Pay freeze the beginning of Clintonian triangulation strategy?

posted at 8:48 am on November 30, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Before the midterms swept aside the Democratic majority in the House, many wondered whether Barack Obama had the sense and the willingness to emulate Bill Clinton and move to the center after losing part or all of Congress.   Obama campaigned as a post-partisan moderate but governed as a hard-Left ideologue in his first two years.  After the midterms, Obama admitted getting “shellacked” by the vote and urged bipartisan cooperation, but framed it as cooperation on his agenda rather than moving himself toward the Republicans.

Yesterday, though, Obama adopted one of the least painful demands for fiscal discipline from the GOP in announcing a pay freeze for non-military federal workers.  Jonathan Allen and Jake Sherman argue in Politico that this demonstrates Obama’s intent to execute a Clintonian triangulation strategy over the next two years:

President Barack Obama’s embrace of the politically symbolic two-year freeze on federal government salaries aligns him with House Republican leaders and against unions, public workers and some leaders in his own party.

A winner of incoming House Majority Leader Eric Cantor’s YouCut online spending-cut poll in May, the proposal would require the House and Senate, at the last minute, to include the freeze in any long-term federal spending bill dealing with the slate of unfinished fiscal 2011 appropriations laws.

The president’s adoption of a GOP proposal that goes straight to the ideological divide between the parties — the size, scope and value of government — could be an early sign of White House efforts to move toward the political center in advance of the 2012 election.

It infuriated union leaders, some rank-and-file Democratic lawmakers and even a handful of Republicans — few of whom saw it coming — and thus put the president squarely to the political right of liberals and other labor allies. The word “triangulation” — a reference to President Bill Clinton’s practice of calibrating positions to distance him from both the political and left and the political right — floated through the corridors of Congress on Monday.

Could this be the start of a triangulation strategy?  Yes, but it could also be the end of Obama’s triangulation as well.  The pay freeze is hardly a monumental move towards the center.  It involves five billion dollars in savings over two years, or roughly 0.3% of the $1.3 trillion deficit from a single year in Obama’s budget.  It’s the lowest-hanging fruit in the bipartisan orchard.

Obama hasn’t yet had to deal with serious disapproval from the unions, either.  They’re blasting him for merely freezing wages, not reductions in force.  It’s a warning shot to go no further.  Bill Clinton, on the other hand, actually broke hard with the Left over welfare reform to earn some stripes as a centrist.  Will Obama show that kind of courage on serious cuts in government and entitlements, especially when his base is the only support he has at this point in his term?  It’s possible, but so far in his term Obama has shown no such fortitude.

After all the speculation, it’s certainly tempting to see a trend towards triangulation in a single and decidedly minor data point.  When Obama takes a serious political risk to shrink government and the regulatory regime, then we can talk about Clintonian triangulation strategies.  The pay freeze is nothing more than public relations.


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This is nothing more than a “distraction“.

Freeze hiring and re-institute the pay scale from 2006.

belad on November 30, 2010 at 8:51 AM

After raising these wages to unworthy levels, now he wants to freeze them?!? Another meaningless gesture on the part of O’Bambi.

honsy on November 30, 2010 at 8:51 AM

Spinning Attempt Failure!!

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 8:51 AM

A cut would be more believable!

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 8:53 AM

So far, Obama’s idea of walking something back has been to offer a concession so tiny as to be insulting. This “pay freeze” looks like more of the same, especially since (1) the federal government is already so huge and (2) federal government workers already get paid so much better than the rest of us.

Aitch748 on November 30, 2010 at 8:53 AM

Could this be the start of a triangulation strategy? Yes, but it could also be the end of Obama’s triangulation as well.

spot on Ed

the WH still thinks it was all about a messaging problem…he’ll double down on stupid…

cmsinaz on November 30, 2010 at 8:53 AM

Freeze hiring and re-institute the pay scale from 2006 2004.

belad on November 30, 2010 at 8:51 AM

Cut pay. No more hiring. Close the Dept. of Energy. Defund public broadcasting and the Natl Endowment for the “Arts.”

No one more dime.

Good Lt on November 30, 2010 at 8:53 AM

The average gubmint salary and benefits is $123,000+ per year.

The average private sector salary and benefits is $62,000+ per year.

I think there is something terrible wrong with this picture!

belad on November 30, 2010 at 8:54 AM

Triangulation strategy? More like the continuation of the Obama economic strangulation strategy.

