Pilot to Hannity: The TSA wanted to see my penis

posted at 8:45 am on November 18, 2010 by The Right Scoop

Yeah, he really said that, which caught Hannity completely off guard. What he was really talking about was going through the airport scanners. Michael Roberts, a pilot who is now suing Homeland Security decided to forgo the airport scanners and the fully body ‘love pats’ and took the third option of going home, which is where he’s been every since. He says that he’s always gone through the metal detector, but this is going way too far.

A point that Hannity made which I find interesting is that the logic fails on scanning and searching pilots because they can ultimately crash the plane anyway. There’s no procedure in the world that can prevent that and it just shows how ludicrous these measures have become. Last night on the O’Reilly Factor, Ann Coulter asked if body cavity searches would be next, considering that terrorists have already used this method to conceal explosives.

What we really need to do is to take a page out of Israel’s playbook and begin doing background checks on airline passengers and putting people on the ground in the airports that are specifically trained to interview suspicious passengers. These methods are much less invasive, and highly effective according to the former Security Chief of El Al airlines.

I’ll be glad when we get some common sense in Washington. This is really getting pathetic.

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Too far. How about too much information.

swamp_yankee on November 18, 2010 at 8:49 AM

I wonder if this means Iowahawk will be doing another song parody, this one in the style of Glen Campbell and called, “By the Time They See My Penis.”

apostic on November 18, 2010 at 8:51 AM

Islamists and the rest of the world are laughing their tails off right now.

Mention Israeli security and they stop laughing.

darwin on November 18, 2010 at 8:53 AM

I’ll be glad when we get some common sense in Washington. This is really getting pathetic.

Common sense is matter and Washington is anti-matter. The two never will mix successfully. And in the case of an accidental mixture the universe will end.

NotCoach on November 18, 2010 at 8:53 AM

Introducing the American Traveler Dignity Act

Vid from the House Floor – Enough is Enough!

Rae on November 18, 2010 at 8:54 AM

I really hate being paranoid. The options are 1) the government really is this stupid and can’t be more creative in screening (a distinct possibility, given the lack of competition), 2) they just don’t care ( distinct possibility, given the lack of competition), 3) they know better but are so afraid of “profiling” and lawsuits that they have to go the full monty, or 4) they want to be so offensive and intrusive that when they pull their real option out, that people will jump at being, say, micro-chipped (or whatever the fascists want) as the good option.

Remember when the joke was that soon we would have to fly naked? Now it’s reality.

rbj on November 18, 2010 at 8:56 AM

A point that Hannity made which I find interesting is that the logic fails on scanning and searching pilots because they can ultimately crash the plane anyway.

They can also be used to bring weapons past security intended for another plane. Screening pilots for bombs might not be critical, though having pilots pee in a cup periodically could be another occasion where pilots have to drop trou as part of their job.

dedalus on November 18, 2010 at 8:57 AM

I say that the TSA should check those who pay cash for their ticket, board an int’l flight with no luggage, fly to Michigan without a coat (in December) and whose father warned the State Dept of a potential threat. By all means search this guy. But really, leave my junk alone, it is hard enough to take off my shoes.

kringeesmom on November 18, 2010 at 9:01 AM

TSA -Touching Sensative Areas.

jon1979 on November 18, 2010 at 9:03 AM

TSA -Touching Sensative Areas.

Transacting Sexual Assault

Beaglemom on November 18, 2010 at 9:04 AM

Crash TSA with litigation. Contract airline security to El Al.

petefrt on November 18, 2010 at 9:04 AM

I agree with the pilot but he said he thinks it should be “intelligence based”. Well for all we know it IS. Maybe the CIA uncovered another panty-bomber case? If one of these guys blew a plane out of the sky the public would be in an uproar about it “How did you let this happen when you could’ve used body scanning technology!”

The Israelis got it goin’ on, but how do we implement their system here? Israel is the size of Delaware. Imagine TSA interviewing every passenger! You’d have to show up 4 hours before departure time. Ooooooooorrr … they could (dare I say it?) … PROFILE!

