Hillary: Hey, I don’t want TSA touching my junk either; Update: TSA backing off?

posted at 5:35 pm on November 21, 2010 by Allahpundit

Via Mediaite, I’ll leave you to supply your own hacky joke about what Bill’s view of “enhanced patdowns” might be. Two interesting elements here, though. First, notwithstanding her leeriness about junk-touching, Hillary ends up defending the policy anyway. She’s in no position to do otherwise given that Napolitano and The One himself support it, but watching one Democratic all-star after another come out publicly in favor of strip-or-grope really brings home what a politicized farce most national security issues are. Had this happened while Bush was in office, their brows would all be exquisitely furrowed while prominent Republicans would be much more equivocal; needless to say, this exchange last night between Huckabee and Whoopi Goldberg would have been very different on both sides. No policy issue is immune from politics, but this one should be a bit more immune, no?

Second, to Hillary’s credit, she does allude to changing the procedures to limit the number of passengers subjected to the touching o’ the junk. We’ve heard that idea floated once before this week in Robert Poole’s piece for Reason calling for a “Trusted Traveler” program, and now here’s former State Department counterterror advisor Thomas McNamara proposing the same thing in today’s LA Times. If you’re trying to find a needle in a haystack, it’s a big help if you can reduce the haystack:

The first is to recognize that the vast majority of passengers are not terrorists. We need to deal with as many of the non-terrorists as possible before they arrive at airport checkpoints. A national, voluntary “trusted passenger” program would do that by advance background checks and biometric identity documents, which could be reviewed, renewed or revoked at any time. Privacy and civil liberties could be protected by strong privacy legislation and oversight by an independent board. Costs could be shared by passengers, airports, airlines and governments.

Although there are a couple of local, commercial programs already in place, they include only a tiny number of passengers. In a truly national program, “trusted” passengers at all airports could move through simplified, expedited check-ins with only occasional random searches.

If, eventually, half of each day’s passengers were to qualify as trusted on domestic flights and a third on international flights, that would be a huge reduction in the size of the haystack. Frequent flyers and airline crews, for example, collectively go through the security routine hundreds of millions of times each year. To what purpose? Imagine what taking even them out of the stack would mean in terms of saving time, money and human resources that could then be focused on the “non-trusted” travelers.

TSA’s director insists that they’re not changing the policy, but if the drip-drip-drip of cell-phone videos of humiliating patdowns being linked by Drudge doesn’t change his mind, it’s likely to change his boss’s. (Videos like this one suggesting a wait-line apocalypse coming on Wednesday will help too.) And if Obama and Napolitano don’t come up with something before year’s end, I’m sure the new Republican House will be happy to hold hearings on this a few months from now to nudge them along. Imagine the scene of angry parents testifying before Congress about their toddlers being strip-searched. Good politics in that case actually could lead to better policy.

Exit question: Er, why are jihadis bothering with airlines anyway when they’d have a better shot at getting past security on Amtrak? Frankly, they’re a lot better at blowing up trains than they are airplanes.

Update: That was fast. This morning, TSA chief John Pistole said he sympathized with passengers’ discomfort but that the procedures won’t be changing. A few hours and presumably a few tense phone calls from his superiors later, we get this:

Heeding a sudden furor, John Pistole, administrator of the Transportation Security Administration, said in a Sunday afternoon statement to POLITICO that airport screening procedures “will be adapted as conditions warrant,” in an effort to make them “as minimally invasive as possible, while still providing the security that the American people want and deserve.”…

“We welcome feedback and comments on the screening procedures from the traveling public, and we will work to make them as minimally invasive as possible, while still providing the security that the American people want and deserve. We are constantly evaluating and adapting our security measures, and as we have said from the beginning, we are seeking to strike the right balance between privacy and security.

“In all such security programs, especially those that are applied nationwide, there is a continual process of refinement and adjustment to ensure that best practices are applied and that feedback and comment from the traveling public is taken into account. This has always been viewed as an evolving program that will be adapted as conditions warrant, and we greatly appreciate the cooperation and understanding of the American people.

I wonder who ordered him to have a change of heart. Napolitano or Obama?


