Wikileaks servers under DOS attack ahead of diplomatic document dump; Update: Times reveals documents; Update: Hillary ordered spying at the UN; Update: Iran obtains advanced missiles from North Korea? Update: Wikileaks posts intro to documents

posted at 1:29 pm on November 28, 2010 by Allahpundit

It’s probably not the feds who are responsible, simply because knocking the servers offline at this point achieves nothing. Wikileaks gave the documents to newspapers weeks ago; the first stories about the contents are set to drop this afternoon at around 4:30 p.m. Unless they’re being DOS’d purely out of spite, why bother?

I’m not sure what the point of this is either:

In a highly unusual step reflecting the administration’s grave concerns about the ramifications of the move, the State Department late Saturday released a letter from its top lawyer to WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange and his attorney telling them that publication of the documents would be illegal and demanding that they stop it

The letter from State Department legal adviser Harold Koh was released as U.S. diplomats around the world are scrambling to warn foreign governments about what might be in the secret documents that are believed to contain highly sensitive assessments about world leaders, their policies and America’s attempts to lobby them…

The State Department said Koh’s message was a response to a letter received on Friday by the U.S. ambassador to Britain, Louis Susman, from Assange and his lawyer, Jennifer Robinson. The department said that letter asked for information “regarding individuals who may be ‘at significant risk of harm’ because of” the release of the documents.

“Despite your stated desire to protect those lives, you have done the opposite and endangered the lives of countless individuals,” Koh wrote in reply. “You have undermined your stated objective by disseminating this material widely, without redaction, and without regard to the security and sanctity of the lives your actions endanger.”

Again, the Times has had these documents for ages. No doubt they’ve got a giant front-page feature about them set to publish tonight. Assange probably couldn’t stop them at this point even if he wanted to, in which case releasing the letter is really just the feds doing PR. I’m intrigued, though, that it’s Koh who signed it and not some lower-level functionary. Partly that’s to signal how seriously State is taking this, but possibly it’s also an attempt by the Obama administration to trade on Koh’s leftist credibility in rallying U.S. public opinion against Wikileaks. He’s been a liberal shortlister for Supreme Court vacancies since The One took office, notwithstanding his legal defense of drone strikes in Pakistan. Having him publicly warn Wikileaks about the damage they’re doing to U.S. interests might temper progressive enthusiasm for Assange from three cheers to, say, one.

Needless to say, Assange has already rejected Koh’s demands. And just to make sure that he wrings every drop of media attention he can get out of this, he’s arranged for the documents to be released in waves, ensuring a week’s worth of buzz for him and his group instead of a mere 48 hours. What sort of bombshell revelations can we expect? Well, apparently, there’s nothing “top secret” in the files; six percent qualify as “secret,” 40.5 percent are “classified,” and the rest aren’t confidential at all. Which doesn’t mean that they won’t be embarrassing:

A journalist with Britain’s Guardian newspaper said the files include an unflattering US assessment of UK PM David Cameron.

Simon Hoggart told the BBC: “There is going to be some embarrassment certainly for Gordon Brown but even more so for David Cameron who was not very highly regarded by the Obama administration or by the US ambassador here.”

More here, including a reference to Ahmadinejad as “Hitler,” and here, teasing the possibility that Turkey might have facilitated weapons smuggling to Al Qaeda in Iraq(!). Until today, one could argue (unpersuasively) that Wikileaks isn’t so much anti-American as it is anti-war; releasing secret docs about Iraq and Afghanistan supposedly would speed an end to the conflicts, forcing a U.S. withdrawal and leaving Iraqis and Afghans to enjoy a thousand years of kite-flying, occupation-free peace, etc. That’s moronic, but it’s more or less in line with traditional leftist policy priorities. What’s the “anti-war” motive, though, in releasing a few hundred thousand diplomatic cables? Progressives are forever telling us that we need to rely less on Defense and more on State, and yet it sounds like today’s leak will do much greater damage to the latter than the previous leaks did to the former. Not only will it strain U.S. diplomatic relationships, but the paranoia it’ll engender among U.S. diplomats about future communiques being exposed will cripple their ability to be candid. In fact, depending upon how sensitive the revelations are and which countries they involve, Wikileaks is potentially increasing the risk of war in the Middle East, on the Korean peninsula, or who knows where else. As Glenn Reynolds likes to say: They’re not anti-war, they’re just on the other side.

Just as I’m writing this, the Times has gone live with its news package about the documents. I’m off to go read. Back later with more.

Update: Spiegel and the Guardian have also released their document packages.

Update: Here’s a fun one from Spiegel. Let the outrageously outrageous progressive outrage begin!

US diplomats are alleged to have been requested by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to spy on the diplomats of other countries at the United Nations. That was the purpose of the “National Humint Collection Directive,” which has been seen by SPIEGEL. The document was signed by Clinton and came into force on July 31, 2009.

The information to be collected included personal credit card information, frequent flyer customer numbers, as well as e-mail and telephone accounts. In many cases the State Department also required “biometric information,” “passwords” and “personal encryption keys.” In the US, the term biometric information generally refers to fingerprints, passport photos and iris scans, among other things.

Hasn’t every country at the UN attempted to spy on every other country there since the day the building opened? C’mon.

Update: Someone on Twitter points out that the Times’s stories on the leaks contain the subhead “State Secrets — Day 1 of 9.”

Update: The Times claims it’s taken precautions to protect sources, including agreeing to some — but not all — redactions proposed by the White House: “The Times has taken care to exclude, in its articles and in supplementary material, in print and online, information that would endanger confidential informants or compromise national security. The Times’s redactions were shared with other news organizations and communicated to WikiLeaks, in the hope that they would similarly edit the documents they planned to post online.”

Update: One of the questions before the leak was whether there’d be any real news here or whether, like the war leaks, it’d fall into the “confirmation of stuff most people suspected anyway” category. Here’s an example of real news and an illustration of my point about how the leak will make war more, not less, likely. Given the fragility of the situation in North Korea, is now the moment to make bombshell public accusations against them?

Secret American intelligence assessments have concluded that Iran has obtained a cache of advanced missiles, based on a Russian design, that are much more powerful than anything Washington has publicly conceded that Tehran has in its arsenal, diplomatic cables show.

Iran obtained 19 of the missiles from North Korea, according to a cable dated Feb. 24 of this year. The cable is a detailed, highly classified account of a meeting between top Russian officials and an American delegation led by Vann H. Van Diepen, an official with the State Department’s nonproliferation division who, as a national intelligence officer several years ago, played a crucial role in the 2007 assessment of Iran’s nuclear capacity…

The missile intelligence also suggests far deeper military — and perhaps nuclear — cooperation between North Korea and Iran than was previously known. At the request of the Obama administration, The New York Times has agreed not to publish the text of the cable.

Other cables reveal King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia repeatedly urging the U.S. to bomb Iran’s nuclear facilities, which does fall into the “stuff everyone suspected” category but isn’t going to help Sunni/Shiite relations, especially if things come to a head in Lebanon over the findings of the Hariri tribunal. Among others urging action: Jordan, Bahrain, and Abu Dhabi.