Fallon on November 30, 2010 at 8:54 AM

How could a fake/liberal spending joke be part of triangulation? This pisses off liberals, union thugs, and conservatives…unless you are somehow under the impression that this is going to save taxpayers a penny.

Jaibones on November 30, 2010 at 8:55 AM

This is a complete BS move. As a caller to Rush said yesterday, all this does is freeze the inflation increase for each step within each grade. Federal workers who move up within each step, within a grade, will still see a pay raise. And I seriously doubt that someone at a certain pay level, if bumped up a grade, won’t be at a higher step within the new grade rather than start at a lower pay level in the new grade.

rbj on November 30, 2010 at 8:55 AM

Team Obama is going to try their darndest to hunt and peck at the margins of triangulation, and probably with a ton of stories in the big media spun out of the White House on how similar Obama’s triangulation is to Bill Clinton’s effort, while the president avoids doing anything truly meaningful that would alienate his base of far left special interest groups.

If Harry Reid is willing to throw himself and the Senate Democrats under the bus and play the liberal ‘bad cop’ while Obama plays ‘good cop’ and takes a middle position between the House and Senate, he might be able to snooker a few moderates. But with almost two dozen Democrats up for re-election in 2012 and with the results of Nov. 2 fresh in their minds, it’s hard to see a lot of other Senate Dems whose seats aren’t safe until 2016 jumping at the chance to sacrifice their political careers by playing the far left loon to make Barack Obama look good.

jon1979 on November 30, 2010 at 8:56 AM

Obama Turns On The Base — Freezes Federal Pay

Read more: http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/11/29/obama-turns-on-the-base-freezes-federal-pay/#ixzz16m2SBkUX
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Thats the Narration Perception/Deception that they want
you to believe,the union is still Liberals #1 campaign
contributer!!

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 8:56 AM

Actually this is brilliant. It looks populist and appears to strike at a favorite GOP target. But Federal employees know that their raises will keep coming in the form of step promotions, which are unaffected by this move. It wouldn’t matter anyway because unionized Federal employees will ALWAYS vote Democrat. They know who butters their very large piece of bread. Well played Barry. This is just what BJ would have done.

WarEagle01 on November 30, 2010 at 9:02 AM

I’m all for savings-even small ones- but without freezing step increases and bonus pay, this won’t save much at all and doesn’t deserve so much attention from the press.

LASue on November 30, 2010 at 9:03 AM

He’s a committed Socialist (at best).

Yesterday there was some spin from a friend how great this was and showed he was moderating and should be applauded but it was quickly shot down by a group of friends that said if he really meant business he’d start a HIRING FREEZE.

And does this affect his VACATION BUDGET AT ALL?

Will he be turning down the thermostat and start wearing a sweater?

Will he start eating Ramen noodles for dinner?

Nope, we’re serfs………..him RULING CLASS.

PappyD61 on November 30, 2010 at 9:04 AM

Laughable. The unions were in on it, their reaction was planned, manufactured, and orchestrated to look real and be chock full of outrageous outrage.

The truth is that they can still do whatever they need to keep their people in the money, and PBHO promised them in 2 years he will pay them back ten fold.

Bishop on November 30, 2010 at 9:04 AM

Oh dis is juicy,blame the Right,from da Socialists
====================================================

Obama imposes pay freeze on 2.1 million federal workers
30 November 2010

President Obama on Monday announced the imposition of a two-year pay freeze on all federal government employees outside of the military. Pending congressional approval, the order will take effect immediately, affecting 2.1 million workers and eliminating a scheduled 1.4 percent pay increase for 2011.

The move is a craven capitulation to demands from the Republican Party, which made the claim that government workers are overpaid a theme of its midterm campaign. Obama announced the pay freeze the day before a meeting with congressional leaders, in order to demonstrate his willingness to “work with” Republicans―i.e., adopt their demands in full.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/nov2010/fede-n30.shtml

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 9:04 AM

How about someone in D.C. enact the “PAPPY PLAN“?

CLOSE THE BORDER…..and 10% ACROSS THE BOARD BUDGET CUTS.

IT’S THAT SIMPLE FOLKS.

PappyD61 on November 30, 2010 at 9:05 AM

This only a COLA freeze. Other wages will continue to increase.

Nothing to see here, move along.

SouthernRoots on November 30, 2010 at 9:05 AM

Laughable. The unions were in on it, their reaction was planned, manufactured, and orchestrated to look real and be chock full of outrageous outrage.

