Barbara Bush Hitting Palin to Help Jeb?
posted at 7:26 pm on November 22, 2010 by Matt Lewis
… That’s what Jonathan Alter argued during our panel on MSNBC’s ‘Dylan Ratigan Show’ today.
Personally, I think Barbara Bush’s Palin-bashing (assuming saying she hopes Palin stays in Alaska qualifies as “bashing”) has more to do with her moderate political philosophy than it does with any strategy for helping elect her son.
Having said that, I am starting to hear rumors that Jeb is telling potential prominent supporters to “keep their powder dry,” meaning not to endorse or support any 2012 candidates until they check back with him.
There is no doubt that Jeb Bush is highly qualified, and if his name were “Jeb Smith,” he would be the 2012 front-runner today.
In any event, this is good, fun speculation.
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First off, I’m not sure that we/they say no other Republican is as good as “Sarah.” But I do know the person(s) ranting are you and folks like Bradky and Marcus, who have no substantive reasons to oppose her, but continue to denigrate her and her supporters;, with the same old, tired, worn out cliches. It’s not even that you field NEW Talking Points, you just keep trotting out the same old ones. That’s ranting and that’s ON YOU.
As usual you are 180 degrees out of it…it’s YOU who give the anti-Palin forces a bad name. Continual personal attacks on Palin, having nothing to do with policy. And in your case a an obsession with LYING about certain things, i.e., the 2013 CPAC Straw Poll.
You’ve gone beyond laughable to pathetic….and if this is the quality of the anti-Palin stalwarts; well then she has little to fear, should she decide to run.
JFKY on March 29, 2013 at 5:41 PM
Hahaha. That about says it all.
Sarah Palin, stop taking credit for Marco Rubio’s victory!!
bluegill on March 29, 2013 at 5:42 PM
You really are a punkass. You took all that was in the Shark Tank article and all you copy & paste is that? You are one deranged person.
NoNails on March 29, 2013 at 5:45 PM
What an incredibly cynical, absurd thing to suggest. How dare you suggest that rightly calling Palin groupies “Palin worshipers” is in any way a reference to anyone’s faith. How dare you exploit other people’s faith as an excuse to try to shut up people who disagree with you. Guess what, wolf, most of those who know we can and should do better than Palin are also conservative Christians. Sorry, not all of us are willing to bow down and worship an incompetent politician like Palin.
bluegill on March 29, 2013 at 5:49 PM
These poll results only confirm what we all already know. Sarah Palin is not even close to being conservatives’ top choice for president. It’s mostly only liberals want Sarah Palin to run.
I ask you Palin groupies again: why didn’t Sarah Palin get more support in the CPAC poll? What conspiracy theory are you going to hold up to explain away her embarrassing showing?
Why don’t any of you answer? Instead you want to insult me and all other conservatives who refuse to kneel down and kiss Palin’s feet.
bluegill on March 29, 2013 at 6:00 PM
bluegill on March 29, 2013 at 5:49 PM
Your “how dare yous” make me laugh.
Sarah Palin is going to be in the public eye for YEARS.
Aitch748 on March 29, 2013 at 6:00 PM
bluegill on March 29, 2013 at 6:00 PM
You mean Palin’s spectacular flameout when she tied with Bobby Jindal in a straw poll where 48% of the votes went to the two guys (out of TWENTY-THREE) who had been in the news the most (Rand Paul and Rubio)? And yet she still did better than more than half of the people on the poll? Yeah, Palin is just OVER. (*rolling my eyes*) That whole Liberty Pose thing just made her a laughingstock all over again. I guess we’ll have to start flocking to Rick Santorum, seeing as how he came in third. /sarc
But you just keep flogging the DEAD LAST!!!!!!!!!!!! thing, though, and screaming “HOW DARE YOU” at random posters while telling us how much you admire Palin even though you can’t stop claiming she’s a clown.
Aitch748 on March 29, 2013 at 6:13 PM
Excuse me. Didn’t realize that the word ‘worship’ was so very integral to your spiel. It wasn’t my intention to put a stop to being insulted, just a three day respite from accusations of what might be considered blasphemy.