Tony737 on November 18, 2010 at 9:05 AM

Once again, we see a government agency created for a good cause, but then growing into a monster sucking the freedom and liberty into a vacuum sent from hell. Federal agencies always grow into a monster and wind up working against a free people who ironically are paying for such a monster.

Federal agencies always fail; private companies always produce.

Keemo on November 18, 2010 at 9:07 AM

Tony737 on November 18, 2010 at 9:05 AM

The new sexual molestation policy has been in the pipe ever since the failed attack last Christmas.

NotCoach on November 18, 2010 at 9:07 AM

Go with a private security firm like an airport in Fla.

ohiobabe on November 18, 2010 at 9:07 AM

What part of the 4th Amendment does DHS think it has the right to suspend?

This is like a trial balloon how far can we go until the public revolts? And by revolts I mean it effectively kills the air line industry?

If the Pilots all got together and refused to fly wouldn’t that ground the Air Line industry?

Isn’t it past time to push back against the incompetent bureaucrats?

We had a friend down in San Antonio, he retired from the Army an E-8, he was a body builder, he competed. When he applied for a TSA job, they told him he was over qualified.

To re-cap an applicant in good shape with military training was turned down for a screening job in lieu of what ? What is the low level requirement to become a TSA screener? I have noticed how many of the screeners are overweight is that a requirement?

Dr Evil on November 18, 2010 at 9:08 AM

the erosion of dignity continues unabated

ted c on November 18, 2010 at 9:09 AM

TSA should check those who … fly to Michigan without a coat (in December) – Kring

Hahaha awesome. How could any self-respecting jihadi wear a coat on a suicide mission … it’s REALLY HOT where they’re going!

… it is hard enough to take off my shoes.

Oh c’mon now.

Tony737 on November 18, 2010 at 9:10 AM

This is what you get when you let the ‘Department of Motor Vehicles’ take over airline security. Instead of letting the airlines handle their own security we get stupid policies enforced by high school dropouts.

What makes anyone think that the Government can do anything efficiently?

Uniblogger on November 18, 2010 at 9:10 AM

Next time I fly I’m wearing a burka and I’ll say in a deep gravely voice, “If you touch my junk I’ll have you arrested.”

shick on November 18, 2010 at 9:12 AM

having pilots pee in a cup periodically could be another occasion where pilots have to drop trou as part of their job.

dedalus on November 18, 2010 at 8:57 AM

In front of people?

FAIL.

fossten on November 18, 2010 at 9:12 AM

TSA — Totally Senseless Abuse.

DaydreamBeliever on November 18, 2010 at 9:15 AM

What is the low level requirement to become a TSA screener? – Dr. Evil

Before TSA came along, the screeners were even WORSE (if you can believe it!). Because of my job at the airline, I had to work with them after 9/11, there is a list of items that are ”permitted” and another list of items that are ”prohibited” … one of them asked me “Which one means which?” WTF? Well let’s see, this one has a picture of a BOMB, and this one has a picture of a nail file, you tell me which one means which, Einstein.” They used to get these people from the “Work-Fare” roster.

Tony737 on November 18, 2010 at 9:16 AM

Whenever I hear some hapless citizen in a news clip mouth some variation of the annoying talking-point, “If that’s the price we have to pay…” I realize that for some The Home of The Brave translates into being brave enough to put up with any degradation imposed by one’s government in the name of safety and security.

Drained Brain on November 18, 2010 at 9:16 AM

I think I saw where Claire McAskill said “that poeple would be jumping up and down had TSA not implemented safety measure to prevent the underwear bomber from being successful”

huh?

Was he NOT ON THE PLANE?

these jokes are clueless as to what to do …reacting after is just an opening for another ideal we cant fathom…

cmarceron on November 18, 2010 at 9:23 AM

I’m still waiting for someone to point out where TSA has successfully stopped one terrorist from boarding a plane. This incredibly intrusive set of procedures is in my mind window dressing, and nothing more. In the name of political correctness, we are inconveniencing hundreds of thousands of travellers and pilots, instead of profiling to keep a much smaller known pool of potential terrorists out.

If I was in charge of frostbite prevention in Hawaii, I would have a pretty good track record.

