Somali-Born Teen Arrested After Attempting to Detonate a Car Bomb in Oregon

posted at 8:00 am on November 27, 2010 by Jimmie Bise, Jr

It’s not just high-profile targets that are at-risk, folks.

PORTLAND — A Corvallis teenager was arrested Friday in connection with a car bomb at a Christmas tree lighting event.

The bomb was inert and posed no danger, officials said.

Mohamed Osman Mohamud, 19, a naturalized U.S. citizen from Somalia and resident of Corvallis, was arrested on accusations of attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction (explosives) in connection with a plot to detonate a vehicle bomb at an annual Christmas tree lighting ceremony, the Justice Department announced.

According to the Reuters version of the story, Mohamud used a cell phone to detonate what he thought was van full of explosives. The target was the annual Christmas Tree lighting in the capitol of Portland, Oregon’s largest city (error corrected) during the evening of the busiest shopping day of the year. Mohamud was not aiming for a couple dozen victims, but hundreds and perhaps thousands and his motivation was “violent jihad”.

We shouldn’t fret, though. The authorities already know, scant hours after the arrest, that this was an isolated incident.

Dwight C. Holton, U.S. Attorney for the District of Oregon, said, “This defendant’s chilling determination is a stark reminder that there are people — even here in Oregon — who are determined to kill Americans. The good work of law enforcement protected Oregonians in this case, and we have no reason to believe there is any continuing threat arising from this case.”

That’s all well and good, but do we have reason to believe there isn’t? Have the FBI and the Portland Police Bureau run down all of Mohamud’s friends and associates? Have they brought a few folks in for questioning? Far be it from me to criticize Dwight C. Holton, U.S. Attorney for the District of Oregon, but I’m not confident in any police department’s ability to thoroughly investigate a suspect’s known associates in only a couple or three hours from the point of arrest. I realize this investigation has been ongoing for months, but perhaps the authorities could wait a few days before making the boilerplate “there’s nothing more to see here so move along” announcement, if for no other reason than to assure us that they’re diligently running down every possible lead.

Though the authorities were on top of this one, we should remember that they’re not going to catch every attempt. Mohamud chose Portland because it was an unlikely place for a terrorist strike and you can bet that if this occurred to a teenager on his first act of jihad, then it’s occurred to the seasoned veterans. I have no doubt that, even now, jihadists are looking at places where we gather as good places to strike and the police can’t be everywhere no matter how they may try to reassure us that they’re on top of things.

As we saw recently in Times Square, the most effective anti-terrorist tools are the eyes and ears of a vigilant citizenry. I made this point about airline security in the latest episode of my podcast, The Delivery, and it works outside the airport terminal, too. For every plot our law enforcement agencies foil, there are other plots they know nothing about. We still have to keep our eyes open, even in places where we think we should be safe, like a Christmas Tree lighting.


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I can only speak for my own posts. If there are people who think anyone deserves a terrorist attack, they should seek a good qualified mental health professional.

portlandon on November 27, 2010 at 2:54 PM

Yes.

Christien on November 27, 2010 at 3:35 PM

Do you think it should? If so, what point in time do we ‘freeze’ as the ideal ‘racial makeup’ for immigration purposes?

DarkCurrent on November 27, 2010 at 3:24 PM

I’d say freeze it where it is right now, but that is probably already too late so 1970 is probably a good point to stop and take stock. The point at which immigration to a country ceased to be predominantly from countries with similar cultural background to the culture that created is is the point it needs to be controlled to account for that factor. It really is that simple.

keep the change on November 27, 2010 at 3:36 PM

dakine on November 27, 2010 at 3:28 PM

From Jimmie’s post:

…to detonate what he thought was van full of explosives.

Though the authorities were on top of this one…

Pretty obvious that Jimmie knew “how this went down.”

There is a moron here posting a sloppy POS—look in the mirror to see who it is.

IrishEi on November 27, 2010 at 3:37 PM

I’d say freeze it where it is right now, but that is probably already too late so 1970 is probably a good point to stop and take stock.

keep the change on November 27, 2010 at 3:36 PM

We’d still need a practically useful definition of ‘racial makeup’. Do you have one?

DarkCurrent on November 27, 2010 at 3:45 PM

Those radical Christians again.

Hawkins1701 on November 27, 2010 at 3:47 PM

I’d say freeze it where it is right now, but that is probably already too late so 1970 is probably a good point to stop and take stock.

keep the change on November 27, 2010 at 3:36 PM

I can’t find stats for just 1970, but between 1970 and 1980, the source of legal immigrants to the US was roughly as follows:

18% European (3% from UK)

35% from Asia, 2% African, 14% Mexican, 30% other American (including Canadians)

That sounds ok to me. Are you good with that?

DarkCurrent on November 27, 2010 at 3:49 PM

That same dead look that’s in the eyes of every Muslim terrorist. The look of someone who celebrates death over life. The life of one single celled organism has more value than all of these sub-humans put together.