Update: More rocking of the North Korean boat: The Times’s overview article mentions that the U.S. and South Korea have discussed how to bring about reunification on the peninsula. That’s firmly in the “stuff everyone suspected” category too, but if North Korea’s looking for a new pretext to justify a further provocation, an alleged foreign “plot” to dissolve the DPRK could be useful.

Also in that overview piece, here’s a way to further destabilize an already unstable country:

For instance, it has been previously reported that the Yemeni government has sought to cover up the American role in missile strikes against the local branch of Al Qaeda. But a cable’s fly-on-the-wall account of a January meeting between the Yemeni president, Ali Abdullah Saleh, and Gen. David H. Petraeus, then the American commander in the Middle East, is nonetheless breathtaking.

“We’ll continue saying the bombs are ours, not yours,” Mr. Saleh said, according to the cable sent by the American ambassador, prompting Yemen’s deputy prime minister to “joke that he had just ‘lied’ by telling Parliament” that Yemeni forces had carried out the strikes.

Yemenis surely already suspect that the U.S. is working against jihadis inside the country, but it’s one thing to suspect it and another to have hard evidence of Saleh merrily lying to the public to protect American interests. AQ will get a lot of propaganda mileage out of that.

Update: The point of leaking government documents, ostensibly, is to expose matters of urgent public interest. Sometimes that means revealing state crimes, sometimes it means exposing state disinformation, sometimes it simply means that something so important is going on that citizens need to know about it notwithstanding the value of secrecy. That said, what’s the “urgent public interest” in revealing this?

The US diplomats’ verdict on the NATO partner with the second biggest army in the alliance is devastating. The Turkish leadership is depicted as divided, and Erdogan’s advisers, as well as Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu, are portrayed as having little understanding of politics beyond Ankara.

The Americans are also worried about Davutoglu’s alleged neo-Ottoman visions. A high-ranking government adviser warned in discussions, quoted by the US diplomats, that Davutoglu would use his Islamist influence on Erdogan, describing him as “exceptionally dangerous.” According to the US document, another adviser to the ruling AKP party remarked, probably ironically, that Turkey wanted “to take back Andalusia and avenge the defeat at the siege of Vienna in 1683.”

Breaking news: Turkey is trending towards Islamism and looking to increase its regional influence. That’s not even a “stuff everyone suspects” item; it’s a “stuff everyone knows for a fact” item, adorned here with a few dark suspicions — which may or may not even be meant seriously — about the foreign minister. Is the public interest in knowing that Davutoglu isn’t to be trusted worth the strain this will put on U.S.-Turkish relations at a moment when we’re desperate to keep Turkey oriented towards the west and secularism? That is to say, what’s the ratio among the leaked documents of those that expose “urgent public matters” to those that simply embarrass the American diplomatic corps and alienate their foreign counterparts? If it’s important for the public to be informed of foreign relations down to the level of which international diplomats we do and don’t trust, then Congress should simply pass a law requiring all diplomatic messages to be made public immediately. See how that works out.

Update: Guardian contributor Simon Jenkins helpfully, and conveniently, obliterates the “urgent public interest” standard. Turns out everything, save for naming sources and details that might jeopardize military ops, is a matter of public interest now:

Anything said or done in the name of a democracy is, prima facie, of public interest. When that democracy purports to be “world policeman” – an assumption that runs ghostlike through these cables – that interest is global. Nonetheless, the Guardian had to consider two things in abetting disclosure, irrespective of what is anyway published by WikiLeaks. It could not be party to putting the lives of individuals or sources at risk, nor reveal material that might compromise ongoing military operations or the location of special forces.

And in case you’re wondering what his agenda is, he offers this: “America’s foreign policy is revealed as a slave to rightwing drift, terrified of a bomb exploding abroad or of a pro-Israeli congressman at home.”

Update: Ben Smith calls the revelations “a moment of remarkable impotence” for American diplomacy but finds a silver lining in the fact that it happened on Obama’s watch instead of Bush’s. True enough: The One’s international influence ain’t what it used to be, as his trip to Asia demonstrated, but he doesn’t draw the sort of venom abroad that the Bushitler did. That ought to make damage control marginally easier. On the other hand, it gives true anti-American factions ammo to persuade the Bush-haters that the problem isn’t Bush, it’s America. Under Dubya, this sort of mega-clusterfark could be spun internationally as further evidence of his personal incompetence, recklessness, malignancy, etc, but under Obama — who famously framed his foreign policy as, er, “smart power” — it’ll be proof that, as a systemic matter, U.S. national security isn’t nearly as secure as it should be. If you’re a foreign diplomat of whatever level, but especially among the higher ranks with political exposure at home, I don’t know how you’d trust the State Department to keep your confidence after this. Remarkable impotence indeed.

Update: Wikileaks is back online and armed with a characteristically smug, self-serving introduction to the documents:

This document release reveals the contradictions between the US’s public persona and what it says behind closed doors – and shows that if citizens in a democracy want their governments to reflect their wishes, they should ask to see what’s going on behind the scenes.

Every American schoolchild is taught that George Washington – the country’s first President – could not tell a lie. If the administrations of his successors lived up to the same principle, today’s document flood would be a mere embarrassment. Instead, the US Government has been warning governments — even the most corrupt — around the world about the coming leaks and is bracing itself for the exposures.

Ah, hypocrisy, the all-purpose excuse. We see that as a defense whenever some conservative sex scandal is exposed too: The aim, transparently, is to embarrass the target, but since that’s too petty a reason to justify so vicious a tactic, the exposure is unfailingly dressed up as some sort of high-minded attempt to make the target “live by his principles.” If you take this argument seriously, any confidential communication between government officials should be fair game for leaking so long as it somehow contradicts or questions, however glancingly, state policy. (Hypocrisy!) But of course, they’re not limiting publication to only those documents that undermine official State Department positions; as noted above in the context of Turkey’s foreign minister, a lot of this stuff will simply be bits of intelligence about various international actors and speculation about their motives. Nothing “hypocritical” about it — but mighty embarrassing. In fact, there’s nothing “hypocritical” about arguably the biggest revelation thus far, the report of North Korea shipping missiles to Iran. That sort of cooperation goes straight back to Bush’s “axis of evil” speech; theories about collaboration between the two are a staple of proliferation analyses. There’s no U.S. government “lie” that needs to be exposed there, in other words. It’s simply a case of Wikileaks trying to weaken America’s hand by revealing some of the cards that it’s holding.

Two other points. One: Note that they don’t say they wouldn’t have published the documents if the crucial hypocrisy component was missing. On the contrary, in their sonorous meditation about George Washington, they suggest that they would have done so anyway even though the damage to U.S. interests would have been greatly diminished. That’s further evidence that it’s confidentiality itself that they object to, not hypocrisy, and it follows Simon Jenkins’s lead in ignoring the usual balancing act when weighing the merits of a leak between the sensitivity of the information and the public’s interest in knowing about it. Wikileaks would have you believe that confidential government communications are so inherently anti-democratic that exposing them is virtually always in the public interest, no matter what collateral damage might result. No country in the world has ever followed that standard and no country ever will. Two: To the extent that they do take the hypocrisy standard seriously, does that mean that less democratic nations aren’t fair game for leaks because, hey, at least they’re living by their principles? Wikileaks’s lack of interest to date in revealing state secrets of, say, China is mighty conspicuous given that cracking Beijing’s culture of secrecy would be a far greater intel coup than publishing U.S. diplomatic cables and might even have major political repercussions for the Chinese regime. But then, China isn’t “hypocritical,” you see. And of course China also isn’t likely to tolerate damaging leaks like this the way liberal western nations are.

