New Jersey paper: Why, Chris Christie’s nothing but a big ol’ bully

posted at 10:07 pm on December 7, 2010 by Allahpundit

I’ve gotten two e-mails today from a reader begging me to post this as an outlet for Palin fans to dump all over the big guy. Remember when he goofed on her on Jimmy Fallon’s show? Here’s your chance, Palinistas. It’s payback time.

When Christie finished, Chaudruc motioned for the microphone. This was, after all, a “conversation.” Christie shooed him away and a trooper herded Chaudruc off stage.

The clip appears on YouTube under the title “Christie rips apart rude questioner,” a headline written, no doubt, by a Christie disciple.

By bullying a citizen, hogging the microphone and condescendingly dismissing him, Christie was the rude one. But it’s nothing new.

Christie has turned state politics into one never-ending yo’ mama joke. It doesn’t matter who you are — school superintendent, teacher, student, U.S. senator, state Assembly leader, former education commissioner or just a regular guy trying to have a conversation: If you disagree with him, Christie will try to humiliate you publicly.

It’s mighty entertaining, but I confess, the sheer contrivance of it is starting to wear on me. We get it: Christie’s an alpha dog willing to utter the unpleasant truths that lesser pols don’t dare to say. When he told off that reporter last year, it was magical; when he went after that schoolteacher who was whining about pay cuts, it was glorious. But there’s a new confrontational “moment” seemingly every three days now, which is starting to make them feel less spontaneous and more performed. Pretty soon he’ll be belching in union executives’ faces and then high-fiving his staff. Which, admittedly, would be hilarious, but still — we’re nearing the point of diminishing returns, I think.

Two clips for you, the first of the encounter described above and the second … the softer side of Chris Christie. Such is the love for CC that we got a good half-dozen tips about that one today, believe it or not. Exit question that’s been on my mind lately: Why does Christie get a pass on stuff that other Republicans would be pilloried for? He endorsed Castle in Delaware, he backed a path to citizenship for illegals, he lectured about the Ground Zero mosque, and — the cardinal sin — he mocked Palin. If Romney or Huckabee had done all that, they’d be finished; as it is, Christie finished second to Palin in our Hot Air presidential straw poll. My theory is that he’s like Reagan in a crucial respect — namely, he’s a warrior when it comes to the core conservative concern of his era, which buys him a lot of leeway on other important yet lesser issues. Reagan could get away with raising taxes and approving a mass amnesty of illegals because he was superb on the Cold War; that was the fight that had to be won above all others, and he was the guy who could do it. We couldn’t afford to spare him by taking him down over a satellite issue. Same with Christie right now vis-a-vis fiscal solvency. For the moment, he’s perceived as being the deficit hawk of hawks, with the requisite personal resolve to do some real damage to our entitlement Death Star. (Paul Ryan doubtless has the same resolve but lacks the pugnaciousness that reassures fiscal cons.) So if he wants to back Castle over O’Donnell, eh. It’s dismissed as a personal quirk, irritating yet non-fatal. If anyone else had done it, look out.


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Yo momma jokes? I think they mean Who’s Your Daddy jokes.

SouthernGent on December 7, 2010 at 10:13 PM

Does everyone on the editorial board of the Star Ledger come to work in a pink tutu?

ktrush on December 7, 2010 at 10:14 PM

I cannot see this guy without thinking about Omar the tent maker….nothing personal…it is just the truth.

d1carter on December 7, 2010 at 10:14 PM

*sobs* Christie publically embarrasses public officials who behave poorly. *sobs*

lorien1973 on December 7, 2010 at 10:15 PM

Exit question that’s been on my mind lately: Why does Christie get a pass on stuff that other Republicans would be pilloried for?

Apparently you don’t read the Hot Air comment section on CC posts. He doesn’t get a pass here. If you’re referring to the more general Republican talking heads, CC gets a pass because the GOP Blue Bloods agree with him on those issues.

conservative pilgrim on December 7, 2010 at 10:15 PM

He gets a pass only because.. well look who else we have to choose from. Huckabee, Palin, Pawlenty, Romney… we just ran with McCain 2 years ago, and we’re gonna scream RINO because he needs to be educated on some things?

He’s no Reagan but at least he has some balls.

Dash on December 7, 2010 at 10:18 PM

Palin fan here, and I enjoy Chris Christie porn.

You know sometimes the victim of bullying deserves to be picked on.

Ted Torgerson on December 7, 2010 at 10:18 PM

I’m a big Palin fan. I’m also a big Christie fan.

Hm…

Palin/Christie ticket? Now THAT would make for some awesome bloggin. I’m just sayin.

One Angry Christian on December 7, 2010 at 10:18 PM

But there’s a new confrontational “moment” seemingly every three days now, which is starting to make them feel less spontaneous and more performed.

See, this would lead me to believe that this is just him and he’s not changing for anyone.

