmas!

Jenfidel on December 9, 2010 at 8:46 PM

The man is boring…and about as sincere as a TV salesman at Circuit City (now bankrupt), plus he’s basically an idiot.

Jenfidel on December 9, 2010 at 8:43 PM

Oh no, he’s not an idiot. I just don’t have ideological confidence in him (and I supported him over McCain in ’08). Romney is a guy who wants to be president to round out his resume, nothing more. Much like Bush 41.

ddrintn on December 9, 2010 at 8:46 PM

gary4205 on December 9, 2010 at 8:07 PM

It really does get exasperating, doesn’t it? People who say they don’t want Sarah Palin as president and then give as their reasons some talking points at least 18 months out of date, like how she couldn’t handle her governor job and just ran away from it. We keep explaining why she left, but they won’t listen. And then they make lots of noise about how they’re getting martyred by the Palinista cult that (they say) jumps on them whenever they say the smallest thing against Sarah. This whining about “Palinistas” is getting old, too. It certainly doesn’t make me feel more conciliatory toward them.

Aitch748 on December 9, 2010 at 8:18 PM

You know, if all of these anti-Palin trolls were intelligent and could make articulate arguments it wouldn’t be a problem.

Of course none dare tell you who THEY support because they know whoever it is is inadequate and would get ripped to shred based on their RECORD and not some abstract bullsh!t.

They are incapable of discussing policy.

It’s why I have no respect for them. How can one respect fools and liars.

gary4205 on December 9, 2010 at 8:48 PM

So while she was working on sweeping ethics reform she didn’t bother on fixing the dumb portion of the law?

terryannonline on December 9, 2010 at 5:56 PM

She wouldn’t have the power to change the law. The state congress would be the ones doing that. She would just have to either sign the reform bill or veto it. If it was never brought before her to do so, I don’t see how you can blame her for not changing a portion of a law.

mizflame98 on December 9, 2010 at 8:51 PM

I’m tired of her going around saying “Everybody, look what I learned!!”

Conservative Samizdat on December 9, 2010 at 8:31 PM

Huh?

mizflame98 on December 9, 2010 at 8:53 PM

You know, if all of these anti-Palin trolls were intelligent and could make articulate arguments it wouldn’t be a problem.

gary4205 on December 9, 2010 at 8:48 PM

I would regard them more favorably if they would just be honest and say “Look, I just don’t like her; I never have, and I never will” instead of trotting out the same tired memes over and over. Then I would regard them even more favorably if they would just give up the streetcorner wild-eyed anti-Palin evangelism routine in each and every Palin thread that pops up here. If she’s as hopeless as they seem to think she is, then that will become self-evident soon enough without their evangelism. It isn’t convincing anyone.

ddrintn on December 9, 2010 at 8:54 PM

Of course none dare tell you who THEY support because they know whoever it is is inadequate and would get ripped to shred based on their RECORD and not some abstract bullsh!t

What is wrong with some of us waiting to see how all this shakes out? 2012 is long way off and you are way off with this nutty theory. Some of us simply don’t know yet and are too busy watching what’s going to happen with this next Congress.

Now what will you call me? Nimrod? Stupid troll? Ignorant? Hater?

Knucklehead on December 9, 2010 at 8:56 PM

Oh no, he’s not an idiot.
ddrintn on December 9, 2010 at 8:46 PM

Ever heard his flip-flops? Where he takes both sides of the abortion issue? Or about gay “rights?” Or about gun control?
Or his rationale for a bailout for the car companies?
He’s either an idiot or a liar who has no principles.
As Fox News says, We report, you decide.

If you are implying that his success with Bain Capital shows he’s a business “genius,” that’s mostly due to the power of Mormon crony capitalism, my friend.

Jenfidel on December 9, 2010 at 8:57 PM

She wasn’t allowed to have the “official” fund. Evidently, with better lawyers she could have made one work.

dedalus on December 9, 2010 at 6:37 PM

The top experts in the nation set hers up. The same people who set up Clinton’s moron.

It’s one thing to be an idiotic and bugsome troll, but my God at least go learn something about the subject before you make yourself look even stupider.

As I said before you should pray and give thanks to Mother Gaia that stupidity isn’t painful because you’d be maxed out at this point.

gary4205 on December 9, 2010 at 8:37 PM

They filed an ethics violation charge on her legal fund. Oops! You got it wrong… AGAIN!