I’ll leave you with this thought, via Danger Room:

Ronald Neumann, who served as U.S. ambassador to Afghanistan from 2005 to 2007, tells Danger Room he fears the impact of forced candor on U.S. foreign relations. “A man might say things to his wife about his mother-in-law that he would be horrified to hear her repeat to her mother and the doing of which might even put great strain on his marriage,” Neumann says. “That is what a lot of classification is about. I believe it serves the public. There is always an argument for publicizing malfeasance. I do not believe there is one for making more difficult just getting on with the nation’s diplomatic business.”

Update: If there’s a big winner thus far from the leaks, the emerging consensus is that — irony of ironies — it’s Israel. The JPost is crowing about vindication, pointing to the urgency of Sunni demands in private chats with the U.S. to do something about Iran’s nuclear program. Says Eli Lake, “Wikileaks cables suggest actually that Israel was less bullish on bombing Iran than most Arab states.” And Omri Ceren takes it a step further, wondering why it is that Sunni Arabs seem so focused in the cables on hitting Iran when American leftists are forever insisting that (a) the Iranian threat is overstated and (b) a Palestinian state is the true key to regional peace and eventual Iranian disarmament. Good question.


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I guees Allah is trying to get his “Hmmm” and “Oh my” quota filled by the end of the week.

The Notorious G.O.P on November 28, 2010 at 7:14 PM

canopfor on November 28, 2010 at 7:04 PM

mit Respekt

Herr Obama dach fail. Everyone sees

Key West Reader on November 28, 2010 at 7:11 PM

Key West Reader:Veddy good,herr Ilsa,Lame Duckenzee
hypocrisy!:)

canopfor on November 28, 2010 at 7:16 PM

I wonder what Obama thinks of Team Right!

canopfor on November 28, 2010 at 7:17 PM

I saw the last update. It shows a lack of knowledge about keeping a country safe.
George Washington was a much better spymaster that he was a general. He knew how to get and use intelligence. And how to keep quiet.

Assange’s stated reasons are absolute rubbish. Where’s Smerch when we need them?

NaCly dog on November 28, 2010 at 7:17 PM

Hey, Allah?

Point of order.

Could you put a time stamp on your updates?

Thanks for your diligence!

turfmann on November 28, 2010 at 7:20 PM

I wonder what Obama thinks of Team Right!

canopfor on November 28, 2010 at 7:17 PM

Whatever they program TOTUS to tell him, so it changes all the time.

bluemarlin on November 28, 2010 at 7:23 PM

Here is what will come out within the next 4 weeks.

Bear in mind that you as Americans should prepare apprpropriately, meaning… if you are paying banks for the mortgage and pay the credit cards understand that everything changed only 2 weeks ago.

Banks under HAMP made money by qualifying people for 3 months but it was a farce. After qualifying under HAMP they dropped all homeowners.

Banks were bailed out. They have looted the treasury. Money is now in Nicaragua and in Africa. Pay credit cards, pay Africa and Nicaraugua. There are still stupid Americans thinking about doing the right thing.

Commercial buildings will be raided in 3 months. After the new year; it will be by the Unions who will be upset because they were duped. They can have the buildings, hope they don’t get the people in them

Municipalities and State Houses will hold strong. In certain States. Progressive holds will falter and things will burn. Not schools. Other Government buildings.

They’re going to extend Unemploymenet Benefits. When that stops and when the food stamps stop and when the housing benefits stop and when the WIC benefits stop?

Key West Reader on November 28, 2010 at 7:25 PM

canopfor on November 28, 2010 at 7:17 PM
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Whatever they program TOTUS to tell him, so it changes all the time.

bluemarlin on November 28, 2010 at 7:23 PM

bluemarlin:True,I’m thinking Obama has some choice phrases
for certain Conservatives!!:)

canopfor on November 28, 2010 at 7:25 PM

profitsbeard: You are correct in identifying Assage’s behavior as anarchist espionage.

I think that we have many moles riddled throughout our State Department, too.

It is doubly ironic that our people describe Sarkozy as a “naked emperor.” Then what is ObaMao, pray tell?

Only the naive believe that there is no spying going on via diplomat HQs. Every country in the world uses its embassy as a hotbed of intelligence collection through parties, indirection, misdirection, gossip, and propaganda. To think that America alone engages in this type of activity is foolish (and deadly to our interests) indeed.

onlineanalyst on November 28, 2010 at 7:28 PM

I guess Allah is trying to get his “Hmmm” and “Oh my” quota filled by the end of the week.
The Notorious G.O.P on November 28, 2010 at 7:14 PM

I’ll see your “Hmm” and “Oh my” and raise you two “Aws” and one “Dude”.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on November 28, 2010 at 7:32 PM

Here is what will come out within the next 4 weeks.

Bear in mind that you as Americans should prepare apprpropriately, meaning… if you are paying banks for the mortgage and pay the credit cards understand that everything changed only 2 weeks ago.

Key West Reader on November 28, 2010 at 7:25 PM

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canopfor on November 28, 2010 at 7:32 PM

Linked: ‘WikiLeaks Diplomatic Cables’.

Donald Douglas on November 28, 2010 at 7:35 PM

Julian Assange is a true humanitarian brother.

canopfor on November 28, 2010 at 6:41 PM

Julian Assange is a coward, hiding behind the skirts of democracy. He doesn’t have the courage of a Andrei Sakharov
or an Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. These men in the jaws of a totalitarian society spoke the truth and were heroes. Assange is a puny little soul standing on the shoulders of men better than he is.

When “Ass”ange starts leaking Chinese secrets or Russian ones I’ll be open to considering him as something other than the slug that he is. Until then he’s a pitiful soul waiting for a rape trial to take him out of the spotlight for good.

itsspideyman on November 28, 2010 at 7:36 PM

Well said, itsspideyman. Assange has an axe to grind against America. Whose payroll is he on? How does he profit from creating this mayhem?

onlineanalyst on November 28, 2010 at 7:39 PM

How does he profit from creating this mayhem?
onlineanalyst on November 28, 2010 at 7:39 PM

He’s a hero to millions. Thassall.

Akzed on November 28, 2010 at 7:49 PM

Well said, itsspideyman. Assange has an axe to grind against America. Whose payroll is he on? How does he profit from creating this mayhem?

onlineanalyst on November 28, 2010 at 7:39 PM

Is that the stink of the liberals’ favorite Nazi stooge, -George Soros that I smell on this story?

slickwillie2001 on November 28, 2010 at 7:49 PM

They’re going to extend Unemploymenet Benefits. When that stops and when the food stamps stop and when the housing benefits stop and when the WIC benefits stop?