Sharke on November 27, 2010 at 3:50 PM

IrishEi on November 27, 2010 at 3:37 PM

Ooh, good one Irish. Sorry, sloppy post. This incident is actually an example of things working the way they are supposed to, and clearly the Patriot Act was used effectively in this case. Did you bother to read any of the original sourcing prior to posting breathlessly about how everything’s going to hell in a handbasket? Guessing not.

dakine on November 27, 2010 at 3:51 PM

DarkCurrent on November 27, 2010 at 3:49 PM

There was a reason why I said 1970. After 1970, immigration started to go mostly to second and third world cultures.

And by racial makeup I mean Caucasian. By cultural I mean western Europe. So that would exclude the Russians, who are a major source now of organized crime.

keep the change on November 27, 2010 at 3:56 PM

”Islam is awesome, Muslims are real straight shooters.”

BL@KBIRD on November 27, 2010 at 11:12 AM

When did bush say that? I can’t find anything on Google or Bing—just references to your own comments on Hot Air and Small Dead Animals (back in October.)

IrishEi on November 27, 2010 at 3:25 PM

No, you won’t find Bush quoted saying that. If you have checked my past posts you might have read the one where I said it was the synthesis of the ten thousand other ways Bush said it. Do you deny Bush was a big Islam booster? That he had nothing but praise and bag licking for Islam? That he made sure no shadow fell over his Saudi brothers?

BL@KBIRD on November 27, 2010 at 4:11 PM

And by racial makeup I mean Caucasian. By cultural I mean western Europe. So that would exclude the Russians, who are a major source now of organized crime.

keep the change on November 27, 2010 at 3:56 PM

Russians, Poles, Italians, Greeks, Arabs, Turks, Finns, Latvians, all excluded on the basis of not being Western European Caucasians. Ok.

Just Spanish, Portuguese, English, and French, their African slaves, maybe some Dutch and Swedes, just as America was originally colonized. Right?

DarkCurrent on November 27, 2010 at 4:12 PM

Did you bother to read any of the original sourcing prior to posting breathlessly about how everything’s going to hell in a handbasket? Guessing not.

dakine on November 27, 2010 at 3:51 PM

What the he11 are you talking about?

I never “post(ed) breathlessly about how everything’s going to hell in a handbasket.” I merely tried to point out to you that Jimmie, and all the commenters here, already knew that the FBI was on to this terrorist and that it wasn’t a real bomb.

Did you bother to read my comment fully before “pathetically posting a sloppy POS comment” denigrating the Hot Air community?

Guess not.

IrishEi on November 27, 2010 at 4:13 PM

Somali immigrants are another self-inflicted wound on this country courtesy of liberals. There were NO muslim crime and culture problems in Minnesota before liberal do-gooders began importing Somali refugees to show how morally superior and diversity-loving they supposedly are.

“Somali Pirates attacking people in Saint Paul, Minnesota”

“14 U.S. citizens charged with trying to join Somali terror group”

Django on November 27, 2010 at 4:19 PM

Thank you IrishEi. I appreciate the backup. :)

Jimmie Bise, Jr on November 27, 2010 at 4:20 PM

BL@KBIRD on November 27, 2010 at 4:11 PM

No, I didn’t check all your past posts. I know you well enough to know you’re not a troll. All I did was Google/Bing the quote to see when and where Bush might have said it because unfortunately, it does indeed sound like something he would have said. I was looking for more info, not questioning your honesty.

And sadly, I agree that Bush—and 99% of the rest of the political class, and 100% of liberals—have been kissing Islam’s butt for decades, particularly the last 10 years. All part of the suicidal PC that will destroy this country.

IrishEi on November 27, 2010 at 4:20 PM

Russians, Poles, Italians, Greeks, Arabs, Turks, Finns, Latvians, all excluded on the basis of not being Western European Caucasians. Ok

Not okay. You are not thinking your argument. Again with the strawman of barring immigration on an individual basis. That was never the resolution to be debated nor your original point of contention. You asked for a definition of racial and cultural make-up and upon that we craft macro immigration policy such that we keep such make up of the US along the lines as it was in 1970.

keep the change on November 27, 2010 at 4:22 PM

IrishEi on November 27, 2010 at 4:20 PM

My apologies for misinterpreting your response.

BL@KBIRD on November 27, 2010 at 4:27 PM

Thank you IrishEi.
Jimmie Bise, Jr on November 27, 2010 at 4:20 PM

Thank you!

I appreciate guest bloggers here at Hot Air. Gives the regular guys a little break, and gives me the opportunity to discover new and intelligent bloggers without getting tangled in the intertubes. LOL

And it was a very good post, by the way. Lots of information, plenty of links, and an emphasis on the exasperating and dangerous practice of the authorities’ constant “lone wolf,” “isolated incident,” and “not terror-related” story line that educated citizens are fed up with.

IrishEi on November 27, 2010 at 4:31 PM

Not okay. You are not thinking your argument. Again with the strawman of barring immigration on an individual basis.

What individual basis?

That was never the resolution to be debated nor your original point of contention. You asked for a definition of racial and cultural make-up and upon that we craft macro immigration policy such that we keep such make up of the US along the lines as it was in 1970.

keep the change on November 27, 2010 at 4:22 PM

You suggested ’1970′. What exactly was the ‘racial and cultural makeup’ of the United States in 1970? Please define it in a way that can be practically applied to test prospective immigrants.

