Wikileaks tool: Hillary must go; Update: New leaks raise worries about Pakistani nukes

posted at 7:31 pm on November 30, 2010 by Allahpundit

So says the moral leader who’s just been placed on Interpol’s most wanted list.

Hillary Clinton, Julian Assange said, “should resign.” Speaking over Skype from an undisclosed location on Tuesday, the WikiLeaks founder was replying to a question by TIME managing editor Richard Stengel over the diplomatic-cable dump that Assange’s organization loosed on the world this past weekend. Stengel had said the U.S. Secretary of State was looking like “the fall guy” in the ensuing controversy, and had asked whether her firing or resignation was an outcome that Assange wanted. “I don’t think it would make much of a difference either way,” Assange said. “But she should resign if it can be shown that she was responsible for ordering U.S. diplomatic figures to engage in espionage in the United Nations, in violation of the international covenants to which the U.S. has signed up. Yes, she should resign over that.”…

Asked what his “moral calculus” was to justify publishing the leaks and whether he considered what he was doing to be “civil disobedience,” Assange said, “Not at all. This organization practices civil obedience, that is, we are an organization that tries to make the world more civil and act against abusive organizations that are pushing it in the opposite direction.” As for whether WikiLeaks was breaking the law, he said, “We have now in our four-year history, and over 100 legal attacks of various kinds, been victorious in all of those matters.” He added, “It’s very important to remember the law is not what, not simply what, powerful people would want others to believe it is. The law is not what a general says it is. The law is not what Hillary Clinton says it is.”

There are indeed treaties that prohibit spying at the UN, but should that legal formality matter to Obama? Not only was his foreign policy platform during the campaign unusually diplo-centric (remember his promise to meet with any world leader without preconditions?), but the contrast with Bush that he strained so hard to draw was based on the idea that perceptions of the United States matter crucially to our success abroad. Now, suddenly, here’s his own secretary of state apparently caught endorsing a little spycraft inside the Mos Eisley cantina of global diplomacy. Pretty bad perceptions-wise. What’s a soft power aficionado to do?

My hunch: Knowing that he can’t afford to further alienate Clinton Democrats ahead of 2012 and fully aware that dumping her won’t do a smidge of good to improve U.S. standing in the eyes of rabid anti-Americans like Assange, he’ll pat her on the back and say she’s guilty of nothing more than being a bit too zealous in defense of her country’s interests. And pretty much every last voter in America aside from 20 percent on the far left fringe will agree with him. Especially now that articles are starting to appear chronicling the damage Wikileaks has done not only to intelligence sharing between U.S. agencies but to the whole project of diplo-centric Democratic foreign policy. I made that point myself when the documents first dropped on Sunday: For an ostensibly anti-war organization, Wikileaks ironically has done more damage to the State Department than it has to Defense.

Today’s early evening document dump is out at the Times and Guardian. Back in a few minutes with an update on the newest dirt dished.

Update: A stark reminder from tonight’s NYT story that these leaks are indeed capable of damaging the United States.

Less than a month after President Obama testily assured reporters in 2009 that Pakistan’s nuclear materials “will remain out of militant hands,” his ambassador here sent a secret message to Washington suggesting that she was worried about just that.

The ambassador’s concern was a stockpile of highly enriched uranium, sitting for years near an aging research nuclear reactor in Pakistan. There was enough to build several “dirty bombs” or, in skilled hands, possibly enough for an actual nuclear bomb…

She wrote to senior American officials that the Pakistani government had concluded that “the ‘sensational’ international and local media coverage of Pakistan’s nuclear weapons made it impossible to proceed at this time.”
A senior Pakistani official, she said, warned that if word leaked out that Americans were helping remove the fuel, the local press would “certainly portray it as it as the United States taking Pakistan’s nuclear weapons.”

No doubt that’s precisely what they’ll do tomorrow, which means Pakistani cooperation on loose nukes will be that much smaller going forward. That’s not the only subject where secrecy is underscored either: The Pakistani military reportedly allowed a small team of U.S. special forces troops into the tribal areas last year, a development the American embassy emphasized should be kept confidential lest they nix future deployments. So much for that.

