Jim DeMint: I’ll vote to filibuster the tax cuts deal

posted at 8:48 pm on December 7, 2010 by Allahpundit

From today’s Hugh Hewitt radio show, with audio via Breitbart. It’s mainly a symbolic gesture, as most observers — Mitch McConnell included — seem to think the votes are there in the Senate:

They expect several defections from the right flank of their party. Sens. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) and Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) have expressed concern about extending the jobless benefits without paying for them. Sen. Jim Bunning (R-Ky.), as the first Republican to wage this fight earlier this year, could also go against the deal…

Still, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) emerged upbeat from the party’s Tuesday luncheon. McConnell has been very successful at keeping in line, and his central role in the talks only boosts his incentive to produce a strong showing.

“I’m very hopeful and optimistic that the large majority of members of the Republican conference will find this proposal worth supporting and I’m hopeful that Democratic leaders will be able to convince their members as well that this is the way to go forward, the right thing to do under these circumstances,” McConnell said.

“The agreement is essentially final,” McConnell added.

In addition to the 10 Democrats I named in this afternoon’s post, it sounds like Bill Nelson, Tom Carper, Evan Bayh and even Chris Coons are also willing to vote yes. Assuming DeMint, Coburn, and Bunning all vote no, that still leaves Reid needing fewer than 10 more Democrats to push the deal through. Between the impending deadline when the old rates will go into effect and pressure from Biden to spare the White House the humiliation of seeing the deal collapse, they’ll find the votes.

DeMint lists several problems he has with the deal, but the big one is the fact that the cuts are temporary. Quote: “[W]e don’t need a temporary economy, which means we don’t need a temporary tax rate. A permanent extension of our current tax rates would allow businesses to plan five and ten years in advance, and that’s how you build an economy.” How are you going to get the Democrats to agree to a permanent extension of all the Bush tax cuts? The left is ready to commit seppuku over a two-year extension; if Obama tried to push something permanent, anger would be such that even Blue Dogs in the Senate would walk away for fear of being primaried. And Obama himself would have a full-scale revolt on his hands among the left instead of the whining and idle primary fantasies they’re indulging in now. It’s one thing to push permanent cuts when you have a Republican president and congressional majority (although, as recent history shows, even then it’s not easy), but with a liberal in the White House and a 58-42 spread in the Senate? C’mon. Exit question: Can Pelosi deliver for Obama among House Democrats? The AP sounds skeptical.


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it’s opposition to the tax cuts for the top percent, with the right it’s DeMint’s opposition to extending benefits when we’ve got 9.8% unemployment.

you do know that even libs like krugman acknowledge that unemployment benefits raises the unemployment rate, right? why get a job ‘below your dignity’ when you can live off the dole?

right4life on December 7, 2010 at 10:10 PM

Oh for Christ’s sake. At the moment the GOP doesn’t control either chamber of Congress or the White House. They had all three until 2006 and couldn’t get these tax rates made permanent then. In January the GOP will only control one of these entities, Obama will have had a month to grow a backbone, and clowns like Demint think they could work out a better deal? ARE YOU F’ING HIGH?

What the Hell, let’s just continue to let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

Dukeboy01 on December 7, 2010 at 10:11 PM

What the Hell, let’s just continue to let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

Dukeboy01 on December 7, 2010 at 10:11 PM

true, but then why compromise with the devil (ie the dems). its time to throw bi-partisanship out the window and take no prisoners…we’re in deep, deep trouble…

right4life on December 7, 2010 at 10:13 PM

Vyce on December 7, 2010 at 10:05 PM

The ‘rich’ are the ones that create businesses that hire people like me. Giving them tax cuts gives them more capital to do just that.
I want a job-not a handout.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 7, 2010 at 10:14 PM

He has a base too, and his base will go utterly berserk if he does.

Allahpundit on December 7, 2010 at 8:57 PM

They reached that status a long time ago.

Schadenfreude on December 7, 2010 at 10:20 PM

Quote: “[W]e don’t need a temporary economy, which means we don’t need a temporary tax rate. A permanent extension of our current tax rates would allow businesses to plan five and ten years in advance, and that’s how you build an economy.”

He is right. This bill will bring nothing new– who wants to work hard/expand/start a business knowing in two years there is a huge tax hike looming? Same ole…the economy will stay just like it is and the lefties will be able to say the extensions didn’t work.

tinkerthinker on December 7, 2010 at 10:21 PM

Why is it that, next to liberals, some of the most frustrating jerks are my fellow conservatives?

flataffect on December 7, 2010 at 10:22 PM

ouch, just flipped to msdnc, the libs are NOT happy with dear leader…one of them just called him barack hoover obama…

that’s gonna leave a mark

heh

cmsinaz on December 7, 2010 at 10:26 PM

I understand DeMint’s oppposition to adding UI benefits to the deficit instead of finding other items in the budget to offset them BUT, it appears that the majority of what has been proposed is a win for capitalism. Heck, who really believes that McConnell wouldn’t have agreed to the UI as a stand alone next wk?