Hopefully the criteria doesn’t include hair or clothing styles.

DarkCurrent on November 27, 2010 at 4:39 PM

Man, I wish there was one thing all these terrorists had in common that might help us know what to look out for but there’s nothing. Better start strip searching grandma and toddlers so we can stay safe. \s

miConsevative on November 27, 2010 at 5:00 PM

BL@KBIRD on November 27, 2010 at 4:27 PM

It’s all good. ;-)

IrishEi on November 27, 2010 at 5:04 PM

You have to get felt up and ogled until J-Nap can figure out what motivates terrorists.

SarahW on November 27, 2010 at 5:47 PM

Sounds like a few folks here are kinda bummed the terrorist didn’t succeed.
Christien on November 27, 2010 at 2:00 PM
?
DarkCurrent on November 27, 2010 at 2:12 PM

not quite jerk off

so the record is strait

I would rather see the entire Muslim population of Somalia be killed before one American dies at their hands

but thats me

Sonosam on November 27, 2010 at 5:52 PM

I think your Lutheran aid foundations up there, were the ones who volunteered their states (North Dakota too) for taking in Somalis.

firepilot on November 27, 2010 at 11:11 AM

As a Missouri Synod Lutheran, this infuriates me. I wish we would only help th Lutheran/Christian Somalis. Just like Lutheran Social Services helping illegal aliens. It’s that damsnable unholy alliance we have with the homosexual Evangelical Lutheran Church in America.

OmahaConservative on November 27, 2010 at 5:59 PM

The Lutherans have/are doing the same in New England. Do not feel truly comfortable tearing them down, but it does seem as if these activities give them access to a lot of government do-gooder money.

jeanie on November 27, 2010 at 6:10 PM

OmahaConservative on November 27, 2010 at 5:59 PM

I understand. One of the Southern Baptist Leaders seems to be pushing for a Path to Citizenship.

kingsjester on November 27, 2010 at 6:12 PM

This is how you do it

instead of letting barbarians rule their countries like animals and sending invading armies here under the guise of refugees who will revert back to locusts in too many cases

you get serious and wipe out the animals that are keeping the decent people in squallor

Yeah war

It’s just like letting a guetto stay as is so it can overflow and ruin the surrounding areas

either the indiginous people fight with our help, like in Iraq, to clean their cesspool

or they can wallow in it

eff this status quo where vast areas are just left to be ruined by animals

there is no way we can be sure who we are letting in and there is no effin way we should playing games with our citizens lives

Mexico too

they can’t control their cartels then wall em off and if they shoot one of us who are jetdkiing on a lake, we mortar a town to rubble

the hell with this paralysis that prevents us from protecting our selves

we are going to spend lots of time and money on this creature in Portland and the whole time radicals will be laughing their asses off because they don’t give an eff

level Mecca next time and then see how they feel

a Christmas celebration

Well how bout a whole city in Yemen

we need a general Pershing not some bloviating liberal pu$$ies

Sonosam on November 27, 2010 at 6:17 PM

not quite jerk off

so the record is strait

I would rather see the entire Muslim population of Somalia be killed before one American dies at their hands

but thats me

Sonosam on November 27, 2010 at 5:52 PM

The entire Muslim population of Somalia < one American?

I guess you really don't subscribe to that 'all men are created equal' stuff huh?

You may be inclined toward irrational genocidal rage. Probably should have it checked out.

DarkCurrent on November 27, 2010 at 6:25 PM

You suggested ’1970′. What exactly was the ‘racial and cultural makeup’ of the United States in 1970? Please define it in a way that can be practically applied to test prospective immigrants.

Again, you framing the debate in a strawman way. It is not about “testing” anybody but by encouraging, and discouraging, immigration, through policy, based upon maintaining the cultural balance that the United States thrived on for the first 200 years of its existence.

keep the change on November 27, 2010 at 6:29 PM

Another right wing bitter clinger type.

Wonder whatever happened to that those redneck militia types who didn’t even know ho to make bombs that were arrested this past year? Remember those guys? The judge tried to release them because of lack of evidence and DOJ refused. Never heard anything since. So, it’s been quite awhile since their arrest. Anyone hear anything? Is there a case being brought against them? Are they terrorists or are they just a bunch of rednecks with guns that Obama wanted to make an example of?

JellyToast on November 27, 2010 at 6:34 PM

Again, you framing the debate in a strawman way. It is not about “testing” anybody but by encouraging, and discouraging, immigration, through policy, based upon maintaining the cultural balance that the United States thrived on for the first 200 years of its existence.

keep the change on November 27, 2010 at 6:29 PM

Ok, how do you do that?

First of all I think you’ll need to start with a standard for America’s ‘cultural balance’, right?

What is that, exactly?

DarkCurrent on November 27, 2010 at 6:36 PM

jeanie on November 27, 2010 at 6:10 PM

Tear ‘em down, darlin’
Them Lutherans are ultra-libs who won’t even obey God’s ten commands.