In fact, read the Guardian’s piece on the cables and you’ll see that cooperation is the least of American concerns. Some of the language about Pakistan being on the brink of collapse is hair-raising, especially when coupled with warnings about Islamists wanting nukes and worries that Pakistani military or nuclear techs might be willing and able to smuggle bomb-grade material out. As always with Pakistan, its systemic weakness ends up, oddly, being its strength: It’s because the country fears being overrun by India that it’s invested so heavily in a nuclear deterrent, which means more uranium production, which means that much greater a chance of jihadis with nuclear weapons or dirty bombs. Frankly, after reading the Guardian piece, it’s hard to believe nuclear material hasn’t leaked out already.


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Clinton and the spying thing ts the most comforting foreign policy stories I have hear since they took office.

rob verdi on November 30, 2010 at 7:33 PM

endorsing a little spycraft inside the Mos Eisley cantina of global diplomacy.

Heh. Love it.

Weight of Glory on November 30, 2010 at 7:34 PM

This guy from Wikileaks should be arrested ASAP and given a warm cell at GITMO.

CWforFreedom on November 30, 2010 at 7:34 PM

Today’s early evening document dump is out at the Times and Guardian. Back in a few minutes with an update on the newest dirt dished.

Bank stuff today, yeah?

Weight of Glory on November 30, 2010 at 7:35 PM

Well Allah… Interpol wants him BAD now!

upinak on November 30, 2010 at 7:35 PM

My hunch: Knowing that he can’t afford to further alienate Clinton Democrats ahead of 2012 and fully aware that dumping her won’t do a smidge of good to improve U.S. standing in the eyes of rabid anti-Americans like Assange, he’ll pat her on the back and say she’s guilty of nothing more than being a bit too zealous in defense of her country’s interests

Why should he respond at all to a most wanted criminal? Ignore the freak. They were doing the right thing.

amerpundit on November 30, 2010 at 7:35 PM

Darn it. Allah already posted the Interpol. I need to change the font colors for this darn screen.

upinak on November 30, 2010 at 7:38 PM

Actually, when I heard Hillary ordered spying, she gained respect with me.

portlandon on November 30, 2010 at 7:38 PM

“But she should resign if it can be shown that she was responsible for ordering U.S. diplomatic figures to engage in espionage in the United Nations…

I was thinking that a round of applause would be more appropriate.

sharrukin on November 30, 2010 at 7:39 PM

he’ll pat her on the back and say she’s guilty of nothing more than being a bit too zealous in defense of her country’s interests.

but will he say “Heckuva job Hillary”….?

ted c on November 30, 2010 at 7:40 PM

Assange is a coward

jp on November 30, 2010 at 7:40 PM

The only thing I can’t stand worse than Hillary is when some foreign enemy collaborator bashes her. She’s OUR problem, you shut the phuq up about her.

Tony737 on November 30, 2010 at 7:40 PM

If he’s in Britain (not out of the reach of Putin’s KGB) and wants to get to Ecuador, and Interpol is looking for him, well, bad luck to you, Julian.

rbj on November 30, 2010 at 7:40 PM

I wonder how many pirated DVDs that one has to watch before Interpol wants to get after ya…?

ted c on November 30, 2010 at 7:40 PM

I Side With Hillary!!!

that felt weird to type. This Assange (expletive deleted) has some serious delusions of grandeur.

Ampersand on November 30, 2010 at 7:41 PM

Assange is the man.

Spathi on November 30, 2010 at 7:41 PM

Hillary should work in the US interest, not the “international community”……atleast it appears she was doing that to some degree here.

jp on November 30, 2010 at 7:41 PM

Yes, let’s all act shocked together–Hillary is spying. From the author of the “politics of personal destruction” who claimed the raw FBI files in the White House basement were a misunderstanding we find she is reverting to a form fashioned during her time in Arkansas.

This is pure skank at work.

patrick neid on November 30, 2010 at 7:41 PM

Actually, when I heard Hillary ordered spying, she gained respect with me.

portlandon on November 30, 2010 at 7:38 PM

I think she did with quite a few.

upinak on November 30, 2010 at 7:41 PM

Assange= a thorn in the side of big government an institutions as well.

Spathi on November 30, 2010 at 7:42 PM

Assange is the man.

Spathi on November 30, 2010 at 7:41 PM

why?

upinak on November 30, 2010 at 7:42 PM

not for nothing, but all the coverage on the msm is about this dude…where is the outrage re: howdy doody that actually stole the info…

or did i miss it all when he got arrested a few months back

cmsinaz on November 30, 2010 at 7:42 PM

The other night I said all of this ruined any chance Clinton had on 2012. Now I’m not so sure about that.