Gohawgs on December 7, 2010 at 10:26 PM

Can Pelosi deliver for Obama among House Democrats?

yes, they will follow him kicking and screaming, but she will deliver….

cmsinaz on December 7, 2010 at 10:28 PM

ted c on December 7, 2010 at 9:01 PM

That was good…and funny too!

LMAO!!

belad on December 7, 2010 at 10:29 PM

McConnell … stop being so addictive to the limelight.

TheAlamos on December 7, 2010 at 9:35 PM

Heh. How telling it is that you say that, when DeMint is the one grandstanding here.

Vyce on December 7, 2010 at 10:06 PM

Grandstanding you say? So … anyone who has a dissenting opinion should just SHUT HIS MOUTH.

Yeah, quite telling.

And YES. McConnell after the R victory in the House has immediately changed his body language back to his old ways. Pandering on everything … for the sake of bipartisanship.

DeMint great at symbolic gestures an grandstanding. And that’s about all he is doing here.

swamp_yankee on December 7, 2010 at 9:51 PM

Among other people here, swamp, I’m expecting better comments from you, you being an RS regular.

Economy-wise, the bill is wrong. Same tax rate (no new revenues) but increase in expenditure (extension is originally unfunded.)

Politically-wise, it’s a plus to Obama.

TheAlamos on December 7, 2010 at 10:30 PM

ouch, just flipped to msdnc, the libs are NOT happy with dear leader…one of them just called him barack hoover obama…

that’s gonna leave a mark

heh

cmsinaz on December 7, 2010 at 10:26 PM

just as long as they are “not happy” we’re good. He’ll be in trouble when they hit “berserk.”

categories.

ted c on December 7, 2010 at 10:31 PM

DeMint and McConnell playing good cop – bad cop?

One thing is for sure, the Democrats are really lousy at playing “Chicken”

Reminds me of a SONG

Dr Evil on December 7, 2010 at 10:33 PM

ted c on December 7, 2010 at 10:31 PM

:)

cmsinaz on December 7, 2010 at 10:35 PM

And Obama himself would have a full-scale revolt on his hands among the left instead of the whining and idle primary fantasies they’re indulging in now.

you know how dictators handle revolts?

nevermind…

ted c on December 7, 2010 at 10:45 PM

Politically-wise, it’s a plus to Obama.

TheAlamos on December 7, 2010 at 10:30 PM

That last line is telling. Some people purely see this as political gamesmanship. But the elections are two years aways and people are suffering now.

What good is minor dent in Obama’s armor if the cost is Bush’s tax cuts lapsing?

Here’s a fact – Obama is never, ever, ever, ever going to sign a permanent extension for Bush cuts, nor is he going to to sign a bill with Reaganesque tax cuts, nor is he going to sign any other kind of bill withnew tax cuts. Dems have the White House and Senate for two more years. This imaginary leverage is just that, imaginary.

If the lefties go nuts, and the conservatives go nuts, they might get their filibuster and everyone will go home for the holidays, and they will talk, and it wont be Obama who is public enemy No. 1.

As people sit with their families, worrying about their future, (desperate, unemployed, or concerned) they will lament the impending tax hike that is about to slap them in the face, courtesy of DeMint and Bernie Sanders.

DeMint better be grandstanding because he will be public enemy, not Obama.

swamp_yankee on December 7, 2010 at 10:47 PM

Grandstanding you say? So … anyone who has a dissenting opinion should just SHUT HIS MOUTH.

Yeah, quite telling.

TheAlamos on December 7, 2010 at 10:30 PM

Strawman. I never stated DeMint doesn’t have the right to say whatever assinine thing he wants (and it certainly is a right he exercises with frequency).

I did point out, however, that people who complain of McConnell desiring the limelight ought to take a look at their pal Jim, because he’s certainly rubbing shoulders with Mitch on THAT score.

Vyce on December 7, 2010 at 10:47 PM

3 YEARS OF UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS?

Why not 4 years of Benees?

Why not 5 years of Benees?

Why not 6 years of Benees?

This is a complete national disgrace, to match the political Progressive agenda in D.C.