OmahaConservative on November 27, 2010 at 6:38 PM

There’s something especially evil about trying to blow up a Christmas tree lighting event. Think of all the little kids that would have been there.

So, letting my mind wonder a bit. Thinking how something like this would’ve been handled about 50 years ago or so compared with today. Amazing how things like that never happened much back then, you know, before TSA, Homeland Security and all.
Yeah, some town in middle America discovers some Muslim from Somalia about to blow up a bunch of people at a Christmas tree lighting event. Just imagining how those local folk would deal with this guy.

JellyToast on November 27, 2010 at 6:40 PM

I am ashamed of the LINO’s who embrace Martin Luther’s theology and doctrine. THERE IS *NOTHING* Lutheran about them.
We real LUTHERANS, with pure doctrine recognize homosexuality as a sin that can be forgiven.

OmahaConservative on November 27, 2010 at 6:46 PM

DarkCurrent on November 27, 2010 at 6:36 PM

Now you are just trying to making things go in circles by continuing to ask for definitions. All you’re doing is trolling.

keep the change on November 27, 2010 at 6:53 PM

Now you are just trying to making things go in circles by continuing to ask for definitions. All you’re doing is trolling.

keep the change on November 27, 2010 at 6:53 PM

You’re going in circles by avoiding definitions.

Your position requires some definitions, yet you have none.

Perhaps you need to think about it a little more.

DarkCurrent on November 27, 2010 at 7:00 PM

The entire Muslim population of Somalia < one American?
I guess you really don't subscribe to that 'all men are created equal' stuff huh?
You may be inclined toward irrational genocidal rage. Probably should have it checked out.
DarkCurrent on November 27, 2010 at 6:25 PM

no doosh

it's that I am squarely behind protecting Americans

I'm sure you had problems with the A bomb

but again, if saves one American soldier you drop the bomb

I guess you could choose which American gets it to save a pack of warmongering Neanderthals

It must be great being smart and holy like you

like I said, if they wNt to fight for freedom, then help them

if they do come here they don't deserve one red cent from our people but they will have the opportunity to be prosperous

if someone wants yo e tend charity fine

but eff our commie filth who's only purpose is to find a wAy into our pockets gor bs humanitarian reasons

it's all about control of our lives

we owe legal immigrants nothing but a chance

period

Sonosam on November 27, 2010 at 7:01 PM

How bout when the Israelis justifiably razed gaza because of the torrents of rockets aimlessly lobbed into their villages hoping to kill anyone

that punk in chief decided how terrible and allotted x ammount of dollars so a pack of palistinian trash can be “educated” input universities

I wonder who’s spots were lost fir their FREE ride

I wonder what they will be taught by the liberal garbage there

actually I don’t

it’s a concerted effort to break down our makeup

if the palistinians want respect they can out Hamas and Hezbollah operatives

if they want respect they can create some sort of economy and not have us write the paychecks for their bogus palistinian authority government

Sonosam on November 27, 2010 at 7:12 PM

no doosh

it’s that I am squarely behind protecting Americans

I’m sure you had problems with the A bomb

but again, if saves one American soldier you drop the bomb

No friend, I don’t. Millions of lives vs a couple hundred thousand is a no-brainer.

It must be great being smart and holy like you

at least I can write American.

we owe legal immigrants nothing but a chance

period

Sonosam on November 27, 2010 at 7:01 PM

Agreed

DarkCurrent on November 27, 2010 at 7:14 PM

I apologize for the doosh statement

it just burns me that foolish commie practices will cost us dearly

I shouldn’t say foolish because it’s by design

why do you think they have tried do hard yo make Iraq a failure?

Because they don’t want status quo broken in the ME

they love ghettos and squallor because that’s where they derive power

they have done their best knowing or not to protect the enemy

it doesn’t have to be that way and all that is needed is the gumption to fight evil and being that communism is inherently evil they sure don’t want autonomy in the ME or elsewhere

one of the posters said tgeyvwere at the Xmas tree lighting with 3children one being disabled

I have tears in my eyes at the thought and rage for the vermin

we fought similar evil on two fronts and we didn’t win by putting them through college and housing them at our expense or by trying to understand them

you must choose sides

Sonosam on November 27, 2010 at 7:25 PM

Another case of ceding to brutes

it was all okay to drive the whites out of Rhodesia

Maybe the indiginous were treated poorly but I’m sure they harken back for the good ole days of food on the table

a breadbasket nation reduced to starving people and where a million Zimbabwe dollars won’t buy a loaf of bread

at least blacks are in charge according to the UN

Sonosam on November 27, 2010 at 7:28 PM

DarkCurrent on November 27, 2010 at 7:00 PM

Perhaps you need to stop trolling this thread and actually make an argument and stop using the tactic of asking what the definition of is, is.

keep the change on November 27, 2010 at 8:07 PM

Perhaps you need to stop trolling this thread and actually make an argument and stop using the tactic of asking what the definition of is, is.

keep the change on November 27, 2010 at 8:07 PM

Stop running away from the question.

I was asking for your definition of the ideal racial and cultural balance in America, since you seem to believe there is one, apparently located somewhere near 1970.

