Olby: Obama won’t get renominated if tax deal goes through

posted at 2:15 pm on December 8, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

How angry has the professional Left become? Their oracle on MSNBC isn’t just warning that Barack Obama won’t get re-elected after cutting a deal with Republicans, but won’t even be on the ticket come November 2012. Keith Olbermann warned in his Special Comment last night that Obama won’t survive a primary challenge if he persists, because Democrats and progressives are wedded to principles, not personalities:

Er, doesn’t the nomination of Obama in 2008 more or less rebut that notion? Obama didn’t offer any different rhetoric than did John Edwards did, or even Bill Richardson, who was a lot more experienced and qualified as an executive (and in foreign affairs) than Obama. The only real argument for Obama over Hillary Clinton (who was playing all the populist cards at the end, too) was “change” over experience, and Obama’s supposed charisma over Hillary’s baggage.

Beyond that, though, has a sitting president ever been denied the nomination of his party for re-election? None comes to mind, especially in the modern era. LBJ may have come the closest, with a narrow victory in New Hampshire in 1968 enough to push him into retirement. Nor is Obama likely to be the first to lose it. His strong support from African-Americans won’t change no matter how many Special Comments Olbermann launches, and Democrats can’t afford to alienate that bloc in 2012, and not just in the presidential election. A poor turnout among black voters will doom their Senatorial incumbents as well. Splitting the party along progressive lines will doom Democrats across the country in yet another wave election.

If anything, Obama might prevent getting a challenge from the old DLC wing of the party with this deal, and that would be much better for him in the long run. If Evan Bayh (as an example) ran against him in the primaries, Obama would have to run all over again as a progressive, which won’t be the path to re-election, if one exists at all.

Update: Rob Port notes that Olby went for the crazy in another part of last night’s Countdown:

“I will confess I won’t fight if anyone wants to draw a comparison between what you’ve done with our domestic policies of our day to what Neville Chamberlain did with the domestic policies of his,” says Olbermann. The reference is to Neville Chamberlain who, as Prime Minister of Great Britain, infamously cut a deal with Hitler (that Hitler subsequently broke to the surprise of nobody except Chamberlain) and proclaimed “peace in our time.”

Because, in Oblermann’s [sic] world, Republicans are Nazis and the Bush tax cuts are like Hitler’s invasion of Czechoslovakia.

Unless Olbermann has something else other than the Munich capitulation in mind (does anyone care about Chamberlain’s tax policies?), then this is both incoherent and, well, idiotic.  It takes Obama’s “hostage takers” and raises it a couple of Nazis.  Ironically, Chamberlain’s domestic policies were strikingly progressive.  He nationalized the British coal industry, limited working hours, forced paid holidays onto the private sector, and extended rent controls.  If Olbermann has an objection to Chamberlain’s domestic policies, I’m sure his audience would be interested in hearing it.

Also, Hitler invaded Poland, not Czechoslovakia — because Chamberlain made invasion unnecessary.  They gave away the Sudetenland to Hitler, who quietly took the rest six months later.

Update II: Commenters make a good argument that Hitler invaded the rest of Czechoslovakia in March 1939.  It was more an annexation by military deployment; there wasn’t any organized resistance, mainly because Munich had neutered Czechoslovakia.  But still, point taken; it certainly wasn’t an Anschluss.

Update III: Stacy McCain has the full transcript, and Rob misquoted Olby in one key way, emphasis mine:

I don’t want to make any true comparison to the historical event to which it related; the viewer can go ahead and look it up if they wish; I will confess I won’t fight if anybody wants to draw a comparison between what you’ve done with our domestic politics of our day, to what Neville Chamberlain did with the international politics of his.

So Olby didn’t confuse domestic and foreign policy as indicated in Rob’s post — but he still “won’t fight” a comparison between Obama negotiating with Republicans and Chamberlain negotiating with Nazis.


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The True Believer’s have no where else to go. The Big O knows it; the Little O knows the Big O knows it too.

Bruno Strozek on December 8, 2010 at 4:21 PM

“The Rent Is Too Damn High”
Throw out the Pinnochio and wheres his Birth Cert.?

dhunter on December 8, 2010 at 4:21 PM

The absolute reality of this is perhaps the single most racist thing I have witnessed in my adult life.

oldfiveanddimer on December 8, 2010 at 2:39 PM

This might be what they are telling pollsters, but I’m hearing a different thing on the mean streets of suburbia. Maybe I’m not hang’n with the right peeps.

NaCly dog on December 8, 2010 at 4:23 PM

Well hopefully the usual suspects will use their well worn race card on Olby now. That’d be fun.

Dash on December 8, 2010 at 4:40 PM

What are these “principles” about which he speaks? The principle that it’s okay to steal from one group and give to a more favored group?

