Quotes of the day

posted at 10:15 pm on November 29, 2010 by Allahpundit

“Federal authorities are investigating whether WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange violated criminal laws in the group’s release of government documents, including possible charges under the Espionage Act, sources familiar with the inquiry said Monday…

“Former prosecutors cautioned that prosecutions involving leaked classified information are difficult because the Espionage Act is a 1917 statute that preceded Supreme Court cases that expanded First Amendment protections. The government also would have to persuade another country to turn over Assange, who is outside the United States…

“Holder was asked Monday how the United States could prosecute Assange, who is an Australian citizen. ‘Let me be very clear,’ he replied. ‘It is not saber rattling.’…

“[W]hen it comes to Assange, Jeffrey H. Smith, a former CIA general counsel, said: ‘I’m confident that the Justice Department is figuring out how to prosecute him.’”

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“Mr. Assange is clearly trying to protect himself from such an indictment by inviting the New York Times, the Guardian and Der Spiegel to be his co-publishers. Newspapers used to understand that the right of the First Amendment implied some publishing self-restraint. But as publishers ourselves, we nonetheless worry that indicting a bad actor like Mr. Assange under an ambiguous statute would set a precedent that could later be used against journalists.

“One alternative would be for Congress and the Administration to collaborate on writing a new statute aimed more precisely at provocateurs like Mr. Assange. At a minimum, the Administration should throw the book at those who do the leaking, including the option of the death penalty. That would probably give second thoughts to the casual spy or to leakers who fancy themselves as idealists.

“For all of his self-justification as an agent of ‘pure’ transparency, Mr. Assange is not serving the interest of free societies. His mass, indiscriminate exposure of anything labeled secret that he can lay his hands on is a hostile act against a democracy that is fighting a war against forces bent on killing innocents. Surely, the U.S. government can do more to stop him than send a stiff letter.”

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“First and foremost, what steps were taken to stop Wikileaks director Julian Assange from distributing this highly sensitive classified material especially after he had already published material not once but twice in the previous months? Assange is not a ‘journalist,’ any more than the ‘editor’ of al Qaeda’s new English-language magazine Inspire is a ‘journalist.’ He is an anti-American operative with blood on his hands. His past posting of classified documents revealed the identity of more than 100 Afghan sources to the Taliban. Why was he not pursued with the same urgency we pursue al Qaeda and Taliban leaders?

“What if any diplomatic pressure was brought to bear on NATO, EU, and other allies to disrupt Wikileaks’ technical infrastructure? Did we use all the cyber tools at our disposal to permanently dismantle Wikileaks? Were individuals working for Wikileaks on these document leaks investigated? Shouldn’t they at least have had their financial assets frozen just as we do to individuals who provide material support for terrorist organizations?

“Most importantly, serious questions must also be asked of the U.S. intelligence system. How was it possible that a 22-year-old Private First Class could get unrestricted access to so much highly sensitive information? And how was it possible that he could copy and distribute these files without anyone noticing that security was compromised?”

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Via the Right Scoop.


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I do remember Dick Morris saying Hillary’s State Department would be very leaky. Very, very leaky.

SouthernGent on November 29, 2010 at 10:29 PM

Why? Is this a tactic? My husband’s reaction was that the state department was allowing this out for some reason… this is a controlled leak.

I don’t think so but it is a possibility. It does strengthen some positions… like against North Korea… China isn’t completely opposed to reunification. That should scare the Kims.

If this is what it claims to be, an accidental leak. Hillary should be taking more heat. And the NYTs should be prosecuted as a war criminal for willingly helping the enemy.

Also the UN is put on notice that they are being watched. There may be a reason for that.

Instead they are going after a 22 year-old, while the people who should have stopped it… and not published it for the world… get off without stain.

petunia on November 29, 2010 at 11:51 PM

Listening to the videoI posted,there mentioning Skype,and
there close to getting around that!!!

This is a Communication Terrorist Organization!!

canopfor on November 29, 2010 at 11:54 PM

I don’t care if Assange is from the dark side of the Moon, he and Manning are still treasonous weasels.

kingsjester on November 29, 2010 at 11:57 PM

The NYTimes for one is long overdue for a major spanking. Shut them down as a collaborator. That should send the right message to the rest.

pedestrian on November 29, 2010 at 11:58 PM

This just in: Wikileaks founder Assange offered a home by Socialist Latin American regime with close ties to Chávez, narcotrafficking, Iran and Syria.