I appreciate bluntness. Political correctness is an inefficient form of communication. Note: noone’s claimed a lack of clarity about anything he’s said.

bloghooligan on December 7, 2010 at 10:18 PM

Why does Christie get a pass on stuff that other Republicans would be pilloried for?

Because my mo fo’in fat man in Jersey is the homeboy dishin’ out the pillorie’n’s or something. Matter o’ fact, he’s handing out the passes too!

You wanna be the man, you gotta beat the man.

ted c on December 7, 2010 at 10:19 PM

It wasn’t the best form for Chris to dismiss the guy, but it wasn’t the end of the world either. He’s a pol and he’s got a giant ego. You aren’t shocked are you?

I agree absolutely with Allah that Christie gets a pass for some of his policy faux pas because he’s an unparalleled fighter, but it’s also because he has to appeal to a vastly blue state constituency.

anXdem on December 7, 2010 at 10:19 PM

For me he “gets a pass” over Romney because Christie doesn’t obviously put his finger to the wind over everything.

Marcus on December 7, 2010 at 10:19 PM

but still — we’re nearing the point of diminishing returns, I think.

it’s like porn. The first time you saw it, you remember it. The more you look at it, the less and less there is to be astonished at.

at least that’s what someone told me.

ted c on December 7, 2010 at 10:21 PM

Btw,what is in the guys backpack!!

They are searching……………….right?

canopfor on December 7, 2010 at 10:21 PM

Christie will try to humiliate you publicly.

Aww, the poor widdle Alinskyites just can’t handle their own medicine.

John the Libertarian on December 7, 2010 at 10:21 PM

He should just release a Christmas album. You can’t tell me Christie singing “I’ll be home for Christmas” wouldn’t soften his image up a bit. I’d buy it.

Meric1837 on December 7, 2010 at 10:21 PM

I’ve gotten two e-mails today from a reader begging me to post this as an outlet for Palin fans to dump all over the big guy. Remember when he goofed on her on Jimmy Fallon’s show? Here’s your chance, Palinistas. It’s payback time.

Palinista Here.

Christie is doing what he has to in New Jersey. I applaud it.

Are you not entertained, Allahpundit?

portlandon on December 7, 2010 at 10:22 PM

That’s “ripping apart”? Are you kidding?

He’s popular simply because he asserts executive prerogative and exemplifies executive capability in an age starved of those qualities. He benefits from a collapsed standard. My father was a great executive (a Harvard MBA when that meant something), and in his day and age, Christie would have been unremarkable. (But in fact, my father would have handled that questioner better.)

rrpjr on December 7, 2010 at 10:22 PM

Pretty soon he’ll be belching in union executives’ faces and then high-fiving his staff. Which, admittedly, would be hilarious

I’d pay to see that.

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on December 7, 2010 at 10:23 PM

Alternate headline — AllahP frets that CC is losing his click drawing power.

HA commenters are pretty relentless in cutting every GOP star down to size. Christie gets no exception.

GnuBreed on December 7, 2010 at 10:24 PM

Christie’s shtick started wearing thin on me a couple of months ago. These are looking more and more like they are staged and the grandstanding is getting old.

Like I have said here before, less talk-y, more do-ey. He needs to start delivering on all he has promised. When he starts delivering, then I will be cheering him again. But this is just more of the same.

ramrants on December 7, 2010 at 10:25 PM

Are you not entertained, Allahpundit?

portlandon on December 7, 2010 at 10:22 PM

strong work!

ted c on December 7, 2010 at 10:25 PM

If George W Bush had fought back just 1/10th the amount that Christie does to confront these leftist fools, our nation & party would have been better for it.

portlandon on December 7, 2010 at 10:25 PM

But there’s a new confrontational “moment” seemingly every three days now, which is starting to make them feel less spontaneous and more performed.
=======================================

Is it possible that the Teachers Unions are setting out
plants/Seeds,to rile up Christie,knowingly dam* well,it
would hit You Tube!!

Lets face it,the Left can not compete on policy,or ideas,
so its Destroy Christie Operation Mission!!!

Just a thought!

canopfor on December 7, 2010 at 10:27 PM

Look, I don’t think it’s contrived. He grew up with a Sicilian mother and Scottish father (?) IIRC and admits it was a combative and unquiet household. The guy knows how to fight, and loud. He may not know how to do it otherwise. He is exerting his will over his opponents and, although it may be over the top in some sense, he does use reason, logic and facts to drive his points home.

ted c on December 7, 2010 at 10:27 PM

namely, he’s a warrior when it comes to the core conservative concern of his era, which buys him a lot of leeway on other important yet lesser issues.

true. He is man of his time. If his enemy is spending and debt, then he’s going after it. Mo’ power to him.

Lovs me some fat man.

ted c on December 7, 2010 at 10:29 PM

portlandon on December 7, 2010 at 10:25 PM

Yep. If the two choices were Bush’s method and Christie’s; I’d take Christie’s every single time.

lorien1973 on December 7, 2010 at 10:29 PM

Clip 1: That was bullying? Sheesh. They shook hands after Christie was finished. But I’m sure the FEC will be all over the unequal time in the responses.