Troll, please leave. None of what you say is anywhere near accurate.

MrX on December 9, 2010 at 9:01 PM

How can one respect fools and liars.

gary4205 on December 9, 2010 at 8:48 PM

Must be tough looking in the mirror in the morning.

MrX on December 9, 2010 at 9:02 PM

Unlike Palin, other politicians aren’t making extended trips around the world for the sake of improving their credibility and appear more Presidential.

Unlike Palin, the others are held to a different, more lax standard of foreign policy expertise. Bain Capital must’ve made Mitt a foreign policy whiz as well. Romney has as much (or as little) foreign policy experience as Palin.

If she’s going around making a big show about all the experience she’s getting from reading books, talking to people, making trips just so that she can build up her credibility…

…then she isn’t ready. She needs more time and she needs to do it on under the radar.

I’m tired of her going around saying “Everybody, look what I learned!!”

Conservative Samizdat on December 9, 2010 at 8:31 PM

Come off it. It’s “damned if she does, damned if she doesn’t”, as usual.

ddrintn on December 9, 2010 at 8:40 PM

Does the Bay State conduct foreign trade on an appreciable level?

People forget Sarah has a hell of a lot more foreign policy experience than Clinton did when he took Office.

Why?

Alaska trades with most of the world. Russia, most of Asia really. Much of Europe, Japan and so on. Arkansas does not.

As the State’s CEO Sarah was intimately involved with foreign trade. That’s foreign policy.

Back in January of 2009 she hosted hundreds of ambassadors and trade reps from all over the world as Alaska celebrated it’s 50th birthday, as a state.

BTW, since most of America wouldn’t lose much sleep if Massachusetts was blown up, I doubt Mittens received very many national security briefings.

On the other hand, Sarah had one of the higher levels of clearance and was routinely briefed.

As I posted yesterday, under her watch the 176th wing of the Alaska Air Guard escorted 22 Russian Bear Bombers out of Alaskan air space.

Mittens isn’t even qualified to carry her purse.

gary4205 on December 9, 2010 at 9:03 PM

Romney is a guy who wants to be president to round out his resume, nothing more. Much like Bush 41.

ddrintn on December 9, 2010 at 8:46 PM

Actually, I wish it were only that benign.

Mitt has been groomed to be President to restore the Romney Family Honor ever since his father, George Romney, lost the 1968 nomination to Richard Nixon. Pure and simple. A Romney must be president for the Romney Family Honor.

George lost because he was too moderate.
Mitt is just as moderate, but masquerades as a conservative (like Nixon did and won) in order to win.

And I guess Bain Capital made Mitt an expert on foreign affairs – because he shipped all his jobs overseas!

hrh40 on December 9, 2010 at 9:05 PM

If you are implying that his success with Bain Capital shows he’s a business “genius,” that’s mostly due to the power of Mormon crony capitalism, my friend.

Jenfidel on December 9, 2010 at 8:57 PM

No, I’m saying the man is no idiot. Unlike the Palin-deranged, I can give other potential candidates a level of respect. It’s something we all should do.

ddrintn on December 9, 2010 at 9:06 PM

I would regard them more favorably if they would just be honest and say “Look, I just don’t like her; I never have, and I never will” instead of trotting out the same tired memes over and over. Then I would regard them even more favorably if they would just give up the streetcorner wild-eyed anti-Palin evangelism routine in each and every Palin thread that pops up here. If she’s as hopeless as they seem to think she is, then that will become self-evident soon enough without their evangelism. It isn’t convincing anyone.

ddrintn on December 9, 2010 at 8:54 PM

gary4205 on December 9, 2010 at 9:06 PM

Regarding Palin’s foreign experience, check out the header on my Connecticut for Sarah Palin page

http://hrh40.wordpress.com/

That’s Governor Palin meeting with the Russian ambassador and others in her office.

hrh40 on December 9, 2010 at 9:09 PM

I would regard them more favorably if they would just be honest and say “Look, I just don’t like her; I never have, and I never will” instead of trotting out the same tired memes over and over. Then I would regard them even more favorably if they would just give up the streetcorner wild-eyed anti-Palin evangelism routine in each and every Palin thread that pops up here. If she’s as hopeless as they seem to think she is, then that will become self-evident soon enough without their evangelism. It isn’t convincing anyone.

ddrintn on December 9, 2010 at 8:54 PM

gary4205 on December 9, 2010 at 9:06 PM

Oy, hit enter too quick!