SouthernGent on November 30, 2010 at 7:43 PM

why?

upinak on November 30, 2010 at 7:42 PM

because spathi is a paulnut anarchist lunatic and anti-american to the core.

jp on November 30, 2010 at 7:43 PM

cmsinaz on November 30, 2010 at 7:42 PM

I don’t think it was just the kid, manning, who gave all that info.

upinak on November 30, 2010 at 7:46 PM

Assange= a thorn in the side of peace, order, economic and Civil Liberty

Spathi on November 30, 2010 at 7:42 PM

FIFY -

jp on November 30, 2010 at 7:46 PM

He’s gonna pi$$ off the right people and get ‘dissapeared’.

BigWyo on November 30, 2010 at 7:47 PM

remember his promise to meet with any world leader without preconditions?

I guess our ally slovenia doesn’t count

Daveyardbird on November 30, 2010 at 7:48 PM

Who does this little “pejorative term for feminine hygeine product” think he is deciding who should stay in office?

clnurnberg on November 30, 2010 at 7:48 PM

upinak on November 30, 2010 at 7:46 PM

point taken, I guess I was expecting to hear some outrage re: the actual stealing of information, not just the publication…

cmsinaz on November 30, 2010 at 7:48 PM

Back in the day the USSR’s UN residence in Riverdale NY was a 20 story apartment that had more electronic eavesdropping equipment sticking out of it that they could tell when a Manhattan College student had snuck a Mt.St Vincent girl into his Overlook dorm room.So I don’t need to hear about covenants about no UN spying. And if Hillary did order the Buenos Aries staff to find out about Christina’s mental illness and drug habits, kudos for her. That’s exactly what we should be doing to unfriendly foreign leaders.

xkaydet65 on November 30, 2010 at 7:50 PM

Actually, when I heard Hillary ordered spying, she gained respect with me.

portlandon on November 30, 2010 at 7:38 PM

Agreed. She actually put US interests above that of the international UN ‘the US is a cesspool of uncouth capitalistic decadence and a big meanie’ community. Brava.

Kirin on November 30, 2010 at 7:50 PM

[Glenn Beck Soro's conspiracy hat on] So Assange is actually trying to undermine Hillary and prevent a primary challenge for Teh One? [/Glenn Beck Soro's conspiracy hat off]

If only.

Iblis on November 30, 2010 at 7:54 PM

Rush observed today Hillary was treating the UN like Bill’s bimbos.

KittyLowrey on November 30, 2010 at 7:54 PM

I remember when we used to fight our enemies. Good times.

ronsfi on November 30, 2010 at 7:56 PM

This is pure skank at work.

patrick neid on November 30, 2010 at 7:41 PM

Yup.

Nothing to admire here. Not when it’s dishonest and unethical Hillary.

KittyLowrey on November 30, 2010 at 7:57 PM

Actually, when I heard Hillary ordered spying, she gained respect with me.

portlandon on November 30, 2010 at 7:38 PM

I think she did with quite a few.

upinak on November 30, 2010 at 7:41 PM

Not me, yet. Why did her boss allow it to get this far before starting an investigation? It’s not like they didn’t know this was coming. Or didn’t they? She’ll needs to quit (resign) and expose how incompetent the rest of this administration is before I start extolling her virtues.

CTSherman on November 30, 2010 at 7:58 PM

The Pakistani military reportedly allowed a small team of U.S. special forces troops into the tribal areas last year, a development the American embassy emphasized should be kept confidential lest they nix future deployments.

hush

ted c on November 30, 2010 at 7:59 PM

point taken, I guess I was expecting to hear some outrage re: the actual stealing of information, not just the publication…

cmsinaz on November 30, 2010 at 7:48 PM

all we can do is watch assange go down and see what bubbles up.

upinak on November 30, 2010 at 8:00 PM

Assange= a thorn in the side of big government an institutions as well.

Spathi on November 30, 2010 at 7:42 PM

And what do you do with irresponsible thorns?

You remove them with intelligent pliers.

Freelance anarchist spies like Assange cannot be allowed to screw around with national security.

They need to be crushed.