Let me ask the question again, so it’s clear:

‘What is the ideal racial and cultural balance of America?’

You can select from the following, or write your own:

1. There is no ideal balance
2. I don’t know
3. The ideal balance is {insert ideal balance}
4. You’re asking for the definition of ‘is’

DarkCurrent on November 27, 2010 at 8:34 PM

http://law.rightpundits.com/?p=2556

The 19 year old, 6′-1″, 130 pound man is believed to have been ‘dreaming’ about ‘violent jihad’ against Americans since he was fifteen. “Since I was 15 I thought about all this. It’s gonna be a fireworks show … a spectacular show.”

Agents told him about women, children and other innocents being killed and gave him a chance to back down. Mohamed Mohamud chose to continue his destructive path.

The undercover agent reportedly cautioned Mohamud about the plan, saying there would be many children at the event.

Allegedly he replied that he was looking for “a huge mass that will … be attacked in their own element with their families celebrating the holidays.”

According to the affidavit he was not concerned about law enforcement because, “It’s in Oregon,” he said. “And Oregon, like, you know, nobody ever thinks about.”

I’ve heard quite a bit of this lately – that the terrorists will be focusing on cities that have not been part of the regular pattern.

=========

I, my wife and my 3 girls were right there in the middle of the crowd.
We had no idea what was going down. With my one girl disabled in a wheelchair, we had no ease of mobility even if we had just been injured.

silverfox on November 27, 2010 at 12:27 PM

You don’t need to this this, but there is a video clip at the link above that shows Portland’s Pioneer Square and how many people were there for the lighting. Damn scary.

Also in the clip is some astonishing admissions.

Brass on November 27, 2010 at 8:48 PM

The ideal balance is that white Christians in general don’t have to be taxed to death and cede opportunities in education and employment to illegal aliens and rediculous mass relocation of people who have no desire to respect our culture

we are being overun as a result of treacherous leaders under the guise of humanitarian reasons

they use these unwashed as a battering ram against our values and as customers for their social services that we pay for

our wealth and legacy are being stripped away and these interlopers are willing participants

they have no intention of assimilating therefore they should be kicked out, not be given a free ride

immigrants used to have to meet a standard which most of these dont and won’t even try

it’s not surprising that most of them are from other races and seem eager to agree with the commies that somehow it’s all our fault

we fought and spilled blood in our attempts to create the most civil and just society in this world to date and these nonconformists with the aid of the filthy commies seem delighted in the thought of bringing us back to the dark ages

again, we fought and bled to make this place better

maybe these others should try it themselves

It’s simple math

if we continue in this direction the caucasion race will disappear

Sonosam on November 27, 2010 at 8:53 PM

I, my wife and my 3 girls were right there in the middle of the crowd.
We had no idea what was going down. With my one girl disabled in a wheelchair, we had no ease of mobility even if we had just been injured.
silverfox on November 27, 2010 at 12:27 PM

my heart gos out to you and I’m greatly relieved that you are okay

it’s only a matter of time before one of these dirtbags hit paydirt

they have motive and opportunity, and are searching for the means

Sonosam on November 27, 2010 at 8:59 PM

The ideal balance is that white Christians in general don’t have to be taxed to death and cede opportunities in education and employment …

Is ‘white’ significant?

we are being overun

Tell it to the Sioux.

if we continue in this direction the caucasion race will disappear

Sonosam on November 27, 2010 at 8:53 PM

Are you a member of the Aryan Nations?

DarkCurrent on November 27, 2010 at 9:10 PM

WTF!!!!

I wish I could say that louder here.

Why are we not profiling everyone of Middle Eastern decent? I don’t care if this moron was a naturalized US citizen, he’s still from the Middle East, and a muslim.

Tell me it isn’t going to take another 9/11 before anyone wakes up. Of everyone involved in bombings, near-bombing, plots, plans how many have not been from the Middle East?

Damn!

stacman on November 27, 2010 at 9:11 PM

Intersting how these idiots can’t get one to go off. I guess we killed the right instructor somewhere.

johnnyU on November 27, 2010 at 9:37 PM

The ideal balance is that white Christians in general don’t have to be taxed to death and cede opportunities in education and employment …
Is ‘white’ significant?

Absolutely since they are the major bread winners and for the most part built this country and pretty much invented 95% of whatever is worth a damn in the world today

Tell it to the Sioux

tough break, but if wasn’t us it would have been somebody else

if we continue in this direction the caucasion race will disappear
Sonosam on November 27, 2010 at 8:53 PM
Are you a member of the Aryan Nations?

No, how often do you eff your sister? Your bother? Your mom? Your dad?your grand parents?

I don’t see any problem concerning oneself with self preservation and not being fed off of by parasites

la rasa okay?

Radical black theology okay?

Fact is we as a race have been pretty generous

did you know there were Christians in the ME before the mongrels?

They have been hunted to near extinction

the Armenians? Ditto

regardless of the few spices that were here during the creation of this country do we not have a right to survive?

Is Europe destined to be overrun by Muslims?

Where do the caucasions and Christians fit in under the current calculus?