Key West Reader on November 28, 2010 at 7:25 PM

Did you by any chance catch this one or is it old news?

Union Drops Health Coverage for Workers’ Children-SEIU

CannedTomatoes on November 28, 2010 at 7:51 PM

Assange is a puny little soul standing on the shoulders of men better than he is.

itsspideyman on November 28, 2010 at 7:36 PM

Smarmy little self-righteous intellectual, isn’t he?

AZfederalist on November 28, 2010 at 7:51 PM

Assange is a puny little soul standing on the shoulders of men better than he is.

itsspideyman on November 28, 2010 at 7:36 PM

Smarmy little self-righteous intellectual, isn’t he?

/I did not apply strikeout to my quote — this is what it was supposed to look like

AZfederalist on November 28, 2010 at 7:53 PM

bluemarlin:True,I’m thinking Obama has some choice phrases
for certain Conservatives!!:)

canopfor on November 28, 2010 at 7:25 PM

Oh I am sure he does have some choice phrases for us but not only us. I am thinking he has no idea why everyone does not love him anymore as he mumbles in the dark corner. The man has never really faced diversity, it is a shame we have to be the ones to ride out his first experiences.

bluemarlin on November 28, 2010 at 7:53 PM

bifidis on November 28, 2010 at 7:05 PM

Is that you, brother Michael?

OmahaConservative on November 28, 2010 at 7:54 PM

Bradley Manning needs to be put against a wall and shot.

Boxy_Brown on November 28, 2010 at 5:06 PM

No news articles on this mention treason. Why not?

alflauren on November 28, 2010 at 7:58 PM

canopfor on November 28, 2010 at 7:25 PM.
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it is a shame we have to be the ones to ride out his first experiences.

bluemarlin on November 28, 2010 at 7:53 PM

bluemarlin:*Sigh*,yup,so much for Team Liberal on Foreign
Policy,National Security!:)

canopfor on November 28, 2010 at 8:02 PM

WikiLeaks embassy cables: download the key data and see how it breaks downThe WikiLeaks embassy cables release has produced a lot of stories but does it produce any useful data? We explain what it includes and how it breaks down – plus you can download the key data for every cable
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canopfor on November 28, 2010 at 8:10 PM

wow. just got back from vacacay and saw this. jeepers creepers!

ted c on November 28, 2010 at 8:11 PM

Good night all. I have to get up and pee, shower and shave at 3 AM CST. Wake me up if there is alarming news.

OmahaConservative on November 28, 2010 at 8:12 PM

jeepers creepers!

ted c on November 28, 2010 at 8:11 PM

You ain’t kidding, brother.

OmahaConservative on November 28, 2010 at 8:14 PM

Secret US Embassy Cables

http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/

canopfor on November 28, 2010 at 8:16 PM

And if any of these self-righteous, ignorant fools knew anything about George Washington and his background, he’d be the last example they would use to exemplify their definition of “honesty”: Washington was brilliant at conducting and utilizing espionage. It was his specialty. We arguably would not have won the Revolution if it wasn’t for the SECRET, BEHIND-THE-SCENES efforts he coordinated.

Look, I’m all about transparency and whatnot, but I also understand the necessity to keep some things under wraps. To not realize this means you are blind to the realities of the world. This whole situation has me angrier than I have been in a long time.

KellyBomelly on November 28, 2010 at 8:18 PM

Gravitas of Obama and Hillary Clinton!

Indeed!

TheAlamos on November 28, 2010 at 8:18 PM

There is something that stinks to high heaven about the WikiLeaks operation that suggests something else altogther to me.

Notice that nobody ever leaks anything to WikiLeaks about Shanghai Treaty Organization States, especially the PRC?

Were I a somewhat ambitious if devilishly clever Chinese colonel of intelligence several years ago, and I wanted to find a way to damage American diplomacy without tipping my hand to the Americans about what I knew, I’d come up with something like WikiLeaks and find some useful idiots to run the opertion like Assange and his lot.

Understand that the Chicoms have taken a black eye in the past nine months. They’ve been unusually aggressive across a broad front in Asia, forcing the local Tribute KIngdoms back behind the American shield. Not for today’s Chinese Young Turks is the sober Bismarckian caution of Premier Deng Xiaoping. No, the 21st Century will be China’s moment in the Sun. This is China’s Wilhelmine moment.

So, why not find a clever way to give America a huge black eye while keeping your hands clean?

What I’m saying is that this story is too pat, too clean. Reams of cables from all over the world that make us look hideously bad come out at a time when the Chinese and the North Koreans look really bad all over Asia.

Count me as genuinely suspicious of the whole WikiLeaks origins story. I’ve got no proof, just a nasty-ass hunch based on the old Roman warning that should arise from this affair: Cui Bono?

victor82 on November 28, 2010 at 8:19 PM

huh? I see more embarrassing stuff revealed about State in their non-secret communiques. Sure, prosecute the leaker to the fullest extent but, seriously, it’s not like foreign diplomats aren’t bad-mouthing us Americans behind our backs.

Anyway, mostly a yawner with a lot of false indignation on all sides..

Sailfish on November 28, 2010 at 8:24 PM

To the extent that they do take the hypocrisy standard seriously, does that mean that less democratic nations aren’t fair game for leaks because, hey, at least they’re living by their principles? Wikileaks’s lack of interest to date in revealing state secrets of, say, China is mighty conspicuous given that cracking Beijing’s culture of secrecy would be a far greater intel coup than publishing U.S. diplomatic cables and might even have major political repercussions for the Chinese regime. But then, China isn’t “hypocritical,” you see. And of course China also isn’t likely to tolerate damaging leaks like this the way liberal western nations are.

I noticed that too, but then the Chinese or for that matter the Russians would have killed him and everyone associated with him a long time ago. That might have something to do with Assange’s decision to ignore them.

Terrye on November 28, 2010 at 8:25 PM

By the way, can we stop blaming Manning and Assange?

This is like blaming the Rosenbergs for the hideously poor counterintelligence effort to protect the atomic bomb secrets.

The Ruling Class hasn’t taken counterintelligence and signals security seriously in a long time. If it had, there would have been trials for High Treason and executions during the Soviet Period.

Manning and Assange are merely symptoms of the disease called “lax security”. We don’t take it seriously because we don’t think of ourselves as being at war.

Don’t blame the thief when your rulers have left the door unlocked. After all, you have been voting the same people into office over and over again. You expected a different result, perhaps?

victor82 on November 28, 2010 at 8:25 PM

While we’re fawning over the wonder of this guy, how bout this? In the spirit of no secrets?

“A Swedish court ordered the arrest of the founder of the whistleblower website WikiLeaks on Thursday to face charges of rape and sexual molestation.”

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2010/11/18/2010-11-18_julian_assange_wikileaks_founder_issued_arrest_warrant_by_sweden_court_over_rape.html

itsspideyman on November 28, 2010 at 8:25 PM

Going to bed. Have to work early.

