Chris Matthews: TSA Uproar Meant to Hurt Obama

posted at 2:30 pm on November 24, 2010 by Matt Lewis

Tuesday night on MSNBC’s “Hardball,” host Chris Matthews described the recent uproar over the TSA as “the right wing’s ginned up controversy.”

This, of course, is a narrative liberals are hoping to push.

During his discussion with The Washington Examiner’s Tim Carney, Matthews went on to imply that conservatives are only outraged over the TSA’s procedures because they want to hurt President Obama politically.

Here’s an excerpt:

Matthews: … Generally speaking, the American right wing is pretty tough on law and order, and if a cop wants to stop a guy and frisk him, you’ve never had a problem with that on the right.  Ever.  Now you have a problem with people being scanned on airplanes.  Why is there a big difference?

Carney: Well, if this is leading to Americans, you know, conservatives, becoming more skeptical of governmental power …

Matthews:  No.  I think they’re seizing it as an opportunity to put the president under pressure and to attack his administration …

This, of course, is not the first time liberals have argued conservatives are applying a double-standard to Obama.  We also heard that during the Tea Party protests (which the left initially referred to as “astroturf”).  In that instance, liberals wondered why conservatives were suddenly outraged by Obama’s spending (they never mention that Obama makes Bush look like a green eyeshade budget hawk).

And while liberals are, themselves, hoping to score political points by pushing the notion that the TSA outrage is just cheap politics, that doesn’t mean the question isn’t worth examining.

Are conservatives just using the TSA uproar as a cudgel to bash Obama?

First, it should be noted that there are plenty of consistent conservatives.  As Carney said to Matthews on “Hardball” Tuesday night, “Did you object when Bush’s NSA was listening in on phone calls?  I did. I know you did — I read your columns.”

What is more, whether or not you believe the TSA should continue their screening policies, dismissing the outrage as purely bogus strikes me as a misreading of the public’s mood right now.

And it’s also worth noting there has long been a tension on the right between preserving law and order and protecting civil liberties.

Civil society, of course, requires a government to perform certain functions.  Even hard-core libertarians are not anarchists.  But as the saying goes, “a government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have.”  That’s the rub.

Coming of age politically in the 1990s, as I did, the current environment — where the libertarian strand of conservatism is a bit more prominent — strikes me as the natural state of conservatism.  Someone a few years younger (or older) might disagree.

That conservatives wrestle with this issue is not terribly surprising.

But let’s be honest — Matthews raises a legitimate point.  There is some truth to the notion that conservatives tend to become more skeptical of government when Democrats are in charge, and more trusting when Republicans are in charge.

This does not mean conservatives are intentionally trying to politically hurt a Democratic president, but it may mean conservatives are, perhaps, too trusting of Republican presidents.  (To some extent, this makes perfect sense).

Regardless, rather than impugn the motives of conservatives, I think it’s worth having a real discussion over this topic.  Operating on the assumption that the recent uproar over the TSA reflects a sincere belief that the government is over-stepping its authority, let me end with this parting question:

Would this same outrage have manifested itself if George W. Bush were still president?


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go get’em…

cmsinaz on May 23, 2013 at 8:05 PM

Among those officials: Jacob Sullivan, then deputy chief of staff and director of policy planning (and currently national security adviser to Vice President Joe Biden); Victoria Nuland, then State Department spokesman; Raymond Maxwell, deputy assistant secretary of state for near east affairs; Patrick Kennedy, undersecretary of state for management; and Eric Boswell, former assistant secretary of state for diplomatic security.

Boom.

peski on May 23, 2013 at 8:05 PM

hillary needs to come back as well….

cmsinaz on May 23, 2013 at 8:06 PM

I wonder if these whistleblowers are included.

PJM EXCLUSIVE: Ex-Diplomats Report New Benghazi Whistleblowers with Info Devastating to Clinton and Obama

…These whistleblowers, colleagues of the former diplomats, are currently securing legal counsel because they work in areas not fully protected by the Whistleblower law.

…The former diplomats inform PJM the new revelations concentrate in two areas — what Ambassador Chris Stevens was actually doing in Benghazi and the pressure put on General Carter Ham, then in command of U.S. Africa Command (AFRICOM) and therefore responsible for Libya, not to act to protect jeopardized U.S. personnel.