And Putin graves.

profitsbeard on November 30, 2010 at 8:00 PM

CTSherman on November 30, 2010 at 7:58 PM

But Sherman.. my man! We already KNOW how incompetent it is. I think you are waiting for another shoe to fall… and see the waves off the puddle. I just hope that puddle isn’t to big to wipe some off the map.

upinak on November 30, 2010 at 8:02 PM

Anybody that thinks that the UN has not always been a hotbed of spying, should not be let out of the nursery.

Slowburn on November 30, 2010 at 8:03 PM

wow, Judge Truther making a fool of himself on O’Reily

jp on November 30, 2010 at 8:05 PM

If it’s this easy to get that information , it’s almost better if it’s in the open.

the_nile on November 30, 2010 at 8:05 PM

Rush observed today Hillary was treating the UN like Bill’s bimbos.

KittyLowrey on November 30, 2010 at 7:54 PM

Dick Morris also pointed that out last night on Hannity. His take was that Hillary would use the intel as a kind of extortion against foreign adversaries as she allegedly did with Wild Bill’s Babes.

anXdem on November 30, 2010 at 8:08 PM

upinak on November 30, 2010 at 8:00 PM

yepper…

cmsinaz on November 30, 2010 at 8:08 PM

The Pakistani military reportedly allowed a small team of U.S. special forces troops into the tribal areas last year, a development the American embassy emphasized should be kept confidential lest they nix future deployments. So much for that.

I repeat again, why is Assange not yet room temperature?

amerpundit on November 30, 2010 at 8:11 PM

anXdem on November 30, 2010 at 8:08 PM

I’m pretty sure most of us thought it the minute we heard she was involved, knowing her track record.

KittyLowrey on November 30, 2010 at 8:11 PM

I repeat again, why is Assange not yet room temperature?

amerpundit on November 30, 2010 at 8:11 PM

like I said to cmsinaz. They want to see what bubbles up. i.e. who his resources actually are. Probably the only reason.

upinak on November 30, 2010 at 8:12 PM

I repeat again, why is Assange not yet room temperature?

amerpundit on November 30, 2010 at 8:11 PM

They want his sources. Simple as that.

People like Assange are a dime a dozen, the real threat is the actual leaker(s).

Dark-Star on November 30, 2010 at 8:16 PM

This guy from Wikileaks should be arrested ASAP and given a warm cell at GITMO.

CWforFreedom on November 30, 2010 at 7:34 PM

I’d rather see the pr*ck who gave him the information tried by a military court and then shot. Mr. Wikileaks wouldn’t be worth a bucket of warm spit without insiders giving him classified data. Punish the insiders in the most severe manner possible, and Wikileaks goes away.

joejm65 on November 30, 2010 at 8:18 PM

On one hand I would like to see the Wikileaks guy killed in the old fashioned government spy way.

On the other hand I can’t help but wonder if it’s better for everyone to drop the facade of diplomacy and speak in plain language. We all know that no one trusts anyone. I wonder if pretending otherwise causes more harm than it prevents.

deewhybee on November 30, 2010 at 8:18 PM

“Not at all. This organization practices civil obedience, that is, we are an organization that tries to make the world more civil and act against abusive organizations that are pushing it in the opposite direction.”

Part of being civil is keeping some things to yourself. Assange has an opportunistically childish view of civility. Something tells me all he really cares about is squeezing every last ounce of celebrity out of this international clusterbang.

RightOFLeft on November 30, 2010 at 8:18 PM

Good on Hillary to endorse spying, though not maintaining plausible deniability in communications is a rookie mistake and just another example of how fundamentally unserious Democrats are

phreshone on November 30, 2010 at 8:19 PM

Gawd this is turning into a Grand sumpin sumpin!!

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 8:21 PM

Part of being civil is keeping some things to yourself. Assange has an opportunistically childish view of civility. Something tells me all he really cares about is squeezing every last ounce of celebrity out of this international clusterbang.

RightOFLeft on November 30, 2010 at 8:18 PM

sounds like PETA, WWF, GreenPeace with a spy twist.. doesn’t it?

upinak on November 30, 2010 at 8:22 PM

If he’s in Britain (not out of the reach of Putin’s KGB) and wants to get to Ecuador, and Interpol is looking for him, well, bad luck to you, Julian.

rbj on November 30, 2010 at 7:40 PM

Worse,I think Ecuador is smoking him out for the Russians.Or,better.