PappyD61 on December 7, 2010 at 9:23 PM

FOR THE LAST TIME, it is not three years. The program as is would be extended for another 13 months.
You currently can get up to 79 weeks of unemployment and then another 20 weeks of Extended Benefits. The extended 20 weeks of benefits will end Dec.12, that is what is being decided upon now. That is what would be continued for another 13 months. That includes people currently receiving benefits as well as new applicants. Some people will actually lose benefits they currently are receiving if it is part of the extended benefits tier.

Deanna on December 7, 2010 at 10:55 PM

newsflash: ITS OUR OWN MONEY..no one is giving the ‘rich’ anything.

oh yeah we need a permanent dole like they have in britain…brilliant.

right4life on December 7, 2010 at 10:09 PM

The ‘rich’ are the ones that create businesses that hire people like me. Giving them tax cuts gives them more capital to do just that.
I want a job-not a handout.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 7, 2010 at 10:14 PM

Did I leave you with the impression that I’m against the tax cuts? Cause I’m not. I’m for extending them. Across the board.

Most Americans aren’t, though. Not for the rich, at least. And they don’t care about the factually accurate talking point about how “the rich are the ones who hire people, so giving them an incentive to hire is a plus” – most people still will entertain the old class warfare “rich people BAD!” opinion when it comes to extending the tax cuts for the “rich”.

Giving Obama an extension on unemployment benefits for tax cuts for two years for EVERYONE, is the BEST compromise you’re going to get. As swamp yankee pointed out, even next year, Republicans will NOT have the power necessary to win a battle against Obama on extending the tax cuts to the rich if this deal blows up and Obama and Senate Democrats dig in their heels on it. And they will have a majority of voters siding with them.

That’s what I’m getting at here. DeMint can give his little speeches all he wants, but does he SERIOUSLY want it to be the GOP message to be no to unemployment, yes to the rich?…..actually, I think that’s ABSOLUTELY the message he wants, which is why DeMint shouldn’t ever be the GOP leader in the Senate. But the point is, right now they’ve got a deal which is the best they’re going to get until a couple YEARS from now when they MIGHT have better Senate numbers and a new President, a deal which is something of a humilating captituation by Obama, and someone like DeMint is ready to piss it all away in some sort of ridiculous political puffery?

They’d better take the deal, if they’re smart. Otherwise, the narrative completely gets reversed, and the GOP will be on the “wrong” side of this EXTREMELY quickly when it is revisited next year.

Vyce on December 7, 2010 at 11:04 PM

I’m still trying to imagine how this is a winner.

Its the holidays. Its Christmas. The people are anxious and desperate about the economy. People are stretched thin just to buy presents. But its the holidays and people are in a generous and forgiving mood.

Adjourning Congress with no deal because of a filibuster means taxes for every single American will rise in 2011.

How is that a winner?

So we conservatives are supposed to go home and explain to everyone at the family, friend or work Christmas party and everyone on New Year’s Eve that we support all of their taxes going up for the new year because keeping their taxes low also meant extending unemployment benefits?

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

swamp_yankee on December 7, 2010 at 11:09 PM

So we conservatives are supposed to go home and explain to everyone at the family, friend or work Christmas party and everyone on New Year’s Eve that we support all of their taxes going up for the new year because keeping their taxes low also meant extending unemployment benefits?

Try it. I thought “principles” mattered to conservatives? DeMint has the political instincts of Paris Hilton. It’s funny watching Obama outmanouevring both the left *and* the right. Not bad for an ‘incompetent.’ Hehe.

Grow Fins on December 7, 2010 at 11:15 PM

It’s funny watching Obama outmanouevring both the left *and* the right. Not bad for an ‘incompetent.’ Hehe.

Grow Fins on December 7, 2010 at 11:15 PM

Riiight. His disapproval rating hit a new high on Gallup Daily Tracking today. Brilliant.

Norwegian on December 7, 2010 at 11:32 PM

It’s funny watching Obama outmanouevring both the left *and* the right. Not bad for an ‘incompetent.’ Hehe.

Grow Fins on December 7, 2010 at 11:15 PM
‘Outmaneuvered’?
Dude-Zero practically surrendered to the GOP.
Sucks to be him.
///sarc.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 7, 2010 at 11:38 PM

It’s funny watching Obama outmanouevring both the left *and* the right. Not bad for an ‘incompetent.’ Hehe.

Grow Fins on December 7, 2010 at 11:15 PM

yeah, he’s “outmaneuvering” them all right.

It’s precisely because he got rolled that he can’t compromise any further. He has a base too, and his base will go utterly berserk if he does.