It certainly doesn’t give me a warm fuzzy feeling knowing our gov commies relish bringing over boat loads of nonconforming savages

as I said before it makes more sense to go there and impress our standards

It’s a step up, not down

Sonosam on November 27, 2010 at 9:39 PM

DarkCurrent on November 27, 2010 at 8:34 PM

I keep answering your questions but it does nothing to inform you. You already asked at what time in our past we should freeze the make up and I answered. Whatever the cultural makeup was prior to 1970 would be fine by me.

keep the change on November 27, 2010 at 9:47 PM

Why is there even one somalian in the US?

Inanemergencydial on November 27, 2010 at 9:55 PM

Fact is we as a race have been pretty generous

What race is that?

did you know there were Christians in the ME before the mongrels?

I’m not familiar with the ‘mongrels’. Who are these?

….

…..

…… etc.

dude, you’re off your rocker.

DarkCurrent on November 27, 2010 at 10:04 PM

I keep answering your questions but it does nothing to inform you.

Making meaningless sounds doesn’t equal an answer.

You already asked at what time in our past we should freeze the make up and I answered. Whatever the cultural makeup was prior to 1970 would be fine by me.

keep the change on November 27, 2010 at 9:47 PM

Ok, so what was that? Can you make a checklist to process prospective immigrants by? Sounds like it should be easy for you. Let’s see it.

DarkCurrent on November 27, 2010 at 10:10 PM

Ok, so what was that? Can you make a checklist to process prospective immigrants by? Sounds like it should be easy for you. Let’s see it.

DarkCurrent on November 27, 2010 at 10:10 PM

You really are a dullard. I keep answering this question but you don’t understand what you are reading, so you keep asking the same question, along with what the definition of is, is.

So I will dumb it down further for you. Immigration policy can be crafted to encourage immigration from western nations, and discourage it from non-western nations without ever asking a single question of anyone trying to immigrate. Want to immigrant from Somalia? Then you bring $100,000 with you and a PhD. Want to immigrate from Scotland or Iceland? We pay your airfare. Now multiply that policy by ten million and see what it does for the racial and cultural makeup of the immigration stream.

Get it now?

keep the change on November 27, 2010 at 10:17 PM

You really are a dullard. I keep answering this question but you don’t understand what you are reading, so you keep asking the same question, along with what the definition of is, is.

keep the change on November 27, 2010 at 10:17 PM

Where did you answer it before?

DarkCurrent on November 27, 2010 at 10:29 PM

Want to immigrant from Somalia? Then you bring $100,000 with you and a PhD. Want to immigrate from Scotland or Iceland? We pay your airfare. Now multiply that policy by ten million and see what it does for the racial and cultural makeup of the immigration stream.

Get it now?

keep the change on November 27, 2010 at 10:17 PM

This will apply to everyone wanting to immigrate to the US from Scotland or Iceland?

Why are Scotland and Iceland the same? Is everywhere other than Somalia equal?

DarkCurrent on November 27, 2010 at 10:33 PM

Imam in drag.

jfshaughnessy on November 27, 2010 at 10:35 PM

Want to immigrate from Scotland or Iceland? We pay your airfare. Now multiply that policy by ten million and see what it does for the racial and cultural makeup of the immigration stream.

Get it now?

keep the change on November 27, 2010 at 10:17 PM

I guess you’ve never been to Europe if you think the US should pay airfare for anyone wanting to immigrate from Scotland or Iceland.

Speaking of Iceland, didn’t their economy just recently collapse? Yeah, need more of those.

DarkCurrent on November 27, 2010 at 10:46 PM

Anyone who has Mohammed in his name twice should be automatically profiled and have chips implanted in them. One chip will be the internal emergency destruct mechanism, just large enough to blow up his testacles. Kinda like rockets that can be destroyed if they go off course before they can cause any damage.

Big John on November 27, 2010 at 11:45 PM

Speaking of Iceland, didn’t their economy just recently collapse? Yeah, need more of those.

DarkCurrent

At least they have an economy. How’s that Somali economy doing?

xblade on November 28, 2010 at 4:17 AM

Speaking of Iceland, didn’t their economy just recently collapse? Yeah, need more of those.

DarkCurrent on November 27, 2010 at 10:46 PM

Feel free to discuss that with ‘Golden Sacks’. Iceland was ripped off and chewed up by Wall Street firms. We owe THEM an apology. BTW, how’s that bail-out workin’ for ya’?

Jeff2161 on November 28, 2010 at 5:47 AM

At least they have an economy. How’s that Somali economy doing?

xblade on November 28, 2010 at 4:17 AM

Don’t know, I’m not in Somalia. Most recent GDP growth here is just over 9%, maybe 9.5% How’s it doing where you are?