I have a nasty mind.

katy the mean old lady on November 30, 2010 at 8:22 PM

upinak on November 30, 2010 at 8:02 PM

Hopefully that shoe won’t be a size 17E. You and the rest of us here may know he’s an incompetent fool, but 45% of the country still thinks he’s brilliant.

CTSherman on November 30, 2010 at 8:23 PM

Worse,I think Ecuador is smoking him out for the Russians.Or,better.

I have a nasty mind.

katy the mean old lady on November 30, 2010 at 8:22 PM

I think Europe is the safest place for him.

the_nile on November 30, 2010 at 8:24 PM

Anybody that thinks that the UN has not always been a hotbed of spying, should not be let out of the nursery.

Slowburn on November 30, 2010 at 8:03 PM

+100

Spy on your friends today,they can be your enemies tomorrow.

katy the mean old lady on November 30, 2010 at 8:25 PM

Worry about the impending collapse of the Pakistan government was being discussed back in September. If, as indicated in the linked article, there is a military coup, there’s a serious danger that the jihadis easily could get their hands on nuclear material. Not good. Not good at all.

Nearly across the board, the president’s initiatives are going down in flames. Nowhere is this more true than in Pakistan where, Jane Perlez reported Wednesday, the civilian government in which the U.S. has invested billions is perilously close to collapse — if not facing a military coup.

Now comes word that Pakistan is cutting off NATO’s supply lines into Afghanistan in retaliation for U.S. helicopter strikes in Pakistani territory — strikes made necessary because the Pakistani military can’t, or won’t, crack down on militants unless they threaten the Pakistani state directly.

anXdem on November 30, 2010 at 8:26 PM

Eventually something of consequence will finally happen due to these leaks.

Apologetic California on November 30, 2010 at 8:26 PM

The other night I said all of this ruined any chance Clinton had on 2012. Now I’m not so sure about that.

SouthernGent on November 30, 2010 at 7:43 PM

Nay, I think the progressives and the internationalists of the Democratic party will hate her for this. I wonder if I should hop over to DU or Kos to look at the reaction, but I really do not want to waste my time or give them traffic.

bayview on November 30, 2010 at 8:27 PM

Hillary Clinton, Julian Assange said, “should resign.” Speaking over Skype from an undisclosed location on Tuesday
===================================================
Speaking of Skype,this Communication Terrorist admitted
he was close to working the bugs out on capturing whatever
is said over Skype,and he is not going to slow down on any
of this!!

He mentions it in the video!
=================================

Video: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange and Daniel Ellsberg at Personal Democracy Forum

Xeni Jardin at 9:11 AM Sunday, Jun 13, 2010

Here’s video of Wikileaks founder Julian Assange talking with Daniel Ellsberg (the first time they’d ever talked) at Personal Democracy Forum on June 3rd. Julian was supposed to attend in person, but canceled at the last minute citing warnings he had gotten not to travel to countries “that don’t respect the rule of law.”
=================================

http://boingboing.net/2010/06/13/video-wikileaks-foun.html

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 8:29 PM

I repeat again, why is Assange not yet room temperature?

amerpundit on November 30, 2010 at 8:11 PM

They want his sources. Simple as that.

People like Assange are a dime a dozen, the real threat is the actual leaker(s).

Dark-Star on November 30, 2010 at 8:16 PM

They and their newspaper enablers need to be put into prison cells until they learn what they did wrong. Then face civil suits from the estates of the Afghanis whose lives they cost.

pedestrian on November 30, 2010 at 8:31 PM

Ya know,if this was World War Two,there would be a
solution to the unemployment problem,with over-time
shifts of FIRING SQUADS,with all this,

LOOSE LIPS SINKS SHIPS/THE ENEMY IS LISTENING!(sarc).

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 8:33 PM

You know, I’ve been mulling this WikiLeaks phenomenom over for a few days, yet I’m still somewhat ambivalent.

No doubt in my mind, Assange a self-serving, anti-American gangster whom we need to bring down by any lawful means possible.

But on the other hand, the sunshine brought on gubmint may have redeeming value.

I think Dennis Miller said it well today on his radio show: “He should get a Pulitzer prize, and he should get it posthumously.”

petefrt on November 30, 2010 at 8:34 PM

Follow the money power.