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Everyone who hasn’t left left/entered the country since 9/11 should be issued passcards for the frisk ‘n’ sniff TSA.

disa on November 21, 2010 at 7:23 PM

Worst. Administration. Ever.

scalleywag on November 21, 2010 at 7:28 PM

O/T in a huge way

Allahpundit did you see this?

http://purinaanimalallstars.yahoo.com/?v=8571610&l=100000085

Cindy Munford on November 21, 2010 at 7:30 PM

Hillary: Hey, I don’t want TSA touching my junk either; Update: TSA backing off?

Too easy; I’m not going to go for the obvious laugh-line.

Good luck with your junk, Hill.

hillbillyjim on November 21, 2010 at 7:36 PM

There already is a commercially-operated trusted traveler program. I was a member for a year or so before they went out of business. They’re back in (very limited) operation now, but they promise to expand to additional airports.

I fly around 100,000 miles a year on business and as McNamara notes in the LA Times piece, we’re not the droids the TSA is looking for.

flipflop on November 21, 2010 at 7:37 PM

No dice Shrill !

If I have to have my winky felt up , so should yours be as well!

cableguy615 on November 21, 2010 at 7:38 PM

I should point out that the Clear program I mentioned doesn’t exempt a member if the TSA decides they want to touch your junk. You just jump to the head of the line to get your junk touched.

flipflop on November 21, 2010 at 7:43 PM

Appears TSA employees trying to sniff-out Timothy McVeigh types, (probably using white children– in the memo, of course; why else would they stoop so low) with a gusto. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the only souls who’ve even attempted and then succeeded on the grandest of scales, are these mumble, mumble, Middle-Easterners.

betsyz on November 21, 2010 at 7:50 PM

Cindy Munford on November 21, 2010 at 7:30 PM

Awww, kittens and rental goats…
nice

OmahaConservative on November 21, 2010 at 7:54 PM

Road trips are looking better and better. Until they manage to muck that up with check stops.

scalleywag on November 21, 2010 at 7:12 PM

Or vehicles that can’t go more than 100 miles before needing a multi-hour recharge.

steveegg on November 21, 2010 at 7:54 PM

BTW, glad to see that Bishop is back…saw him on one thread today….thought he’d gone the HighHopes route?????…..We get scared.

betsyz on November 21, 2010 at 7:55 PM

The silence of the National Organization of Women is deafening, given their usual strident noises about sexual harassment and abuse. The fact that TSA agents are feeling up women’s skirts hasn’t registered.

Dhuka on November 21, 2010 at 7:57 PM

Hillary just threw her hat into the ring.

Slowburn on November 21, 2010 at 7:57 PM

O/T in a huge way

Allahpundit did you see this?

http://purinaanimalallstars.yahoo.com/?v=8571610&l=100000085

Cindy Munford on November 21, 2010 at 7:30 PM

I do believe he did (Ah-choo! Blanking allergies.)

steveegg on November 21, 2010 at 7:57 PM

Allahpundit did you see this?

Cindy Munford on November 21, 2010 at 7:30 PM

Not even AP is that Beta… is he?

Diogenes of Sinope on November 21, 2010 at 7:57 PM

Am I the only woman who wants American men to stand up and say “No more”?

I want men to say, “No, you’re not going to touch my wife. No, you’re not going to touch my kids.”

I find it demoralizing to watch men quietly acquiesce to these male-on-male groping. Or wife groping. Or child groping.

We’re Americans, for pete’s sake. Where have all the cowboys gone?

Grace_is_sufficient on November 21, 2010 at 8:03 PM

Wait until the first video of a 14 year old girl getting felt up in the security line and she starts freaking out, all bets are off. Or the first Dad who tells the TSA person that if they touch his daughter it’s lights out.

Man, what a frackin’ mess they’ve made of this system.

Bishop on November 21, 2010 at 8:04 PM

Brings on nostalgia for HighHopes. Always felt, somehow, validated about my, from the get-go, feelings about Obama, when she would start off the day with “that dirty, rotten rat-bastard in the White House”….sort of like the line…”I love the smell of Napalm in the morning” (not that I have an inkling what the smell is like), but I get the gist of the sentiment.

betsyz on November 21, 2010 at 8:10 PM

Exit question: Er, why are jihadis bothering with airlines anyway when they’d have a better shot at getting past security on Amtrak? Frankly, they’re a lot better at blowing up trains than they are airplanes.