Clip 2: Blah. This is a common piece performed during the Christmas season with a VIP doing the narration. CC looked out of his element (obviously) and wasn’t relaxed. Kinda painful to watch; I lasted about 30 seconds.

conservative pilgrim on December 7, 2010 at 10:30 PM

And,p-l-e-a-s-e,spare me,the Left and MSM have been
running roughshod on Team Right for decades,and are
very good at setting up Conservatives to look like idiots!

So far,there hasn’t been anything that I have seen
in the way Christie handles himself in these situations
that are offencive!!

Its about high time,that the GOP get a clue,from Chris
Christie on hows its done!!!!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on December 7, 2010 at 10:31 PM

Palinista Here.

Christie is doing what he has to in New Jersey. I applaud it.

Are you not entertained, Allahpundit?

portlandon on December 7, 2010 at 10:22 PM

portlandon: SarahCudian here.So,your a Palinista eh!!:)
(sarc).

canopfor on December 7, 2010 at 10:33 PM

Is it possible that the Teachers Unions are setting out
plants/Seeds,to rile up Christie,knowingly dam* well,it
would hit You Tube!!

Lets face it,the Left can not compete on policy,or ideas,
so its Destroy Christie Operation Mission!!!

Just a thought!

Quite possible. I guess it’s an easy game when you start to see the pattern. Just a matter of time before the target steps in it. If the Palins aren’t careful they are going to fall into the same trap. It’s now known they’ll respond to everything. And it just takes one big foul-up and then…….

canopfor on December 7, 2010 at 10:27 PM

sherry on December 7, 2010 at 10:34 PM

ted c on December 7, 2010 at 10:27 PM

Agreed. I don’t think his actions, while certainly theatrical, are contrived. He’s a bit histrionic, but so what. He’s a big guy– Big persona, big mouth, obstreperous arguments. Big is who Christie is, and in the land of the small mealy-mouthed pol, big is king.

anXdem on December 7, 2010 at 10:37 PM

Look, my bro in law and sister live in Jersey City. They love(d) them (yes, past tense) some B-Rock Obama back in the day, now you don’t hear a screech about him around the place. They ALSO really now like Chris Christie.

I must be having ….an effect.

btw. they’re atheists too (workin’ on that tho’)…

ted c on December 7, 2010 at 10:37 PM

I wish there were less of bully events. Don’t get me wrong. I love tough politicians. I absolutely love decisive executive. But this kind of thing every 2-3 days becomes theater. When was the last time we heard about policy changes in NJ? My advise to him would be to cool down the rhetoric and focus on governing.

As for Palin vs Christie we have primaries to sort that out.

antisocial on December 7, 2010 at 10:39 PM

You tug on Super Man’s cape, you’re gonna get slammed. Christ Christie: ummm, ummm, ummm.

Dingbat63 on December 7, 2010 at 10:39 PM

Slightly off topic

I was watching Greta and she was talking to Bolton about drug cartel asking for protection money from a school. The teachers did not pay, to the cartel burned down the school.

I was thinking that maybe the cartel should just claim they are a union, because what they are doing sounds a lot like unions.

Send Christie down there to take care of the union.

WoosterOh on December 7, 2010 at 10:42 PM

Why does Christie get a pass on stuff that other Republicans would be pilloried for?

Balls matter. He took on the ultimate sacred cows in NJ, the teachers’ union. Basically the same reason that Guliani gets a pass for finally dealing with the damned wiper racket.

Granted, it’s not enough to make the nut for national office. But that’s not at issue at this point. But to deserve some admiration? Hell, yes.

Splunge on December 7, 2010 at 10:42 PM

Some find Christie entertaining, but his combativeness is counterproductive and breeds the kind of hate speech that plaques the nation.

And it’s not very mature.

Hehe, the editorial board still hasn’t fixed their typo. That kind of thing is for us blog commenters. The nation is getting plaqued!

Anyway, the last of their credibility went up in smoke when they invoked “hate speech”.

forest on December 7, 2010 at 10:43 PM

I really like Chris Christie, but I couldn’t support him for the Presidency.

portlandon on December 7, 2010 at 10:47 PM

Uh, I saw a stupid question being acknowledged then buried, and a shaking of hands.

Bully, not.
A man full of conviction, yes.

God Bless the Troopers and Christie. I hope for success of my home State.

seesalrun on December 7, 2010 at 10:50 PM

Why does Christie get a pass on stuff that other Republicans would be pilloried for?

He and Palin are the only ones with the cajones to say the things we have wanted said for a long time. In other words, it’s called LEADERSHIP!

GrayDog on December 7, 2010 at 10:58 PM

So if he wants to back Castle over O’Donnell, eh. It’s dismissed as a personal quirk, irritating yet non-fatal.