Vashta.Nerada on November 18, 2010 at 9:23 AM

TSA – “Don’t hand me no lines and keep your hands to yourself” – Georgia Satellites

Tony737 on November 18, 2010 at 9:25 AM

Did Barney Frank write this portion of the TSA regulations?

Good news:

Flew from Boston to DC on Tuesday. A TSA agent was engaging people in conversation about their travel plans, what airline they were flying, what flight number, when it took off. It most definitely reminded me of what I understand the Israelis do when they profile.

turfmann on November 18, 2010 at 9:26 AM

Every pervert in the world must be trying to get a job with the TSA now.

LODGE4 on November 18, 2010 at 9:27 AM

What we really need to do is to take a page out of Israel’s playbook and begin doing background checks on airline passengers and putting people on the ground in the airports that are specifically trained to interview suspicious passengers.


I’m not sure that is really feasible here. Israel has one major airport that handles about 50 flights/day. The U.S. has about 600 major airports that handle about 30,000 commercial flights/day. At some point we have accept some level of risk that a bad guy might get on a plane and do bad things or we end up as a pseudo-police state. There is no such thing as perfect security.

rcpjr on November 18, 2010 at 9:30 AM

Really, I’m not sure why this pilot was told to go through the scanner, he said he was commuting, but most Air Crew commuters travel in uniform so they don’t have to do this crap. Was he flying in civilian clothes? He didn’t say. Everytime I go through security, I go through the metal detector because I’m in uniform. I don’t even have to take my sneaks off (shoes yes, but sneakers, no) because we’ve all been through the background checks.

Tony737 on November 18, 2010 at 9:31 AM

Pathetic indeed, PROFILE…

cmsinaz on November 18, 2010 at 9:32 AM

A TSA agent was engaging people in conversation about their travel plans … – Turf

Yes, that’s what we need, somebody asking simple questions and looking for body language, avoiding eye contact, sweating, etc. Remember the New Years Eve bomber that got caught by a boarder guard? She noticed how nervous he was and that was all she needed.

Tony737 on November 18, 2010 at 9:35 AM

Last night on the O’Reilly Factor, Ann Coulter asked if body cavity searches would be next, considering that terrorists have already used this method to conceal explosives.

Unless someone knows of a different case, I’m guessing that this is referring to the Saudi prince a$$assination attempt. As reported by Jake Tapper, the actual technique used was a PETN underwear bomb, like the one tried by the Detroit Xmas bomber.

No doubt the anal cavity approach will be tried sooner or later though.

Also, what happens the first time a scanner image of an 11 year old girl leaks out? Is that child porn? Is there a separate scanner for sex appropriate TSA viewing of each passenger?

This whole idea is FUBAR.

GnuBreed on November 18, 2010 at 9:36 AM

Is the real goal of the Obama administration to destroy the airline industry? Must be…

Keemo on November 18, 2010 at 9:36 AM

What I want to know, is when was Larry Platt put in charge of airline security

Pants on the ground

rbj on November 18, 2010 at 9:38 AM

Is the real goal of the Obama administration to destroy the airline industry? Must be…

Keemo on November 18, 2010 at 9:36 AM

I don’t think they want to destroy it, just to nationalize it.

Vashta.Nerada on November 18, 2010 at 9:39 AM

Bomb sniffing dogs (or pigs!), air marshals, background checks, and behavioral profiling.

Those sickos that were using explosives disguised as baby formula wouldn’t have been caught by scanners or enhanced patdowns either.

bitsy on November 18, 2010 at 9:39 AM

Profile, profile, profile.

search4truth on November 18, 2010 at 9:39 AM

1. Defund (if receiving any), put on terrorist list and prosecute CAIR.
2. Start PROFILING at the Airports for domestic flights for those of foreign extraction from countries KNOWN to export terrorism and are our enemies.
3. Send all TSA agents to El Al for training in how to spot a REAL terrorist.
4. Worry less about the feelings of our sworn enemies and their enablers and more about the U.S.

jcw46 on November 18, 2010 at 9:40 AM

You do realize this is the second part of forcing us to 19th-century transportation (i.e. Amtrak).

steveegg on November 18, 2010 at 9:40 AM

Good news:

Flew from Boston to DC on Tuesday. A TSA agent was engaging people in conversation about their travel plans, what airline they were flying, what flight number, when it took off. It most definitely reminded me of what I understand the Israelis do when they profile.

turfmann on November 18, 2010 at 9:26 AM

Maybe the agent was just trying a little foreplay before he did the deed….