From what I’ve read, a Jihadi would have an easy time getting a job (or pretending to have a job) in baggage or cargo handling, airline service (food, fuel, etc.), or even TSA screening…where they would have ample opportunity to do serious damage. Why would they even bother with the hassle passengers have to go through?

The TSA has succeeded in coming up with a Draconian solution which targets innocent passengers and yesterday’s attack modes, yet ignores obvious current security threats.

We’d all be much safer if the airlines totally handled their own security…WITHOUT federal rules and procedures…free to use their own methods to maximize their own passengers’ safety and comfort…as well as preserve their own livelihood.

The TSA is wrongly chartered, stupidly operated, and grossly ineffective…except at wasting money, abusing citizens, and enabling a nationwide outbreak of theft of airline passenger property.

We don’t need the TSA: DISBAND IT!!!

landlines on November 21, 2010 at 8:18 PM

We’re Americans, for pete’s sake. Where have all the cowboys gone?

Grace_is_sufficient on November 21, 2010 at 8:03 PM

I ain’t acquiescing Grace, I am here to kick some ass.
Blessings!

OmahaConservative on November 21, 2010 at 8:20 PM

John Pistole, TSA Administrator, can say whatever he wants for affect. What’s said and what’s done are not the same.

The full body screening filed and full body groping by TSA is absolutely treading down human and citizen rights as well as personal dignity.

This abuse by the government matters, providing a massively emotional focus on TSA groping good people while never addressing for instance security checks of PASSPORTS of incoming passengers from foreign ports, still an FBI/CIA/DHS/TSA procedural failing.

And while Obama keeps America enraged with TSA, note well that this effects a massive distraction from his political opponents, keeping TSA groping the focus while START, Amnesty for illegal aliens, etc. are being arranged behind closed doors as is Obama’s manner

maverick muse on November 21, 2010 at 8:26 PM

Given DHS and TSA, no thanks for the federal abuse of power, birthing federal authoritarian bureaucracies, GWB.

maverick muse on November 21, 2010 at 8:29 PM

Wouldn’t the “trusted traveler” program be a bit of reverse profiling? I’m guessing (or at least praying) that the guy with lengthy visits to Pakistan or Yemen isn’t getting on this list.

BuzzCrutcher on November 21, 2010 at 5:55 PM

Wasn’t that young fellow attached to some ME embassy busted for lighting matches in his plane’s bathroom within the last year or so?

How carefully are baggage handlers vetted? To me, this is one of the weakest links in airport security.

onlineanalyst on November 21, 2010 at 8:31 PM

Surely you have all seen Napolitano’s assurances re the screening?
http://www.thepeoplescube.com/current-truth/janet-napolitano-unveils-new-tsa-public-relations-campaign-t6420.html

And while Obama keeps America enraged with TSA, note well that this effects a massive distraction from his political opponents, keeping TSA groping the focus while START, Amnesty for illegal aliens, etc. are being arranged behind closed doors as is Obama’s manner

maverick muse on November 21, 2010 at 8:26 PM

Actually, I agree with you. I wish more threads were devoted to the START treaty and the DREAM act because people are largely unaware of the machinations of the lame duck Congress.

onlineanalyst on November 21, 2010 at 8:37 PM

Wait until the first video of a 14 year old girl getting felt up in the security line and she starts freaking out, all bets are off. Or the first Dad who tells the TSA person that if they touch his daughter it’s lights out.

Man, what a frackin’ mess they’ve made of this system.

Bishop on November 21, 2010 at 8:04 PM

I would havbe thought the child going through this would have set people off. After that, the Nun, right? Then there was the lady who said they actually pulled her top down exposing her to the public. Now they say if you refuse both the scanner and the pat down you cannot leave, WTF! Seriously, I think Grace said it above nicely, when do we stand up and say no!

bluemarlin on November 21, 2010 at 8:42 PM

Check out Gateway Pundit’s most recent post on the subject.

A whole bunch of people at HSA and TSA should be looking for jobs by Thanksgiving, including Nappy and John Pistole. These people are a pox on the country.

And I’d like to see Congress investigate the sweet deal making Cherthoff weaseled from HSA.

Dusty on November 21, 2010 at 6:35 PM

Wait a second, in the ‘this has happened before’ link there I see Gloria was representing someone complaining about the TSAs proceedures. That was 08 when Bush was still in charge. Now that Obama is in charge? NOTHING!