Carry on.
wolfsDad on March 29, 2013 at 6:22 PM
That’s rich coming from someone who refuses to say what they would’ve done in the situation Palin was in while constantly criticizing her for stepping down. Why don’t you answer?
topdawg on March 29, 2013 at 6:31 PM
So in a meaningless poll Palin came in the middle of the pack, for a race she’s not even entered….and this PROVES she’s burned out…
You know who’s burned out, YOU ARE BLUEGILL…you just keep trotting this same poll time-after-time and expect THIS time we’ll all go “OOH-AH”.
Instead we just laugh and point at you…..
JFKY on March 29, 2013 at 6:33 PM
Remarkable how Sarah Palin has gotten under your skin and in your head. Even more striking about your fear and loathing, the monomaniacal attacks (as in the endless references to “worshippers”, an obvious projection of your own inverted worship, i.e., animus) is that it is based on Palin’s potential rather than any actual reality. She didn’t win in 2008, she didn’t run in 2012, and she shows no inclination to run in 2016. So there is really nothing going on here to account for the obsession, politically speaking. Palin does only ONE thing — attempt to elect conservatives. And she seems to be fairly good at it. That’s it.
This puts the whole issue into the realm of the personal.
You are so unnerved by her — by you own wild and bitter envy — you’ve driven yourself into the screaming margins such that you are forced to come up with inanities like the statement above — “it’s mostly only liberals want Sarah Palin to run.”
But you can’t stop.
rrpjr on March 29, 2013 at 7:39 PM
Bluegill needs a new drool cup. The mouth-breathing is audible from a distance. Pity being such a dullard low info type.
tom daschle concerned on March 29, 2013 at 7:42 PM
I think this is important and should be on this page. Thanks so much for clearing that up.
bluefox on March 29, 2013 at 8:02 PM
Not to mention this;
http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/attack-on-palin-and-sarahpac-misses-the-mark/
narciso on March 29, 2013 at 8:18 PM
LOL. The straw poll was taken within hours of her big big speech. One could argue you’d think she should have made more of a dent in Marco’s numbers, who had come and gone for days.
Marcus on March 29, 2013 at 8:32 PM
You mean that meaningless straw poll for an election 3.5 years from now, THAT poll which, apparently, means so much…at least to you and Bluegill. The poll of potential CANDIDATES, but not really declared candidates, that poll?
I think you and Bluegill need to meet at the Waffle House and just talk about how you hate Palin…or love macrame…it would give both of you something to do and a friend.
JFKY on March 29, 2013 at 8:36 PM
The vast majority of the CPAC attendees who even bother to vote in the straw poll, don’t wait until the last day. They usually do it at their first opportunity. Not even 50% of the attendees vote in the straw poll because they know it’s worthless.
NoNails on March 29, 2013 at 8:56 PM
LOL. Meanwhile Rick Perry, who also spoke, didn’t even make it past “undecided”.
ddrintn on March 29, 2013 at 9:22 PM
Dr. Ben Carson has been attacked and called vile names. He was asked about that and Rush had most of what his response was.
“Oh, this is a trick we learned in the third grade. If you can’t deal with people, you just start calling them names and insulting.”
Ben Carson said, “If you don’t have anything useful to say then you attack people. Intelligent people tend to talk about the facts. They don’t sit around and call each other names. That’s what you can find on a third grade playground.”
What Dr. Carson said is so applicable to bluegill and the other Palin haters that I had to post it.
bluefox on March 29, 2013 at 9:30 PM
It’s all they’ve got, so they flog it. Just like they flogged the “quitter” meme. They’ve never been able to critique her policies, ethics, executive ability. It’s all personal. Certain women can’t stand her accomplishments and vitality and other “assets”, likewise certain men can’t stand successful and assertive women.
rrpjr on March 29, 2013 at 9:32 PM
“I love Marco Rubio!” replied Palin. “Marco, keep up the good work. Call me.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WJlFJehq_Yo
Viator on March 29, 2013 at 9:34 PM
That’s true. Another thing that I commented on a couple of weeks ago and it’s this Straw Poll and any other Poll for that matter:
The results of any Poll cannot be judged without knowing the questions that were asked. From what I’ve read, there were many questions asked, not just one. If the questions were posed so as to result in a certain outcome, then the results are suspect.