Stevens’ mission in Benghazi, they will say, was to buy back Stinger missiles from al-Qaeda groups issued to them by the State Department, not by the CIA. Such a mission would usually be a CIA effort, but the intelligence agency had opposed the idea because of the high risk involved in arming “insurgents” with powerful weapons that endanger civilian aircraft.

…Regarding General Ham, military contacts of the diplomats tell them that AFRICOM had Special Ops “assets in place that could have come to the aid of the Benghazi consulate immediately (not in six hours).”

Ham was told by the White House not to send the aid to the trapped men, but Ham decided to disobey and did so anyway, whereupon the White House “called his deputy and had the deputy threaten to relieve Ham of his command.”

INC on May 23, 2013 at 8:08 PM

President Obama on Thursday nominated Victoria Nuland, a State Department official involved in the editing of the administration’s talking points on Benghazi, to be the next assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian affairs.

via politico

is he really that clueless????

cmsinaz on May 23, 2013 at 8:10 PM

As the investigation into the Obama administration’s handling of the attacks on U.S. facilities in Benghazi intensifies, lawmakers on Capitol Hill are seeking to conduct transcribed interviews with thirteen top State Department officials in the coming weeks in order to learn more.

I don’t know the details of a transcribed interview. Will they be under oath?

Curtiss on May 23, 2013 at 8:11 PM

is he really that clueless????

cmsinaz on May 23, 2013 at 8:10 PM

Arrogant and narcissistic. He may think he’s completely untouchable because for his entire political life, he’s pretty much done whatever he wanted to do and gotten away with it.

INC on May 23, 2013 at 8:12 PM

INC on May 23, 2013 at 8:12 PM

tru dat

cmsinaz on May 23, 2013 at 8:12 PM

So we’re coming up to hit about two full weeks of scandals?

Still more revelations every day as the stable doors burst open on this Augean Administration.

INC on May 23, 2013 at 8:14 PM

Nothing wrong with pandering to your ever decreasing base I guess.

HotAirLib on May 23, 2013 at 8:16 PM

i’m just gonna say it: Darell Issa is sexy!

GhoulAid on May 23, 2013 at 8:17 PM

Keeping up pressure is a fitting tribute for Memorial Day.

ajacksonian on May 23, 2013 at 8:17 PM

I have no confidence that Issa has what it takes to get to the truth of any of these scandals.

blue13326 on May 23, 2013 at 8:19 PM

President Obama on Thursday nominated Victoria Nuland, a State Department official involved in the editing of the administration’s talking points on Benghazi, to be the next assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian affairs.
via politico

is he really that clueless????

cmsinaz on May 23, 2013 at 8:10 PM

Nothing wrong with pandering to your ever decreasing base I guess.

HotAirLib on May 23, 2013 at 8:16 PM

You are correct for once.

VegasRick on May 23, 2013 at 8:22 PM

Nothing wrong with pandering to your ever decreasing base I guess.

HotAirLib on May 23, 2013 at 8:16 PM

Fiat justitia et ruant coeli
Let justice be done, though the heavens fall.

INC on May 23, 2013 at 8:28 PM

Note to ERIKA JOHNSEN: the “womp” is missing.r Please pick up the blue courtesy phone in the lobby.

ExpressoBold on May 23, 2013 at 8:33 PM

HAL, Sing daisy for us.

Can’t handle your messiah failing huh?

The next few weeks should be fun, well for us not you. You’ll soon be curled up in the fetal potition sucking your thumb.

Tissue?

D-fusit on May 23, 2013 at 8:51 PM

hillary needs to come back as well….

cmsinaz on May 23, 2013 at 8:06 PM

Hillary will be back on her deathbed before she goes back to Congress. She wants to be President. She timed her last appearance (not under oath) so that it was just before her victory lap as the best SecState ever. She’s not going to willingly go back to Congress and have to answer the questions that the ARB should have asked if it were conducted by men of integrity instead of Mullen and Pickering.

Happy Nomad on May 23, 2013 at 8:52 PM

Nothing wrong with pandering to your ever decreasing base I guess.