SPCOlympics on November 18, 2010 at 9:41 AM

Tony737 on November 18, 2010 at 9:16 AM

I feel for you man…if you sue, file a complaint etc., keep us informed. I want you healthy, happy and in one piece.

ProudPalinFan on November 18, 2010 at 9:43 AM

Bomb sniffing dogs (or pigs!) – Bitsy

Great idea! AND every passenger has to PET the pig on the head and say “Gooooood piggie! I love bacon! And muhammed was a child molestor!” If they refuse to touch the pig, they don’t fly. (Jews don’t eat pork, but can they touch a live pig?)

Tony737 on November 18, 2010 at 9:43 AM

Thank you Palin Fan! :-)

Tony737 on November 18, 2010 at 9:44 AM

Next time I fly I’m wearing a burka and I’ll say in a deep gravely voice, “If you touch my junk I’ll have you arrested.”

shick on November 18, 2010 at 9:12 AM

I do have a hijab that I bought when I was living in Israel; I’m kind of curious to see what would happen if I wore it for my flight next week.

tikvah on November 18, 2010 at 9:45 AM

What we really need to do is to take a page out of Israel’s playbook and begin doing background checks on airline passengers and putting people on the ground in the airports that are specifically trained to interview suspicious passengers.


I’m not sure that is really feasible here. Israel has one major airport that handles about 50 flights/day. The U.S. has about 600 major airports that handle about 30,000 commercial flights/day. At some point we have accept some level of risk that a bad guy might get on a plane and do bad things or we end up as a pseudo-police state. There is no such thing as perfect security.

rcpjr on November 18, 2010 at 9:30 AM

Which is why we have to have better border enforcement and better screening of foreign nationals coming into the country.

DHS is hoping to catch terrorists who are in the country. THEY SHOULDN’T EVEN WITH IN THE U.S.!

SPCOlympics on November 18, 2010 at 9:46 AM

Bomb sniffing dogs (or pigs!) – Bitsy

Best idea EVAH!

Tony737 on November 18, 2010 at 9:48 AM

Nice blog post Right Scoop!..Very good!..:)

Dire Straits on November 18, 2010 at 9:49 AM

I’ll be glad when we get some common sense in Washington.

How charmingly optimistic. But what makes you think people will “get” something they’re ignoring and even inverting with a kind of perverse dedication? Isn’t this the whole point of the suicidal politically-correct culture and ethos — the rejection of common-sense understanding in relation to the palpable reality around us, and the replacement with models which support the new, improved systemic insanity of the “experts” and overlords of control? This is the theme of every serious dystopian novel of the 20th century we all read in English class, and now coming true.

The point is that common sense is the enemy. It represents and empowers the average man. It must be inverted, eradicated. It must no longer be taught. It must be forgotten.

rrpjr on November 18, 2010 at 9:50 AM

Did I really see where they are giving a pass to muslims in burkas? so, the only group that is routinely engaged in terrorist acts is exempt…we have a problem!

rgranger on November 18, 2010 at 9:53 AM

cmarceron on November 18, 2010 at 9:23 AM

Yip! What Claire won’t admit is, they failed long before this guy bought his ticket. That’s where it begins, and where it should end. But since they’re lazy on that end, they’re more than willing to make the rest of us guilty before being proven innocent.

capejasmine on November 18, 2010 at 9:54 AM

I say if a TSA agent is going to humiliate you, humiliate them right back. Load up on gasious foods so that you have one at the ready when they go for the rear groping.

Either that or while they are doing a public groin groping ask him or her to get on their knees and look up at you with those pretty eyes.

warden on November 18, 2010 at 9:55 AM

You didn’t get the memo? Per Allah, the Israeli methods cannot be scaled to our system. Impossible.