We saw how misleading the 2012 Election Polls were, LOL Personally, I don’t put any stock in Polls because most questions are designed on the outcome one wants:-)
bluefox on March 29, 2013 at 9:39 PM
I am curious to see if she will run for senate herself, from Alaska or somewhere else…
Sarah really needs a hands on job, and she did leave Fox, I thought maybe so she could be free to run for something. She had to leave the Governors office, but I think she would not have the same problems in the Senate just because the Gov. has to work day to day on so many issues and is an executive, a senator is a member.
Maybe there is a congressional seat for her.
Fleuries on March 29, 2013 at 9:48 PM
Brian Lerch just did another takedown on John Avlon’s hit piece.
http://conservatives4palin.com/2013/03/no-labels-smear-merchant-at-it-again.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
NoNails on March 29, 2013 at 10:17 PM
Palin is focused on 2014. I don’t know why so many people try to look past 2014 to talk about why she shouldn’t run in 2016. For you PDSers, please explain why her efforts to help Conservatives get elected in 2014 is such a bad thing. And don’t even try to say she will hurt the candidates. History says otherwise.
For some of you, anything short of Palin retreating to an igloo in the Alaska tundra seems to give you the vapors. She’s here and she’s going to make a difference and she’s going to make a difference for a long time. Get over it.
NoNails on March 29, 2013 at 10:23 PM
Thanks for the links and comments. They help explain some of the opposition toward her.
bluefox on March 29, 2013 at 11:31 PM
Sarah Palin needs to be reminded that she isn’t the center of the conservative political universe.
bluegill on March 29, 2013 at 11:59 PM
It is really bad form to spam post entire articles like that. I believe you could be in violation of HotAir commenting rules.
I wish you Palin worshipers could be a little more respectful of this community, instead of just going off on whomever dares criticize your idol Sarah.
If you want to post links to articles on your Palin fan pages, then fine. But please limit your excerpts to only a few paragraphs.
bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 12:03 AM
No, she is again leading on her worshipers, making them think she is running. Then these dolts will only support her and will trash all other Republicans. Sarah Palin also works to foster division among conservatives, and she openly advocated prolonging last year’s primary season, even though it was harmful to the eventual nominee, even suggesting she would be open to throwing her hat in the ring at a hypothetical brokered convention. She is a terrible, inarticulate spokesperson for conservatives, and liberals love holding her up as the face of the Republican Party.
I’m just glad that she flopped in CPAC poll and continues to poll badly, thereby making it clear that she is not anywhere close to being the conservative (nor anyone but liberals’) top choice for GOP nominee.
And now she is trying to take credit for Rand Paul’s and Marco Rubio’s successes? How tacky. She puts out these “look how great *I* am” videos, where she claims way more credit than she is entitled. I just wonder where all that money is going.
bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 12:13 AM
You are not gonna get the last word, fishy…and you’ll never live down your blind support for mittens and your disdain for every other candidate.
gracie on March 30, 2013 at 1:05 AM
Please, people. It can’t be all that healthy to handle fish that suffer from ick. You could suffer ill health as a result. That fish’s diseased mind could be contageous, and you wouldn’t want that, would you?
John Hitchcock on March 30, 2013 at 1:12 AM
As I said, it’s personal. It’s why you can’t stop. Her energy, her cheer, her cowboy boots, her t*ts under tight blouses, maybe the total package — it doesn’t matter. No one could go on like this so monotonously without it being personal. You’re the inverted “worshipper.” How many times in this thread have you used the term? It’s pure projection. You worship hating her.
rrpjr on March 30, 2013 at 1:13 AM
bluefox on March 30, 2013 at 1:42 AM
It is personal because I care deeply about my country. The Sarah Palin worship does more harm than good. I will continue to speak my mind about what I think is best for the country.
bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 1:49 AM
Welcome to Disturbia:
That’s only two pages of one thread.
rrpjr on March 30, 2013 at 1:53 AM
oh, please. you spew your contempt to get people’s attention. SP doesn’t have to a say a word and the whole world turns and says “WOW” in unison. you’ve got nothing going for you and you know it…even mittens left you at the altar.