He was right… O’Donnell was an O’Disaster.

ninjapirate on December 7, 2010 at 11:19 PM

ninjapirate on December 7, 2010 at 11:19 PM

Was Castle a desirable candidate?

antisocial on December 7, 2010 at 11:22 PM

Remember when he goofed on her on Jimmy Fallon’s show? Here’s your chance, Palinistas. It’s payback time.

Nah. Christie just bores me at this point. Not worthy of a flame war.

Norwegian on December 7, 2010 at 11:23 PM

Exit question that’s been on my mind lately: Why does Christie get a pass on stuff that other Republicans would be pilloried for?
Apparently you don’t read the Hot Air comment section on CC posts. He doesn’t get a pass here. If you’re referring to the more general Republican talking heads, CC gets a pass because the GOP Blue Bloods agree with him on those issues.

conservative pilgrim on December 7, 2010 at 10:15 PM

I was going to say the same thing… I’m not one who gets all excited about CC for a national position but I think he is perfect for New Jersey…he reminds me of the King of Queens.

CCRWM on December 8, 2010 at 12:03 AM

namely, he’s a warrior when it comes to the core conservative concern of his era, which buys him a lot of leeway on other important yet lesser issues.

The 2nd amendment is not a lesser issue to me.

FloatingRock on December 8, 2010 at 12:04 AM

Why does Christie get a pass on stuff that other Republicans would be pilloried for? He endorsed Castle in Delaware, he backed a path to citizenship for illegals, he lectured about the Ground Zero mosque, and — the cardinal sin — he mocked Palin.

correct and is why I am not giving him a pass. you forgot his soft 2nd amendment stand also. Christies youtube fame is a measure of our lack of leadership in our PC world. The thought of this lightweight being given serious consideration is beyond me. He talks about cutting spending yet his 1st budget was $400m more than Corzines last one. He is nothing but a blowhard. And if not for a couple fanboyz he would quickly sink into the backwater of politcs. He is a more refined Carl Palideno. a mafia gov. And he will not wear well as more people get to know who this ignorant man is.

unseen on December 8, 2010 at 12:17 AM

I figure this is from the Star Ledger from that East Coast paradise known as Newark. So forgive me if I laugh and point because when Newark’s newspaper complains about the Democrat mess Christie is trying to fix it reminds me of similar complainers in Harlem who cheer Orenthal James Rangel’s triumphal return for beating the rap of a different sort.

viking01 on December 8, 2010 at 12:19 AM

My theory is that he’s like Reagan in a crucial respect — namely, he’s a warrior when it comes to the core conservative concern of his era, which buys him a lot of leeway on other important yet lesser issues.

not even close. the reason is people have seen his youtube vids on fiscal matters, rush has played them up they went viral. his lesser known stands on issues like illegal immigration GZM, 2nd amendment, abortion flip-flop etc are just not well known yet. Once his real record gets out he will lose support quickly. He is all flash and many people simply don’t know who he really is yet.

And that is the big difference between Christie and Palin. the more you get to know the two the latter you like better while the former you like less. I was a supporter of Christie’s until I did some research. i quickly checked my support at the door once I knew who he really was.

unseen on December 8, 2010 at 12:22 AM

Nah. Christie just bores me at this point. Not worthy of a flame war.

Norwegian on December 7, 2010 at 11:23 PM

Christie is minor league. Anyone that thinks Castle is a small government conservative doesn’t know what the hell he is talking about. and I agree he is boring a one trick pony. Next he will be yelling at nuns….

unseen on December 8, 2010 at 12:25 AM

Sorry but Reagan wasn’t perfect either. He did vote for tax increases as Governor of California. Christie is popular because he speaks the truth and DOES it. I am more libertarian anyway so the social moderation doesn’t bug me anyway.

closetgop on December 8, 2010 at 12:47 AM

He is nothing but a blowhard. And if not for a couple fanboyz he would quickly sink into the backwater of politcs. He is a more refined Carl Palideno. a mafia gov. And he will not wear well as more people get to know who this ignorant man is.

unseen on December 8, 2010 at 12:17 AM

Lame. And inaccurate.

MikeknaJ on December 8, 2010 at 12:54 AM

I am from NJ and voted for the man. He is 1000% better than anyone we have ever had in this state but I must say that I think many, many people are going to be disappointed when they know more about Christie. He is riding a wave here but he is NOT a Reagan conservative. He supports a Cap and Tax scheme here in NJ, he refuses to add NJ to the lawsuit fighting the mandates in Obamacare, he is anti-gun, he is squishy on immigration, he is fine with the Mosque, he backed Castle and on and on. Yes, he is great with giving it to the unions but that is ALL anyone hears about..even in this state. I mean I have heard NOTHING about anything else…EVER. Isn’t that weird. Just today I heard that he was signing a big law. Turned out it was about head injuries in sports. Heh? Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want kids getting hurt, but we have heard about the Teachers unions constantly and about NOTHING else. Isn’t there something else he might want to do in this state? Just saying..prepare for a let down.