Bishop on November 30, 2010 at 9:04 AM

Bishop: Bingo:)

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 9:06 AM

How about someone in D.C. enact the “PAPPY PLAN“?

CLOSE THE BORDER…..and 10% ACROSS THE BOARD BUDGET CUTS.

IT’S THAT SIMPLE FOLKS.

PappyD61 on November 30, 2010 at 9:05 AM

PappyD61:Now your cook’n with the gas!:)

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 9:07 AM

Yesterday, though, Obama adopted one of the least painful demands for fiscal discipline from the GOP in announcing a pay freeze for non-military federal workers.

I would have never believed Mr. Morrissey anyone could get Obama and fiscal discipline in the same sentence that would make any sense.

This is just political theater on Obama’s part, and the barn door’s been open far too long. How easy is it to freeze federal pay after expanding the federal jobs sector by millions? If Obama was serious about the deficit and an expanding federal government, he should roll back federal salaries to 2003 or earlier.

Rovin on November 30, 2010 at 9:08 AM

Empty and worthless gesture.
a bone for a starving dog…

OmahaConservative on November 30, 2010 at 9:09 AM

so Federal workers have now doubled private industry salaries and they are gonna get a pay freeze. That’s generous. What next my adjustable rate mortgage going to the limit and the mortgage company sending me a congratulatory Christmas letter informing me that it can’t go any higher.

roflmao

donabernathy on November 30, 2010 at 9:10 AM

How about we do something really serious with out of control federal worker pay. Make it average the same as what a soldier gets, max at the average wage an American worker gets.

The freeze is another scam …

tarpon on November 30, 2010 at 9:13 AM

Ugh! How could anyone fall for that and still be worthy of a paycheck from Politico? Are they in that big of a hurry to become another version of Huffpo?

The “pay freeze” was stupid anyway. It doesn’t reduce the bloat. There are good, hard-working people who use their talent and expertise on behalf of the American people EVERY DAY. There are a bunch of people alive and whole today because some federal workers were doing their JOB. So, these people deserve their pay raises and promotions and COLAs.

What we want… is the WASTE trimmed off. We want to unload pointless bureaucrats who spend their day hanging out at the water-cooler and doing the New York Times crossword puzzle. We want whole agencies of redundant paper-pushers eliminated. We want to STOP paying the federal government for make-work jobs that aren’t a part of its Constitutional purview.

And I think it’s fairly obvious that the guy who gave us HUNDREDS of new federal oversight programs is not going to be the one to do that. Triangulation? Yeah… right.

Murf76 on November 30, 2010 at 9:14 AM

My question is, “How do I get one of those wage frozen federal jobs?” Is being male, white, catholic, conservative, qualified and educate a detriment or an enhancement.

Tommy_G on November 30, 2010 at 9:16 AM

Just remember,how Obama treated the Republicans at the HealthCare Summit,when Hopey treated McCain like Sh*t!!

His arrogant smugness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And now,he wants to be NICE,reach across
the aisle,nice try!!!
=====================================

Obama to McCain: “The Election Is Over”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i0bDbYUUhY&feature=related

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 9:16 AM

How about we do something really serious with out of control federal worker pay. Make it average the same as what a soldier gets, max at the average wage an American worker gets.

The freeze is another scam …

tarpon on November 30, 2010 at 9:13 AM

You think those guys who busted that Islomafascist slime in Portland the other day don’t deserve their paycheck???

Murf76 on November 30, 2010 at 9:18 AM

Could this be the start of a triangulation strategy? Yes, but…

The answer is “NO” it isn’t. It’s a strategy to appear to triangulate by 1)keep the MSM in his pocket to magnify his crumbs as big as the loaves he wants in return. 2)Having his progressive Dem leadership in congress and the unions voice opposition and 3)build a Clitonesque aura without any real moves to the center. Egos aside, Clinton was about self preservation, Obama is about agenda preservation. He’s incapable of changing directions. In his mind, if he backs off on his progressive socialist goals (dreams) then what’s the point?

cartooner on November 30, 2010 at 9:19 AM

Pure distraction

PatriotRider on November 30, 2010 at 9:19 AM

Yep, put federal civilian employees in the same payscale as soldiers. If someone volunteers to brave bullets and RPG’s for a set amount, certainly a surly clerk at the vet administration office can work for the same. The worst they face is a paper cut.

Bishop on November 30, 2010 at 9:20 AM

This symbolic freeze is immaterial. It’s all for show. Cut the federal workforce by 20%, that will result in material savings.