gracie on March 30, 2013 at 1:58 AM
If you don’t like being identified as Palin worshipers, then maybe you shouldn’t worship at the altar of St. Palin the Victimized.
bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 3:45 AM
I hope to ween you people off the Sarah Palin worship. If I can touch just one Palin worshiper and get them to let go of the worship, then I will be happy. Look, you don’t have to stop liking Palin. Heck, I admire Palin. But we need to let go of the Palin obsession. Palin’s place is not as a presidential candidate. It is not as the face of the Republican Party nor as the spokesperson for conservatism. No, she is better for get-out-the-vote efforts. Maybe she can also do her little endorsing thing. And if she retires, that’s great too. But she needs to learn that not everything is about her. She tries to stir up division among conservatives; it’s part of her shtick. She needs to stop that. She also needs to brush up on the issues and get a vocal coach.
bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 3:54 AM
Palin endorsing conservative candidates is bad for the country???
You’re a joke, bluegill.
Aitch748 on March 30, 2013 at 6:05 AM
At least quote me accurately. I said the Palin worship is bad.
bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 6:20 AM
Yeap that is pretty much how I remember it going down and it alerted me at the time that Rubio wasn’t the “tea party conservative” people thought he was. His “consultants” were the GOPE type believing the MSM narrative.
unseen on March 30, 2013 at 6:36 AM
You’re not going to nag us into turning on Palin.
This thing you have about “Palin worship” is just your jealousy over the attention that Palin gets when she shows up and gives a speech. If ever the phrase “you’re just jealous” fit anybody, it fits you like a glove. People get excited when she shows up and says what most of us are thinking and you don’t like it. She doesn’t need to run for office, and we don’t care that she doesn’t have a radio-announcer voice.
Palin is going to be around for years, and as long as she’s “one of us,” what you keep calling “Palin worship” will also be around. You might as well get used to it.
Aitch748 on March 30, 2013 at 6:37 AM
the PDSer’s think her being a kingmaker will raise her clout and standing within voters mind and set her up for a 2016 run. The PDSer’s aim since 2008 is to lower her voice and push her off the stage because their guys can’t compete with her. It’s like how tiger woods made all the other golfers look like amatuers. So if they can’t compete they have to drive her from field.
unseen on March 30, 2013 at 7:03 AM
This is what it boils down down too; a hag being jealous of Palin and anger that St. Mittens the Fantastic didn’t win.
topdawg on March 30, 2013 at 7:46 AM
I don’t know Bluegill’s posts seem to me more about simply repeating keywords over and over. Classic pys-ops.
unseen on March 30, 2013 at 8:09 AM
First off, Palin hasn’t once intimated that she has any interest in running in 2016. She has made it clear that her focus is on 2014.
Second, you seem to ignore the facts as presented in the Shark Tank article. That in itself shows just how dishonest you are.
Third, as a Kentuckian, I can tell you that Palin’s endorsement of Rand Paul was absolutely the vehicle that drove him to victory. To suggest otherwise is either a sign of your ignorance or a sign of your dishonesty. Based on your postings, I suspect it’s the latter.
I DO NOT worship Sarah Palin. I worship but one, my Lord and Savior. I stand with Sarah Palin because she stands with me. I support Sarah Palin because she speaks for me. Maybe that’s too complex for you to understand. For me, she doesn’t have to be perfect. Sometimes, her voice gets a little high-pitched, but her words are music to my ears. Sometimes, she misspeaks, just as everyone does. Sometimes, I wish she could be a little more specific on her position on certain issues, but I can accept that she’ll be more specific when the time is right.
Face it. You’re one sick puppy who is eaten up with PDS. There’s a cure for that, but you may have already reached stage 4, since you have allowed for it to metastasize throughout your very core.
NoNails on March 30, 2013 at 8:11 AM
Excellent video.
Sarah Palin And The GOP Boat-Rockers Alliance
john.frank on March 30, 2013 at 10:10 AM
To your chagrin, she actually is. She’s not the center of Republican politics, but as far as the real conservative political universe, she’s just about right smack dab in the center of it.