You are so right though.

What does it tell you that these trolls spam every thread with hate and stupidity, but can never carry on a rational, intelligent conversation.

If Sarah was so hopeless as these losers pretend she is, no one would even bother to show up and read about her.

You don’t fight this hard to stop someone who isn’t very significant.

It’s funny, really. I wonder if these zombies think people actually take them serious. Or seem them as anything but what they are?

Of course, one knows she powerful because there is no “stop Mitt Romney (or Tim Pawlenty, Mitch Daniels, Mike Huckabee, fill in the blank) effort on going.

As Shakespeare would say “They doth protest too much.”

I(‘d just for once like to meet a RomneyBot that had enough intelligence to sit down and talk issues.

gary4205 on December 9, 2010 at 9:13 PM

Romney supporters. We can play the “quitter” game all kinds of ways.

ddrintn on December 9, 2010 at 8:36 PM

I’m not one who’s playing the quitter game. I don’t see her quiting as a positive or negative. She quit. Why she quit is really her business. Not mine.

And if she were to be gaining her experience under the radar, then how would you know she was gaining the experience she needs anyway?

By the way, you didn’t answer my question: You know that Sarah Palin has twenty years of executive experience in Alaska, right?

Aitch748 on December 9, 2010 at 8:40 PM

Yes, I’m aware she has executive experience.

Its like a job interview. If someone comes in and hands a resume that has a long list of experience, sometimes despite the fact they have a good resume doesn’t mean they’re right for the job.

Sometimes people with lots of experience need to go out and get more for the position they want.

She can show that she got experience by getting under the radar by demonstrating in speeches and debates.

So far from what I’ve heard her speak and write, I’m not sold on her.

Conservative Samizdat on December 9, 2010 at 9:14 PM

While executive experience from either the private sector or the public sector or both is highly desirable in a President, the president was never intended to be the CEO of the country, nor should America be run as if it were a business.

Jenfidel on December 9, 2010 at 4:47 PM

One of the most important things a CEO is tasked with in running a business is the increase in market share.

Anyone out there really want government to increase it’s market share?

Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on December 9, 2010 at 9:15 PM

If you are implying that his success with Bain Capital shows he’s a business “genius,” that’s mostly due to the power of Mormon crony capitalism, my friend.

Jenfidel on December 9, 2010 at 8:57 PM

You have some serious issue with the LDS faith.

Bain was started by a group of businessmen who came from a wide diversity of backgrounds…including religion.

Conservative Samizdat on December 9, 2010 at 9:16 PM

Regarding Palin’s foreign experience, check out the header on my Connecticut for Sarah Palin page

http://hrh40.wordpress.com/

That’s Governor Palin meeting with the Russian ambassador and others in her office.

hrh40 on December 9, 2010 at 9:09 PM

Nice. I gotta add your blog to my blog roll.

gary4205 on December 9, 2010 at 9:18 PM

They filed an ethics violation charge on her legal fund. Oops! You got it wrong… AGAIN!

Troll, please leave. None of what you say is anywhere near accurate.

MrX on December 9, 2010 at 9:01 PM

Duh.

Must be tough looking in the mirror in the morning.

MrX on December 9, 2010 at 9:02 PM

Nah, I’m quite good looking, but not vain about it.

gary4205 on December 9, 2010 at 9:23 PM

What is wrong with some of us waiting to see how all this shakes out? 2012 is long way off and you are way off with this nutty theory. Some of us simply don’t know yet and are too busy watching what’s going to happen with this next Congress.

Now what will you call me? Nimrod? Stupid troll? Ignorant? Hater?

Knucklehead on December 9, 2010 at 8:56 PM

Drink your Kool-Aid and get with the program.

churchill995 on December 9, 2010 at 9:26 PM

One of the most important things a CEO is tasked with in running a business is the increase in market share.

Anyone out there really want government to increase it’s market share?

Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on December 9, 2010 at 9:15 PM

Your analogy sucks. And it reveals your ignorance about business.

Market share doesn’t mean size, it means percentage of influence you have in comparison with the entire market.

A small company can have a large market share. So can a big one. Size of the business is irrelevant.

What is relevant is how much of your product makes up the total share of that market.