I think Allah is wrong. First, adopt the fundamental principle of focusing on identifying terrorists as opposed to screening and groping everyone with ineffective and invasive measures searching for bombs. Use Israeli expertise to help scale up the system. It will take time to train people and put the system in place, but the fact we can’t do it tomorrow doesn’t mean we shouldn’t do it at all.

Mostly though Allah is wrong because this mess is security theater,not actual security. All this screening and groping is designed by politicians for political ends, and we just can’t afford to let them get away with it. We must make them understand understand that this insane posturing isn’t acceptable. We must demand results. We must demand they employ effective techniques, and that includes some profiling, whether they like it or not.

I don’t think Jamit Incompetano is up to the job, so we should plan on replacing that corrupt fool and putting someone qualified in the job. Obviously, it may be 2012 before we can do that, That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t bring every possible bit of pressure to bear in the meantime.

I’m driving, not flying, back east for Thanksgiving, and I’m going to take the time to call the airlines I usually use and let them know why.

novaculus on November 18, 2010 at 9:55 AM

So, does our government violate anyone BUT American citizens now? Has a single complaint (other than the flying Imams who obviously got through security without a hitch) been filed against TSA by a traveler from an Arabic country at all?

Screening threatening American penises and preschoolers so you don’t have to! Thanks, Janet.

Bee on November 18, 2010 at 9:56 AM

Every pervert in the world must be trying to get a job with the TSA now.
LODGE4 on November 18, 2010 at 9:27 AM

Which begs the even more obvious question: What kind of background checks have the TSA employees had?

Is it really possible that an organization this insanely politically correct is subjecting ITSELF to a higher level of profiling than they apply to the general public?

logis on November 18, 2010 at 9:56 AM

Here’s my take on what is happening.

1. The TSA is not an awesome high-paying career path; we’re talking about low-paying positions taken by people who aren’t highly-educated. These people are generally powerless in real life, so it gives them a rush when they are given power over other people. The same thing happens with rent-a-cops, meter maids, etc.

2. Having TSA agents trained to act like El-Al means paying them more and making the job more attractive to more highly educated people. This leads to two issues: A. the gov’t union would whine about firing the current TSA workers because very few would make the cut and B. this would be spending extra money when we’re trying to cut the budget.

3. Profiling people = profiling. Even if we did give every passenger a quick background check, people of Arabic descent are probably more likely to be flagged than others (i.e. for traveling overseas to Yemen, Pakistan, etc.).

Illinidiva on November 18, 2010 at 9:56 AM

I just got moderated for saying the peepee word. *sigh*

Bee on November 18, 2010 at 9:56 AM

Pigs and dogs can sniff out the boom boom AND make the islamokooks nervous, it’s a two-fer.

Alden Pyle on November 18, 2010 at 9:57 AM

Somewhere, Bawney Fwank is muttering to himself: “That lucky b@$tard!”

viking01 on November 18, 2010 at 10:01 AM

Great idea! AND every passenger has to PET the pig on the head and say “Gooooood piggie! I love bacon! And muhammed was a child molestor!” If they refuse to touch the pig, they don’t fly. (Jews don’t eat pork, but can they touch a live pig?)

Tony737 on November 18, 2010 at 9:43 AM

My idea was mandatory bacon hors d’oevres or champagne in the queue. There is only one group that cannot partake of either.

Vashta.Nerada on November 18, 2010 at 10:01 AM

Do kids go thru the scanners? If so, how do they justify not arresting the creepy dude staring at images of nekkid children on the computer screen all day?

Alden Pyle on November 18, 2010 at 10:01 AM

Common guys. Don’t be so… whiny.

Obama’s doing the country a huge service by protecting us from … our capitalistic selves.

To ensure that Airline Industry and Travel Business is 100% secured and Terrorist-free, without worrying if the industry will be destroyed by all these TSA-supervised security checking… Obama has just demonstrated to us the best and only proven solution:

GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER OF AIRLINE BUSINESS!

And that’s an honest to goodness CHANGE!

NNNOBAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMAAA!

TheAlamos on November 18, 2010 at 10:03 AM

jcw46 on November 18, 2010 at 9:40 AM

Start by defunding TSA and make the owner’s of either the airports or the airlines pay for security. If they want to hire the TSA employees, fine, otherwise contract EL Al agents to do the job.