NoNails on March 30, 2013 at 10:14 AM
In response to all the attacks by the PDS crowd this week:
Time for a C4P Money Bomb for SarahPAC
john.frank on March 30, 2013 at 10:46 AM
More.
rrpjr on March 30, 2013 at 10:50 AM
You and I are probably a lot alike. Neither one of us has any patience for PDSers. Like you, I admire Palin. Many conservatives do. But is she the person we want as the face of conservatism or the nominee of our party? Um, not us much. She’s a fine person, though, who can do a lot of good, if only she’d stop trying to foster resentment among conservatives.
bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 11:03 AM
Not us much = not so much
bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 11:06 AM
http://thespeechatimeforchoosing.wordpress.com/
unseen on March 30, 2013 at 11:07 AM
I just want to say, I don’t hate you mouf-breathin’ heathenish clown-following, unserious Palin-worshipping idolators. I don’t hate you; I love you, really, I do…I just want you retarded inbred-cretins to:
1) STFU; or
2) See the Light, that was truly the Great Willard Mitt Romney; and profess your error in not fully supporting him.
Unless or until you follow 1) or 2) I shall just pronounce Anathema upon you and cast you from the One True Church of Bluegill Conservatism.
You have been warned.
JFKY on March 30, 2013 at 11:07 AM
unseen on March 30, 2013 at 11:09 AM
The resentment seems to flow from YOU, not us….
JFKY on March 30, 2013 at 11:10 AM
I love you. Couldn’t have said it better myself. I want that whole passage enshrined.
bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 11:10 AM
unseen on March 30, 2013 at 11:10 AM
http://thespeechatimeforchoosing.wordpress.com/
unseen on March 30, 2013 at 11:12 AM
views of this video on youttube now at 272,000
#whatpalindoes for the conservative movement…..paging Tucker the sexist pig.
unseen on March 30, 2013 at 11:16 AM
By all means, “enshrine it” use it as often as you like…as long as you give proper accreditation/citation….
I look forward to your repeated use of my statement/slur…but in the immortal words of Inago Montoya “I don’t think that means what you think it does.“
JFKY on March 30, 2013 at 11:19 AM
I think she missed your invisible /sarc sign.
NoNails on March 30, 2013 at 11:40 AM
No, we are definitely nothing alike. You prove yourself to be a schizoid freak on every Palin-related thread. I want people to judge Palin on reality, not the caricature the left and the GOPe paint of her. Most people who “hate” her would be shocked to know that none of her positions on the issues are extreme. A lot of them would be surprised to learn that she didn’t say she could see Russia from her porch. Some of them would be surprised to learn that the meme,”she couldn’t name a book or newspaper she reads” is a false meme. And some would be surprised to learn that the meme, “She didn’t know the founding fathers” is a lie also(that includes you). Beck asked her who her favorite was. She said all of them because it was a stupid question, but when pressed, she named Washington and explained why. Other than Beck, who sits around and thinks about their favorite founding father? Favorite color? Yeah. Favorite founding father? Silly.
She doesn’t foster resentment among conservatives. She highlights the fact that many of our problems are the result of the incestuous relationships of the Permanent Political Class. That’s a good thing, no matter how you twist it to rationalize your obsession with her.
NoNails on March 30, 2013 at 11:55 AM
I couldn’t care less. I’m a worshipalooza. Who cares.
This is about envy. Palin engenders passion by invoking and evangelizing on subjects what no one else will dare confront.
The natural admiration and passion this stirs is deeply threatening. Beyond that, or beneath it, is the simple, psychotic personal envy of her attributes.
The “worship” mantra is just cheap mini-Leftist wordplay to shame and extinguish the passion she inspires but which others — like Romney and his supporters — can’t beg, buy or steal.