If you have a better product that people like and it comes to dominate the market, it means your product is superior to all other competitors.

So, in terms of market share, Romney wants to have conservatives and freedom dominate in the market of ideas both at home and globally.

Also, businessman focuses on maximizing profits, reducing debts and eliminating redundant departments and organizations. The bottom line of ALL business is fiscal responsibility.

Business are also about satisfying the shareholder. In this case, the shareholder for the government is the American people.

So your analogy actually works in favor for Mitt since the product Mitt markets is less government that works efficiently and without debt.

Conservative Samizdat on December 9, 2010 at 9:28 PM

Conservative Samizdat on December 9, 2010 at 9:28 PM

So how is Mitt going to reign in Congress’s spending? (And how well did Mitt manage Massachusetts money when he was governor?)

Aitch748 on December 9, 2010 at 9:42 PM

It would be so cool if they gave her the Winston Churchill bust.

gooddad on December 9, 2010 at 9:42 PM

Conservative Samizdat on December 9, 2010 at 9:28 PM

So Mitt increased Mass. Governments market share and influence in Massachusetts. How is that working out?

I’d say my analogy is spot on. Mitt is a great manager, but he is too enamored of organizational solutions from the top for my taste.

Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on December 9, 2010 at 9:45 PM

So your analogy actually works in favor for Mitt since the product Mitt markets is less government that works efficiently and without debt.

Conservative Samizdat on December 9, 2010 at 9:28 PM

What a bunch of B.S.!
Mitt’s a Statist.
He ran MA like a Statist–RomneyCare, anyone?
And he loved the government bailout of the car companies, too.
He doesn’t like “less government,” he loves implementing Bigger Government.
As for debt, MA’s going further and further into debt as time goes on because of RomneyCare (and the Big Dig).

Jenfidel on December 9, 2010 at 9:49 PM

Conservative Samizdat on December 9, 2010 at 8:31 PM

One thing I have found at HA is that most posters who use the word “Conservative” in the screen name usually aren’t.

bw222 on December 9, 2010 at 10:08 PM

Interesting article from Wall Street Journal: White House Hopefuls Watch and Wait. From the article:

The first four nominating contests—in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada—have been pushed to February 2012, a month later than in 2008. But potentially more significant was the Republican National Committee’s August ruling that any primaries the following month—including those in the normally pivotal Super Tuesday cluster—can’t be winner-take-all. Instead, those states will have to award their delegates proportionally to the candidates’ vote share, which could make it harder for one candidate to rack up large totals early in the campaign.

Looks like a damn conspiracy against Sarah.

/sarc off

churchill995 on December 9, 2010 at 10:09 PM

One quality the next President of the United States is going to need is courage. If Mitt Romney has proven anything over and over again in his life, it’s that he totally lacks courage.

bw222 on December 9, 2010 at 10:15 PM

One thing I have found at HA is that most posters who use the word “Conservative” in the screen name usually aren’t.

bw222 on December 9, 2010 at 10:08 PM

Concernily Concerned Concern Trolls. That tactic is so old and busted it’s funny.

VidOmnia on December 9, 2010 at 10:19 PM

CUDA AND THE IRON LADY <3

I cannot wait. <33333333

lansing quaker on December 9, 2010 at 10:26 PM

So how is Mitt going to reign in Congress’s spending? (And how well did Mitt manage Massachusetts money when he was governor?)

Aitch748 on December 9, 2010 at 9:42 PM

When Mitt Romney walked into the Govenor’s mansion. The state was in debt to the tune of $3 million. When he left office, the statue had a $2 million surplus.

Conservative Samizdat on December 9, 2010 at 10:30 PM

When Mitt Romney walked into the Govenor’s mansion. The state was in debt to the tune of $3 million. When he left office, the statue had a $2 million surplus.

Conservative Samizdat on December 9, 2010 at 10:30 PM

But not for long…
And he raped a bunch of accounts off the state books to get that surplus.

Jenfidel on December 9, 2010 at 10:33 PM

When Mitt Romney walked into the Govenor’s mansion. The state was in debt to the tune of $3 million. When he left office, the statue had a $2 million surplus.

