Oh my: New RINO/DINO alliance ready to take America by storm

posted at 4:55 pm on November 24, 2010 by Allahpundit

In fact, from what I can tell, it’s not so much RINO/DINO as it is a bunch of Democrats plus one lone Republican centrist, GOP strategist Mark McKinnon. A quick check of Open Secrets for the three major donors named — Andrew Tisch, Ron Shaich, and Dave Morin — reveals that they all typically donate to Democrats, and the three pols who are slated to attend the formal launch — Lieberman, Debbie Stabenow, and Antonio Villaraigosa — are, you guessed it, all Democrats. Which makes this yet another reminder that, for all the media hyperventilating about a GOP civil war between RINOs and tea partiers, the real action in intraparty warfare these days is between liberals and the centrists who’ll be stuck with them in the congressional minority for the foreseeable future.

In fairness, thanks to the money and names involved, they look to be a lot stronger than the Coffee Party. Think of them as … an Espresso Party?

The group, called “No Labels,” has drawn support from supporters and advisers of New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, the country’s most powerful independent politician, raising questions about his national political ambitions. Mr. Bloomberg has been invited to attend the group’s Dec. 13 launch…

The group’s goal is to start a centrist equivalent to the tea-party movement on the right and MoveOn on the left. It sees an opportunity based on the defeat of liberal Republicans in recent years and the heavy losses taken by conservative Democrats in 2010…

But for a potential third-party candidate, who has to overcome a litany of structural impediments, such groups can provide much-needed ground operations. “These efforts aren’t important; they’re invaluable” if Mr. Bloomberg decides to run, said a top Bloomberg adviser…

Key to the group’s future success is appealing to voters and lawmakers who feel alienated from the current tone of political discourse. In a recent meeting in Portsmouth, prospective “citizen leaders” were training on how to organize No Labels in their home districts.

“Hi, I’m Jun Choi, and I lost because I wasn’t extreme enough,” said the Democratic ex-mayor of Edison, N.J., who was opposed by unions in a primary.

Gosh, sure sounds like a stalking horse for a Bloomberg third-party candidacy. And look, turns out that McKinnon’s been touting a Bloomberg run for more than a year, and in more than one column. And oh, hey, they’re holding the official launch in New York City instead of the more logical locale of D.C. or some less cosmopolitan destination to demonstrate their grassroots appeal. All of which sounds super except for the fact that, as Bloomberg himself has noted, the constitutional procedures for deciding a presidential election where no one gets a majority of electoral votes basically precludes any chance of victory for a third-party candidate. To get to 270, Bloomy would target California, New York, and Florida as his base, and even if he won all three, that’d still leave him almost 160 electoral votes short. Frankly, I doubt he could even win New York. Remember, this is a guy who ran for mayor in 2009 as a two-term incumbent, who got an enthusiastic endorsement from the Times, who spent more than $100 million on his campaign, and who faced a low-profile generic Democrat in city comptroller Bill Thompson — and he still won by just four points. Had more Democratic donors not given up on Thompson as a lost cause early in the race, Bloomy might have gone down in flames. How’s that sort of electoral magic going to fare against Barack Obama when he’s sitting on a billion-dollar war chest? Especially in a climate of economic populism where a self-funded billionaire trying to buy himself the presidency might not appeal to voters as much as it did in 1992?

The basic problem with every RINO/DINO third-party movement is that they need a candidate who can capture the public’s imagination. And most centrists, almost by definition, don’t fit that bill, simply because it’s hard to get people excited about moderation. One type of centrist who might is the untainted, hypercompetent outsider who emerges from some field outside politics with a promise to clean up the system. Perot could be that guy in ’92 but Bloomberg, as a three-term mayor, can’t. Instead of touting his business record at the debate, he’d get bogged down in questions about what sort of nanny-state brain damage he suffers from to get him to worry so much about salt. The one guy who could play this part right now is Petraeus, but he won’t run and would need unbelievable amounts of money anyway to beat Obama. Another type of centrist who could conceivably catch fire is a charismatic independent sort with a solid political record he can leverage. The closest we have to that right now, I think, is Christie, but with only a year on the job and no desire to torpedo his shot at the GOP nomination in 2016 by waging a quixotic third-party campaign, he’s a nonstarter. Back to the drawing board, No Labels!