HotAirLib on May 23, 2013 at 8:16 PM

Well, we’ll see how that works out for the rat-eared traitor. Fewer and fewer supporters everyday as the scandals take their toll. It is only a matter of time before Bo denies that he knows this filthy corrupt bastard (literally).

Happy Nomad on May 23, 2013 at 8:55 PM

Nothing wrong with pandering to your ever decreasing base I guess.

HotAirLib on May 23, 2013 at 8:16 PM

ZOMG!!11!! HAL has become a Republican! Thank goodness! I was in fear for your almost-immortal soul. (You still owe time to Satan, for your years of apostasy).

Um, what was that…? HAL attempted sarcasm? Well, butter my butt, and call me a biscuit! And they told me libbabies don’t have a sense of humor! Good, HAL, good. In a few years, you might be eligible to apply for human race membership.

Your Libbiebers are going down in flames, HAL. Enjoy the weenie roast.

creekspecter on May 23, 2013 at 9:36 PM

Nobody is in jail yet. One vacation, and one 3 week early retirement.

I like the line,, but results would be good.

IRS agents in a supermax general population.

wolly4321 on May 23, 2013 at 9:53 PM

There’s been some concern[-trolling] that Republicans might be pushing their luck with the extent to which they are focusing on Scandalmania and especially the ongoing Benghazi debacle, but a CNN poll earlier this week confirmed that a healthy majority of 59 percent of Americans approve of the way Republicans have been handling the investigation…

We’ve hit a point in this country where political gamesmanship should not be considered. Even if the poll were not favorable, this is the hill to die on–because if someone does not reign in this out-of-control administration, there will be no more hills. When one party ruthlessly and brazenly abuses the power of the public offices it controls to punish its political enemies, what follows–barring some sort of intervention and house cleaning–is tyranny.

It is truly terrifying how far along that path we have slipped. I shudder to think what will happen if the Republicans let these egregious wrongs–these assaults against everything America stands for–go. It’s heartening that 59% of Americans get that. (Of course, it would be great if the percentage were higher, but I’m willing, all things considered, to see that in a glass-a-bit-past-half-full kind of way.)

And when I consider how I would react if this were a Republican administration rather than a Democrat one, I feel exactly the same way. I would want the guilty parties identified, removed from office, and suitably punished. Either we are a people that believes in the rule of law, or we are a people willing to be subject to the capricious desires of whoever happens to hold the most power.

May God help us, and may justice be done–no matter what polls say.

butterflies and puppies on May 23, 2013 at 10:10 PM

are going to hold Secretary Kerry to his promise to run “an accountable and open State Department”:

Yeah? And what’s the ‘expiration date’ going to be on that “promise”?

GarandFan on May 23, 2013 at 10:24 PM

The backdrop for all this corruption is a media, an educational system, and an entertainment industry that all act as propagandists for one political party and one political ideology.

Imagine a theatre filled with an audience who have diverse political views. Yet the sound engineer, the lighting engineer, the actors, the musicians, the stage hands, the ushers, and the candy vendors all act in unison to promote one point of view.

This is the America that we live in today, and the GOP are to blame for sitting on their hands and allowing this situation to metastasize for the past 40 years, based on the idiot logic of “hey, we’re still winning our fair share of elections, so let’s stay above the fray”.

When the next Civil War begins, it can also be ended in one day. Just bomb the hell out of every college campus faculty lounge, every Hollywood studio, and the HQ of every MSM outlet, and then watch America slowly go back to normal.

Cut all three heads off of the snake.

ardenenoch on May 23, 2013 at 11:46 PM

Considering how dreadfully FEW were involved in last years elections I’m glad our remaining representatives are still taking their jobs seriously.

If more don’t start getting involved NOW I couldn’t blame them for letting these matters drop.

Let them eat cake, right?

DannoJyd on May 24, 2013 at 1:05 AM

…reign in…
butterflies and puppies on May 23, 2013 at 10:10 PM

Sorry–should be “rein in.” I’m going to blame it on a combination of tiredness, distraction, and the unsettling specter of a power-mad monarch looming over the future of this country. ;)

butterflies and puppies on May 24, 2013 at 1:37 AM