OmahaConservative on November 28, 2010 at 8:31 PM

Sounds like stuff we already know…….YAWN

Let’s talk about that Cyber Monday ad from …..

PappyD61 on November 28, 2010 at 8:34 PM

Going to bed. Have to work early.

OmahaConservative on November 28, 2010 at 8:31 PM

OmahaConservative:Good nite CC,see ya on da flipside!:)

canopfor on November 28, 2010 at 8:35 PM

I’m not that surprised at the NoKo-Iran missile links: Syria and NoKo have had agreements going back to the early 90′s and Iran fielded a NoKo upgraded cruise missile with Hezbollah.

What is fascinating is the tone and tenor from parts of the State Dept… remember ‘the adults are in charge’? And ‘smart diplomacy’?

Ahmadinijad = ‘Hitler’
Putin = ‘Naked Emperor’

Don’t these diplomats know any diplomatic language for these things?

ajacksonian on November 28, 2010 at 8:35 PM

O/T
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November 28, 2010 at 9:11 AM

Ore. fire raises Muslims’ fears of attack backlash

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2013544236_apusportlandcarbombplot.html

canopfor on November 28, 2010 at 8:47 PM

Here is what it said in a Der Spiegel article: “In order to improve the flow of information between different officials, the State Department created its own computer network for classified documents, one that 2.5 million US citizens had access to.”

I think you will all agree that if anything remotely like 2,500,000 people have access to something it is certainly not even remotely-remotely-remotely any kind of secret, or even confidential, information. Far less people can name the capital of Montana.

Luka on November 28, 2010 at 8:52 PM

This is embarrassing. But other than the embarrassment, I’m really in the dark about what damage it is doing. It seems like there is little real information that isn’t already pretty public. Maybe not confirmed but speculated about.

One thing this does prove? Clinton is a dismal Secretary of State.

The fact that this happened on Obama’s watch just further proves his incompetence as a leader!

All this time he is trying to shut down FoxNews… and real enemies are raiding the State Department!

What a paranoid fool we have as President!

petunia on November 28, 2010 at 8:58 PM

Far less people can name the capital of Montana.

Luka on November 28, 2010 at 8:52 PM

Billings?

Inanemergencydial on November 28, 2010 at 9:00 PM

Billings?

Inanemergencydial on November 28, 2010 at 9:00 PM

Wrong!

Inanemergencydial on November 28, 2010 at 9:00 PM

Good question.

They’ll answer by claiming it’s just part of their ongoing “tribal” feud. Bank on it.

TheBigOldDog on November 28, 2010 at 9:01 PM

Was Politico’s Ben Smith a JournOlister? How deluded is he to post the following re the WikiLeaks?

Main Content
The leaks – Ben Smith: The leaksNovember 28, 2010
Categories:Misc.The leaks
The three rounds of WikiLeaks releases pose an extraordinary, and novel, challenge for the American government.

On one hand, they’ve produced a moment of remarkable impotence: The administration has proved unable to stop a band of hackers from the fever swamps from obtaining and posting thousands of its secrets.

But this is also a moment when President Barack Obama’s work restoring relations with allies, and his relative international popularity, pay off: The leaks offer endless opportunities for foreign governments to gin up — or play down — diplomatic conflict, and they’ll be less inclined to score points off Obama than they would have off his predecessor.

Hope and strange, indeed!

onlineanalyst on November 28, 2010 at 9:02 PM

I smell deliberate disinformation dissemination emanating from this whole “leak” business.

I suspect that we and our allies are up to something VERY size-large and produced the leaks in such a way as to quickly and easily hammer the daylights out of leftist ideology as it relates to constitutionally-based American interests.

The “leak” perpetrators have used Manning and that Assange (sp?) guy for their own purposes, said purposes to be to the great benefit of the United States at a point in the not-too-distant future.

Of course, the whole thing COULD simply be a mis-direction to take certain eyes off the financial ball for a few days while something ELSE is being foisted upon the unsuspecting.

At any rate — I don’t think the whole deal is “as advertised”.

Sumpin’ smells about this……….

Farmer on November 28, 2010 at 9:05 PM

I agree about Israel. The only good thing to come out of these leaks is the absolute confirmation that Arab states are playing a double game: the Saudis et al. are practically begging us to bomb Iran.

I hope the lefties see that what all these leaders say in public is not necessarily what they say in private. For instance, why should Chirac have backed us in Iraq? He knew W would go in and do the dirty work and he could be seen as standing up to The Cowboy. This completely deflates the meme that W personally caused the destabilization of the world after 9/11–It’s world politics, you big babies.

PattyJ on November 28, 2010 at 9:15 PM

What a paranoid fool we have as President!

What this proves, and what many of us have always suspected: how George Bush’s hand-in-hand sybmolism with the Saudis cost us American lives through wars. We’re so effed up in obligation to the Saudi royalty that they can practically dictate to us when and who we should attack!

How many of these wars-of-choice were really our call, or simply appeasing the Saudis??

honest16 on November 28, 2010 at 9:15 PM

Helena

ORconservative on November 28, 2010 at 9:20 PM

Billings?

Inanemergencydial on November 28, 2010 at 9:00 PM

Helena , I think.

bluemarlin on November 28, 2010 at 9:21 PM

Billings?

Inanemergencydial on November 28, 2010 at 9:00 PM

We have a winner! You are now awarded a Double Top Super Secret classification.

Luka on November 28, 2010 at 9:26 PM

Helena , I think.

bluemarlin on November 28, 2010 at 9:21 PM

We have another winner! You are also now awarded a Double Top Super Secret classification. If Obama could be born in two hospitals in Hawaii, and maybe another one not in Hawaii, then Montana can certainly have two capitals that are in Montana, and maybe one that is in another country.

Luka on November 28, 2010 at 9:29 PM

When “Ass”ange starts leaking Chinese secrets or Russian ones I’ll be open to considering him as something other than the slug that he is. Until then he’s a pitiful soul waiting for a rape trial to take him out of the spotlight for good.

itsspideyman on November 28, 2010 at 7:36 PM

For the record, Wikileaks has published leaks originating in Russia, you just don’t care to look. Why don’t you happen by the site, rather than pontificate from a state of true ignorance?

ernesto on November 28, 2010 at 9:33 PM

All this time he is trying to shut down FoxNews… and real enemies are raiding the State Department!

What a paranoid fool we have as President!

petunia on November 28, 2010 at 8:58 PM

If the lyin, fraud that is POTUS goal was to bring down the United States, to cut America down to size, would he not condone these leaks and the shutting down of FOX and the destruction of the dollar by deficit spending into the trillions, by keepin interest rates low so that no-one can make money and by printing hundreds of billions of funny money to set off inflation making the money sitting in banks at no interest worth less!

What would a Jihadi usurper do different than what this POTUS does, or allows to be done?

dhunter on November 28, 2010 at 9:36 PM

OK, for those of us who aren’t into details (I tried reading allah’s stuff, but it makes my eyes bleed), can we have a cliff’s notes summary?

Who is leaking this stuff and why are they getting away with it?

Is this something I really have to worry about? If so, what part?