DarkCurrent on November 28, 2010 at 8:02 AM

The commies will say it’s racist but the fact is current caucasian countrie are being dispossessed

their own culture and history is irrelevent as we make way for the great unwashed

their is nothing wrong with their lands, in fact it could be quite beautiful if they had dome semblance of law

it’s Interesting to see how Christians of many different races are being cleansed from those lands yet nothing is being done about

instead we bring vast ammount of these problems to our shores which will blow up in our faces

I’ve been alive for 46 years and twenty years ago we wouldn’t be hearing a report of some Muslim trying yo kill hundreds at a Christmas tree lighting but now we do

we will lose our identity if we continue these psychotic immigration and refugee policies

they can clean up their own lands or they can wallow in it

we don’t blow up Ramadan parties or whatever the he’ll they do

but they will

why is it so important to try to intigrate nonconformists into out country

we need more Ali hassans?

They want to build a stinkin mosque at ground zero and they want us to pay for it

this is too much to swallow

Muslims are incomparable in our society

Sonosam on November 28, 2010 at 8:12 AM

Don’t know, I’m not in Somalia. Most recent GDP growth here is just over 9%, maybe 9.5% How’s it doing where you are?
DarkCurrent on November 28, 2010 at 8:02 AM

and where is that?

India?

Brazil?

Sonosam on November 28, 2010 at 8:31 AM

and where is that?

India?

Brazil?

Sonosam on November 28, 2010 at 8:31 AM

I bet you can get it on the third guess.

DarkCurrent on November 28, 2010 at 8:49 AM

Brazil’s a hard case to understand though, huh?

Colonized by Western European Christian Caucasians and still didn’t really pan out.

Must be the humidity.

DarkCurrent on November 28, 2010 at 8:54 AM

Answer my question or stfu

I don’t hold back

why are you such a pu$$y?

Sonosam on November 28, 2010 at 9:01 AM

Probably could have used a constitution like ours

Sonosam on November 28, 2010 at 9:02 AM

Answer my question or stfu

I don’t hold back

why are you such a pu$$y?

Sonosam on November 28, 2010 at 9:01 AM

I’ll just mock you.

Real men aren’t afraid to type ‘pussy’.

DarkCurrent on November 28, 2010 at 9:07 AM

I’m in Shanghai, China.

Where are you?

DarkCurrent on November 28, 2010 at 9:11 AM

Look at this tools face, there’s evil in his eyes! IF, we were allowed to profile, even the lamest, half blind security agent should be able to snatch this guy out of a crowd.

anniekc on November 28, 2010 at 9:15 AM

Long island New York

I thought the filters would prevent the use of the word

Chinese or other?

Sonosam on November 28, 2010 at 9:17 AM

That’s funny, I found out yesterday that you can’t type the drug

perc 0 cet

wonder why

Sonosam on November 28, 2010 at 9:21 AM

Chinese or other?

Sonosam on November 28, 2010 at 9:17 AM

American

DarkCurrent on November 28, 2010 at 9:26 AM

Real men aren’t afraid to type ‘pussy’.

DarkCurrent on November 28, 2010 at 9:07 AM

Oh damn. Your right. I screwed up on the cat thread.
*snapping fingers*

Electrongod on November 28, 2010 at 10:36 AM

this guy’s arrest we need to profile Beyonce types.

PappyD61 on November 28, 2010 at 11:43 AM

this guys arrest PROVES we need to profile Beyonce types.

PappyD61 on November 28, 2010 at 11:44 AM

They must be lining up in the big-house is just droolin’ over those pursed lips!!!!! Good-by sucka!!!!!

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on November 28, 2010 at 1:54 PM

Colonized by Western European Christian Caucasians and still didn’t really pan out.

Must be the humidity.

DarkCurrent on November 28, 2010 at 8:54 AM

That could be said about much of the world.

Guess that didn’t pan out.

Inanemergencydial on November 28, 2010 at 8:22 PM

DarkCurrent on November 27, 2010 at 10:33 PM

LOL, after reading much of this thread, I just had to stop here and laugh at how thoroughly you have plumbed the depths of ‘a$$hat’ in this one.

Midas on November 28, 2010 at 11:10 PM

Midas on November 28, 2010 at 11:10 PM

I take it you agree with some of the other commenters here that immigration to the US should be generally limited to white, western european Christians? That seems racist to me. Are you not a racist Midas?

DarkCurrent on November 29, 2010 at 4:55 AM

That’s all well and good, but do we have reason to believe there isn’t? Have the FBI and the Portland Police Bureau run down all of Mohamud’s friends and associates?

You know the Jawas will stay on it, Jimmie =)

ace tomato on November 29, 2010 at 7:45 AM

Not to start a flame war here, but unless Portland has changed policy recently this wasn’t a Christmas Tree lighting- though one could be forgiven mistaking Portland’s “Holiday Tree” for a Christmas Tree.