Politics is fun because it’s such a perfect spectrum of human behavior in extremis and out there for all to see.
rrpjr on March 30, 2013 at 12:22 PM
The thing is, you couldn’t have said it better. As in, not having any such option. You ostensibly (and in all likelihood) lack the vocabulary, wit, and conceptual flexibility (the use of ‘Anathema’ was quite clever) to create a post that is even mildly entertaining or challenging.
unseen & john.frank, thanks for the links.
wolfsDad on March 30, 2013 at 12:57 PM
I love how Sarah lives rent free 24/7 in Bluegills mind ….
it is really sad …. JFKY – that was wonderful … love it….
conservative tarheel on March 30, 2013 at 3:55 PM
How well would Sarah Palin as potential 2016 nominee do in a very red state like Alaska? Palin may not be considered a serious candidate, but surely Alaskans want her to run and would vote for her, right? Lets examine the facts:
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2013/02/clinton-potentially-competitive-in-alaska.html
Wow, it looks like Sarah Palin’s viability as a candidate has tanked. Whoever says that Sarah Palin is not and should not be made the face of the Republican Party nor the GOP nominee is right.
Palin worshipers, you need this dose of reality. I know my message is reaching you. It is good that you learn this now so that you don’t continue your Palin-worshiping ways into the 2016 primary season.
bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 6:37 PM
No last word for you Bluegill….PPP tends to be the DEMOCRATIC pollster…in my home state, which went double digits for Romney, Hillary is a potential “winner” too…doesn’t mean she will be.
Say who were the front runners in 2008 at this time, BG?
Besides invective, the only thing you have is fairly meaningless polling data…the CPAC straw poll and the PPP poll from 3.5 years out from the elction…
So you are simply focusing on the elusive “Elect-ability”…Say didn’t that Severely Conservative Mitt Romney have that, too? How’d that go…
So basically you’ve got nothing, but, as was said above, an animus against Palin…I don’t know did your Significant Other call out her name during coitus…do you think you could never rock a T-shirt or hi heels like her?
But in any event, you have nothing SUBSTANTIVE. I understand, if I disagree with Pumice or Honda or Stoic Patriot, about there POTUS choices. But you, you don’t talk about Palin’s ISSUES or where you disagree. You just seemingly HATE her…it’s not even Politics, it’s PERSONAL with you. Tell me where Palin is WRONG, not where she’s clownish…tell me where her positions are unsound, not that she wears tight t-shirts…..UNTIL, you can do that, expect contumely, derision, and scant regard.
JFKY on March 30, 2013 at 6:49 PM
Like many conservatives, we agree with Palin on most issues, but we think she is absolutely the wrong person to promote them as the party’s nominee or as any kind of spokesperson or representative of the Right. Think of it this way: do many Democrats agree with Cynthia McKinney ( http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynthia_McKinney ) on the issues? Probably. Would McKinney do well in a national election? No. Would most Democrats want Cynthia to run for pres, even if they agree with her on many issues? No. Who would want Cynthia to be the Dems’ presidential nominee? Republicans. Sarah Palin is like the Republican Cynthia McKinney in this way.
bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 7:05 PM
What a pity. You try so hard too! “Palin worship” will proceed strong and undeterred. But thanks for doing your job in strengthening it. What you miss — and it’s a beauty of a miss — is that Palin’s meaning and purpose are only confirmed by these kinds of fanatical litanies. In your replication of the Leftist modes, you’re declaring what the threat is. You couldn’t do a better job of reaffirming Palin’s relevance. For you couldn’t possibly keep up the monomania if Palin were as unimportant as you think. Good work.
What you also can’t see, being so afflicted with envy, is that it isn’t really about Palin as much as the message. Palin simply represents a point of view, an insight or incision into the malignant lesion of Establishment GOP corruption, and a voice for an America the Republican party has abandoned, that no one else has had the nerve or will to claim. It is only personal in the sense of communion many feel for the person who lays claim to the message with plainspoken conviction. People, conservatives, understand her grasp not only of the nature of the Left but the inherent virtues of conservatism. So keep flailing away.
rrpjr on March 30, 2013 at 7:15 PM
Here, on this page, it came into focus. The reason the ichthyic one repeats, for instance, ‘worship’ is the inability to come up with a synonym. Similarly, the repeated citation of the CPAC poll and various other bits of monotony are due to a lack of ability to create anything in the way of new material. We may be guilty of picking on someone of distinctly inferior intellectual ability.