David in ATL on November 30, 2010 at 9:22 AM

Laughable. The unions were in on it, their reaction was planned, manufactured, and orchestrated to look real and be chock full of outrageous outrage.

The truth is that they can still do whatever they need to keep their people in the money, and PBHO promised them in 2 years he will pay them back ten fold.

Bishop on November 30, 2010 at 9:04 AM

+1

30 pcs of silver on November 30, 2010 at 9:24 AM

tarpon on November 30, 2010 at 9:13 AM

That’s completely inane.

Do you realize that the DoD for example, requires security clearances and professional degrees for most jobs. Jobs that support the warfighter in the field. Employees who are mostly retired or ex-military.

Where do you think they’re going to get people for Homeland Security?

Lowball federal employee wages and you’ll just end up paying a higher wage to contractors.

Or we can just do national security on the cheap, the one thing that our federal government is supposed to do.

Don’t forget that DoD employees are also federal employees.

NoDonkey on November 30, 2010 at 9:24 AM

Heard a soundbite on the news about this – a postal worker complaining that, “the post office is losing money, and I didn’t get a raise last year and I now I won’t next year”.

I like to think that whoever put together that sound bite was laughing the whole time. Only in big government world could someone expect to get a raise from an enterprise that is failing…

negentropy on November 30, 2010 at 9:24 AM

Not serious triangulation, but more like smoke and mirrors. He’ll use his usual smoke and mirrors to give the appearance of triangulation, but nothing of substance will change.

petefrt on November 30, 2010 at 9:30 AM

Obama’ announcement is PR BS.

Contrary to the claims here that Federal employees are overpaid,

Bureau of Labor Statistics data indicate federal employees were paid 24 percent less on average than their private sector counterparts in 2010, compared to 22 percent less in 2009.

http://www.govexec.com/story_page.cfm?articleid=46420&dcn=todaysnews

These raises are and always have been catch up to private sector salaries.

Obama’s plan saves $ 2 billion. As noted in the earlier post, $ 125 billion is lost to improper payments. There is probably billions more of fraud, waste, and abuse.

How many billions is spent by Congress on earmarks?

How many billions would be saved if the Departments of Agriculture, Commerce, Education, Energy, Health and Human Services, Housing, Interior, Labor, and Transportation were eliminated in toto or greatly reduced?

How about eliminating subsides to farmers so that the US is exporting much more food overseas?

How about Congress refusing to fund EEOC fairness doctrine and net neutrality initiatives?

slp on November 30, 2010 at 9:34 AM

All democratic nations should have laws setting the pay and benefits for all government employees at 75% of what they would get in the private sector.

No person should be allowed to work for the government for more than 5 – 10 years. Government ‘service’ should not be a viable career path.

I decided it was time to leave Canada permanently once a friend suggested I get a government job and I considered it for a few seconds. Being a white, straight, Catholic male, there would be no chance I’d be hired anyway.

Canadian Infidel on November 30, 2010 at 9:38 AM

Canadian Infidel on November 30, 2010 at 9:38 AM

So you obviously believe that those who keep our nation secure from cyber attacks and terrorist attacks (for example) should be contractors. Who make two or three times what federal employees make.

Or we should depend on the inexperienced to protect us from cyber attacks on our defense networks by the Chinese, etc.

Or we should just trust in the kindness of our enemies. They mean us no harm.

NoDonkey on November 30, 2010 at 9:43 AM

All democratic nations should have laws setting the pay and benefits for all government employees at 75% of what they would get in the private sector.

No person should be allowed to work for the government for more than 5 – 10 years. Government ‘service’ should not be a viable career path.

I decided it was time to leave Canada permanently once a friend suggested I get a government job and I considered it for a few seconds. Being a white, straight, Catholic male, there would be no chance I’d be hired anyway.

Canadian Infidel on November 30, 2010 at 9:38 AM

See… here’s the problem with that… there are legitimately some government jobs that require genuine expertise. You get what you pay for. So, paying an FBI agent the same as you’d pay a Walmart clerk is going to get you the expertise of a Walmart clerk.

Yeah… there’s ALOT of waste within the ranks of government employees, and we need to address that. But the legitimate functions of federal government require good people. And you’re not going to get them at Walmart.