This whole affair smacks of a coordinated international effort to undermine the United States, with definite involvement of some high-placed fifth columnists among us.

steebo77 on November 30, 2010 at 12:00 AM

canopfor on November 29, 2010 at 11:51 PM

Apology Tour 2.0 – The Groveling

Kini on November 30, 2010 at 12:01 AM

canopfor on November 29, 2010 at 11:51 PM
=================
Apology Tour 2.0 – The Groveling

Kini on November 30, 2010 at 12:01 AM

Kini: Coming soon…..Day of Reckoning…..the Jackal
eats a HellFire!:)

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 12:05 AM

This whole affair smacks of a coordinated international effort to undermine the United States, with definite involvement of some high-placed fifth columnists among us.

steebo77 on November 30, 2010 at 12:00 AM

steebo77:Yup,looks like a pattern so far!

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 12:09 AM

This whole affair smacks of a coordinated international effort to undermine the United States, with definite involvement of some high-placed fifth columnists among us.

steebo77 on November 30, 2010 at 12:00 AM

Yup,looks like a pattern so far!

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 12:09 AM

Some are shocked, shocked by the obvious

Kini on November 30, 2010 at 12:14 AM

From Zero Hedge (investment site):

Wikileaks Next Target: “A Big US Bank.”

“This is gonna be BIG.”
–William Shatner

Emperor Norton on November 30, 2010 at 12:19 AM

Act Unilateraly!!

Best statement of the whole interview.

OkieDoc on November 30, 2010 at 12:21 AM

“This is gonna be F’ING BIG.”
William Shatner Joe “Plugs” Biden

Emperor Norton on November 30, 2010 at 12:19 AM

That’s better

Kini on November 30, 2010 at 12:30 AM

This whole affair smacks of a coordinated international effort to undermine the United States, with definite involvement of some high-placed fifth columnists among us.

steebo77 on November 30, 2010 at 12:00 AM

That’s why Obama is not able to do anything about this. It would alienate his base.

pedestrian on November 30, 2010 at 12:35 AM

Just got up to pee..

OmahaConservative on November 30, 2010 at 12:40 AM

Looks around, going back to bed.

OmahaConservative on November 30, 2010 at 12:41 AM

Emperor Norton on November 30, 2010 at 12:19 AM

If you read through all that, then here is an answer:

(The new system doesn’t allow you to borrow money to use to borrow more money. That creates inflation and the one of the key ingredients of this new system is a return to the times when your take-home pay really took home what your family needed – the EXACT OPPOSITE of what we see today.)

This is a staementat the end of a 30 page white-paper by Clinton E. Lovell, “Lovellian Economics”.

I am not, admitrdly, and economist, but this has a certain “R-I-N-G” to it.

What am I missing?

OkieDoc on November 30, 2010 at 12:57 AM

eh, besides spell check

OkieDoc on November 30, 2010 at 12:59 AM

Another multi-million dollar apology tour complete with sucking cronies for Resident Obama.

Thank you or should I say …. F*ck U Wikileaks and the LGF pride, Manning!

TheAlamos on November 30, 2010 at 1:26 AM

This is how 0bama gets “everybody” behind the “urgent” need to regulate and control the internet.

ndanielson on November 30, 2010 at 2:13 AM

Via Ms Underestimated

The Right Scoop has a bit of the transcript of a 5 minute YouTube clip of Lt Col Ralph Peters in an interview.

“Because President Obama is a gutless wonder who cared more about his left-wing free cyberspace base than he did about protecting the security of the United States. No President in modern times has done anything this rotten! … President Obama has overseen the gravest compromise, the greatest willful compromise – because he did nothing – of our national security of any president in my lifetime!”

After a very quick scan of this thread I don’t think that this video was posted already, but I think the comments at TRS and here are coming at it from slightly different angles. That was my first impression after a quick scan.

Brass on November 30, 2010 at 3:01 AM

I can’t remember which show it was tonight –OR or Hannity– mentioned the NYT can’t print any of the released documents from ClimateGate, but have no problem posting WikiLeaks and any al-Qaeda documents.

This was originally brought up at –Watts Up With That?– when they called out the NYT yesterday. Worth having a look if just not for the Hypocrisy Meter animated gif.

Brass on November 30, 2010 at 3:10 AM

This is how 0bama gets “everybody” behind the “urgent” need to regulate and control the internet.

ndanielson on November 30, 2010 at 2:13 AM

Part of the Communist Manifesto, which Obama and his goons are carrying out:

Nationalizing the Travel Industry
Nationalizing the Manufacturing Industry
Nationalizing the Food Industry

We will end up like North Korea if Obama is not stopped.