Conservative Samizdat on December 9, 2010 at 10:30 PM

Here’s how he did it:
Mitt Romney raised fees and Taxes as Governor

Jenfidel on December 9, 2010 at 10:38 PM

Here’s how he did it:
Mitt Romney raised fees and Taxes as Governor

Jenfidel on December 9, 2010 at 10:38 PM

True. But he also reduced spending considerably year after year.

Everyone conservative I know is worried about about excessive spending by our government. That is the biggest problem.

Lots of politicians give lip service to reducing spending. Mitt Romney has a track record of actually reining in government spending. He does what he says.

Conservative Samizdat on December 9, 2010 at 10:50 PM

Lots of politicians give lip service to reducing spending. Mitt Romney has a track record of actually reining in government spending. He does what he says.

Conservative Samizdat on December 9, 2010 at 10:50 PM

Are you being deliberately obtuse?
I don’t believe Mittens reduced spending one bit; in fact, with the implementation of MittCare, he increased it!
And he raised state taxes and fees!
Plus, the state of MA blew that surplus as fast as he created it by his statist legerdemain.

No thanks!

Jenfidel on December 9, 2010 at 10:58 PM

True. But he also reduced spending considerably year after year.

Everyone conservative I know is worried about about excessive spending by our government. That is the biggest problem.

Lots of politicians give lip service to reducing spending. Mitt Romney has a track record of actually reining in government spending. He does what he says.

Conservative Samizdat on December 9, 2010 at 10:50 PM

You really don’t have to have austerity to balance a budget. Cut taxes and cut spending. Raise taxes and eventually you’re going to have an exodus out of your state. Compare Massachusetts and California with Texas and Florida.

ddrintn on December 9, 2010 at 11:05 PM

I haven’t had time to read the whole thread, so apologies if this has been addressed, but wasn’t she supposed to be meeting Thatcher this Nov-Dec? Is that on for the UK stop?

ornery_independent on December 9, 2010 at 11:09 PM

Lots of politicians give lip service to reducing spending. Mitt Romney has a track record of actually reining in government spending. He does what he says.

Conservative Samizdat on December 9, 2010 at 10:50 PM

Mittens was anti-Reagan before he became pro-Reagan; pro-abortion before he was anti-abortion and pro-gay marriage before he was anti-gay marriage. As Joe Biden would say, “Fraud is a six-letter word.”

bw222 on December 9, 2010 at 11:14 PM

You don’t go on a trip and say “look at me…I’m learning how to be President!” You go quietly with out fanfare.

Is she saying “look at me”? If you read the link, the story says “The Daily Caller has learned that…” Palin hasn’t announced (or confirmed, to my knowledge) the trip and thus is not making a big thing of it at all.

Missy on December 9, 2010 at 11:20 PM

“The Daily Caller has learned that…”

sorry, s/b Daily Beast…

Missy on December 9, 2010 at 11:20 PM

People rooting for Palin 2012 are really rooting for Obama 2012.

ninjapirate on December 9, 2010 at 3:10 PM

Not really, but you can play in your sandbox all you want

Sonosam on December 9, 2010 at 3:14 PM

He did play in the sandbox but he had to give it up. The neighborhood cats kept burying him.

pdigaudio on December 10, 2010 at 1:54 AM

I know that this trip could be politically advantageous to Palin, but is it really all about politics?

She suddenly has millions of dollars, has written two books, has done a TV series on Alaska, and has played a major role in getting a Republican Congress elected.

Why wouldn’t she go overseas now?

Why wouldn’t an unabashed Christian and patriot want to visit Israel and Britain? I know I’d love to visit both!

And why wouldn’t she make the trip during the harsh Alaska winter? In fact, I’d love to leave behind the winter here and go overseas, and I live in South Mississippi where the winters are comparatively mild. (Last year, it actually snowed several times. I’m still shocked!)

There Goes The Neighborhood on December 10, 2010 at 2:56 AM

So your analogy actually works in favor for Mitt since the product Mitt markets is less government that works efficiently and without debt.Conservative Samizdat on December 9, 2010 at 9:28 PM

Tell that to the Bay State…

Gohawgs on December 10, 2010 at 3:02 AM

Why would it make them less credible…

Palin 2012 is a disaster and a pipe dream… it’s not going to happen.

ninjapirate on December 9, 2010 at 3:10 PM

The Palin Tigerbeat fanclub is going to prey on your unbelieving flesh.

But…you’re still right. She has no chance, and will not be nominated.