Murf76 on November 30, 2010 at 9:54 AM

NoDonkey on November 30, 2010 at 9:43 AM

DHS is at best the Keystone Kops. There is so much duplication and waste in all the ‘security and defense’ agencies that even you would be embarrassed. I worked in aerospace for 20+ years and 11 years in the military, the civilian(union) employees are by far the most over-paid and under utilized(non-productive) people I have ever been unfortunate to work beside.

belad on November 30, 2010 at 9:55 AM

Democrat president compromises with Republicans:

Triangulation, president is clever and bold

Republican president compromises with Democrats:

Caving in to opposition, president is stupid and cowardly

fogw on November 30, 2010 at 10:03 AM

No. The beginning of the triangulation was the missile defense agreement with NATO and Russia. This is step #2.

strictnein on November 30, 2010 at 10:05 AM

belad on November 30, 2010 at 9:55 AM

Disagree but even if you are correct, what’s a temporary freeze on everyone’s pay going to do?

This also goes back to why we need legislators who know what they are doing.

Perhaps there is a lot of fat. Is someone who has never worked in the DoD going to be able to ID it?

No. Like posts on this board, “just cut it by X%”.

Then the fat is balanced equally by those who keep the nation secure.

NoDonkey on November 30, 2010 at 10:07 AM

NoDonkey on November 30, 2010 at 9:43 AM

Exactly.

What’s really annoying me right now with Republicans is that they keep falling into the same sorry mindset as their Democrat counterparts. They seem to believe that “cookie-cutter” platitudes are a good substitute for thoughtful governance. It’s just as much about Politics for them as it is for the left.

What we need is SMART governance. You can’t take a complicated problem and apply a one-size-fits-all solution to it. A 30-year employee at the DOD isn’t worth the same as a 10-year employee at the FDA, not when they’re both doing good work in their assigned jobs.

Republicans really do need to avoid the political one-liners, roll their sleeves up, and do the hard work.

Murf76 on November 30, 2010 at 10:10 AM

How about a hiring freeze and a pay freeze?

How about offering to staff the government at 2006 levels with 2006 salaries, with a pay freeze?

How about rolling the GS Schedule back about, oh, a decade?

‘Triangulation’ requires offering something that actually has some real impact and then forcing your opponents to fight it out on the ground you defined. Obama can’t do that as he wants it all. Clinton could.

Now the next Congress will get to define its grounds with the great benefit of not spending more than it wants to… which is set by the House. There is no ‘Triangulation’ with a House setting the agenda: you take it or you leave it. That is the way Obama has played and that is the terms of the game as he wants it, so now he will get it. He will seek the sun, moon and sky… I expect him to get breadcrumbs at this rate.

ajacksonian on November 30, 2010 at 10:22 AM

Yep, now Barry is finally in the game, mixing it up and throwing elbows.

/s

Yoop on November 30, 2010 at 10:23 AM

slp on November 30, 2010 at 9:34 AM

Did you get lost at the AFL-CIO blog?

Buy Danish on November 30, 2010 at 10:23 AM

NoDonkey on November 30, 2010 at 10:07 AM

Do you feel more secure after the latest round of WikiLeaks, or maybe the insane porous southern border that acts as a buffer for the drug wars and invasion from the south?

belad on November 30, 2010 at 10:25 AM

NoDonkey on November 30, 2010 at 9:43 AM
Murf76 on November 30, 2010 at 9:54 AM

You’re right. I should have been more specific.
There are jobs, mostly in defense, where the people deserve good pay since their skills are highly sought and needed.

But the vast amount of government employees whose main job is not to protect the nation – the bureaucrats, whose only job is create paper, regulations which hamper business, or create and administer entitlement programs need to be curtailed.

When government employment becomes the hope and dream of most of the citizenry, your country is in trouble.

Canadian Infidel on November 30, 2010 at 10:28 AM

slp on November 30, 2010 at 9:34 AM

Did you get lost at the AFL-CIO blog?

Buy Danish on November 30, 2010 at 10:23 AM

There is a lot of misstatement of the facts about Federal employee pay in this post and the comments here.

slp on November 30, 2010 at 10:32 AM

Faking it won’t work. Those days are over.

Do something significant, or don’t do it at all.

forest on November 30, 2010 at 10:32 AM

There is a lot of misstatement of the facts about Federal employee pay in this post and the comments here.
slp on November 30, 2010 at 10:32 AM

Unions get paid higher wages at the lower levels. They whine about pay inequality because they don’t make as much as corporate CEOs at the top end. Is that what you want to make clear?