Dan Pet on December 8, 2010 at 1:02 AM

I was a supporter of Christie’s until I did some research. i quickly checked my support at the door once I knew who he really was.

unseen

Unseen just read your post after just posting mine. As usual you are dead on. We might need massive GROUP THERAPY when conservatives across the country learn everything there is to know about Mr. Christie. Again, I voted for him..and he is better than most we have had but Reagan he ain’t!!!

Dan Pet on December 8, 2010 at 1:06 AM

Christie is simply unelectable to higher office because of his weight problem. Even Congressman Jerry Nadler (D-NY), who was pushing 400 pounds at one time, lost weight.

Emperor Norton on December 8, 2010 at 1:07 AM

While I may and probably will disagree with Christie’s solutions to various problems I appreciate that he is pointing them out rather than slinking away under the typical guise of political correctness.

viking01 on December 8, 2010 at 1:12 AM

I think it’s the fact that most of the “transgressions” are a big deal because we’re all paranoid that the Republicans will betray us again.

But with Christe we know he’s actually out there fighting for us on the front lines.

So he gets a pass.

Sackett on December 8, 2010 at 1:17 AM

Christe is cheating. Doesn’t he know he is suppose to grant the lefties moral superiority.

//sarc

Slowburn on December 8, 2010 at 2:27 AM

So AP gets an e-mail from a Palin nut–obviously “unseen” or someone of a similarly delusional disposition–BEGGING him to provide an opportunity to “dump all over” Chris Christie.

CC’s big offense? He, like the overwhelming majority of citizens of this country, doubts that Palin is presidential material. Yeah, let’s hate him for having a friggin’ brain.

Just proves how nasty and petty Sarah’s kool-aid drinkers are. And how far HA has sunk to grant the request of a thin-skinned worshipper of the even more thin-skinned Palin.

Meredith on December 8, 2010 at 4:03 AM

I would love to see Chris Christie go one-on-one with Pelosi in a debate.

He would have her cowering under her podium whimpering like a little girl in less than two minutes.

pilamaye on December 8, 2010 at 5:24 AM

Nice try AP on the Reagan comparison but that’s an epic failure to launch.

When you follow and judge Christie on the issues rather than the You Tube videos a picture of a major RINO emerges. The videos are getting old and they seem to accomplish nothing but stoking Christie’s big ego.

But it also seems Christie is starting to be revealed as a RINO with no real accomplishments – in the meantime, NJ continues to decline.

Done That on December 8, 2010 at 5:45 AM

I would like to see both governors debate accepted ideological opponents on TV from time to time. I don’t mean a full fledged debate, just as the Right side advocate of a current topic on a news program. It would be great to see if both are as good in real life as they are on Facebook or against random state employees or hapless media.

Cindy Munford on December 8, 2010 at 7:33 AM

So if he wants to back Castle over O’Donnell, eh. It’s dismissed as a personal quirk, irritating yet non-fatal. If anyone else had done it, look out.

There are two truths that are the foundation for this entire post;

1)allah is a liberal and he thinks conservatives should not be allowed to forcefully stand up to rude liberals. They’re universe just doesn’t work that way, liberals do and say what they want and conservatives should be submissive and behave.

2) His conservative readers are so limited that they cannot analyze a politician in his entirety and weigh the pros and cons of all a politicians positions, personality and quirks. The conservative base is stupid in the liberals universe.

peacenprosperity on December 8, 2010 at 7:38 AM

So anyone on the Left who constantly whines about how we need more money for schools and then wants to cut school funds in any budget cut gets a pass… but the guy who criticizes those in the system for sponsoring a corrupt political payback system that doesn’t educate children well, at all, gets hit as a ‘bully’?

Let me get this straight: sponsoring corrupting political schemes for schools, government unionized workers, roads, bridges, tunnels, and other things is fine, but criticizing them by pointing out how inefficient they are and how they create a sanctified and unfireable political class that you can’t vote out is ‘bullying’?

Say what?

He hasn’t decertified the public unions yet, has he?

What will the Left do when that happens? A meltdown and claim he is some sort of a fascist and that death camps are right around the corner? These aristocrats need to be put on the spot and tossed from the system… that isn’t ‘bullying’ by any mark save the Left who want that class to control you, your money, your children and your life.

ajacksonian on December 8, 2010 at 7:42 AM

peacenprosperity on December 8, 2010 at 7:38 AM

While I am sure I fall in to your specified category of being unable to judge a politician in their totality, it still isn’t good to label the voters stupid. They tend to get rowdy.

Cindy Munford on December 8, 2010 at 7:46 AM

Lighten up, Francis.

Christie has to deal with these union-thuggish losers every day – constantly whining, constantly insulting him, constantly trying to play “gotcha” (a tax-hike supporting Republican? LOL. Nice try, libs). And the press joins in.

He’s responding to them – all of them – with no more than they deserve.

A hearty “thank you for your concern – now STFD and STFU.”