Thanks

karenhasfreedom on November 28, 2010 at 9:50 PM

Coming late to the party, but why the h3ll haven’t we visited this guy in the cold dark of night with a SEAL team?

Smaulz on November 28, 2010 at 10:01 PM

Smaulz on November 28, 2010 at 10:01 PM

You do know who the CIC is, right?

Cindy Munford on November 28, 2010 at 10:04 PM

Coming late to the party, but why the h3ll haven’t we visited this guy in the cold dark of night with a SEAL team?

Smaulz on November 28, 2010 at 10:01 PM

Or for that matter, the special forces of any of the other nations that have been Wikileaked?

My personal guess is that the leakers themselves are unknown, and they don’t want to just take down the figurehead. Jailing or murdering him and doing nothing about the sources themselves will just result in Wikileaks 2.0, complete with a martyr.

Thus they’re trying to determine who’s handing him info. But even in the age of Big Brother, the Internet can still be a very good anonymity shield.

Dark-Star on November 28, 2010 at 10:08 PM

Is it too much of a stretch to believe that a POTUS whose goal is to “Fundamentally Transform” America and “return her to her rightful owners” is perfectly happy to see America diminished in the eyes of the world, to see the office of the President of the United States to lose its’ defacto authority as the highest most influential office in the world?

Would a person or persons who wants the U.S. to be diminished in wealth and power, to be a citizen of the world on equal footing with “ALL” others, not either sanction, condone or look the other way when her constitution is rendered useless by TSA body searches, by Black Panthers patrolling polling places, by ordering Union takeovers of private industry to the detriment of secured creditors, by the ordering of union employees to the ballot box in Nevada, by blocking the lawful production of oil in our gulfs waters, by suing a Sovereign State seeking to protect its citizens by securing its borders against infiltrators, by looking the other way when embarrassing “State Secrets” are revealed>

The question is not what to do about Wikileaks, it is what to do about a lyin, Marxist, American Hater posing as POTUS and his unaccountable czars, far leftwing Dept. Heads and cabinet members and a political Party who promotes, protects and encourages above referenced behavior!

dhunter on November 28, 2010 at 10:20 PM

But even in the age of Big Brother, the Internet can still be a very good anonymity shield.

Dark-Star on November 28, 2010 at 10:08 PM

Right.

Inanemergencydial on November 28, 2010 at 10:23 PM

For the record, Wikileaks has published leaks originating in Russia, you just don’t care to look. Why don’t you happen by the site, rather than pontificate from a state of true ignorance?

ernesto on November 28, 2010 at 9:33 PM

Check yours. They’ve annouced they will publish leaks but they haven’t yet. And I’ll believe it when I see it.

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2028283,00.html

itsspideyman on November 28, 2010 at 10:30 PM

Can Obama blame Bush?

Birdseye on November 28, 2010 at 10:31 PM

Sooooo….

We have a Resident (the ‘p’ got knocked out of him in early November) in the White House who hates America, our intelligence organizations, and our military. He appoints radicals who also hate America, our intelligence organizations, and our military to key positions…all the while avoiding Senate confirmation or examination of the qualifications, competence, and loyalty of any of these appointees. Then the leaks start: HUGE leaks which damage America, our intelligence organizations and our military.

COINCIDENCE?????

landlines on November 28, 2010 at 10:31 PM

Our problems originate in the State Dept. Someone needs to do some serious investigation and housecleaning.

Check this out:

here is an interesting blurb

7:10 Democracy Now! on Twitter claims: “Leaked State Dept memo: 2009 coup in Honduras was ‘illegal and unconstitutional.”

http://www.thenation.com/blog/156701/blogging-wikileaks-release-return-here-all-day-updates

onlineanalyst on November 28, 2010 at 10:33 PM

You do know who the CIC is, right?
Cindy Munford on November 28, 2010 at 10:04 PM

Point taken, but perhaps this is a job for private industry? Surely there are some unemployed Blackwater ops needing a quick source of income.

My personal guess is that the leakers themselves are unknown, and they don’t want to just take down the figurehead. Jailing or murdering him and doing nothing about the sources themselves will just result in Wikileaks 2.0, complete with a martyr.

Thus they’re trying to determine who’s handing him info. But even in the age of Big Brother, the Internet can still be a very good anonymity shield.

Dark-Star on November 28, 2010 at 10:08 PM

Possibly. I can’t help but think that Assange’s head on a pike in the public square would go a long way toward dissuading this type of behavior in the future.

Smaulz on November 28, 2010 at 10:36 PM

Birdseye on November 28, 2010 at 10:31 PM

I bet he gives it the old school try.

Cindy Munford on November 28, 2010 at 10:48 PM

Right.

Inanemergencydial on November 28, 2010 at 10:23 PM

Go call 1-800-GET-A-CLUE.

Dark-Star on November 28, 2010 at 10:50 PM

Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah.

This guy looks like a femme guy in 4th grade. You girls know the one. The one who hides in the covers… the one who peeks in the closet. The one who runs through the house wid the toilet paper.

Key West Reader on November 28, 2010 at 10:51 PM

The first Republican who declares Julian Assange to be an “enemy combatant” gets my endorsement for POTUS.

Really Right on November 28, 2010 at 10:52 PM

Possibly. I can’t help but think that Assange’s head on a pike in the public square would go a long way toward dissuading this type of behavior in the future.

Smaulz on November 28, 2010 at 10:36 PM

It certainly would be worth a shot, if you’ll pardon the black humor.

Dark-Star on November 28, 2010 at 10:53 PM

Key West Reader on November 28, 2010 at 10:51 PM

Joy give me mercy I am cracking e meself up

Key West Reader on November 28, 2010 at 10:53 PM

Hillary ordered spying of UN diplomats? Maybe there is hope and change in her.

bayview on November 28, 2010 at 10:57 PM

It certainly would be worth a shot, if you’ll pardon the black humor.

Dark-Star on November 28, 2010 at 10:53 PM

Racist! s/

dhunter on November 28, 2010 at 10:58 PM

How does the Obama administration square Clinton’s critical concerns and suspicions of the United Nations and of the PA leadership of Mahmoud Abbas with President Obama’s oft-repeated fulsome trust in Abbas and the President’s stated intent to use the UN as a prime vehicle to advance U.S. interests? The WikiLeak’s dislcosures at a minimum must have enraged Obama’s ambassador to the United Nations, Susan Rice, who has been beating the drums for full U.S. participation in UN activities as a most worthwhile diplomatic tool.

(From American Thinker)

What becomes of Hillary?

journeyintothewhirlwind on November 28, 2010 at 11:08 PM

This is an act of war by a terrorist site. Why we treat these folk, who are killing people with their anti-American attacks, better than we treat sites that sell knock off purses?

JIMV on November 28, 2010 at 11:20 PM

alwyr on November 28, 2010 at 1:45 PM

My understanding of cryptology, and in particular frequency analysis in the context of military-strength encryption, is admittedly not that of an expert, but isn’t the whole point of an encryption system’s being described as “military strength” partly because frequency analysis is of little to no use in breaking it?

greggriffith on November 28, 2010 at 1:59 PM

Uh. won’t messages within a certain time frame have the same encryption codes? In other words, won’t they be able to unscramble coded messages with the same time stamp? Some of those could be highly confidential!