The security agents should profile passengers instead of wasting time on being PC.

This would have the benefit of reducing the size of gubmint employees and the budget deficit. After TSA is gone congress should set its sights on DHS for extinction or border security(patrols).

belad on November 18, 2010 at 10:05 AM

The TSA wanted to see my penis

Just in case he had sidewinder missiles attached to it. Better to be safe than sorry.

I hope the TSA is aware of the new nutbags wrapped in C-4 threat.

darwin on November 18, 2010 at 10:07 AM

I rarely fly. Last time I took a plane was almost two years ago for a vacation in Denver. I am now making all future vacation plans include sufficient time to drive to my destination. I will not submit to the level of indignity that airline passengers have to endure these days if I have any choice at all.

Besides, driving is more interesting.

Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on November 18, 2010 at 10:09 AM

Let me be clear, for all you flying nuts bitterly clinging to your halcyon dreams of transportation, in order to save the airline industry from terrorists we had to shut the industry down.

Alden Pyle on November 18, 2010 at 10:09 AM

People like this is the reason we are having to show our goobers at the airport

Another Moon-Bat Beckophobic Restoring Sanity Dipwad

Nearly Nobody on November 18, 2010 at 10:10 AM

Profiling makes sense. Everything else that excludes profiling is PC bullcrap that is eventually going to get people killed if it doesn’t kill the airlines first.

SurferDoc on November 18, 2010 at 10:16 AM

Airport staff ‘exposed woman’s breasts, laughed’

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/travel/news/airport-staff-exposed-womans-breasts-laughed/story-e6frg8ro-1225955345734

pseudonominus on November 18, 2010 at 10:19 AM

Besides, driving is more interesting.

Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on November 18, 2010 at 10:09 AM

Yes driving will be more interesting since Ray Lahood and Obie want to take your cell phone away while anyone is in a car!..:)

Dire Straits on November 18, 2010 at 10:20 AM

Based on his comments with Hannity, I’m going to guess that the pilot Michael Reoberts is not circumcised. The scanner picked this up, and then TSA decided they needed to inspect under the foreskin.

And that’s when he said “enough, I’m outta here.”

That’s why he made that comment about the scanner’s ability to see whether a man is circumcised.

tommy shanks on November 18, 2010 at 10:22 AM

I just got moderated for saying the peepee word. *sigh*

Bee on November 18, 2010 at 9:56 AM

Try using replacement word such as “taking a wizz”..:)

Dire Straits on November 18, 2010 at 10:23 AM

Has anyone ever done a serious background check on “Big Sis”? I’m beginning to think she has some issues….

anniekc on November 18, 2010 at 10:23 AM

Try using replacement word such as “taking a wizz”..:)

Dire Straits on November 18, 2010 at 10:23 AM

It was penis. :) But it went through…thanks!

Bee on November 18, 2010 at 10:25 AM

anniekc on November 18, 2010 at 10:23 AM

I sure would NOT do a ‘pat down” on “Big Sis”..No Thank you!..:)

Dire Straits on November 18, 2010 at 10:27 AM

Bomb sniffing dogs (or pigs!), air marshals, background checks, and behavioral profiling.

Those sickos that were using explosives disguised as baby formula wouldn’t have been caught by scanners or enhanced patdowns either.

bitsy on November 18, 2010 at 9:39 AM

BINGO!!!

If somebody is hiding explosive powder sewn into his underwear (like the Christmas bomber), a full-body screen or somebody feeling his genitals won’t find it, but a well-trained bomb-sniffing dog WILL find it!

Let’s face it, large friendly pet dogs usually smell people’s genitals instinctively when greeting a stranger, and most people are not offended by this–after all, it’s only a dog! A large dog trained to bark only if it smells explosives would sniff everybody a few seconds, and let 99.9999% of passengers through unmolested (including innocent Muslim men), and the TSA could then strip-search only people that the dog found suspicious. Could anyone seriously accuse a DOG of racial or religious profiling?