SHILL!

clement on November 21, 2010 at 8:46 PM

Actually, I agree with you. I wish more threads were devoted to the START treaty and the DREAM act because people are largely unaware of the machinations of the lame duck Congress.

onlineanalyst on November 21, 2010 at 8:37 PM

I agree, how many GOP idiots have said they may vote for it? To ratify a treaty it takes 2/3 correct? Where does Kirk stand onm this and what is the latest with him being seated?

bluemarlin on November 21, 2010 at 8:46 PM

maverick muse on November 21, 2010 at 8:26 PM
====================
Actually, I agree with you. I wish more threads were devoted to the START treaty and the DREAM act because people are largely unaware of the machinations of the lame duck Congress.

onlineanalyst on November 21, 2010 at 8:37 PM

onlineanalyst:I’m beginning to think,this TSA Clusterfark,
is a distraction,to take the focus off the two
items you have mentioned,START/DREAM ACT!!:)

canopfor on November 21, 2010 at 8:46 PM

The silence of the National Organization of Women is deafening, given their usual strident noises about sexual harassment and abuse. The fact that TSA agents are feeling up women’s skirts hasn’t registered.

Dhuka on November 21, 2010 at 7:57 PM

Oh, they’ll probably say it’s about time women feel comfortable with public female-on-female groping. That’s not sexual harassment, after all. It’s just freedom of expression.

/gross

Grace_is_sufficient on November 21, 2010 at 8:53 PM

We’re Americans, for pete’s sake. Where have all the cowboys gone?

Grace_is_sufficient on November 21, 2010 at 8:03 PM

Jail?

FloatingRock on November 21, 2010 at 9:01 PM

Sorry, couldn’t resist. I’m not anti-cowboy or anything.

FloatingRock on November 21, 2010 at 9:02 PM

We’re Americans, for pete’s sake. Where have all the cowboys gone?

Grace_is_sufficient on November 21, 2010 at 8:03 PM
Jail?

FloatingRock on November 21, 2010 at 9:01 PM

Not all of them!

bluemarlin on November 21, 2010 at 9:03 PM

Oh, they’ll probably say it’s about time women feel comfortable with public female-on-female groping. That’s not sexual harassment, after all. It’s just freedom of expression.

/gross

Grace_is_sufficient on November 21, 2010 at 8:53 PM

Gloria and Whoopee being OK with groping reminds me of the “if you’re being raped lie back and enjoy it” kind of b.s. that feminists used to become enraged by. Nowadays – meh. Nothing.

disa on November 21, 2010 at 9:09 PM

It’s a sad day when Shrillary sounds more reasonable, more knowledgeable, more statesmanlike than the ding-a-lings in charge nowadays. Sad, sad, sad.

petefrt on November 21, 2010 at 9:13 PM

Where have all the cowboys gone?

Grace_is_sufficient on November 21, 2010 at 8:03 PM

They had to find other means of employment when the massive cattle drives were made obsolete by the railroads; not a few settled down and became farmers.

There’s a few left, though. I had the pleasure of riding with a handful on a (very short) cattle drive at my aunt’s farm. There was at least one bet going that I’d fall out of the saddle, but it wasn’t collected on! ;)

Dark-Star on November 21, 2010 at 9:16 PM

Maybe the pat downs are setting up American women for the quality of mammograms that they will experience under ObaMaoCare.

onlineanalyst on November 21, 2010 at 9:28 PM

I doubt the TSA will really back off, but anyway, that’s not enough. They still have a few days left to muster the best profiling regime possible to detect actual terrorists. If they don’t do that and a terrorist slips by, they will be indirectly responsible. The terrorist slipping past will be a consequence of their failure.

Times a’wasting, TSA. I recommend soliciting the advice of Israel, whom I’m sure would be willing to lend us some expertise.

FloatingRock on November 21, 2010 at 9:39 PM

Twitter is atweet with the press pool at the back of AF-1 reporting that ObaMao was “joking” that he would be returning home via a stop off to visit Chavez. (I thought that they had a hot line dedicated to each other already.)

onlineanalyst on November 21, 2010 at 9:48 PM

What gets me is that liberals think that when the federal govt listens in on suspicious phone calls from here to overseas, then we have all lost our civil liberties. BUT… when the TSA is looking at nude scans of everyone flying and fondling people’s privates, well that’s fine. If you don’t like it, don’t fly.