My apologies, Hipster. Your cathartic options are obviously limited.
wolfsDad on March 30, 2013 at 7:41 PM
I think the overuse of the word “worship” is by design. It’s an imitation of the Left — the repetitive semantic cudgel. RINOs are a political creature in a strange state of thrall to leftism – sort of like Stockholm Syndrome victims.
rrpjr on March 30, 2013 at 7:49 PM
“We” are you a King/Queen or just listening tot he voices in your head…”No I’m not, Yes, she is. Both of you SHUT-UP!”
JFKY on March 30, 2013 at 7:58 PM
Perhaps, but take for instance, the JFKY bit above. It went completely overhead. When someone responds to an insult by saying “I love you”, there are ample grounds to question the perspicacity of the respondent.
wolfsDad on March 30, 2013 at 8:27 PM
You absolutely could be right. The use of the word just seemed calculatedly repetitive to me.
rrpjr on March 30, 2013 at 8:33 PM
I just don’t know of a more apt word to use in this situation.
In the last year I noticed that the people who were the most critical of Romney after he got the nomination and who should’ve been on our side in promoting unity in the effort to defeat Obama were Palin worshipers. Palin attracts fervent support from the most embarrassing, anti-intellectual, doofus sliver of our party. Palin worshipers are trash, basically.
Why don’t you people fawn over someone like Ted Cruz? At least he an impressive and capable person. That I could respect and understand. This Palin nonsense is a joke. You people are like blind followers and fanatics of Justin Bieber.
You Palin cultists are so wrapped up in this fantasy image of Palin and her personality that you can’t even recognized that she’s crap. There are better conservatives out there!! Ted Cruz. Hint, hint. Ted Cruz. Hint, hint. Do I have to make it more clear? Anyone but Palin! I understand that Cruz says nice things about Palin. He’s no fool and wants support from the likes of you. But at least he is an articulate and effective advocate of conservative ideals. Palin is not. Or Rand Paul. I could see being huge fans of him. He’s another impressive guy. Even Chris Christie, whom I hate, is not a walking cartoonish joke like Palin. The bottom line is that we can do better than Palin. You all should aim a little higher when selecting your heroes.
bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 9:14 PM
BINGO.
ddrintn on March 30, 2013 at 9:16 PM
No, in the last year you noticed that Romney has the charisma of a can of sardines, and then you resent that Palin actually IS charismatic.
ddrintn on March 30, 2013 at 9:18 PM
You’re more obsessed than any “Palin cultist” could possibly be. How many comments have you made in this thread? A hundred or two? You’re batty. If Cruz is all that and an order of fries, it’ll become apparent.
ddrintn on March 30, 2013 at 9:22 PM
By the way, what is that to you? On the one hand, you say that “Palin cultists” make up only a tiny sliver of the electorate. On the other, they must be fairly significant otherwise you wouldn’t be going on like some psycho mom trying to get her son to dump the pretty girl and instead take up with that very nice 450 lb daughter of her friend at the beauty parlor.
ddrintn on March 30, 2013 at 9:26 PM
your hatred of Sarah is personal, meant to be demeaning. You come on this site and try to rape her reputation on an hourly basis.
you have no shame. you have no credibility. its universal. yet you persist.
the moderators should ban you, if only to preserve what sanity is left.
renalin on March 30, 2013 at 9:32 PM
What is already apparent is that Palin isn’t fit to shine Cruz’s shoes. You Palin worshipers know it, so you try to say that Cruz’ success is all thanks to Palin. It’s insulting and laughable.
No one but her worshipers takes Palin seriously anymore. She’s a goofy, gimmicky, cartoonish attention-craver who stumbled badly during the 2008 campaign, quit her job as governor before even finishing one term, and then got fired from Fox News. Now she tries to get attention by picking fights with Karl Rove and claiming credit for successful Republicans like Rubio, when she has no business claiming credit for such things.
I have faith that eventually even people like ddrintn, who reportedly got a tattoo that read “Palin 2012″, will see the light and move on to better choices. And then they will come to me and say, “bluegill, you were right. I’m sorry. Now let’s go win an election.” And I won’t gloat nor say I told you so. I will take your hands and move forward toward electoral victory!
bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 9:36 PM
I believe there has to be counterbalance to the Palin worship. So I provide it as best I can.
bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 9:37 PM
To you. Toi a lot of us, it was always apparent that, for example, Romney was never fit to carry Palin’s jogging shoes.