Kini on November 30, 2010 at 3:23 AM

OT

I seem to be giving everyone a plug tonight so I might as well do one more. This is a powerful YouTube of Nigel Farage blasting both barrels at the EU. If I’m not mistaken I think his other videos have been posted on Hot Air.

Anyhow, it is a long article from The Blaze with the new video clip along with Farage’s other clips of him ripping a new hole in the EU fabric.

Does Viral Anti-Euro Rant Signal Rise of British ‘Tea Party?’

Nigel Farage may not be a name familiar name for many Americans, but his message to the European Union this week echoed the familiar anti-spending slogans of America’s tea party movement.

Earlier this week, Farage, the leader of the UK Independence Party and co-president of Europe of Freedom and Democracy (EFD), spoke out against the EU for allowing member states to get into debt and bailing them out at the expense of the ordinary people of Europe. All this in the name of cohesion, he suggests, marks significant threats to democracy.

“We don’t want that flag, we don’t want the anthem, we don’t want this political class,” Farage said. “We want the whole thing consigned to the dustbin of history.”

“Just who the hell do you think you people are? You are very, very dangerous people indeed,” he said. “Your obsession with creating this Euro-State means that you’re happy to destroy democracy. You appear to be happy for millions and millions of people to be unemployed and to be poor. Untold millions must suffer so that your Euro-Dream can continue.”

Lots more to the article, along with the video clips.

Brass on November 30, 2010 at 3:25 AM

While WikiLeaks runs rampant!!
==================================

Department of Justice

Office of Public Affairs

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Monday, November 29, 2010

Federal Courts Order Seizure of 82 Website Domains Involved in Selling Counterfeit Goods as Part of DOJ and ICE Cyber Monday Crackdown

WASHINGTON – Seizure orders have been executed against 82 domain names of commercial websites engaged in the illegal sale and distribution of counterfeit goods and copyrighted works as part of Operation In Our Sites v. 2.0, Attorney General Eric Holder and Director John Morton of the Department of Homeland Security’s Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) announced today.

http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2010/November/10-ag-1355.html
===============================================

http://www.defense.gov/home/features/2010/0410_cybersec/
—-

http://www.stratcom.mil/factsheets/cc/
—-

WikiLeaks only interested in damaging U.S. foreign policy

The latest dump of classified information stolen from the U.S. government is extraordinarily damaging to U.S. national security, but not in the way that WikiLeaks founder, Julian Assange, apparently intended. (If the summer leak was a gusher what does that make this latest round, a tsunami?)

http://shadow.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/11/29/wikileaks_only_interested_in_damaging_us_foreign_policy
——————–

Remarks to the Press on the Release of Confidential Documents
Hillary Rodham Clinton
Secretary of State

Treaty Room
Washington, DC
November 29, 2010

http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2010/11/152078.htm
————-

VIA
****

Tuesday, November 30, 2010
Funintended Consequences

http://greatsatansgirlfriend.blogspot.com/

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 5:35 AM

Can Wikileaks Be Designated an FTO? No, But What About IEEPA?
Monday, November 29, 2010

Representative Peter King has urged the State Department to consider designating Wikileaks a “foreign terrorist organization,” which among other things would implicate 18 USC 2339B (the 1996 material support statute, criminalizing the provision of any form of support or resources to designated FTOs). According to one report, King said:

“By doing that we will be able to seize their funds and go after anyone who provides them with any help or contributions or assistance whatsoever,”…

I think it highly unlikely that the case could be made for designating Wikileaks an FTO, as the applicable statute ultimately does require a nexus with terrorism which so far as I know is entirely absent here. But that does not mean that the goal of subjecting Wikileaks to asset seizure and, well, an embargo of sorts, is out of reach. It’s just that the path lies with the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA), rather than the FTO framework; Representative King needs to contact Treasury, not State.
=====================================

http://www.lawfareblog.com/

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 6:29 AM

ndanielson on November 30, 2010 at 2:13 AM

*shudder*

cmsinaz on November 30, 2010 at 6:32 AM

While Wikileaks runs rampant!
=======================================

Federal Courts Order Seizure of 82 Website Domains Involved in Selling Counterfeit Goods as Part of DOJ and ICE Cyber Monday Crackdown