AllosaursRus on November 28, 2010 at 11:44 PM

I support public hangings for anyone at Foggy Bottom convicted of leaking stuff to Wikileaks.

Ward Cleaver on November 28, 2010 at 11:55 PM

What becomes of Hillary?

Hillary is already under the bus–she doesn’t know it yet.

Emperor Norton on November 29, 2010 at 12:21 AM

The Americans never cease to amaze me with their nicely nice niceness. I assumed Assange was dead already! Please consider “nicely nice niceness” to be written in pink ink, and each of the i‘s to be topped with a little heart-shaped dot.

Kralizec on November 29, 2010 at 12:24 AM

It certainly would be worth a shot, if you’ll pardon the black humor.

Dark-Star on November 28, 2010 at 10:53 PM

Black humor pardoned. They tell me I’m a racist after all.

Smaulz on November 29, 2010 at 12:43 AM

Sooooo….

We have a Resident (the ‘p’ got knocked out of him in early November) in the White House who hates America, our intelligence organizations, and our military. He appoints radicals who also hate America, our intelligence organizations, and our military to key positions…all the while avoiding Senate confirmation or examination of the qualifications, competence, and loyalty of any of these appointees. Then the leaks start: HUGE leaks which damage America, our intelligence organizations and our military.

COINCIDENCE?????

landlines on November 28, 2010 at 10:31 PM

You know, I’m as enraged by these leaks as anyone who loves this country. But this kind of stupid-arse, birther, Manchurian candidate conspiracy-mongering is just so not helpful.

There are hundreds if not thousands of Democrats in the White House and State department who are absolutely sickened by this leak. You weeping righties don’t have the frakking market cornered on patriotism or support for the military or US interests. Goddamnit — when the frak are you going to realize that some things transcend party politics? Jesus!

bifidis on November 29, 2010 at 1:04 AM

You weeping righties don’t have the frakking market cornered on patriotism or support for the military or US interests. Goddamnit — when the frak are you going to realize that some things transcend party politics? Jesus!

bifidis on November 29, 2010 at 1:04 AM

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sharrukin on November 29, 2010 at 1:10 AM

This is an act of war by a terrorist site. Why we treat these folk, who are killing people with their anti-American attacks, better than we treat sites that sell knock off purses?

JIMV on November 28, 2010 at 11:20 PM

I wholeheartedly agree. Assange crossed the line because there was no compelling reason to publish these cables EXCEPT to damage America. I can at least understand how an anti-war or peace activist could have, in theory, justified the previous leaks. With this batch, Assange and his media arse-kissers haven’t even bothered to offer any reasons beyond some vague, cliche, meaningless “in the public interest” BS.

It’s an outrage — and an act of war. Assange needs to be neutralized.

bifidis on November 29, 2010 at 1:12 AM

http://www.capveterans.com/imagelib/sitebuilder/misc/show_image.html?linkedwidth=actual&linkpath=http://www.capveterans.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/shoot_officers2.jpg&target=tlx_new

sharrukin on November 29, 2010 at 1:10 AM

Oh well, that PROVES a lot, moron.

This is what I’m talking about. You just cannot seem to imagine an event that would outrage America-loving Republicans and Democrats for the same reasons. Talk about a failure of imagination!

bifidis on November 29, 2010 at 1:18 AM

This is what I’m talking about. You just cannot seem to imagine an event that would outrage America-loving Republicans and Democrats for the same reasons. Talk about a failure of imagination!

bifidis on November 29, 2010 at 1:18 AM

It proves that you scum seem perfectly fine with that kind of garbage. Not one conservative would ever tolerate that in any demonstration, EVER. It would have been torn down within minutes. Democrats are fine with it.

The media ignores this kind of crap and reports fictional crap about Tea Party demonstration and tell me genius, what does that mean? Could it be that they are fine with treason just as you seem fine with it when you say… I can at least understand how an anti-war or peace activist could have, in theory, justified the previous leaks.

So when you do it, its just great, but what an outrage if its done to a Democratic president. Then your ‘understanding‘ goes out the window and you wrap yourself in the flag that you haven’t yet burned.

And this from the Kos kiddies on the anniversary of 911…

http://s191.photobucket.com/albums/z36/AlecRawls/?action=view&current=KosKids9-11Tribute.jpg

sharrukin on November 29, 2010 at 1:32 AM

Talk about a failure of imagination!

bifidis on November 29, 2010 at 1:18 AM

Senator Barabara Boxer (D-CA) along with Representatives Raul Grijalva (D-AZ), Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) and Henry Waxman (D-CA) secured diplomatic courtesy letters that allowed anti-American Code Pink activists to travel to the Iraqi border. The radicals traveled to Jordan and the Iraqi border in late 2004 to donate $600,000 worth of humanitarian aid to the people who had just killed 51 Americans and wounded 560 more earlier that month. Operation Phantom Fury in Fallujah was the heaviest US urban combat since the Vietnam War.

http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2010/10/barbara-boxer-approved-code-pink-trip-to-fallujah-to-donate-600000-to-extremists-to-murder-us-soldiers/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+gatewaypundit2+%28Gateway+Pundit%29

sharrukin on November 29, 2010 at 2:06 AM

There are hundreds if not thousands of Democrats in the White House and State department who are absolutely sickened by this leak. You weeping righties don’t have the frakking market cornered on patriotism or support for the military or US interests. Goddamnit — when the frak are you going to realize that some things transcend party politics? Jesus!

bifidis on November 29, 2010 at 1:04 AM

You know, once upon a time I talked like that, perhaps from a slightly different point of view.

But we’ve been stabbed in the FACE by Democrats about 500 too many times to bother now. If you’re a Democrat and you love America, you’re in the wrong party, because people like Soros, Pelosi, Boxer, Rangel, and Obama and his coterie of communists and incompetents OWN IT NOW. You can’t get in one word edgewise there, which is why you’re shouting at us.

If you don’t want to be part of the party of impossible debt, crushing taxes, insane regulations, and hugs and kisses for dictators, then you should leave them. If you make excuses for all that, don’t expect to come here and not be called on it.

You’re a devotee of a fallen ideal, everyone else has moved on, on our side and yours.

Merovign on November 29, 2010 at 2:15 AM

You know, we wouldn’t have this problem with North Korea today if that dumb, uneducated Democrat president, Harry Truman, hadn’t fired General Douglas MacArthur.

Emperor Norton on November 29, 2010 at 2:21 AM

There are hundreds if not thousands of Democrats in the White House and State department who are absolutely sickened by this leak.

bifidis on November 29, 2010 at 1:04 AM

Dozens maybe, perhaps even enough to fill a phone both. But only because this happened under Our Beloved One, and not while BushchimpMcHitler was in the White House.

pedestrian on November 29, 2010 at 2:33 AM

The “leak” perpetrators have used Manning and that Assange (sp?) guy for their own purposes, said purposes to be to the great benefit of the United States at a point in the not-too-distant future.