Browncoatone on November 29, 2010 at 7:50 AM

I take it you agree with some of the other commenters here that immigration to the US should be generally limited to white, western european Christians? That seems racist to me. Are you not a racist Midas?
DarkCurrent on November 29, 2010 at 4:55 AM

nope

just a matter of self preservation

funny

you are inthe land of xenophobes

maybe they should take on these savages who at any given moment may explode in a crowded market

eff liberal policies that put the indiginous at risk

of course they love this since it us an attack on Christianity too which is a major blockade to tyranny

god help the politician involved if someone who I care about is killed as a result of their treacherous policy

it’s simple math

why should Caucasian parts of the world take on other races when their is no reciprocol understanding

Caucasians are not welcome in these hellholes and would be likely murdered so why should we encourage our own diminishment

of course islam is the worst as witnessed by their consistant efforts of ethnic and religious cleansing in various parts of the world

you are miopic

Sonosam on November 29, 2010 at 11:09 AM

And to exasperate the problem is the commie progressive tax system

if I make a million dollars a year I am or anyone for that matter is not obligated to provide housing or and education gor these individuals

our prosperity would likely increase our birthrates if we were able to keep what we earn

instead the commie filth onerously tax prosperity under the disguise of humanitarian reasons when it’s anything but

they drag in masses and provide for them with our money

it is about control only

the Europeans and others who migrated werent provided for they were expected to provide for themselves

I’m sure I’m not the only one but if one of these effers pull off a Christmas tree bombing or whatever putting them on trial isn’t going to cut it

just retaliation will

my blood boils with the thought of these animals recklessly and purposely being shipped here

I reiterate

I’d rather see every Somalian dead I see an American perish at their hands

selfpreservation isn’t a sin

suicide is though

Sonosam on November 29, 2010 at 11:21 AM

you are inthe land of xenophobes

Who are you referring to as xenophobes? In any case, that’s rich hypocrisy coming from you.

you are miopic

Sonosam on November 29, 2010 at 11:09 AM

Consider using Firefox. It has a built-in spell checker.

DarkCurrent on November 29, 2010 at 11:22 AM

There is no comparison between China and America do suck it

I’m not a xenophobe if I’m intollerant of cultures that have no respect but more so animous to ours while we wrongfully provide for them

as for a few mispellings BFD, it’s obvious you get my drift so stick to the subject

you are a doosh

Sonosam on November 29, 2010 at 11:29 AM

you are a doosh

Sonosam on November 29, 2010 at 11:29 AM

You’re a ranting genocidal lunatic.

DarkCurrent on November 29, 2010 at 11:32 AM

I’m sure you must consider a real measure of success that numerous towns have been swamped with unconforming masses that are provided for by our corrupt government and have turned nice places into ghettos

we end up lookng more like them than us

of course the commies are the global guetto builders

I notice you don’t have many ideas just critiques

a dormant mind huh?

Sonosam on November 29, 2010 at 11:35 AM

you are a doosh
Sonosam on November 29, 2010 at 11:29 AM
You’re a ranting genocidal lunatic.
DarkCurrent on November 29, 2010 at 11:32 AM

nope

you are an ignorant selfserving suicidal lemming

I got a cliff for you that you can jump off of with your ideals

Sonosam on November 29, 2010 at 11:37 AM

nope

Sonosam on November 29, 2010 at 11:37 AM

It’s quite clear from your comments that in fact you are.

DarkCurrent on November 29, 2010 at 11:46 AM

The calculus is that you bring these people here which has lowered are standard of living and put us at major risk

the status quo of where they come from stays the same

so tell me, where is the progress?

Do you feel better?

Are your emotions sated?

This isn’t a net gain but a loss and only the most ignorant are blind to it

you want to help Somalis, go there and kill the effing warlords and anybody else involved with their draconian system and impress a constitution similar to ours

if you say it’s incompatible than isay WTF are you bringing them here for?

Oh yeah, I’m fuming all right

I’ve noticed throughout you haven’t had one unkind thing to say about our guest bomber

you are a pos

Sonosam on November 29, 2010 at 11:47 AM

nope
Sonosam on November 29, 2010 at 11:37 AM
It’s quite clear from your comments that in fact you are.
DarkCurrent on November 29, 2010 at 11:46 AM

no a$$hole

as I said it’s self preservation which you either lack or don’t care or somehow take advantage of

maybe we should have adopted the Nazi ideals or imperial Japanese ideals

get it yet?

Probably never will

Sonosam on November 29, 2010 at 11:50 AM

Oh yeah, I’m fuming all right

I’ve noticed throughout you haven’t had one unkind thing to say about our guest bomber

Sonosam on November 29, 2010 at 11:47 AM

He should be tried and when found guilty, executed.

DarkCurrent on November 29, 2010 at 11:50 AM

maybe we should have adopted the Nazi ideals or imperial Japanese ideals

get it yet?

Probably never will

Sonosam on November 29, 2010 at 11:50 AM

Your expressed views on racial and cultural superiority suggest you have a lot in common with these.

DarkCurrent on November 29, 2010 at 11:53 AM

Oh yeah, I’m fuming all right
I’ve noticed throughout you haven’t had one unkind thing to say about our guest bomber
Sonosam on November 29, 2010 at 11:47 AM
He should be tried and when found guilty, executed.
DarkCurrent on November 29, 2010 at 11:50 AM

in case you haven’t noticed, since Mohamed mohamed represents an ideal that willfully perishes with their savagery I don’t think that really is enough to make a dent in the problem

if anything the radical maniacs must laugh the filth off their bodies as they watch us deal with them so inneffectively

unless of course you disagree and think that they are impressed with our justice system and may be thoroughly chagrinned into changing their ways

Sonosam on November 29, 2010 at 12:00 PM

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