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Monday, November 29, 2010

WASHINGTON – Seizure orders have been executed against 82 domain names of commercial websites engaged in the illegal sale and distribution of counterfeit goods and copyrighted works as part of Operation In Our Sites v. 2.0, Attorney General Eric Holder and Director John Morton of the Department of Homeland Security’s Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) announced today.

http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2010/November/10-ag-1355.html
———————————————–

VIA
*****
Tuesday, November 30, 2010
Funintended Consequences

http://greatsatansgirlfriend.blogspot.com/

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 6:34 AM

Freaggin OuchaRoo
========================

Wikileaks founder: ‘Obama stifles freedom of the press’
11/30/2010 09:50

Ecuador’s deputy FM: We are ready to give Assange asylum with no conditions; US launching criminal investigation into possible espionage.

Wikileaks founder Julian Assange said in a video that US President Barack Obama’s administration “doesn’t believe in freedom of the press and doesn’t act like it believes it,” UK paper The Telegraph reported on Tuesday.

http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?ID=197336&R=R1

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 6:38 AM

Palin Blasts “Incompetent” Obama Admin., Says “I Can Stop WikiLeaks”
================

Nov 29, 2010 at 5:40 pm

Washington — Sarah Palin says the U.S. government’s inability to stop the latest WikiLeaks release is all President Barack Obama’s fault.

Sunday’s document dump of classified State Department cables is the result of the “Obama administration’s incompetent handling of this whole fiasco,” Palin wrote in a Monday afternoon Facebook post, and could have been precluded with more aggressive action by administration officials to protect private documents.

http://newsone.com/nation/washington-watch/newsonestaff2/sarah-palin-can-stop-wikileaks/

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 6:42 AM

Freaggin OuchaRoo

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 6:38 AM

indeed

cmsinaz on November 30, 2010 at 6:45 AM

This really p*sses me off
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The real question: Who will trust Washington ever again?

Monday, November 29, 2010 | 7:18 PM ET

The number of “Secret” and “Confidential” U.S. documents now made public has reached such a flood tide that it seems like the very edifice of the superpower is cracking before our eyes.

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/11/29/f-vp-stewart.html#ixzz16lVsQup8

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 6:46 AM

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 6:38 AM
======================
indeed

cmsinaz on November 30, 2010 at 6:45 AM

cmsinaz:Good Morning CZ—-:)

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 6:47 AM

indeed

cmsinaz on November 30, 2010 at 6:45 AM

cmsinaz: If you don’t have Fox,here ya go,they’ve been
talkin about AssLeakyWiki!:)
========================================================

http://atdhe.net/4371/watch-fox-news

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 6:50 AM

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 6:47 AM

Good morning from Scarberia :-)

gh on November 30, 2010 at 6:51 AM

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 6:47 AM
====================
Good morning from Scarberia :-)

gh on November 30, 2010 at 6:51 AM

gh:Great Scott,your in the Great State Province of
Ontario,due East of Toronto!!

And top of the morning to you as well!:)

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 7:02 AM

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 6:46 AM

Thanks for the link, good buddy.

OmahaConservative on November 30, 2010 at 7:07 AM

cmsinaz:Good Morning CZ—-:)

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 6:47 AM

good morning!

:)

cmsinaz on November 30, 2010 at 7:09 AM

http://atdhe.net/4371/watch-fox-news

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 6:50 AM

thanks!

cmsinaz on November 30, 2010 at 7:09 AM

http://atdhe.net/4371/watch-fox-news

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 6:50 AM

thanks!

cmsinaz on November 30, 2010 at 7:09 AM

Yep, thanks.
‘Morning cmsinaz.

OmahaConservative on November 30, 2010 at 7:10 AM

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/11/29/f-vp-stewart.html#ixzz16lVsQup8

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 6:46 AM

ditto

cmsinaz on November 30, 2010 at 7:11 AM

‘Morning cmsinaz.

OmahaConservative on November 30, 2010 at 7:10 AM

good morning OC :)

====
went to the cards game last night, not many happy campers here…

cmsinaz on November 30, 2010 at 7:13 AM

Yep, thanks.
‘Morning cmsinaz.

OmahaConservative on November 30, 2010 at 7:10 AM

OmahaConservative:Did you go #1,and good morning!
(I’m kidding on the wee-wee thingy):)

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 7:14 AM

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 6:50 AM
==============================
thanks!

cmsinaz on November 30, 2010 at 7:09 AM

cmsinaz:)

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 7:15 AM

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 7:14 AM

Yep. I hate that I have to get up to pee in the night. Didn’t have too when I was younger (unless I was drinking beer). I am home sick today from work. Sinus/bloody nose thing. Must be the change in climate. We had snow last night, finally.