You-Eh-Vee on December 9, 2010 at 3:20 PM

If she has no chance, then why not let her run like everyone else without feeling the need to explain to everyone how she has no chance?

There Goes The Neighborhood on December 10, 2010 at 3:07 AM

There Goes The Neighborhood on December 10, 2010 at 3:07 AM

Maybe because they are worried that the 3rd place finisher in the ’08 Republican Primary will lose again…Or maybe that the man that basically stood by and watched as Al Franken was elected will not make it past the February ’12 primaries…Or…Or…Or…Or…

Gohawgs on December 10, 2010 at 3:12 AM

The biggest difference between Romney and Kerry is that Romney inherited his money whereas Kerry married his…

Gohawgs on December 10, 2010 at 3:13 AM

Unlike Palin, other politicians aren’t making extended trips around the world for the sake of improving their credibility and appear more Presidential.

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I’m tired of her going around saying “Everybody, look what I learned!!”

Conservative Samizdat on December 9, 2010 at 8:31 PM

I’m tired of her going around saying “Everybody, look what I learned!!”

Conservative Samizdat on December 9, 2010 at 8:31 PM

Your rant would have a lot more weight if Palin was actually announcing that she was going on an overseas trip “for the sake of improving [her] credibility and appear [sic] more Presidential.” or saying. “Look what I’ve learned.”

Instead, we have essentially gossip that she’s thinking about making a trip overseas, and conjecture that it’s all for political purposes.

If you really want to be irritated, maybe it should be with the people pushing the story without any real facts, and speculating about what’s in it for Palin politically.

That would actually put you in good company with Palin advisor Rebecca Mansour.

Update: Palin advisor Rebecca Mansour doesn’t quite claim that the Daily Beast is making things up, but…

@shushwalshe how do you claim “exclusive” knowledge of anything when you’ve got nothing but conjecture? You call this journalism?

There Goes The Neighborhood on December 10, 2010 at 3:45 AM

There Goes The Neighborhood on December 10, 2010 at 3:07 AM

Maybe because they are worried that the 3rd place finisher in the ’08 Republican Primary will lose again…Or maybe that the man that basically stood by and watched as Al Franken was elected will not make it past the February ’12 primaries…Or…Or…Or…Or…

Gohawgs on December 10, 2010 at 3:12 AM

I just think it’s hilarious how the people who are always telling us that she has no chance of success are so worried she might try…..

There Goes The Neighborhood on December 10, 2010 at 3:48 AM

There Goes The Neighborhood on December 10, 2010 at 3:48 AM

True…I also find the notion that Gov. Palin should wait to run until 2016. Why? So she can run against a sitting Republican President in the form or Romney/Pawlenty/Thune/et al? Or, because “they” concede a 2nd term to the obamanation?

Gohawgs on December 10, 2010 at 3:52 AM

“until 2016″ lacking…

Preview is my friend…

Gohawgs on December 10, 2010 at 3:54 AM

Or, perhaps she’s always wanted to visit Israel and Great Britain.

hawksruleva on December 10, 2010 at 10:26 AM

Well, it turns out it was Haiti. What an odd blog rumor.

AnninCA on December 10, 2010 at 10:52 AM

As for her running? Folks, she’s obviously running.

I can’t imagine anyone credibly thinking otherwise.

AnninCA on December 10, 2010 at 10:53 AM

Hmmmm… look at all of the comments. Must be a Palin thread! ;-)

If she eventually goes overseas and links up with some of the world leaders as discussed in this thread, I suspect that will BEGIN, though not end, the journey for helping non-fans to start looking more favorable towards her as a potential POTUS.

Heck, we should just give her the nickname PP45 as shorthand for Potential POTUS 45. And if she decides to go for it and run in 2012, you can bet that a new Palin Watch industry will erupt in her wake. Oh, the money it could generate…

itzWicks on December 10, 2010 at 11:51 AM

Why does she have to be seeking attention to make this trip? She was a friend to Israel long before she was in the public eye. She has long wanted to visit. Perhaps it’s never been financially or logistically feasible for her before this; it’s a long way from Alaska to Israel, and not an inexpensive trip. Also, I suspect her adding Britain to the list has a lot to do with wanting to meet with Maggie not so much for the photo op (tho I know *I* look forward to it!) but instead to sit at the feet of greatness and maybe, you know, learn some stuff. Aren’t her detractors always saying she needs to “study up?” I can think of few honest to goodness to conservatives she can learn more from than a woman who was similarly derided for being a hick when she was coming up through the ranks herself. And as arguably the rightful heir to the mantle of Reaganism, a chat with one of the man’s dearest friends and closest political allies seems like a no-brainer. Will it burnish her credentials? Perhaps with some, but the MSM and the Rove contingent of the party will do their level best to scoff and brush it off as opportunism. I don’t think that’s Palin’s primary motivation. I think she’s hoping to broaden her horizons for her own edification. If it impresses some primary voters, that’s just gravy.