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Dear DINO, please see November. Get lost.

joeindc44 on November 24, 2010 at 5:50 PM

Antonio Villaraigosa aka, Tony Villar is a gangbanger. You’ll be forced to get gang tats, allah. Don’t join!

Blake on November 24, 2010 at 5:51 PM

The Weak Tea Party.

Good Solid B-Plus on November 24, 2010 at 5:52 PM

Antonio Villaraigosa aka, Tony Villar is a g*ngb*nger. You’ll be forced to get gang tats, allah. Don’t join!

Blake on November 24, 2010 at 5:52 PM

New RINO/DINO alliance ready to take America by storm

MOTTO: We might get around to it…if that’s OK with everyone.

landlines on November 24, 2010 at 5:54 PM

Astroturf, Bloomberg-style.

Big bucks and BS. Yeah, that’ll get the proles on our side!

novaculus on November 24, 2010 at 5:54 PM

In fact, from what I can tell, it’s not so much RINO/DINO as it is a bunch of Democrats plus one lone Republican centrist, GOP strategist Mark McKinnon

Oh, so it’s exactly like every other “centrist”/”Third Way” movement of the last decade?

Lehosh on November 24, 2010 at 5:54 PM

Trump! Trump! Trump!

WashJeff on November 24, 2010 at 5:58 PM

Immediately this quote came to mind:

Walk on road, hm? Walk left side, safe. Walk right side, safe. Walk middle, sooner or later [makes squish gesture] get squish just like grape.

LastRick on November 24, 2010 at 5:58 PM

The Four Loko Party.

GnuBreed on November 24, 2010 at 5:59 PM

Debbie (I Can Feel Global Warming when I Fly) Stabenow is hardly a DINO. She had a 0% American Conservative Union rating in 2009. She may well be the dumbest and ugliest woman in Congress. As a Michigan resident I am embarassed by her.

Dumb, ugly and liberal: Debbie is a three-time loser.

bw222 on November 24, 2010 at 6:00 PM

This is a movement that is completely for the New Yorkers.

It’s perfect.

portlandon on November 24, 2010 at 6:01 PM

Just what we don’t need.

NoLeftTurn on November 24, 2010 at 6:01 PM

Their plan for debt and deficit is to pay lip service to reforming the big three that are killing us … Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

Then they stick in “raising revenue”.

Same old big government jokers … higher taxes and gigantic social welfare programs. In other words, extremists.

The only people in this gaggle of groups that isn’t extreme is the Tea Party. Small government, low taxes, fiscal responsibility.

darwin on November 24, 2010 at 6:02 PM

Allah -

Only by your standards could Mark McKinnon be considered a centrist.

bw222 on November 24, 2010 at 6:02 PM

Don’t forget that “No Labels” propagandist adviser William Galston, is a big Dem campaign contributor.

I’d not be inclined to call McKinnon a centrist, either. He’s a liberal Dem who fell for the pied pipers of compassionate conservatism. Whether he fell for it because of it’s liberal bent, because it was the only way a liberal Dem could get political work in Texas, or some other reason, he’s not a centrist Republican, especially since he’s showing his true colors cozying up to a bunch of progressives to sell this “No Labels” abomination.

Dusty on November 24, 2010 at 6:03 PM

So maybe the Coffee party is real after all.

FloatingRock on November 24, 2010 at 6:06 PM

Their remedy is actually the status quo which we and future generations cannot afford.

CWforFreedom on November 24, 2010 at 6:06 PM

I have the answer to their conundrum.

Crist/Bloomberg 2012 or Bloomberg/Crist.
Lindsey Graham could be Secretary of State and McCain could be Secretary of Defense.

What could go wrong!!!?