Pablo Snooze on December 8, 2010 at 4:52 PM

Now Herr Olbergoebbels is a racist.(He’s always been one anyway, not to mention a misogynist) I’ve said all along that Obamalinsky will either be impeached or resign by July of 2011. I wouldn’t be surprised if a solid Moonbat contingent will do the impeaching at this point. Just goes to show how impatient and disconnected from reality Libs really are. They don’t get this country was designed with checks and balances to protect it from the enemy within as well as foreign enemies. I love the Founders more by the day…..

adamsmith on December 8, 2010 at 4:58 PM

This was his meltdown. Meltdowns will happen more and more…

OmahaConservative on December 8, 2010 at 5:22 PM

President Obama is cutting taxes for all Americans because he needs some growth and more employment to try to at least put himself in a position to win reelection.

It is astounding how inaccurate the Beltway talking heads are when describing the impact of policies on the economy (stimulus) and on politics (Time Magazine comparing Obama to FDR and Lincoln simultaneously). Thank god, there are news outlets that have people who use facts to support their analysis-Byron York, Michael Barone, Steve Hayes, and Krauthammer. (others as well)

I couldn’t imagine what it was like to watch and listen to the news before Fox came along. It must have been like being locked in a PBS-like hell.

sDs61678 on December 8, 2010 at 5:41 PM

When you have a thread about Olby,

then this is both incoherent and, well, idiotic.

really REALLY becomes boilerplate from the department of redundnacy department nes pa?

44Magnum on December 8, 2010 at 5:46 PM

The only real argument for Obama over Hillary Clinton (who was playing all the populist cards at the end, too) was “change” over experience, and Obama’s supposed charisma over Hillary’s baggage.

That’s a little disingenuous, isn’t it? It wasn’t just “change” that Barry’s voters wanted; it was that “historic” first black presidency. Libs were going to fulfill Robert F. Kennedy’s prediction (about how a black man might become president in 40 years’ time); demonstrate the continuing importance of the holy grail of “diversity;” give some pay-back to African-American slave descendants for the wrongs done to their ancestors (by, ironically, electing a black man without a single drop of slave blood in him); and prove how cool, hip, and open-minded they were — by voting for the black guy.

AZCoyote on December 8, 2010 at 5:48 PM

Olbermann is a RACIST!!!!

GarandFan on December 8, 2010 at 5:52 PM

What nonsense. They’ll all vote for the Dem candidate no matter who it turns out to be and Obama knows it. We all know it.

jeanie on December 8, 2010 at 5:58 PM

1) Obama pulls a LBJ and refuses to run for reelection. Highly doubtful given the ego of this guy. Plus what sane Democrat(I know, oxymoron) would wanna follow in the footsteps of an incumbent President who sucked so bad at his job that he declined to run again?

Nope, he’ll quit. I am still forecasting an incomplete Obama presidency.

ProudPalinFan on December 8, 2010 at 5:59 PM

EMPTY HACK BUFFOON

He is the definition of a DOLT.S

Synonyms: airhead, birdbrain, blockhead, bonehead, bubblehead, chowderhead, chucklehead, clodpoll (or clodpole), clot [British], cluck, clunk, cretin, cuddy (or cuddie) [British dialect], deadhead, dim bulb [slang], dimwit, dip, dodo, idiot, donkey, doofus [slang], dope, dork [slang], dullard, dumbbell, dumbhead, dum-dum, dummkopf, dummy, dunce, dunderhead, fathead, gander, golem, goof, goon, half-wit, hammerhead, hardhead, ignoramus, imbecile, jackass, know-nothing, knucklehead, lamebrain, loggerhead [chiefly dialect], loon, lump, lunkhead, meathead, mome [archaic], moron, mug [chiefly British], mutt, natural, nimrod [slang], nincompoop, ninny, ninnyhammer, nit [chiefly British], nitwit, noddy, noodle, numskull (or numbskull), oaf, pinhead, prat [British], ratbag [chiefly Australian], saphead, schlub (also shlub) [slang], schnook [slang], simpleton, stock, stupe, stupid, thickhead, turkey, woodenhead, yahoo, yo-yo

Opposite Day on December 8, 2010 at 2:28 PM

That was the intro he made to one of his shows and those same insults were directed at Sarah Palin. My blood boils when I think of it. YEAH LET’S ALL GET TOGETHER AND WRITE TO THE FCC!!!

ProudPalinFan on December 8, 2010 at 6:05 PM

Obama won’t get renominated if tax deal goes through

pity, that.

RealMc on December 8, 2010 at 6:18 PM

Poor Keith. It’s hard being the only righteous man in America.