Allahpundit on December 7, 2010 at 8:57 PM

ted c on December 7, 2010 at 11:46 PM

Look if you can’t find a job after 2 years you are no longer unemployed you are now a welfare case. extending “unemployment benifts” is just a way to have those welfare people avoid the stigma of being on the public dole. Call a spade a spade. And sign up those deadbeats for a welfare check. that is why its there.

unseen on December 7, 2010 at 8:59 PM

You understand the unemployment extension part of the deal as well as Michelle Bachman.

rjl1999 on December 7, 2010 at 11:52 PM

The White House is doing damage control tonight as “progressives” continue to lose their sh!t over the tax cut compromise. Obama released a special video message directed to his supporters a few hours ago. He all but pleads for understanding from the faithless wretches:

http://ace.mu.nu/

ted c on December 8, 2010 at 12:04 AM

This would be a dumb thing to do.

The unemployment thing isn’t what I thought at first. It doesn’t give the 99ers more weeks at all. It just lets more people get to the 99 weeks. I didn’t know that didn’t extend to everyone before. So for me this is nothing new at all.

That is if I am understanding it right this time…

The Republicans gave nothing. And they get the tax cuts, if they want them permenant then do it next year or the year after. But right now

GET THIS DONE!

petunia on December 8, 2010 at 12:10 AM

It’s funny watching Obama outmanouevring both the left *and* the right. Not bad for an ‘incompetent.’ Hehe.

Grow Fins on December 7, 2010 at 11:15 PM

You are delusional if you think Obama got anything at all.

The points he got, I was under the impression he got months ago.

When Obama explained this it sounded like he was allowing people to be unemployed for three years. But from what I’ve been reading tonight that isn’t it at all.

You could say Obama lied to his base. He got nothing. I can actually see why the left is so upset now. This was about as bad a deal as could be struck from their point of view.

petunia on December 8, 2010 at 12:14 AM

It’s a free filibuster for DeMint, who gets to throw some red meat to keep the more bloodthirsty of his fans without actually messing up the deal. His point about the deficit is valid objectively, but politically the Democrats still have majorities and the White House, so you have to give them something.

Obama has been thoroughly humiliated, in the election and the “negotiations” over this deal. After the GOP beat him up and urinated on his limp body in the street, they toss a few bucks onto the sidewalk so he has cab fare home. It’s the decent thing to do.

Adjoran on December 8, 2010 at 12:44 AM

Here’s a fact – Obama is never, ever, ever, ever going to sign a permanent extension for Bush cuts, nor is he going to to sign a bill with Reaganesque tax cuts, nor is he going to sign any other kind of bill withnew tax cuts.

Here’s another fact….Obama was never going to let these tax cuts expire. He bluffed, and Republicans blinked.

xblade on December 8, 2010 at 12:53 AM

The Republicans gave nothing. And they get the tax cuts.

No, they didn’t. Maintaining the same tax rate isn’t a tax cut. A 35% death tax is not a tax cut.

xblade on December 8, 2010 at 12:58 AM

The republicans should have:

1. Let the “tax cuts for the rich” expire with “the rich” bar raised to $5 or $10mil…
2. Killed extending unemployment benefits… enough already.
3. Made a permanent cut to the payroll tax.

The GOP has got to wake up and get smarter about their politics. They have to be the party of the (upper) middle class economically and not just culturally.

ninjapirate on December 8, 2010 at 1:03 AM

The GOP has got to wake up and get smarter about their politics. They have to be the party of the (upper) middle class economically and not just culturally.

ninjapirate on December 8, 2010 at 1:03 AM

My family is just barely middle-class.
If those tax cuts expire we’re in trouble
There are working-class conservatives too.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 8, 2010 at 1:19 AM

The questions are.

1. Can DeMint physically keep talking till the end of the lame duck session?

2. Would the new republicans have bill’s ready to be put to the vote, on the first day of the new Session?

Slowburn on December 8, 2010 at 1:33 AM

If DeMint filibusterers this and it ends up blocking the extensions-he needs to be recalled.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 8, 2010 at 1:43 AM

There is no such thing as a permanent tax rate. It’s not worth the optics of reducing unemployment benefits right now in a deluded effort to try to get one. The tax is whatever the Congress at that time says it is. They even got away with retroactive taxes before.

pedestrian on December 8, 2010 at 3:14 AM

DeMint is right here, funny how so many so called conservatives here on HotAir actually think this compromise is going to solve anything.

DeMint is absolutely right when he says that making the tax cuts permanent will allow businesses to plan far into the future, what we have now is yet another short term remedy. It’s time people start thinking of the bigger picture here and realize that Obama is weak, so holding out at least until the next Congress is seated just makes SENSE.