I can understand the “the optics are beginning to get old” concern. The whining about consistently responding to the idiocy that put that state in its current hole with force, tenacity and opposition – regardless of where it comes from? Not so much.

Good Lt on December 8, 2010 at 7:51 AM

Meredith on December 8, 2010 at 4:03 AM

I guess you were wrong, I don’t see any nasty thin skinned palanistas on here. I pretty sure Palin is not thinned skinned herself, she would have stayed out of politics all yr if she was. lol

tinkerthinker on December 8, 2010 at 7:52 AM

it still isn’t good to label the voters stupid.

Did Christie do that?

Or did he say that the idea that raising taxes on New Jersians is a bad idea and is counter-productive to job creation?

I think you need to look at what he said in the video.

People are whining about the style here, not the substance.

Good Lt on December 8, 2010 at 7:55 AM

Did Christie do that?

Or did he say that the idea that raising taxes on New Jersians is a bad idea and is counter-productive to job creation?

I think you need to look at what he said in the video.

People are whining about the style here, not the substance.

Good Lt on December 8, 2010 at 7:55 AM

And, of course, if you’re talking about what the commenter said instead of what’s in the video, then my apologies. :-)

Good Lt on December 8, 2010 at 8:01 AM

Good points, AP and I think you are correct overall. We didn’t see how the citizen behaved in this clip that may have set CC off. However, you gotta remember it’s Jersey. CC didn’t have the state troopers kneecap the guy. He then offered his hand. Maybe CC is just fed up with big spending whiners who ask gotcha questions so he stomped this guy verbally. Nipped it in the bud. I used to live in Jersey (and loved it, but not the taxes). This could be considered polite behavior there. I don’t see CC as a bully (yet at least) so much as a normal Jersey guy who is fed the freak up with big spending and ain’t gonna tolerate punks asking gotcha questions or whining about “the children” etc.

JimP on December 8, 2010 at 8:17 AM

Good Lt on December 8, 2010 at 7:55 AM

No, Darlin, I was talking to peacenprosperity.

Cindy Munford on December 8, 2010 at 8:20 AM

Christie has to deal with these union-thuggish losers every day – constantly whining, constantly insulting him, constantly trying to play “gotcha”

Poor Christie, why did he get forced into becoming governor? Why are his filthy peasant subjects questioning him?

(a tax-hike supporting Republican? LOL. Nice try, libs).

LOL, can you imagine? Not wanting tax cuts you can’t afford? LOL NICE TRY IDIOTS.

He’s responding to them – all of them – with no more than they deserve.

I imagine they’ll respond to him in the next election with no more than he deserves.

A hearty “thank you for your concern – now STFD and STFU.”

Yeah, shut up, constituents. Sit down. Nobody wants to hear you and your “concerns.” That’ll teach you to question your betters in public.

I can understand the “the optics are beginning to get old” concern.

Good Lt on December 8, 2010 at 7:51 AM

Yeah, the optics getting old is the big issue here.

Proud Rino on December 8, 2010 at 8:22 AM

Again, I voted for him..and he is better than most we have had but Reagan he ain’t!!!

Dan Pet on December 8, 2010 at 1:06 AM

Don’t feel bad if I lived in NJ i would have voted for him over Corzine also but then that does not make him a conservative at all just better than corzine which isn’t saying much…

unseen on December 8, 2010 at 8:23 AM

More information is needed before we can decide about the guy Christie dismissed. Maybe he had been making a pest of himself.

Huckabee and Romney aren’t viable candidates no matter what they do and if there is a God, please let him send Gingrich back home and make him stay there with his mouth shut. He’s already done more damage to our country than even Obama.

erp on December 8, 2010 at 8:28 AM

Meredith on December 8, 2010 at 4:03 AM

ROFL…..your Palin hate is not staring to make you see monsters under the bed…..

or and as far as hate If I would you I would check your post. i have yet to see a more hatful post on this thread.

Palin-haters like you never fail to surprise me at the level of their hate.

Oh and Btw I didn’t email Allah because I don’t really care about christie at the national level. I know he is just a one trick pony and blowhard, who is not a threat to conservative candidates. In fact it would take about 5 mins for anyone with a brain to figure out he is nothing but a big a really big RINO.

for you it seems to take a little bit longer….I wonder why..

unseen on December 8, 2010 at 8:29 AM

He would have her cowering under her podium whimpering like a little girl in less than two minutes.

pilamaye on December 8, 2010 at 5:24 AM

oh the big bad man can make the little girl cry….yeah the “optics” on that one will gain him a lot of votes.

unseen on December 8, 2010 at 8:30 AM

People are whining about the style here, not the substance.

Good Lt on December 8, 2010 at 7:55 AM

Oh really? Hmmm let’s see who else is attacked on style and not substance on a 24/7 cycle?

Oh and btw People are attacking Christie on both substance and style. He is a blowhard and a RINO. see style and substance…….

unseen on December 8, 2010 at 8:34 AM

Yeah, the optics getting old is the big issue here.