Nelsa on November 24, 2010 at 6:08 PM

We can overthrow the tyranny of hyper-partisanship that dominates our political culture today.

Funny how partisanship only seems to matter when Republicans have power.

These people still want to keep all the massive entitlement programs that are the singular reason we’re so deep in debt … including ObamaCare.It’s nothing more than an effort by progressives to do anything they can to hold on to the nightmare they’ve saddled this nation with.

darwin on November 24, 2010 at 6:11 PM

So maybe the Coffee party is real after all.

FloatingRock on November 24, 2010 at 6:06 PM

Or maybe not…

In fairness, thanks to the money and names involved, they look to be a lot stronger than the Coffee Party. Think of them as … an Espresso Party?

The Coffee party is a non entity. If I were the new guys I’d just adopt the term and take it over.

FloatingRock on November 24, 2010 at 6:11 PM

Their remedy is actually the status quo which we and future generations cannot afford.

CWforFreedom on November 24, 2010 at 6:06 PM

Exactly … by giving lip serve to reform and spending cuts they seek to divert from their true mission. Save all the massive progressive entitlement programs.

darwin on November 24, 2010 at 6:12 PM

They see opportunity in the fact that liberal Republicans and conservative Democrats have been booted out of office in huge numbers?

What’s the opposite of opportunity?

S. Weasel on November 24, 2010 at 6:13 PM

Gosh, sure sounds like a stalking horse for a Bloomberg third-party candidacy.

This could be an interesting election. Maybe Palin should run 3rd party too. We could end up with a two way race, between the Tea part and the Coffee Party, the corrupt old establishment left in our wake.

FloatingRock on November 24, 2010 at 6:14 PM

I have the answer to their conundrum.

Crist/Bloomberg 2012 or Bloomberg/Crist.
Lindsey Graham could be Secretary of State and McCain could be Secretary of Defense.

What could go wrong!!!?

Nelsa on November 24, 2010 at 6:08 PM

Adding to your excellent list:

Moohcowski – Secretary of Pork
Frum – Speechwriter
Parker – Press Secretary

Norwegian on November 24, 2010 at 6:15 PM

Obama butt sniffer Tony Villar would not be involved in this if its purpose was to facilitate a Bloomberg run in 2012.

Mark1971 on November 24, 2010 at 6:15 PM

Tony Villar? You must best jesting. That bozo was the looser that finally drove me out of LA after 18 years. He is a DINO? More like south american marxist demagoging the toilet cleaners.

tommylotto on November 24, 2010 at 6:18 PM

Of course if they want to bleed the Democrats and make life easier for the fish bonker…. :)

Obama will find a way to buy them out don’tcha think?

Seth Halpern on November 24, 2010 at 6:19 PM

“If we finally fail in this great and glorious contest, it will be by bewildering ourselves in groping for the middle way.”
-John Adams, 1776

sandspur on November 24, 2010 at 6:19 PM

The Mafia Families may go to war every 5 or 10 years. But they will always protect the SYSTEM.

nothing to see here move along.

roflmao

donabernathy on November 24, 2010 at 6:19 PM

tommylotto on November 24, 2010 at 6:18 PM

The world has gone insane…

Blake on November 24, 2010 at 6:20 PM

oh please…like every time the Leftists lose they try to change their name…and all the little blogs have a story, and they are on CSPAN, etc.

their old role is to be head fake for non-junkies to the that there is a bipartisan, good government group that looks and feels good

Sadly, they’ll just convince enuf people that the Left can continue its mandate for central planning, and taking over the states. After all, one central DC government is a lot more efficient that all 57 states

r keller on November 24, 2010 at 6:20 PM

(:

Seth Halpern on November 24, 2010 at 6:20 PM

Nope, smiley not working today I see.

Seth Halpern on November 24, 2010 at 6:21 PM

No labels is going after the voters who label themselves anti-label? Brilliant!

mike_NC9 on November 24, 2010 at 6:22 PM

Just gotta ask, how much money is dear soros giving to plow up this snake? That bloomberg critter seems to be in bed with gobs of nasty people, soros? IMO, this stinks big time.
L

letget on November 24, 2010 at 6:23 PM

I can picture the ‘No Labels’ activist marching around with blank signs! Having blank bumper stickers!