Daemonocracy on December 8, 2010 at 3:59 AM

There are working-class conservatives too.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 8, 2010 at 1:19 AM

Yep. Me too, these days.

OmahaConservative on December 8, 2010 at 4:43 AM

Wonder if dingy harry will have the decency to have a public meltdown for our amusement?

OmahaConservative on December 8, 2010 at 5:03 AM

It’s time people start thinking of the bigger picture here and realize that Obama is weak, so holding out at least until the next Congress is seated just makes SENSE.

Daemonocracy on December 8, 2010 at 3:59 AM

If people thought big picture, they never would have elected a Dem House led by Nanny Botox, a Dem Senate led by Dingy Harry and a “Community Organizer” (read: paid activist) for PoTUS.

They used to teach economics as part of core curriculum in high schools, at least that’s what my parents told me.

Then came the 1960′s and the decline of public education due to infestation by progressives (both left and right), so that, within a generation, you develop a society (and voting public) completely ignorant of just where jobs and economic growth come from, unless they actually took economic courses as electives in high school (where available) or in college (as part of their major or as a pretty good elective to avoid becoming ignorant) to educate themselves and see that big picture.

So basically, you get what we have in this thread:

Ignorant (or lethargic) conservatives who, like most folks these days, demand instant gratification, consequences be damned, economically savvy conservatives trying to explain it to them (like teaching a rock how to swim) and a sprinkling of delusional lib trolls who think Obama’s won something here. (Perhaps not so delusional as splitting the right on this is a victory for Obama.)

Brass tacks: You make Obama own his perfect disaster of an economy, to please his base, then, when people are REALLY hurting and his numbers are in the low twenties and people recognize it’s HIM and a Dem Senate and House that got them there, next year, you can break the bozos backs and force them to pass cuts that will leave the left so disillusioned that they do all the beautifully stupid things we want them to do under one tidy principle: The Dems aren’t liberal enough, time to create their own movement to run against the Dems from the left.

The benefits of such, if they’re not instantly apparent to all are the splitting of the Democratic party into two camps: It’s unpopular current form and it’s even more unpopular admitted socialist form.

Split the Dem ticket from top to bottom in 2012 and have a more polished, savvy Tea Party driving the GOP into a solid right of center stance on fiscal policy and 2012 will see conservative GOP super-majorities in the House and Senate, ready to hand a conservative GOP PoTUS a stack of legislative overhauls on everything from reduction of the bloated federal government trough (time to introduce the lion’s share of federal redundancies in human resources to the private sector) to tort reform to tax reduction to levels unseen in a modern western nation.

All of the taxes: Payroll, death, capital gains (the Holy F’n Grail of tax cuts) income, the whole ball of wax.

Big picture: We’re a right of center country, time to start acting like one and legislating like one.

I’m getting so sick and tired of the damned Rockefeller wing of the GOP jumping at ANY excuse to vote like the Democrats they really are, and worse, convincing the ill-informed conservatives that it’s really a vote for “conservatism”.

This isn’t about power, this is about principle.

How about this for the socially liberal GOP members that think fiscal conservatism automatically equals social conservatism, which seems to be the driving (and irrational) fear that causes them to do stupid things like vote for Democrats: You help us put the economy in order, on a sound, fiscally conservative, pro-growth track and when we’re getting people back to work and off the damn dole, we’ll start negotiating your social issues?

Sound fair?

I promise you, you AREN’T going to get a better deal from the Dems. You may get what you want, socially, but you’re going to have your backs broken on everything else.

Worse than that, you’ll be taking the rest of the country with you for your own selfish desires that really aren’t priorities right now.

Contemplate this very carefully.

There are many of us that are open to compromise on social issues when the most pressing issues of the day are resolved, but the only way we’re going to get there is if you support us right now on economic reform.

Just remember: It wasn’t fiscal conservatives who got us here, it was your beloved “compassionate conservatives” and hard leftist Dems who got us here.

Give us a chance (and the votes) to fix the current mess and we can talk about everything else in due time.

SuperCool on December 8, 2010 at 6:23 AM

With this deal there is no motivation for companies to hire. O is just setting up the GOP for a “see I told you tax cuts for the rich don’t work.” This deal will come back to haunt the GOP in 2012. The anger at O by the left is contrived to portray him as a centrist for re-election purposes.

Done That on December 8, 2010 at 6:23 AM

Ah, as the ship is sinking, the official crew argues about which color paint can be seen best by any potential rescuers, rather than plugging the damned hole.