Did anyone ever say that if you don’t like the patriot act, don’t use the phone?

jeffn21 on November 21, 2010 at 9:57 PM

One more layer of stink about this entire mess – Mr. Deepak Chopra is the CEO of OSI Systems. OSI is the parent company of Rapiscan, maker of the naked scanner. Deepak attended Obama’s first state dinner. I wonder how many other times Deepak and Barack have chatted. I wonder what they’ve chatted about. I wonder why I just do not trust this TSA, 4th Amendment violating, sexual assaulting, naked-radioactive-screening MESS!

redwhiteblue on November 21, 2010 at 10:06 PM

redwhiteblue on November 21, 2010 at 10:06 PM

Maybe we’ll get some accountability in the next congress—but maybe not. Chertoff was a Bush appointee, I believe, and he’s wrapped up in this too. This scandal could be bipartisan so we may never know how deep it goes.

FloatingRock on November 21, 2010 at 10:14 PM

It’s probably been noted already…but the naked scanners are all being funded by the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. Yep, shovel ready! Crap.

redwhiteblue on November 21, 2010 at 10:14 PM

That’s not sexual harassment

Once they touch you, it’s sexual “ASSAULT” not harassment, which is a criminal offense requiring cops, handcuffs, and prison.

If TSA workers had the guts to stand up for what’s right, they would refuse to assault people.

Common Sense on November 21, 2010 at 10:18 PM

FloatingRock on November 21, 2010 at 10:14 PM

These monsters are messing with the safety of my children! I don’t give a rat’s behind if they use an R or a D – I just want them to knock it off immediately. I hope you are right about the next Congress…they had better bring TRUTH and bring it FAST!

redwhiteblue on November 21, 2010 at 10:26 PM

Where have all the cowboys gone?

Grace_is_sufficient on November 21, 2010 at 8:03 PM

Here

sloopy on November 21, 2010 at 10:56 PM

I wonder who ordered him to have a change of heart. Napolitano or Obama?

BILL CLINTON. JUNK TOUCHING IS A BIG BIG NO TO BILL.

YOU KNOW, BILL’S JUNK IS A BIT LITTLE TWEENY WEANNIE MINIE MOE.

TOUCHING BILL’S JUNK IS RESERVED ONLY FOR THE LEWINSKY TYPES.

TheAlamos on November 21, 2010 at 10:56 PM

steveegg on November 21, 2010 at 7:57 PM

LOL!!!!

Cindy Munford on November 21, 2010 at 11:01 PM

One more layer of stink about this entire mess – Mr. Deepak Chopra is the CEO of OSI Systems. OSI is the parent company of Rapiscan, maker of the naked scanner. Deepak attended Obama’s first state dinner. I wonder how many other times Deepak and Barack have chatted. I wonder what they’ve chatted about. I wonder why I just do not trust this TSA, 4th Amendment violating, sexual assaulting, naked-radioactive-screening MESS!
redwhiteblue on November 21, 2010 at 10:06 PM

Yep. And he is not the only one. Deepak is joined by no less a figure than the former Secretary of Homeland Security. See http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/31/AR2009123102821.html (Rae mentioned posting this story back when it was first reported but I just came across it this past week, and only then because there was a YouTube link about it on the Drudge Report.)

And from recent Washington Examiner piece(http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2010/11/bush-s-homeland-security-secretary-flacking-nudie-scanners-too):

The companies that make the airport nudie-scanners have high-priced lobbying teams that include former congressmen, top Capitol Hill staff, and former TSA brass, as I reported in my column yesterday.

But because I focused [sic] on registered lobbyists, I left out the highest-profile revolving-door character in the pay of the nudie-scanner industry: George W. Bush’s Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff. After the undie-bomber attempt on Christmas 2009, Chertoff went on a media tour promoting the use of these scanners, without disclosing that he was getting paid by Rapiscan, one of the two companies currently contracted by TSA to take a nude picture of you at the airport.

That is an outrage. Why is this legal? Since their consciences fail to constrain them, there should be a law forbidding former government employees and elected officials from enriching themselves off the policies they help to institutionalize and impose upon us.