Proud Rino on December 8, 2010 at 8:22 AM

unless you forgot the /s tag I have to disagree. It’s more than the optics its the one trick same old same old. whenever Christie tries to pivot onto a different policy he puts his foot in his mouth be it the midterms with Castle, his gun grapping, climate change, GZM fiasco, illegal immagration.

Hell when he did his “get in their face thing” with Meg whitman voters I think it cost her the election. After that event Meg’s poll numbers dropped like a stone.

He plays well for the immature fanboyz on the web but other then that his reach is very small and he turns away as many votes with his style as he attracts and opens himself up to massive counterattacks by the dems. And those that kind of like his style at first after taking a closer look at him flee from his rinoish ways….

Can he piovot away form being a bully to being a national level headed candidate or will he remain a divisive and polarizing arch action hero to the NE fanboyz….I don’t se e him turning in his “superhero cap” and thus he will never be a national figure with real power. Just a small bit regional popculture figure.

maybe he can play in “Lean on me 2″

unseen on December 8, 2010 at 8:44 AM

so he is a typical New Jersey citizen. Surprise!

pgrossjr on December 8, 2010 at 9:15 AM

No, Darlin, I was talking to peacenprosperity.
Cindy Munford on December 8, 2010 at 8:20 AM

Cindy, you do realize I was be pointing out what I believe is the viewpoint the wanna-be puppetmaster allah and not stating my beliefs? allah is a liberal new yorker, I have them in my family. They believe that beyond the tri-state area the country is populated by neanderthals.

peacenprosperity on December 8, 2010 at 9:23 AM

More information is needed before we can decide about the guy Christie dismissed.

And by the way, that is the excepted narrative of the propagandists that allah is parroting. Watch the video, the meeting was over. The guy had is say, Christie responded, and then Christie wrapped up the meeting. Why do “conservatives” constantly refuse to believe their own eyes and swallow hook line and sinker the leftist narratives?

peacenprosperity on December 8, 2010 at 9:27 AM

I agree Allahpundit. You pick your batttles and grin and bear that you dislike. Another point, the Reagans of this world can be approached and possibly convinced to change their position on such issues if desired or necessary. I have yet to find a far Left progressive or even for that matter, a far Right ideologue, to be so inclined. But usually one can reason and discuss issues with a Righty in a more civil exchange. I recently had a discussion with two highly educated progressives and finally gave up and walked away since they refused to even acknowledge that the public school system in our county had any problems.

amr on December 8, 2010 at 9:32 AM

peacenprosperity on December 8, 2010 at 9:23 AM

Sorry, I think I did because of the “his conservative” readers portion. I did indeed misunderstand.

Cindy Munford on December 8, 2010 at 9:32 AM

Sorry, I think I did because of the “his conservative” readers portion. I did indeed misunderstand.
Cindy Munford on December 8, 2010 at 9:32 AM

No apology necessary, Cindy. You are constant and principled and I knew you misunderstood my not worded so clearly post (although my opposition to our squishy moderators is no secret). I hope you are keeping warm this morning. It did not get as cold here in Jax Beach as it was supposed to so I’m hoping my hibiscus survived.

peacenprosperity on December 8, 2010 at 9:35 AM

They believe that beyond the tri-state area the country is populated by neanderthals.

peacenprosperity on December 8, 2010 at 9:23 AM

If you throw in DC and the westcoast I would agree with you. they do not believe in majority rule nor have any faith in democracy or a republic form of government. they only believe in rule by the elite with the elite being them.

unseen on December 8, 2010 at 9:37 AM

unless you forgot the /s tag I have to disagree

I was being sarcastic. I think the problem is that Christie seems to think that because he’s getting some positive press by yelling at people, that’s how he should lead, by berating people, and then not letting them respond and then having a state trooper escort them off stage after you invited them on stage in the first place.

He’s not just intolerant of dissenting views, he simply can’t believe how anyone could possibly disagree with him, and he has no patience for anyone’s contrary opinion. Reminds me a lot of McCain. I’d never vote for this guy for the same reason I’ve never voted for McCain, the idea of disagreeing with him simply doesn’t cross his mind.

That’s not leadership.

Proud Rino on December 8, 2010 at 9:39 AM

He’s not just intolerant of dissenting views

stupidity, he’s intolerant of corruption and submission to gangster unions.

I fixed it fer ya,squishy.

peacenprosperity on December 8, 2010 at 9:41 AM

Reminds me a lot of McCain.
Proud Rino on December 8, 2010 at 9:39 AM

It reminds me of Obama and liberals in general. There is nothing wrong with thinking your ideas are the best ideas, there is something wrong with those that want to shut off debate. If you think your ideas are best debate them and if you get the people on your side them put them into practice.

The dems thught Obamacare was great they rammed it through against the majority of people who thought it wasn’t. They did not win the agrument they won the process. which creates division not unity. Christie acts the same way.