This is leadership? Full speed ahead and ignore those icebergs -such dangerous waters require that we speed through them fast.(actual argument made by the Titanic survivors in the hearings in Great Britain)

Don L on December 8, 2010 at 6:28 AM

‘incompetent.’ Hehe.

Grow Fins on December 7, 2010 at 11:15 PM

Dude. Obama could call a press conference and announce that he just took a crap and you would be here saying “brilliant!”

Gotta go with you on that “Obama-incompetent” tag. Ya nailed it.

BigAlSouth on December 8, 2010 at 6:43 AM

Obama spawned this liberal slime now they’re coming after him. Unfortunately, every one of us will be damaged by their incompetence and stupidity.

rplat on December 8, 2010 at 6:52 AM

Done That on December 8, 2010 at 6:23 AM

I’m inclined to agree with you. It’s theater. They’re all actors. The tax rates must be lowered even further and made permanent. Some must be eliminated completely, like the death tax and the alternate minimum tax. And Whats up with giving people money if they don’t owe any taxes at all, by way of tax credits?

That’s seriously wrong.

dogsoldier on December 8, 2010 at 6:57 AM

I’ve been wrong before but I’m beginning to think this was a brilliant strategy by the GOP. One of the biggest mantras has been the question of whether the GOP would be “willing to compromise”.

By agreeing on the extension of unemployment benefits this shows the GOP willing to meet in the middle but I think they know that the Dems will not vote for this since they are so angry with Obama.

Unfortunately, I think the current rates will expire but the new house will be able to put in a bill with teeth that will make a real difference in the long run, thus angering Barry’s base more than anyone thought.

In the end, I think we could end up with lower tax rates, no unfunded unemployment, and a severely weakened 2 years of the Obama regime.

gatorfanatic on December 8, 2010 at 7:31 AM

By the way, DeMint isn’t saying he’s against keeping the 99 week threshold for another 13 months.(Which is what this would do, not add more weeks to 99.) He says he wants to know how it will be paid for.

Deanna on December 8, 2010 at 7:52 AM

This deal is a failure… if you want jobs then let then raise the bar for who is defined as “rich” and let those taxes run out… kill the unemployment benefits… and make the payroll tax cut permanent.

ninjapirate on December 8, 2010 at 8:10 AM

Funny….you would have never thought the dems took a beating in November….Extending the unemp. benefits is outrageous,5-7 months at the max but another year?! It is going to take years to get rid of this ,”the gov’t will take care of me” mentality,if ever.This country did not become the greatest by being a welfare state.

ohiobabe on December 8, 2010 at 8:33 AM

Business knows it has 2 years to do what needs to be done for it to grow some, make a profit and get ready to watch the battle for its future happen again. There’s an old saying, make hay while the sun shines, so business should do just that for the next 2 years cuz waiting to see what this bunch in DC is going to do is not productive.

Kissmygrits on December 8, 2010 at 8:34 AM

The Democrats are having a temper tantrum over this.

kingsjester on December 8, 2010 at 8:42 AM

Methinks he’s also playing a game called “trump Palin.”

Seth Halpern on December 8, 2010 at 8:46 AM

Funny….you would have never thought the dems took a beating in November….Extending the unemp. benefits is outrageous,5-7 months at the max but another year?! It is going to take years to get rid of this ,”the gov’t will take care of me” mentality,if ever.This country did not become the greatest by being a welfare state.

ohiobabe on December 8, 2010 at 8:33 AM

You do know that it doesn’t mean adding another year of benefits, don’t you? It simply means keeping the maximum at 99 weeks for another year. The 79 week threshold will stay because it is law. The 99 weeks threshold, another 20 weeks added to the original 79, was only an extension and will expire Dec.12. But that’s what you meant, wasn’t it. And DeMint isn’t against it. He just wants to know how it will be funded.

Deanna on December 8, 2010 at 8:55 AM

No, this is cool. Let’s fight over the tax cuts and take up the last dying moments of the 111th’s time.

joeindc44 on December 8, 2010 at 9:44 AM

as in, this is something I mused on earlier, getting some Mavericks to join the DNC in a halfhearted fillibuster in order to drag this out.

joeindc44 on December 8, 2010 at 9:45 AM

There is no need for us to keep repeating Progressive spin.

What we get out of the deal is to push a punishing tax hike at least two years in the future. We didn’t prevent the Estate Tax from coming back, but it is reduced from what it would have been. Considering we’re the minority in both chambers of Congress, that’s not too bad. The bottom line here is, we’ve averted, or at least softened, another blow to a weakened economy.