Who stands to gain the most in the near- to short-term horizon if Hillary is set up as ‘the fall guy’? Makes you wonder where some of the Wilikleaks are coming from.

Blacksheep on November 30, 2010 at 8:39 PM

Wikileaks tool: Hillary must go

Putin: Wikileaks must go.

I wonder if Putin understands that everything is at stake for him, including his reputation for ruthlessness.

Picture Julian mano e mano with Vlad.

disa on November 30, 2010 at 8:42 PM

Who stands to gain the most in the near- to short-term horizon if Hillary is set up as ‘the fall guy’?Blacksheep on November 30, 2010 at 8:39 PM

Possibly Sarah Palin.

Mitt: RomneyCare and flip-flops
The Huckster: Released felon kills four cops.
Obama: Everything
Hillary: WikiLeaks

bw222 on November 30, 2010 at 8:46 PM

Makes you wonder where some of the Wilikleaks are coming from.

Blacksheep on November 30, 2010 at 8:39 PM

I’m thinking Assange’s main political motivation is to crash the USA, and doesn’t matter much whether it’s a Dem or Repub who gets caught up in his grinder. He’s an anarchist, right?

petefrt on November 30, 2010 at 8:47 PM

In some ways, I take some of this with good news. At least the administration is not sitting around with their thumbs up their rears, or just playing basketball and going to tv shows.

WoosterOh on November 30, 2010 at 8:50 PM

…doesn’t matter much whether it’s a Dem or Repub who gets caught up in his grinder. He’s an anarchist, right?

petefrt on November 30, 2010 at 8:47 PM

As an anarchist, even our ‘progressives’, even our Obamas, are centrists to him. So he may aim to crash them too. Only time will tell.

petefrt on November 30, 2010 at 8:52 PM

But on the other hand, the sunshine brought on gubmint may have redeeming value.

petefrt on November 30, 2010 at 8:34 PM

petefrt:I heard Jerome Corsi last night on CoastoCoast and
my jaw dropped,in that,he agrees what Assenge has
done!

I understand National Security compared to the right
of American citizens to know,and he has a point on
government lying,I dunno!!:)

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 8:59 PM

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 8:59 PM

I heard Corsi make that same point this afternoon on Dennis Miller’s show. I must say, as a libertarian conservative, his argument is really, really persuasive.

The trade-off, of course, is where it risks American lives, as Miller said. I see the Corsi and Miler principles to be reconcilable, on a case-by-case basis. And thereafter to lie forever.

But, as Corsi said, today’s gubmints are all to prone to hide their dirty laundry behind some alleged risk to human life.

petefrt on November 30, 2010 at 9:11 PM

But on the other hand, the sunshine brought on gubmint may have redeeming value.

It’s hard for me to resist seeing it that way, but I don’t think it’s sunshine. It’s more like a flashlight shining on closet. A lot of the cables are taken out of the context of our complex relationships with other countries. And without having the other countries’ diplomatic cables broadcast to the world, we’re only hearing 1/200th of the story.

There are also legitimately some things that should be state secrets, and not just the names of operatives in the field. It’s human to want to know everything we can about our government, and I don’t have a problem with the fact that you or I know a little more about it, but what right does, say, Iran have to know our secrets? Whose interests are served by essentially granting hostile foreign countries a security clearance? It’s insane verging on suicidal.

RightOFLeft on November 30, 2010 at 9:14 PM

petefrt on November 30, 2010 at 9:11 PM

Corrected:

The trade-off, of course, is where it risks American lives, as Miller said. I see the Corsi and Miler principles to be reconcilable, on a case-by-case basis. And thereafter to lie forever.

But, as Corsi said, today’s gubmints are all to prone to hide their dirty laundry behind some alleged risk to human life. And thereafter to lie forever.

petefrt on November 30, 2010 at 9:11 PM

petefrt on November 30, 2010 at 9:14 PM

One of AssLeakys Supporters!
==================================================
Tuesday, 30 November 2010
Whack WikiLeaks

William Kristol seconds that emotion.

At the video, Julian Assange’s communist enablers at Democracy Now!

http://www.theospark.net/2010/11/whack-wikileaks.html

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 9:18 PM

Hillary Clinton, Julian Assange said, “should resign.”

Awful ‘judgmental’ of him, isn’t it?