‘We stand for nothing!’ will be the motto.

‘We’re in the center because we can’t figure out where that is!’ will be the credo.

Unfortunately between the Progressive Left and the Progressive Right is the Progressive Center… and Americans seems to be heading away from Progressivism these days. Soon the government will be dragged that way and the ‘No Labels’ folks will be left without standards, slogans, mottos or being in the ‘center’ of anything save a desert of their own creation.

ajacksonian on November 24, 2010 at 6:25 PM

This is hilarious, an uprising of elite moderates. What will their central issue be, banning salt? a mosque in every town?

exceller on November 24, 2010 at 6:25 PM

How about this for their motto?

You know the problem with you, is that you’re not smart enough to appreciate us.

joeindc44 on November 24, 2010 at 6:29 PM

McKinnon used to be a Dem, worked for them bf hooking up with W.

The thing is, these folks aren’t DINOS. They’re not the Gene Taylor style moderate, centerist Dems. With the exception of Lieberman on nat sec issues they are all standard issue lefty Dems. Including Bloomberg. I think it’s just the brand has gotten so slimed by their taking off the mask the last couple of years they’re trying to rebrand to survive.

lizzie beth on November 24, 2010 at 6:32 PM

The Decaf Party
Standing up for whatever

mad scientist on November 24, 2010 at 6:34 PM

Is this the O re-election plan? Split enough RINOs and Indies off the GOP candidate?

Done That on November 24, 2010 at 6:35 PM

As others have said, isn’t it amazing how this always coincides with conservative success- shocking!
This is nothing more than an attempt to siphon off GOP votes for 2012. Useful idiot subterfuge for Dear Leader.
Maybe Axelrod promised that skunk Villaraigosa the Presidency of New Aztlan for helping to front this scam.

jjshaka on November 24, 2010 at 6:35 PM

Bloomberg/Milquetoast 2012!

yay.

No, really, yay.

trigon on November 24, 2010 at 6:36 PM

This is another front opened up against the tea party movement. So, currently, it has three enemies:

1) the Democrats

2) the GOP mainstream

3) The No Labels Party

Kind of like Fox has to fight a five front war:

1) NBC

2) CBS

3) ABC

4) CNN

5) MSNBC

keep the change on November 24, 2010 at 6:36 PM

I say we call it the Viagra party.

They just need a little help to get excited.

trigon on November 24, 2010 at 6:40 PM

Is this the new gang of 14?

Oil Can on November 24, 2010 at 6:42 PM

The pic & caption for this post belong in the HA hall of fame.

I seriously lol’d.

Purple Fury on November 24, 2010 at 6:45 PM

Hi. I’m a wishy-washy sniveling spineless weakling that has no convictions whatsoever. I am chiefly characterized by my obscure anonymity, my overt mediocrity, and my lacklustre inability to inspire others regarding ANY of the burning issues of our time. Vote for me.

My collie says:

Hey CC, where’d you get that T-shirt that says, “Don’t label me bro’.”?

CyberCipher on November 24, 2010 at 6:46 PM

Kind of like Fox has to fight a five front war:

1) NBC

2) CBS

3) ABC

4) CNN

5) MSNBC

keep the change on November 24, 2010 at 6:36 PM

FNC is as successful as it is not because it’s good (many nights BORe and Hannity are unwatchable and Pumpkin Head is on virtually every night) but because it has a monopoly and conservatives have no where else to go.