MikeknaJ on December 8, 2010 at 6:20 PM

Whatever happened to if-you-don’t-support-this-guy-you’re-a-racist? Is Olbermann declaring for the Tea Party?

curved space on December 8, 2010 at 6:41 PM

Looks like bathtub boy really had to work to say “or woman”. I hope the misogynist got hernia trying.

aikidoka on December 8, 2010 at 7:11 PM

Olbermann wouldn’t say this about a white guy.

Ronnie on December 8, 2010 at 8:12 PM

Watching the lib implosion is a lot like watching the end scene of Conan. The orphans of doom, seeing their god, James Earl Jones, beheaded just wander off dejectedly, disillusioned, LOL.

Stacy McCain is right. Time to gloat our asses off.

tlclark on December 8, 2010 at 8:39 PM

Olby: Obama won’t get renominated if tax deal goes through

Gee, Keith. You say it like its a bad thing!!

ToddonCapeCod on December 8, 2010 at 10:24 PM

Olby 2012!

JetBoy on December 8, 2010 at 2:25 PM

I saw a few posters on Democrat underground posting this… LOL

Kjeil on December 9, 2010 at 1:17 AM

I’m pretty sure that these people can’t be pleased.

They think they know what they want… but it has to be so exact that it is impossible to please more than 3 of them at a time.

They are perpetually unhappy. It really doesn’t matter much what is going on around them, they are just unhappy. And woe unto any who catch their eye when they want to vent.

Olberman can not be pleased. None of them can. Good thing they are so few. Now if we can just get them about 20% of the air time instead of nearly all of it.

petunia on December 9, 2010 at 1:20 AM

Whatever happened to if-you-don’t-support-this-guy-you’re-a-racist?
curved space on December 8, 2010 at 6:41 PM

Excellent point. They don’t support personalities… hah, hah, hah, hah, hah,… they don’t really support anything but chaos.

petunia on December 9, 2010 at 1:23 AM

Ogremann quoted Daniel 5:27 twice, any chance he knows it’s a Bible verse?

Kjeil on December 9, 2010 at 1:33 AM

This is clearly a case of being overpaid leading to a Napoleonic complex. I hope Obama does have a tough primary challenge, but I don’t think it’ll be inspired by Olberbama’s little screeds.

I swear that his ratings are being sustained more by conservatives tuning in to watch his head explode than by loyal true believers. Even his own network is sick of him, but he’s got a contract.

flataffect on December 9, 2010 at 4:20 AM

everyone that is a commentator on tv or newsprint needs to have their tax returns published to see how may loopholes they used. How may of them did a straight 1040 with no schedules.

RonK on December 9, 2010 at 4:33 AM

What? No “Worst Person in the World”?

Jaibones on December 9, 2010 at 6:30 AM

If he is a man of principle, he will promise to move to Canada if the tax deal goes through.

Raisedbywolves on December 9, 2010 at 7:11 AM

Ogerman does not age well, nor does he get it about the Politics of Politics. This combination clearly explains his increasing senility.

He always speaks down to his audiences, and in this instance he turns on his beloved president that he felt was the second coming of Dr. Rev. Martin Luther King.

Well, as MSNBC is barely able to hang onto its ability to survive as a Network, maybe Ogerman should try to do what Oprah is doing – establish his own network. OH!!! that’s right he doesn’t know how to plug in the servers, PC’s, cameras, and most important the Microwave.

MSGTAS on December 9, 2010 at 7:31 AM

And then the Republicans nominate Alan Keyes and blow it.

Yeah. It’s a gift.

MSimon on December 9, 2010 at 8:01 AM

You’re never to cave to Republican demands… only to radical Islam’s demands… everybody knows that.

mankai on December 9, 2010 at 8:54 AM

Kjeil on December 9, 2010 at 1:33 AM

Olby is a closet Zionist!

/

mankai on December 9, 2010 at 8:55 AM

When you have a thread about Olby,

then this is both incoherent and, well, idiotic.

really REALLY becomes boilerplate from the department of redundnacy department nes pa?

44Magnum on December 8, 2010 at 5:46 PM

Actually that would be:

N’est-ce pas?

/tragically geeky language nerd

powerpro on December 9, 2010 at 9:19 AM

It’s hard to believe, looking back, how much I enjoyed SportsCenter on ESPN, back when Olby and Dan Patrick were the new hotness. I bought the book, and actually liked Olby better, of the two.

And now, I find it difficult to avoid thoughts of praying for him to get pancreatic cancer.

I do not understand how he can harbor so much hate, and not blow a fuse upstairs (aneurysm). The only explanation I can think of is that most of it is just an act. In which case, I may begin praying.

connertown on December 9, 2010 at 10:14 AM

If true, sounds like a Win – Win.

MTinMN on December 9, 2010 at 12:21 PM

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