Farmer on November 28, 2010 at 9:05 PM

I agree about Israel. The only good thing to come out of these leaks is the absolute confirmation that Arab states are playing a double game: the Saudis et al. are practically begging us to bomb Iran.

Assplunge got played by Mossad?

pedestrian on November 29, 2010 at 2:36 AM

Whenever the nation is threatened, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy.

One of the documents, a KGB report to their bosses in the Soviet Communist Party Central Committee, revealed that “In 1978, American Sen. Edward Kennedy requested the assistance of the KGB to establish a relationship” between the Soviet apparatus and a firm owned by former Senator John Tunney. KGB recommended that they be permitted to do this because Tunney’s firm was already connected with a KGB agent in France named David Karr. This document was found by the knowledgeable Russian journalist Yevgenia Albats and published in Moscow’s Izvestia in June 1992.

Another even more disturbing KGB memo was discovered.

In May 1983, the KGB again reported to their bosses on a discussion in Moscow with former Sen. John Tunney. Kennedy had instructed Tunney, according to the KGB, to carry a message to Yuri Andropov, the General Secretary of the Soviet Communist Party, expressing Kennedy’s concern about the anti-Soviet activities of President Ronald Reagan. The KGB reported “in Kennedy’s opinion the opposition to Reagan remains weak. Speeches of the president’s opponents are not well-coordinated and not effective enough, and Reagan has the chance to use successful counterpropaganda.” Kennedy offered to “undertake some additional steps to counter the militaristic policy of Reagan and his campaign of psychological pressure on the American population.” Kennedy asked for a meeting with Andropov for the purpose of “arming himself with the Soviet leader’s explanations of arms control policy so he can use them later for more convincing speeches in the U.S.”

Part of that memo also reads… If the proposal is recognized as worthy, then Kennedy and his friends will bring about suitable steps to have representatives of the largest television companies in the USA contact Y.V. Andropov for an invitation to Moscow for the interviews.

Specifically, the president of the board of directors of ABC, Elton Raul and television columnists Walter Cronkite or Barbara Walters could visit Moscow. The senator underlined the importance that this initiative should be seen as coming from the American side.

Is Ted Kennedy a traitor to the United States?

The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) was introduced on May 18, 1977 by Senator Ted Kennedy.

Zacarias Moussaoui was arrested with a laptop computer on August 16, 2001. August! FBI agents tried to get permission (sending over 70 emails in a week) to search his laptop. They were turned down based upon FISA regulations. I assume you know what happened the next month on September 11, 2001?

So we have a Democrat with a working relationship with the KGB passing legislation that cripples American intelligence agencies during the cold war. Later this same crippling legislation leads to the death of 3,000 American citizens.

David Bonior, Jim McDermott, and Mike Thompson

In September 2002 McDermott traveled to Baghdad along with fellow Progressive Caucus member David Bonior and Rep. Mike Thompson. The three lawmakers embraced Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein and created propaganda in his behalf, publicly expressing doubt about the Bush administration’s claims that Saddam’s regime had manufactured and stockpiled weapons of mass destruction. Interviewed upon his return to the United States by George Stephanopoulos on ABC, McDermott declared that President George W. Bush was “trying to provoke a war.” McDermott then told the startled Stephanopoulos that he found Saddam more credible than Bush: “I think you have to take the Iraqis on their value — at their face value [but] I think the President would mislead the American people.

Federal prosecutors say Saddam Hussein’s intelligence agency secretly financed a trip to Iraq for three U.S. lawmakers during the run-up to the U.S.-led invasion.

An indictment in Detroit accuses Muthanna Al-Hanooti of arranging for three members of Congress to travel to Iraq in October 2002 at the behest of Saddam’s regime. In exchange, Al-Hanooti allegedly received 2 million barrels of Iraqi oil.

Al-Hanooti, a former chief of CAIR-Michigan was indicted for acting as a spy for Saddam Hussein.

Are these three Democrats traitors? They travel to a foreign country they know the US is going to war with paid for with cash from the intelligence agencies of this nation and cut propaganda clips for a murderous dictator. Is that treason?

Scores of journalists throughout the Arab world and Europe were on Saddam Hussein’s payroll.

“For years, the Iraqi leader has been waging an intensive, sometimes clandestine, and by most accounts highly effective image war in the Arab world,” wrote Wall Street Journal reporters Jane Mayer and Geraldine Brooks in an exposé published February 15, 1991. “His strategy has ranged from financing friendly publications and columnists as far away as Paris to doling out gifts as big as new Mercedes-Benzes.”

That campaign continued until days before the regime was deposed. “If they’re not bought and paid for, they’re at least rented,” says a top national security official, who adds that the administration has intelligence implicating big-name journalists throughout the Arab world and Europe.

“I could give you lots of names,” says Tareq al-Mezrem. “Everyone knows them on the street. Everyone knows this information.”

So are these leftist journalists guilty of treason?

Al-Khafaji (recall he worked for Iraqi intelligence) first came to public notice after revelations that he gave former U.N. weapons inspector Scott Ritter $400,000 to produce a film that criticized the United States for its role in the inspection process. Al-Khafaji, who is listed as a “senior executive producer” of the film, arranged meetings for Ritter with high-level officials in Saddam’s government, a feat New York Times magazine writer Barry Bearak found “impressive.” Ritter had previously been an outspoken critic of Saddam Hussein, and issued dire warnings about the status of the Iraqi dictator’s weapons of mass destruction. His sudden flip–he is now a leading apologist for Saddam’s regime–and revelations about Ritter’s 2001 arrest for soliciting sex with minors have fueled speculation about the nature of his relationship with al-Khafaji.

So is Scott Ritter the hero of the left a traitor?

If this guy who revealed these documents is a traitor then why isn’t Ted Kennedy, David Bonior, Jim McDermott, Mike Thompson and Scott Ritter?

Or is it that treason has become so prevalent on the left that actually pointing out the treasonous ones would be just rude!

sharrukin on November 29, 2010 at 3:28 AM

It’s an outrage — and an act of war. Assange needs to be neutralized.

War on the US by one poor soul and possible rapist? Backed by the Russians and the Chinese? The WH boasts about open government at all that is good for the ears of gullible Americans who believe in your boy wonder. Assange is showing the world how this administration talks one way and behaves in another.

Birdseye on November 29, 2010 at 3:43 AM

You’re a devotee of a fallen ideal, everyone else has moved on, on our side and yours.

Merovign on November 29, 2010 at 2:15 AM

100+

YehuditTX on November 29, 2010 at 3:49 AM

I think that we have many moles riddled throughout our State Department, too.

But…but…but…

Weren’t we assured by the Administration that ALL of these leaks came from some lowly Marine PFC?

oldleprechaun on November 29, 2010 at 7:36 AM

It looks like the Euroweanies, for reasons of snobbery and America-fatigue, are trying to hasten the end of Pax Americana. I guess it has just been a living hell living behind the American military shield and being forced to consume McDonalds, Google, Amazon, Coke and Microsoft.

I hope they like what comes next.

johnboy on November 29, 2010 at 7:52 AM

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