GarandFan on November 30, 2010 at 9:20 PM

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 8:59 PM
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The trade-off, of course, is where it risks American lives,

petefrt on November 30, 2010 at 9:11 PM

petefrt:Ya,thats where I draw the line:)

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 9:22 PM

wow, Judge Truther making a fool of himself on O’Reilly

jp on November 30, 2010 at 8:05 PM

Not sure who the bigger fool is there, BOR or the Judge. Colmes’s comparison of the wikileaks scandal to the Valerie Plame soap opera was just pitiful, and BOR was too dense to counter it.

slickwillie2001 on November 30, 2010 at 9:42 PM

If Assange was truly a believer in civil disobedience, then he would submit to his arrest, go to jail and face his accusers at his trial. Great men like MLK and Gandhi followed this course of action.

Instead, he is committing crimes and fleeing from the consequences. He is a coward. He won’t face up to the consequences of his actions – either personally (jail) or professionally (by acknowledging the moral obtuseness of hindering the ability of diplomats to communicate with each other).

johnboy on November 30, 2010 at 9:43 PM

patrick neid on November 30, 2010 at 7:41 PM

Wayyyyyyyyyy off target dude.

At lest someone in the Obama admin is looking out for ALL America and not just themselves.

Spooks at the Embassy! really?

DSchoen on November 30, 2010 at 9:45 PM

Dear Lord. Help us.

There is no ‘state.’ There is no ‘USA.’ There is no ‘America.’ There are only people, only individual Americans. The people who work in the government, do so because they benefit and they will always work for their benefit. States don’t do things. People do things. Obama is just a man. Hillary is just a woman. These other world leaders are just people, who do things so they can benefit.

Our soldiers are giving their lives so some bureaucrat, some elected criminal, some frikin’ appointee can receive either a direct or indirect benefit. It’s disheartening to see so many call for the death of someone who is simply revealing the truth of our crooked, criminal political class.

When a politician starts cutting his pay, repealing laws, and bringing American soldiers back home, then that politician, that person, might be acting in the interest of the rest of the people.

j_galt on November 30, 2010 at 10:18 PM

For an ostensibly anti-war organization, Wikileaks ironically has done more damage to the State Department than it has to Defense.

They are not anti-war. They are anti-capitalism, anti-Western. Their goal isn’t peace it’s full blown destruction of the world as we know it. The sooner people understand this the better.

angryed on November 30, 2010 at 10:47 PM

There is no ‘state.’ There is no ‘USA.’ There is no ‘America.’

j_galt on November 30, 2010 at 10:18 PM

There is no intelligence.

profitsbeard on November 30, 2010 at 10:49 PM

I see a man with an umbrella gun in Assange’s future.

“When the ricin hits the bone!”

ebrown2 on November 30, 2010 at 11:02 PM

I’ve been fishing around my old Libertarian contacts to see what the consensus is – of course there isn’t any, but a lot of people are reacting with some sort of “celebration” that “the little guy” is taking down systems, companies, and maybe even governments, with pretty much zero awareness or discussion of negative consequences.

Seems like Libertarians, who once talked about private solutions to public problems, have now become children who want ice cream for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

Most people have a lot to complain about, but when you ask them, seriously, what the alternative is, they suddenly remember a hair appointment.

Assange seems to do a lot with his hair, don’t you think?

Merovign on December 1, 2010 at 12:42 AM

To simplify: What wikileaks is doing is vandalism – you get to say what you want and someone else has to pay for it.

Why is anyone assuming any given quote is trustworthy, anyway, given the source?

Merovign on December 1, 2010 at 12:44 AM

I notice that after months of doing nothing appreciable to deal with Wikileaks, Palin puts a few paragiraffes up on her Facebook page and the State Department jolts into action

http://tinyurl.com/2vjowta

DaMav on December 1, 2010 at 3:01 AM

KGB style diplomat spy’n….. sounds about right for America

roflmao

donabernathy on December 1, 2010 at 5:48 AM

Actually Hillary’s type of spying (credit card receipts, hotel reservations, airline tickets, etc. had nothing to do with national security and everything to do with BLACKMAIL. Hillary has done this for years-against Republicans and even against fellow Democratic rivals. Why not try the same tactics against foreign heads of state? You might get lucky and catch Putin in bed with a 13-year old boy.At least WikiLeaks caught Hillary with her hand in the cookie jar. AGAIN.

MaiDee on December 1, 2010 at 10:45 AM