Not only should we demand that every member of the three branches of government submit to both the naked scanners and the pat-downs (on C-Span no less) but we should also demand that they disclose any financial interests they or members of their families have in the “security theatre” on display.

Threshing Flora on November 21, 2010 at 11:41 PM

One more layer of stink about this entire mess – Mr. Deepak Chopra is the CEO of OSI Systems. OSI is the parent company of Rapiscan, maker of the naked scanner. Deepak attended Obama’s first state dinner. I wonder how many other times Deepak and Barack have chatted. I wonder what they’ve chatted about. I wonder why I just do not trust this TSA, 4th Amendment violating, sexual assaulting, naked-radioactive-screening MESS!

redwhiteblue on November 21, 2010 at 10:06 PM

Yeah, Deepak and the Bamster, there’s a mind melding of lefty moonbat geniuses. Jeeze, what next, Carrot-Top setting foreign policy for us?

slickwillie2001 on November 21, 2010 at 11:42 PM

Maybe we’ll get some accountability in the next congress—but maybe not. Chertoff was a Bush appointee, I believe, and he’s wrapped up in this too. This scandal could be bipartisan so we may never know how deep it goes.
FloatingRock on November 21, 2010 at 10:14 PM

Heh, sorry, FloatingRock for being an echo. (And a long-winded echo at that.) I did not see your post before I responded along those same lines about Mr. Chertoff.

Threshing Flora on November 22, 2010 at 12:56 AM

Hillary certainly has a lot of junk.

Bevan on November 22, 2010 at 8:21 AM

A trusted traveler means no touching of junk for me, only for thee. Why didn’t Huckleberry question Whoopie’s comments about little Muslim kids being beaten up as the reason for her departure from BOR’s presence on the View after he made his comments. What a pair those two made and why have her on and give her any credibility.

Kissmygrits on November 22, 2010 at 9:13 AM

Am I allowed to say I don’t wanna touch Hillary evah?

Birdseye on November 22, 2010 at 9:28 AM

I am so sick and tired of all the political correctness in this country I want to hurl. Just profile these bastards that want to kill Americans. Israel does it and they are probably the safest place in the world to fly out of and even without the feel up. It is insane that my 80 year old mother would have to go through something like that just to satisfy a terrorist, dictator, muslim loving president.

jistincase on November 22, 2010 at 9:46 AM

Anyone who hasn’t seen this video at ProteinWisdom needs to.

I really thought I was done being shocked by these fascist thugs. Then I saw this video:

http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=23005#more-23005

Professor Blather on November 22, 2010 at 10:23 AM

How the Drug War Spawned the TSA:

http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2010/11/for-children.html

They are both looking for contraband and you looked the other way when they did it to dopers. Well friends and neighbors. We are all dopers now.

Precedent on how to deal with contraband has been set. It is now going to be applied to everyone.

MSimon on November 22, 2010 at 11:58 AM

I think Hillary was showing what everyone says Obama lacks, and that’s empathy. Of course, we all hate it.

And then she spun it quite nicely for the TSA idiots and for Obama.

AnninCA on November 22, 2010 at 12:21 PM

Ugh. I don’t want to think about Hillary’s junk.

RandyChandler on November 22, 2010 at 1:06 PM

Pistole is another dirt wad. He has about 2 months before he gets to explain his stupidity in front of House hearings. If weather is good, we are still may times safer flying than driving for Thanksgiving.
This power grab will be Obama’s next waterloo after Obamascare.

seven on November 22, 2010 at 3:35 PM

Well, perhaps they realized that the public expects/demands that the government and military are to see that we don’t need to worry about these types of atrocities in our day-to-day lives. That this is their “Job 1″ and far more important than any other function of government. No different than removing mad dogs and other animals with rabies from our environment.

aritai on November 22, 2010 at 4:23 PM

redwhiteblue: File a Freedom of Information request for TheOne’s diary entries relating to meetings with Chopra. That info is public.

rgn on November 22, 2010 at 10:35 PM

…a wait-line apocalypse coming on Wednesday

Surprise! I’m here on Tuesday! And btw… when it’s time to roll, I don’t just put on a show, I go out and win. See Romans 12:21 for more on that. Well, thank you for joining me today. I really enjoyed our time together it was so much fun, la†er.

apacalyps on November 23, 2010 at 4:36 PM

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