The Social Security payroll tax cut and Unemployed Benefits extension will have to be paid for by the new Congress, when we have control of the House. We must fight to reduce the size and scope of the federal government then, but making the tax rates permanently lower will have to wait until 2013.

LarryD on December 8, 2010 at 10:11 AM

Good for Jim for sticking to his principles. A bit off-topic; was DeMint always this conservative?

hawksruleva on December 8, 2010 at 10:11 AM

as in, this is something I mused on earlier, getting some Mavericks to join the DNC in a halfhearted fillibuster in order to drag this out.

joeindc44 on December 8, 2010 at 9:45 AM

That’d be bad news for the economy. And this whole fight does little to cut government spending or intrusion into our lives.

hawksruleva on December 8, 2010 at 10:12 AM

Bravo!

This is the way you start reducing and cutting libprog programs. Choose your poison, progressives. Which ones go.

98ZJUSMC on December 8, 2010 at 10:14 AM

Then came the 1960′s and the decline of public education due to infestation by progressives (both left and right),

SuperCool on December 8, 2010 at 6:23 AM

Progressives are always left, even when they are infesting the Republican Party.

Slowburn on December 8, 2010 at 10:38 AM

First of all, is this guy’s name really de mint? How can we take him seriously. How about de dumb ass or de bonehead or de egomaniac or de ignoramous or just plain de jerk.

Yeah this is a good deal for Obama, but it is also a good deal for us. We need to really care about the economy and not just the politics of the situation. This deal will help the economy and the American people, we can get further tax reductions later; how bout our guys show some concern for the Average American now? DeMint is just pissed off now that the election is over and he is not getting as much press.

georgealbert on December 8, 2010 at 10:43 AM

The only principles DeMint has are those associated with his personal well being

georgealbert on December 8, 2010 at 10:44 AM

I salute DeMint for this decision.

Although extending the tax cuts is a sweet victory – it should not come at the cost of spending money we do not have to extend unemployment benefits out to what? Three? Four years now?

That’s money our kids don’t have. Sorry – we’re broke. When you’re broke – you don’t spend any money.

But not only that – but no attempt, not even a half-assed attempt – was made to pay for this extension. How about defund NPR? How about defund NEA? Are the Democrats saying that it’s better for our progeny to drown in the debt they’re creating now than to try some simple, even symbolic, cuts to try to reduce this deficit? I’m sure defunding NPR and NEA won’t pay for the extension – but there are other things we could cut too – and at least it would show some seriousness about cutting the deficit.

Why are we even talking about this? Congress passed a “pay as you go” bill months ago.

HondaV65 on December 8, 2010 at 10:47 AM

First of all, is this guy’s name really de mint? How can we take him seriously.
georgealbert on December 8, 2010 at 10:43 AM

Did someone get a new copy of Rules for Radicals for Christmas?

Fallon on December 8, 2010 at 11:20 AM

Good for DeMint.

Symbolism meaning matters.

The weenie Republicans REQUIRE someone to blame for their own lack of organization, rarely coalescing in a unified block vote.

Successful or not per battle, despite fickle support from the vocal John Adams, George Washington never gave up the fight for “The Grand Cause”. Begin on platform. Live and learn, make your demands for necessities heard and given proper response from Congress, and never quit.

maverick muse on December 8, 2010 at 11:23 AM

The only principles DeMint has are those associated with his personal well being

georgealbert

Yes, true enough of any Washingtonian. But DeMint integrates his conservative image with his personal well being.

maverick muse on December 8, 2010 at 11:28 AM

How are you going to get the Democrats to agree to a permanent extension of all the Bush tax cuts? The left is ready to commit seppuku over a two-year extension; if Obama tried to push something permanent, anger would be such that even Blue Dogs in the Senate would walk away for fear of being primaried.

You say that like it’s a bad thing.

It may be hard to push Democrats for a permanent extension, but I would love to see Blue Dog Democrats get primaried. The only hope these liberal Democrats have for power is Blue Dog Democrats willing to go along with them. Primarying Blue Dog Democrats will mean a bunch of liberal Democrats running in conservative districts, and the further loss of seats for the Democrats.

Eventually, the Democrats will get the message that liberal politics doesn’t sell. That fact has been obscured by pretenses in the Clinton administration of being “New Democrats,” and by recruiting Blue Dog Democrats in 2006 and 2008. Until that gambit fails, they won’t get the message that the liberal Democrats’s day is done.

tom on December 8, 2010 at 12:51 PM

Jim Demint in the frontrunner REAL conservatives have been waiting for.

The Dems let their COMMIE show being against keeping the tax rate where it is. I’m convinced all of them are economically illiterate.