OmahaConservative on November 30, 2010 at 7:19 AM

went to the cards game last night, not many happy campers here…

cmsinaz on November 30, 2010 at 7:13 AM

I’ll feel your pain for you…
;o)

OmahaConservative on November 30, 2010 at 7:21 AM

OmahaConservative on November 30, 2010 at 7:19 AM

hang in there

cmsinaz on November 30, 2010 at 7:21 AM

OmahaConservative on November 30, 2010 at 7:21 AM

thanks…time for a new QB

cmsinaz on November 30, 2010 at 7:22 AM

Did everyone read this, by Ed’s most excellent help meet?

OmahaConservative on November 30, 2010 at 7:23 AM

OmahaConservative on November 30, 2010 at 7:23 AM

yepper :)

cmsinaz on November 30, 2010 at 7:26 AM

let’s see how the msm will spin the little pow wow at the WH today….

cmsinaz on November 30, 2010 at 7:26 AM

cmsinaz on November 30, 2010 at 7:26 AM

Sure hope our side won’t budge on the Bush tax cuts.

OmahaConservative on November 30, 2010 at 7:29 AM

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 7:14 AM
======================
Yep. I hate that I have to get up to pee in the night. Didn’t have too when I was younger (unless I was drinking beer). I am home sick today from work. Sinus/bloody nose thing. Must be the change in climate. We had snow last night, finally.

OmahaConservative on November 30, 2010 at 7:19 AM

OmahaConservative:Had a cold last week,miserable to go
through!

Heres GOES 14 North American Cloud Cover,
and since your in Omaha,it looks like your
not getting whacked!:)
==========================================================

http://goes.gsfc.nasa.gov/goescolor/goeseast/overview2/color_lrg/latestfull.jpg

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 7:29 AM

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 7:29 AM

awesome pic.

OmahaConservative on November 30, 2010 at 7:31 AM

Did everyone read this, by Ed’s most excellent help meet?

OmahaConservative on November 30, 2010 at 7:23 AM

OmahaConservative:Wow,talk about over coming,and Ed’s
Second Mate also writes.Thanks for
the link OC!!

Ya were getting rain,I’ve got my GOES
going,wind obsevation site,and doppler
radar going!!:)

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 7:37 AM

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 7:37 AM

Ed Morrisey’s bounty and cup overfloweth…

OmahaConservative on November 30, 2010 at 7:44 AM

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 7:37 AM
===========================
Ed Morrisey’s bounty and cup overfloweth…

OmahaConservative on November 30, 2010 at 7:44 AM

OmahaConservative:Yes,blessings:)

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 7:49 AM

OmahaConservative on November 30, 2010 at 7:29 AM

me too…once they cave, the slippery slope begins…

cmsinaz on November 30, 2010 at 7:52 AM

Say, About That Old ‘Bush Lied’ Trope, Looks Like Wikileaks Proved Obama Repeatedly Lied About Middle East Policy

Runner-up headline: Obama lied, diplomacy died

Anyone remember that exactly one year ago President Obama’s original deadline for Iran expired?

Back in the halcyon days of hopeychange, newly minted President Barack Obama articulated his master plan for dealing with Iran. Mr. Peabody, set the Wayback Machine for May of 2009:

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 7:55 AM

Runner-up headline: Obama lied, diplomacy died

Anyone remember that exactly one year ago President Obama’s original deadline for Iran expired?

canopfor on November 30, 2010 at 7:55 AM

cmsinaz on November 30, 2010 at 8:00 AM

good point C

cmsinaz on November 30, 2010 at 8:00 AM

Tell me again why our government says we need “highly qualified” people with properly burnished diplomatic resumes?

Half a dozen average Joes off the street would be doing a better job than this. Term limits needs to go further than elected officials.

MarkT on November 30, 2010 at 8:25 AM

What a weak response by our government.

kingsjester on November 30, 2010 at 8:32 AM

Good questions. Makes you wonder how other countries would have handled a person like Assange. Our response has been weak and he should have somehow been stopped.

And slightly OT, Hillary should be fired. Like the Slate article says, not because she did anything we haven’t done in the past, but because no one will trust her now.

scalleywag on November 30, 2010 at 9:20 AM

Best President Ever!

RalphyBoy on November 30, 2010 at 11:19 AM

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