NoLeftTurn on December 10, 2010 at 11:55 AM

If you are implying that his success with Bain Capital shows he’s a business “genius,” that’s mostly due to the power of Mormon crony capitalism, my friend.

Jenfidel on December 9, 2010 at 8:57 PM

And with this predictable statement, Palin fangirl Jenfidel reveals her true colors. Bigot. Hypocrite as well. You come with all the same kind of nonsense against Romney as you accuse various folks with respect to Palin. You’re dense and transparent.

dakine on December 10, 2010 at 12:27 PM

If you are implying that his success with Bain Capital shows he’s a business “genius,” that’s mostly due to the power of Mormon crony capitalism, my friend.

Jenfidel on December 9, 2010 at 8:57 PM

I cannot take someone serious who can develop some excuse to explain away any accomplishment Romney may have had.

I may not be a big Palin fan, but I can admit to many of her virtues. It seems Jenfidel and Gary can find absolutely nothing good to say about Romney. When you show you can find nothing good in any person you expose your bias.

If you want have any heir of credibility at least acknowledge strengths in an opponent instead of automatically gainsaying anything positive about someone.

Good example: Romney had praised Obama for taking the correct course in Afghanistan (though Obama campaigned on doing the opposite.)

Regarding Palin. Good on her for making a trip to burnish credentials. When she gets in the race it will make her that much improved, and raise the level of the playing field for all candidates. We don’t raise the quality of the final nominee by eliminating competition – it’s just makes the nominee that much better.

Nate G. on December 10, 2010 at 4:38 PM

Good post Nate G. Fruitless though. You’ll never get through to the likes of Jenfidel. She’s a cultist when it comes to Palin. Palin is flawless (god like to Jen in fact) and every other potential candidate is full of weaknesses. Pretty pathetic.

dakine on December 10, 2010 at 6:50 PM

Let’s stop pretending that Palin is remotely presidential caliber. I think the nation has had more than enough of a neophyte running the show; we don’t need another.

redfoxbluestate on December 10, 2010 at 7:35 PM

redfoxbluestate on December 10, 2010 at 7:35 PM

I don’t know which is sadder: the party that gave us the Bush Bunch trying to foist this bubbleheaded snowbilly on America…or the fact that many of them think she’s their best potential candidate. They compare her to Reagan, for heaven’s sake, and she’s barely fit to be his secretary. Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel! If it weren’t for her looks and her ‘sainted mom’ status for having a retarded kid…

Dark-Star on December 12, 2010 at 9:30 AM

I don’t know which is sadder: the party that gave us the Bush Bunch trying to foist this bubbleheaded snowbilly on America… Dark-Star on December 12, 2010 at 9:30 AM

I s’pose, if you compare ‘em with the party that gave us the current inept, inexperienced abdicating Marxist rhetorician in the WH, Sarah looks pretty much like the winner she actually is.

…glass houses, and all that. Dork.

davisbr on December 12, 2010 at 5:07 PM

Oops, forgot to mention that I was (and still am) a supporter of G.W. Bush – much more so than most Hot Air commenters (many of whom are Becksters who like to recite talking points that he’s a RINO “progressive”). Gary, in all her infinite wisdom, made an assumption she would know absolutely nothing about since I was spending my time battling libs at the AJC at the height of his presidency, and the Iraq War. Moreover, to the best of my knowledge, I had never “engaged” Gary, and never had a “conversation” with her, so she broke your rules of engagement (as well as breaking all bounds of civility). I don’t even recall seeing her name until recently. Jenfidel, on the other hand, I am all too aware of, as are many others. She’s kinda notorious that way…

Buy Danish on December 21, 2010 at 6:03 PM

Wrong thread! Sorry…

Buy Danish on December 21, 2010 at 6:04 PM

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