Gob on December 8, 2010 at 1:06 PM

Daemonocracy on December 8, 2010 at 3:59 AM

THNAK YOU…you get it.

Try it. I thought “principles” mattered to conservatives? DeMint has the political instincts of Paris Hilton. It’s funny watching Obama outmanouevring both the left *and* the right. Not bad for an ‘incompetent.’ Hehe.

Grow Fins on December 7, 2010 at 11:15 PM

Ugh. Can’t your latest in pretzel-logic just have the denizens here at HA FINALLY understand that you are dreadfully mentally ill and there in no use in even responding to you? Either that or you are the world’s best contrarian who just wants to agitate. You have been proven idiotic a long, long time ago.

Gob on December 8, 2010 at 1:44 PM

Palin to enter the fray in support of DeMint?

Buy Danish on December 8, 2010 at 1:49 PM

SuperCool on December 8, 2010 at 6:23 AM

BrAAAAAAAAAAAAAvo! It had to be said!

Supercool, indeed!

Gob on December 8, 2010 at 1:53 PM

A little “food” for thought about this deal…

Also tucked into this tax cuts deal are the 45-cent/per gallon ethanol subsidies that are set to expire this December. With approval of this deal, these subsidies will be continued to the end of 2011.

There are lots of reasons to want these subsidies to expire a quick death. Ethanol “enhanced” gasoline has been shown to give us less mpg and the addition of ethanol has also been shown to raise the price of foods we eat.

If ethanol is such a winner (which it isn’t) after all these years, let it go it alone.

marybel on December 8, 2010 at 2:51 PM

Oddly enough I sat next to Coons on an overly crowded morning train to DC yesterday. What a self impressed little twerp, by the way! Anyway, he was very cheerfully reading a staff memo for much of the trip down on the tax deal and bubbling away to some guy across the isle (maybe the “Alex” who wrote the memo). Coons didnt seem at all worried about the tax agreement from what I observed, just that I didn’t seem to recognize him. He dropped his business card in my lap twice but I ignored him. That gored his ox.

MTF on December 8, 2010 at 2:56 PM

DeMint lists several problems he has with the deal, but the big one is the fact that the cuts are temporary. Quote: “[W]e don’t need a temporary economy, which means we don’t need a temporary tax rate. A permanent extension of our current tax rates would allow businesses to plan five and ten years in advance, and that’s how you build an economy.”

DeMint has forgotten that “politics is the art of the possible”. In a 42-58 Senate, Republicans are not going to get perfection, we need every vote, and the only reason this is even on the table now is Obama is afraid of a two-year barrage of criticism from a GOP-controlled House.

The right strategy is to take what we can get for now (two years of extensions for the Bush tax cuts), and let tax hikes be an issue during the 2012 campaign, to be used against Obama and Senate Democrats.

Besides, right now, when this “compromise” has not yet passed Congress, businesses can’t plan even 5 WEEKS in advance. If they have a two-year reprieve, they can at least plan for the next two years, and Republican candidates for President and Senate can campaign on making the Bush tax cuts permanent, and those same businesses will probably donate to their campaigns.

If DeMint is looking for more, he can work on repealing all or part of ObamaCare in next year’s 47-53 Senate.

Steve Z on December 8, 2010 at 3:10 PM

Anyone seen the InTrade numbers for “the deal”? I don’t think it will pass.

I agree with Jim Geragthy on this, the GOP compromised too soon. And enough with the non-sense that this was “a great victory for the GOP”. It wasn’t.

Norwegian on December 8, 2010 at 3:39 PM

Palin to enter the fray in support of DeMint?

Buy Danish on December 8, 2010 at 1:49 PM

If she does she’s wrong.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 8, 2010 at 3:40 PM

Anyone seen the InTrade numbers for “the deal”? I don’t think it will pass.

I agree with Jim Geragthy on this, the GOP compromised too soon. And enough with the non-sense that this was “a great victory for the GOP”. It wasn’t.

Norwegian on December 8, 2010 at 3:39 PM

Wonderful.
I’m just going to love using our limit savings to buy groceries.
///sarc.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 8, 2010 at 3:42 PM

I have an idea that would really put the dems/libs heads in the presses.

The GOP should suggest that because they have had second thoughts about “the rich paying their FAIR SHARE” in taxes, that they propose a one-time tax surcharge of 2% on NET WORTH and watch their heads explode. The left make it sound like the only rich people are republicans and conservatives, while dismissing the fact that everyone in Congress and all the big left supporters are among the “uber-rich” and are just as evil as the ‘evil rich’ on the right.

belad on December 9, 2010 at 7:58 AM

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