The five networks you cited and PBS battle over the 20% liberal market share while FNC has a monopoly on a 40% – 45% market share.

bw222 on November 24, 2010 at 6:47 PM

bw222 on November 24, 2010 at 6:47 PM

They still have to fight the other networks, regardless of market share. More importantly, they have to fight for the independent viewers, not for the far lefties. And independents have six choices to chose from, and FOX is only one of the six networks they can go to.

keep the change on November 24, 2010 at 6:50 PM

I think Bloomberg would pull more support from disappointed Obama voters than republicans. Splitting the statist vote = big win

Chazz on November 24, 2010 at 6:51 PM

They want the enthusiasm that the Tea Party has in GOTV and fundraising, but an “enthusiastic moderate” is an oxymoron.

Wethal on November 24, 2010 at 6:52 PM

Moohcowski – Secretary of Pork
Frum – Speechwriter
Parker – Press Secretary

Spitzer – Procurement

drunyan8315 on November 24, 2010 at 6:57 PM

It’s the Moca Latte with Half Skim Half 2% Party.

Akzed on November 24, 2010 at 6:59 PM

Anything involving Mr. Bloomberg is certain to fall a bit short.

Mason on November 24, 2010 at 6:59 PM

Gosh, sure sounds like a stalking horse for a Bloomberg third-party candidacy.

Gosh, sure as hell does.

The time for “moderates”, just like the time for “bipartisanship” and “transformation”, has passed. Now is the time for restoration.

petefrt on November 24, 2010 at 7:01 PM

lol the photo just made me lol

its so awkward

blatantblue on November 24, 2010 at 7:02 PM

How about the Flaccid party?

Chazz on November 24, 2010 at 7:04 PM

Nice analysis, AP. Has the General been definitive in rejecting a run? I think Petraeus absolutely would have a chance in 2012. He’d need to bail on Afghanistan right now, though, which I’m sure would go against every fiber in his being. But if he thought the current policy a lost cause, and viewed winning the Presidency as the only route to bringing victory to the war effort, then I could see him biting the bullet and making that a central part of his campaign.

Just speculating. Sure would screw up the works if he threw his hat in the ring. Talk about a blogger’s dream come true!

nukemhill on November 24, 2010 at 7:11 PM

New RINO/DINO alliance ready to take America by storm
AP leads the way.

The Notorious G.O.P on November 24, 2010 at 7:17 PM

Sounds like a party in search of John Anderson. I guess Obama is more and more like Carter every day. We’ve even started seeing stories asking if the presidency is “just too big for one man” again.

There Goes The Neighborhood on November 24, 2010 at 7:21 PM

In fact, from what I can tell, it’s not so much RINO/DINO as it is a bunch of Democrats plus one lone Republican centrist, GOP strategist Mark McKinnon.

BTW, isn’t that pretty much the definition of RINO?

There Goes The Neighborhood on November 24, 2010 at 7:22 PM

If they’re a warmist they’re not a centrist.

JEM on November 24, 2010 at 7:25 PM

Coffee Party Re-named

EliTheBean on November 24, 2010 at 7:33 PM

We’ve had enough of the moderates.

Let’s load the Congress with real progressives and Tea Partiers and let them hammer away at each other.

Only then will we get, consensus.

rickyricardo on November 24, 2010 at 7:39 PM

Linda McMahon is running a “Happy Thanksgiving” ad here in CT, even though she lost a costly election. I think it’s pretty obvious she plans to keep working on her public image and then make a run for Lieberman’s seat in 2012. With the vote split three ways, and with a serious Republican candidate, we might have a chance here.

Daemonocracy on November 24, 2010 at 7:40 PM

The group’s goal is to start a centrist equivalent to the tea-party movement on the right and MoveOn on the left.

Effin’ please. If they equate the Tea Party to Moveon.org, then they have serious problems right out of the gate. the first being they have no idea where the political center is in reality; they’re starting too far left by default.

JeffWeimer on November 24, 2010 at 7:42 PM

Transfat and salt will be nothing compared the Bloomberg’s championing of the Ground Zero Mosque.

Cindy Munford on November 24, 2010 at 7:45 PM

What nonsense. Panera’s had Obama’s face plastered all over the place. I haven’t set foot in one since before the last election.