This, combined with the standard metal-detectors (to prevent people from boarding planes with knives or guns) would probably prevent most dangerous people from boarding planes, without the abusive and invasive searches now being performed by the TSA.

Steve Z on November 18, 2010 at 10:30 AM

Another description of the El Al procedure

“The ‘Israelification’ of airports: High security, little bother”
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/744199—israelification-high-security-little-bother

The only possible hitch I see, besides the obvious one of Muslim profiling which the Israelis are sane enough to do, is that because America is so much more PC than Israel and because the people doing the interviewing – and they would be in large numbers in the USA – must be highly trained & highly competent, there’s the usual problem. Those given this highly expert job under a necessarily strict meritocracy regime, which implicitly means no sort of racial/ethnic quotas or any kind or “affirmative action”, will represent only a fraction of the current work force. A lot of the current screening employees (even though competent in their current work) might not be able to make the grade for this kind of work and might even be out of a job, and some of these who can will cry to the Justice Dept., etc. claiming some sort of discrimination and disparate impact.

Israelification in an excessively PC country like the USA is IMO very problematical and the powers that be know it and are ruling it out, unless a loud enough outcry from the public demands it.

Chessplayer on November 18, 2010 at 10:33 AM

I’m writing Boeing to suggest a new aircraft safety measure against Muzzy terrorist passengers. Pigskin upholstery.

viking01 on November 18, 2010 at 10:34 AM

What we really need to do is to take a page out of Israel’s playbook and begin doing background checks on airline passengers and putting people on the ground in the airports that are specifically trained to interview suspicious passengers.

Over rated

it’s just a lot easier to blow up a bus or shoot hundreds of rockets into Israel

I guess illegals coming across our border are tantamount to rockets fired into Israel

Sonosam on November 18, 2010 at 10:39 AM

What we really need to do is to take a page out of Israel’s playbook and begin doing background checks on airline passengers and putting people on the ground in the airports that are specifically trained to interview suspicious passengers. These methods are much less invasive, and highly effective according to the former Security Chief of El Al airlines

True. Trouble is, everyone knows this is profiling. El AL does this because their first priority is preventing murder and mayhem. Too bad that is not the priority of our leadership.

One more World Trade Center and we will begin to fight for survival. As long as America has a shred of wealth left, the Left will hold firm on the path to suicide. When we take the final financial hit, and we cannot afford a second WTC, the Left will be pushed aside on this issue.

Meanwhile, I am waiting for Napolitano to volunteer to conduct some same-sex body searches herself, to help the public get over their fear of same-sex groping

If they could certify the sexxual orientation of the gropers, it would go a long way in easing the public’s fears about non-consensual sexual encounters. However, what to do if the groper is not honest about their orientation?

entagor on November 18, 2010 at 10:40 AM

I’ll be glad when we get some common sense in Washington.

2 more years.

GarandFan on November 18, 2010 at 10:42 AM

I thought Sean was going to fall outta his chair. I almost fell off the couch. The pilot was a little over the top with his sentiments and wish he would have identified his airline so I can avoid it in the future, but then, they may all feel that way, just don’t go public. Air travel will suffer so we can make use of bullet trains.

Kissmygrits on November 18, 2010 at 10:54 AM

TSA pay scales for 2010: http://www.tsa.gov/join/careers/pay_scales.shtm

Write to your congressman/woman and your senators and complain about the absurd security measures and demand security that respects your 4th Amendment Constitutional rights. If we don’t complain to our representatives, they are free to assume we are apathetic about it, and willing to abide by these insane “security” measures which protect no one, but offend every one.

F*ck Pistole. What an asshole. I want him fired along with Big Sis.

mountainaires on November 18, 2010 at 10:55 AM

Can anyone tell me how body scans and genital grabs can prevent a terrorist from getting into the security line at O’Hare with a very big back pack full of explosives and detonating it during any of the “peak” times at the check point?

How many people do you think a terrorist would kill if he tried that?

Hundreds – that’s how many. And it would shut the airport down for an entire day or more.

Terrorists don’t have to blow up planes – they can blow up airports – they can blow up ANYTHING right up to the point that they place their backpack on the conveyor for x-ray – hell, a clever bomb maker would make a detonator “tripped” by the xray machine itself.