Not all, but a large measure of it is.
ddrintn on March 30, 2013 at 9:39 PM
She doesn’t have to “try” to get attention, sweetie. She just…gets it. You see, that’s the difference between Palin and all the rest right now.
ddrintn on March 30, 2013 at 9:41 PM
Who “reported” that? I don’t have any tattoos at all.
ddrintn on March 30, 2013 at 9:45 PM
Reaffirming Palin’s threat and relevance on a comment by comment basis.
rrpjr on March 30, 2013 at 9:58 PM
You don’t know of another word to use.
Listen. Then tell me that you can make the case that the fish is actually, intellectually in any way a worthy opponent.
wolfsDad on March 30, 2013 at 10:01 PM
Ddrintn, do these results from a red state like Alaska tell you anything? Quit bringing up Romney. Stick to the subject. It’s not just bluegill who thinks Palin is a joke. This is what in trying to tell you. Let’s be reasonable, ok? We all, I assume, want to defeat Democrats. So let’s start from a place of agreement. Can you honestly say that Palin is our best bet? I know you’re chomping at the bit to bring up Romney, but resist it. Take a deep breath. Palin didn’t work out so well as a national candidate. That’s just a fact. The Palin worship can’t go on forever. Maybe among some it can, but it will continue to be less widespread. Already we have seen a greatly diminished Palin. Welcome this change, ok? That’s all I’m saying.
bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 10:05 PM
Congress has an 8% approval rating. Alaskans have a higher opinion of Congress than the governor by 50/34. This would imply that the ‘cuda’s approval rating is lower than 8%, and yet her personal numbers aren’t mentioned. Is it me or is that an odd omission?
wolfsDad on March 30, 2013 at 10:15 PM
I don’t think you can compare poll numbers like that.
But the point is really that there is very little support for a Palin candidacy… even among Republicans… and even in Alaska! I really think there are more mischief-making liberals, claiming to be Republicans, who are saying they want Palin to run than there are Republicans doing the same.
Palin is the furthest thing from an unknown quantity, and I wouldn’t expect these numbers to change THAT much to the point where Palin would be even close to competitive.
bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 10:22 PM
No, thanks. He’s necessary to bring up because he represents the institutional failure of the GOP to confront the Left which Palin contrasts and challenges. Romneys will keep coming and failing until the paradigm is shattered. Palin is the paradigm shatterer.
You’re making the case for Palin.
Oh, and Romney lost.
rrpjr on March 30, 2013 at 10:23 PM
Three years out and already feeling anxiety about Palin running for President. Doesn’t promise much peace of mind going forward.
rrpjr on March 30, 2013 at 10:25 PM
What does that mean? Take your time. Logic is hard.
They either asked for Hillary’s favorables (47%/45%) while not asking about Sarah’s, or the didn’t publish the response numbers for the governor. Neither is currently in elective office.
wolfsDad on March 30, 2013 at 10:29 PM
I just mean that you can’t apply that kind of precision when comparing different poll numbers that may have been the result of different ways of asking the questions. The larger, takeaway message from these poll results is what is important. But if you refuse to see it, then I just don’t know what to say.
bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 10:52 PM
1) The question about Clinton’s favorables was asked and published. (47%/45%)
2) The question about Congress’ favorables was asked and published. (8%/82%)
3) The question comparing Congress to Palin was asked and published (50%/34%)
The question about the Governor’s favorables was either not asked or simply not published, while even asking whether or not she should run for president.
If you can’t deal with a simple straightforward question (entirely feasible), how can you be relied upon to determine “what is important”?
Btw, “you can’t apply that kind of precision” makes no sense whatsoever.
wolfsDad on March 30, 2013 at 11:15 PM
Okay, I see what you’re saying. To answer your question, I think it is just you grasping at straws. You desperately don’t want to believe that even 8 in 10 Alaska Republicans don’t want Palin to run.
You want to deny the poll because you don’t like what it’s saying.
Wolf, believe it. People there know Palin very well, and even the Republican voters don’t support a potential Palin 2016 run.
bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 11:27 PM
Who else do you support?
bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 11:31 PM
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