Does everyone have amnesia?

erp on November 24, 2010 at 7:52 PM

This is detsined to go the coffe party way. McKinnon is a Frum who refused to run ads against Obama that is how commited he is to the right. As pointed out the rest are Dems. Third party sounds great until you realize that people who are unaffliated who political plate looks different from one another. Therefore they don’t have a platform that the group can all live with and as such they can never rally a majority to ANY candidate they nominate.

Conan on November 24, 2010 at 7:58 PM

Yeah, this is an idea that’s going to catch like wildfire.

Yeah.

dczombie on November 24, 2010 at 7:58 PM

Just gotta ask, how much money is dear soros giving to plow up this snake?
letget on November 24, 2010 at 6:23 PM

Somebody said a million dollars, but that’s a crock.

You can bet your ass all he did was transfer some money to an account over which he has sole authority. (I.e., he “contributed” to no one but himself.)

logis on November 24, 2010 at 8:07 PM

They could be called the Low T party. I heard that term on a commercial the other day.

FloatingRock on November 24, 2010 at 8:13 PM

Low-T, maybe…

FloatingRock on November 24, 2010 at 8:13 PM

You know the problem with you, is that you’re not smart enough to appreciate us.

joeindc44 on November 24, 2010 at 6:29 PM

That’s been copyrighted by the Democratic Party of America.

Maybe they could go with

“Vote for us or you’re as stupid as we tell you you are!”

SuperCool on November 24, 2010 at 9:15 PM

Also, isn’t didn’t McKinnon quit the McCain campaign to actively campaign for Obama in the first place?

Buyer’s remorse?

SuperCool on November 24, 2010 at 9:18 PM

The RINO/DINO Party will provide the perfect alternative for Noonan, Parker, Frum and Brooks and probably quite a few of the swells from the NE who are technically Republicans. Think of the list of potential GOP candidates for ’12 and it’s easy to figure how the swells will react. Palin- of course not, Mitt- he’s a Mormon, Huck-Southern (OMG)squirrel eating preacher, Jindal- the President of color thing is now passe, Newt-egad old boy, all the rest- provincials from flyover country.

JimP on November 24, 2010 at 10:27 PM

I look forward to it; might see some more RINO Hunter Association t-shirts out there.

michaelo on November 24, 2010 at 11:28 PM

EGADS what IS IT with these political elites in New England? Dayum, NO ONE outside of New England gives a rat’s ass about Bloomberg. Why do they keep talking about a Presidential run with this guy? Geeeeshh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

karenhasfreedom on November 25, 2010 at 1:09 AM

NO ONE outside of New England gives a rat’s ass about Bloomberg.
karenhasfreedom on November 25, 2010 at 1:09 AM

More like just New York. The rest of New England think of it the same way America thinks of New England.

logis on November 25, 2010 at 6:50 AM

Bloomberg is done. He would take all his votes from democraps of which he is one despite his buying of the republican nomination in his first two terms (though he quit the party halfway through his second term). Quitting the repub party and trashing its principles would do wonders for his appeal there.
And lets not forget Bloomberg’s pro amnesty positions that will do wonders for him in the border states. And he has failed in ten years to get three buildings built at ground zero, and his support for a GZ mosque, his competence is also in question. He’s also a green hypocrite flying his private jet wherever at ‘great cost to the environment’.
The only reason that he got re-elected is that the democraps put up such leftwing candidates who would have destroyed the city faster. Not a great endorsement.

eaglewingz08 on November 25, 2010 at 9:09 AM

Bloomberg will never be elected outside of the Urban Northeast. His anti-gun and anti-anything-outside-of-NY make him pure poison anywhere else.

As for the rest of the DINO/RINO crowd – didn’t they just get their butts kicked?

rspock on November 25, 2010 at 10:26 AM

Elephant, Donkey and…Dead skunk in the middle of the road

…Stinkin’ to high Heaven!

cartooner on November 25, 2010 at 10:40 AM

I know RINOsaurs exist, but I am quite sure DINOsaurs do not exist, they have in the distant past , but they don’t now.

cableguy615 on November 25, 2010 at 6:57 PM