Say what you want about Gov Palin she engages in the debate and attempts to win hearts and minds to her policies. She has never used raw power to win a debate. And her way is working as more and more people think her polices match up with their thinking.

unseen on December 8, 2010 at 9:47 AM

“..his combativeness is counterproductive and breeds the kind of hate speech that plaques the nation.”

This seems the takeaway quote to me, pretty typical of liberal views on speech, and pretty twisted and chilling.

To the editorial board, Christie’s outspokenness is responsible for “hate speech” (whatever that term means).

rrpjr on December 8, 2010 at 9:53 AM

peacenprosperity on December 8, 2010 at 9:35 AM

I don’t think it is as cold as last year. I just finished 1776 (talk about slow to party) and I think it’s safe to say that N.Y. have been long standing squishes.

Cindy Munford on December 8, 2010 at 9:55 AM

Like I have said here before, less talk-y, more do-ey. He needs to start delivering on all he has promised. When he starts delivering, then I will be cheering him again. But this is just more of the same.

ramrants on December 7, 2010 at 10:25 PM

He’s not delivering?

I was under the impression that he was delivering quite a bit.

?

Midas on December 8, 2010 at 10:30 AM

Hey, candy-a$$-RINO-guy,

The reason Christie has to do so much fighting, is that there’s so much to fight!

I think we need to guard against the complacency of where we are. The “diminishing returns” are just returns to a norm many find unacceptable. It’s the norm that needs to be not just changed, but exploded (of course, in a non-violent way).

Pablo Snooze on December 8, 2010 at 10:32 AM

We already had a big discussion about this yesterday when it was linked to in the news section. I don’t want to repeat myself so people can just look at that if they want.

keepinitreal on December 8, 2010 at 10:46 AM

Until tubby does right by Brian Aitken, he has no chance on the national stage.

warden on December 8, 2010 at 11:07 AM

“rude questioner” deserved what he got. I like Palin and I like Cristie. I have little problem with him poking at her, or her poking at him — I just hope it doesn’t get to the point where their common causes are affected.

unclesmrgol on December 8, 2010 at 11:17 AM

It’s mighty entertaining, but I confess, the sheer contrivance of it is starting to wear on me. We get it: Christie’s an alpha dog willing to utter the unpleasant truths that lesser pols don’t dare to say. When he told off that reporter last year, it was magical; when he went after that schoolteacher who was whining about pay cuts, it was glorious. But there’s a new confrontational “moment” seemingly every three days now, which is starting to make them feel less spontaneous and more performed. Pretty soon he’ll be belching in union executives’ faces and then high-fiving his staff. Which, admittedly, would be hilarious, but still — we’re nearing the point of diminishing returns, I think.

This is all true. I’d have to say, though, that people whining about Chris Christie the bully will get old even faster.

He may well be too confrontational, which may wind up hurting him politically. Maybe he just needs to pass up a few of these and only destroy those who really deserve it.

His confrontational style I think actually hurt Fiorina — or was it Whitman — in California, when he jumped in to “destroy” a questioner rather than let the candidate answer it. He may have meant well that time, but it made her look weak and ineffectual.

All that said, I like both Christie and Palin. I can’t say I’m looking or hoping for payback.

tom on December 8, 2010 at 1:26 PM

This guy (click on link) is SECOND, at best.

RegularJoe on December 8, 2010 at 2:32 PM

The Star-Ledger editorial board consists of a bunch of whiny sore losers! They wouldn’t know a fiscally responsible government from an entrenching tool!

They were the idiots who endorsed Christ Daggett, a stalking horse “Independent” candidate for Jon Corzine, who proposed to hike our sales taxes through the roof by including currently exempted services and flipping a portion of it back in the form of property tax relief.

THAT is what the Star-Ledger thinks a tax reduction plan is! In the end, the Democrats got caught promoting Daggett’s candidacy in Republican areas, which was done in order to try to kill Christie’s chances. Fortunately it failed.

Governor Chris Christie is only seen as a bully by those who game the State government system for personal gain, and their enablers – the Star-Ledger. They never saw a liberal program whey wouldn’t praise, or a liberal politician they wouldn’t endorse.

Chris Christie is daily exposing the grubbers for exactly what they are. And he does it thorough a public debate forum.

And he doesn’t hesitate to needle them a bit too, even when he succeeds in getting them to talk about HIS issues.

It makes the Democrat-liberal establishment crazy.
So, I say Go Chris!

And while I’m at it, I say GO Sarah, too.

They both represent a new form of anti-wimp Republicanism. I’m all for both of them taking the fight to the grubbers!

I haven’t waited all these years to witness a few Republicans with real gumption, each ready to stand up and take it to the bad guys, only to have some pundit attempt to turn it into a personality contest.

Trochilus on December 8, 2010 at 4:50 PM

Chris Christie has done an amazing job in New Jersey. It bugs me no end that people have to take pot shots at the man just because they are rooting for someone else.

Boxy_Brown on December 8, 2010 at 5:57 PM