Buy Danish on November 30, 2010 at 10:42 AM

Canadian Infidel on November 30, 2010 at 10:28 AM

That’s why I really want to see Republicans avoiding the politically expedient one-liners, and addressing specific problems within specific agencies. Sure… even in otherwise legitimate federal expenditures, we can find some waste.

As you said, we have legions of pencil-pushers who aren’t necessary. We have bloated agencies who are causing more problems than they’re worth. Let’s address THAT, instead of looking for across-the-board freezes and pay cuts.

Let’s figure out, for just one example, WHY we’re paying the FDA to add billions onto drug costs, and yet we’ve got ambulance-chasers out filing class-action in half the time in takes to bring a new drug to market. We pay for that with our taxpayer dollars, and then we pay again at the drugstore, and then we pay again for health insurance increases.

Murf76 on November 30, 2010 at 11:00 AM

Haah, he’s too rigid an ideologue to triangulate. Triangulation is not exactly Alinksy, and that’s all that Bammie knows.

slickwillie2001 on November 30, 2010 at 11:07 AM

Will Obama show that kind of courage on serious cuts in government and entitlements, especially when his base is the only support he has at this point in his term?

..ed, respectfully, wish in one hand and crap in the other and see which fills up first.

The War Planner on November 30, 2010 at 11:39 AM

could be an early sign of White House efforts to move toward the political center in advance of the 2012 election.

Makes sense, they can read polls.

Moesart on November 30, 2010 at 11:45 AM

As I stated yesterday on here, Obama is only going to go so far in what he “concedes” or how he “traingulates.” He will find small and symbolic pockets here and there as he did yesterday with the federal pay freeze, and he will use that as fodder for 2012. However, when it comes to 90 to 95% of your large scale/big ticket issues, he will become Clinton-Lite.

Why?

Because whereas Clinton was more then willing to abandon the left in order to win the middle, Obama is FAR more in lock step and reliant upon that far left, and thus unable to hand them or their issues over to Republicans, especially when he will need all the allies he can get to form a firewall around his accomplishments (Obamacare, Wall Street Reform, etc) to ensure they are not repealed and or dramtically altered.

The man is far from dumb, and will attempt to move closer to the center for his political survival, BUT only as far as the “World of Soros” will let him. President Obama owes far more to that “World” and is far more genetically composed of that worlds “makeup” then a post-94 Bill Clinton.

Indy82 on November 30, 2010 at 12:11 PM

Timing is all now. He’ll make the key compromises when the public timing is best.

AnninCA on November 30, 2010 at 12:23 PM

Because whereas Clinton was more then willing to abandon the left in order to win the middle, Obama is FAR more in lock step and reliant upon that far left, and thus unable to hand them or their issues over to Republicans, especially when he will need all the allies he can get to form a firewall around his accomplishments (Obamacare, Wall Street Reform, etc) to ensure they are not repealed and or dramtically altered.

The man is far from dumb, and will attempt to move closer to the center for his political survival, BUT only as far as the “World of Soros” will let him. President Obama owes far more to that “World” and is far more genetically composed of that worlds “makeup” then a post-94 Bill Clinton.

Indy82 on November 30, 2010 at 12:11 PM

I agree. There is a fundamental difference between Clinton and Obama, and you nailed it.

I personally think Obama’s strategy will fail.

AnninCA on November 30, 2010 at 12:29 PM

Next will be a GM style bankruptcy of the State of California whereby all creditors get screwed and only union salaries/pensions get funded. It is the art of illusion, hard medicine without the hard medicine. A well marketed placebo. Of course, the rest of the world is on to Slick Barry, so the joke is on us if we re-elect him.

Angry Dumbo on November 30, 2010 at 12:47 PM

This move, while warranted, was poorly timed. Last week the NSPS based raises were announced to employees in the Civilian workforce. Then after the weekend of happiness, they are cancelled. If this announcement that we cannot afford raises came two weeks ago, it would have been a matter of “not getting something you don’t already have” now it is a matter of “taking away something you thought you had”. This is poor psychology and a needless way of making a pay freeze look like a pay cut.

KW64 on November 30, 2010 at 12:50 PM

Pay freeze, uh?

Just wait till you see who gets exempt from this.

Never trust what Obama says.

Sir Napsalot on November 30, 2010 at 1:15 PM

If you didn’t see Bambi’s plan to tack right,you weren’t looking.The only transparency in this administration was how transparent Bambi’s “Clenis plan” is.
Reading the comments on these threads I get the feeling that many people are already taking the bait.

DDT on November 30, 2010 at 2:42 PM