That’s why this is ALL a joke.

HondaV65 on November 18, 2010 at 10:57 AM

Which begs the even more obvious question: What kind of background checks have the TSA employees had?

logis on November 18, 2010 at 9:56 AM

Logis,

You sound like a suspicious sort. So you select the opt out. Please step over this way, remove your clothing while we getter a better idea of who you say you are./sarcasm

shick on November 18, 2010 at 11:01 AM

Maybe the agent was just trying a little foreplay before he did the deed….

SPCOlympics on November 18, 2010 at 9:41 AM

Thread winner – chicken dinner.

steveegg on November 18, 2010 at 11:05 AM

If all of this were going on during the Bush administration all Media complaints about this would be directed at the White House.
Again, Obama gets a pass by the media.
Under Bush the media would be ranting on and on about Big Government, Bush and Cheney are prepping to become dictators, etc, etc, ad nauseum.
But Obama?
Not a question, not a complaint to the guy. (And every night he says he reads the letters of the little people who write him.)

albill on November 18, 2010 at 11:08 AM

Just say NO to fascism!

FloatingRock on November 18, 2010 at 11:21 AM

Bomb sniffing dogs…
bitsy on November 18, 2010 at 9:39 AM

Precisely. A bomb-sniffing K9 can detect the explosive’s odor inside a suitcase locked in the trunk of a car. Never understood why we haven’t deployed dogs all over airports.

rrpjr on November 18, 2010 at 11:23 AM

Pilot is a liar. Period. I work for the TSA and firmly believe that we should profile, but the pilot is full of crap

opiemuyo on November 18, 2010 at 11:24 AM

I bet in college most women wanted to see his penis too.

Tim Burton on November 18, 2010 at 11:25 AM

I bet in college most women wanted to see his pen!s too.

LOL! Pen!s is in the title of the thread, but I’m not allowed to use it in the comments.

Tim Burton on November 18, 2010 at 11:25 AM

“Professional gropers”. Exactly.

SouthernGent on November 18, 2010 at 11:27 AM

You do realize this is the second part of forcing us to 19th-century transportation (i.e. Amtrak).

steveegg on November 18, 2010 at 9:40 AM

That’s what keeps creeping up in the back of my mind…Is the intended consequence of all this that people are no longer flying, but being herded toward a choice very few would make voluntarily?

samuelrylander on November 18, 2010 at 11:28 AM

…Also, what happens the first time a scanner image of an 11 year old girl leaks out? Is that child porn? Is there a separate scanner for sex appropriate TSA viewing of each passenger?

This whole idea is FUBAR.

GnuBreed on November 18, 2010 at 9:36 AM

Government at many levels maintain large collections of kiddie porn to assist in training personnel in ‘what they are looking for’, so the x-ray images of children in airports is not likely to put them in any additional jeopardy.

slickwillie2001 on November 18, 2010 at 11:30 AM

The pilot said that just for shock value. A more accurate statement was that the TSA wanted him to walk through the scanner which would have revealed his genitalia to anyone watching the screen. Instead, what he said lead to the mistaken impression that the TSA asked him to disrobe for a strip search. He chewed up about a minute of precious airtime while Hannity tried to recover from the shock and get a straight answer as to exactly what the TSA asked the man to do. It was a stupid ploy that distracted from the very real message of TSA’s ultimately useless intrusiveness.

Jill1066 on November 18, 2010 at 11:47 AM

Is it me or does EVERYONE in Obama’s administration look like a freak or a child molester?

ctmom on November 18, 2010 at 11:47 AM

Can I see your papers? Do you have photo ID to vote? Racial discrimination and invasive.
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Let us see your weenier, or we’ll have to touch it… NP.
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Delusional schizophrenic paranoia with a touch of sexual perversion/deviancy comes to mind. The rabbit hole has officially been entered.
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RalphyBoy on November 18, 2010 at 11:52 AM

If the government can say ‘it’s not sexual molestation if the government does it to you’, -why can’t they also say that it’s not profiling if the government does it to you?

slickwillie2001 on November 18, 2010 at 11:53 AM

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