Conservative leaders to Republicans: No more unfair criticism of Jim DeMint or else

posted at 9:40 pm on November 17, 2010 by Allahpundit

News you can use if you happen to be a Republican politician or consultant who’s inclined to object to anything Jim DeMint says or does. By its own terms, the declaration only applies to “unfair” criticism; fair criticism is, in theory, still welcome because the signatories “do not expect or advocate for ideological purity in the Republican Party.” But as for what distinguishes fair criticism from unfair and who gets to decide which is which, that’s … less clear. Blaming DeMint for the GOP’s failure to win back the Senate falls into the latter category. Blaming him for anything else — like, say, alienating libertarians with his fiscal con/social con formulation or centrists with his “gays don’t belong in the classroom” rhetoric — means, at the very least, you’re rolling the dice. So it’s probably best to be on the safe side and not criticize at all.

I butt heads sometimes in the comments with Palin’s more strident fans, but I have to say, for all their devotion they’ve never proposed anything like this. Second look at Palinistas.

We do not expect or advocate for ideological purity in the Republican Party, but we do expect the Party’s leadership to rein in those who unfairly attack Senator DeMint, who instead should be given credit for what he has done, and done with such class, honor, humility, dignity and patriotism.

Since Republicans in and affiliated with the Senate who have attacked Senator Jim DeMint have an agenda, and may not heed calls to reason from the Republican leadership, let it be known that continued attacks, whether indirectly or anonymously, will result in conservatives’ responding in word and deed.

Conservatives will not only challenge and beat more Republican senators in Republican primaries, but conservatives will stop funding and volunteering for the NRSC and the RNC. Instead, conservatives will send their money to, and volunteer for, Senator DeMint’s Senate Conservative Fund and the candidates Senator DeMint supports. In fact, it would be our goal for the Senate Conservatives Fund to raise more money than the NRSC. Two: Does the boycott of the RNC and NRSC kick in if

Conservatives will also work to defeat in Republican primaries those Republicans who retain consultants who criticize or try to undermine Senator DeMint.

Follow the link up top for the full text and list of signatories. They make a good point in crediting DeMint for keeping conservatives who were fed up with the GOP in the party fold. (Palin, who repeatedly rejected the third-party route when asked about it, deserves credit too.) And they’re right that it’s unfair to blame him for the GOP not retaking the Senate. The NRSC spent a boatload of cash on Carly Fiorina in California that could have made a difference to Dino Rossi in Washington or Ken Buck in Colorado. And I reminded you just yesterday that an effective RNC could have swung a few races. DeMint himself mentioned that just this past weekend in hinting that it’s time for Steele to go.

A few things I don’t understand, though. One: Why just DeMint? Why not DeMint and Palin and O’Donnell and every other “true conservative” who’s been blamed for midterm failures? Surely they’re not more to blame for the GOP’s minority status in the Senate than he is. Two: What should the party leadership do to “rein in” those who criticize DeMint unfairly? Formal reprimand? Official statement from McConnell/Boehner/Cornyn? How will the leadership know when the criticism is fair versus unfair and therefore worthy of punishment? Three: What exactly would trigger the boycott of the RNC or NRSC mentioned in the letter? A single failure to reprimand? Repeated failure? Or, if enough members of the GOP caucus start criticizing him unfairly, will that trigger a boycott irrespective of committee action? Four: How exactly does a statement like this serve Jim DeMint’s cause? Knowing that his followers want to impose a de facto vow of silence on critics doesn’t make me think, “Hey, let’s give Jim DeMint a more prominent role in the caucus.” It makes me think, “Where, precisely, will this happy little precedent lead?” Sean Hackbarth calls it a right-wing version of political correctness, but of course, of course, he’s a lowly RINO, as am I. And this statement, I think, isn’t meant to be read technically the way I’ve done here but more broadly for what it is — a new “true conservative”/RINO litmus test. For that very reason, I didn’t want to post on it, knowing that the mere fact that I’m criticizing it will only reinforce the alleged RINO-ness of the opposition. But let’s face it: You’re not going to hear many “true conservatives” speak up about it, even if this bugs them too. That’s the way litmus tests operate. Why side with the RINOs and put your authenticity in question when you don’t have to?

Speaking of dirty RINOs, Gabe Malor at Ace’s site has a response to the statement that’s also worth reading.


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Jimmy’s a big boy, he can take care of himself.

GarandFan on November 17, 2010 at 10:25 PM

Yes he can, I said the same above!

bluemarlin on November 17, 2010 at 10:28 PM

HondaV65 on November 17, 2010 at 10:24 PM

Yes, Honda, I know what you mean, but at this time, didn’t you think someone NEW, someone different, someone not afraid to be Conservative would be out and center to counter Obamarxist? That it hasn’t happened after all that has been done troubles me greatly.

And yet, a fist-full a retreads come out as the CW frontrunners!

Gob on November 17, 2010 at 10:29 PM

Regardless of one’s thoughts on DeMint, calling him a pocket dictator is just insulting.

KingGold on November 17, 2010 at 10:21 PM

It’s not insulting if it is true, or are you part of his gestapo. Do you people even comprehend what is going on here. They are saying that DeMint cannot ever be criticized, which means he can never be wrong.

Have you people lost ur minds?

Chudi on November 17, 2010 at 10:32 PM

There needs to be a split. Let there be a Conservative Party, a Democratic Party and the GOP. Let’s see which one ends up like the Whigs.

ddrintn on November 17, 2010 at 9:45 PM

I don’t know. I think a knock down drag out between cons and RINOs is inevitable, and will prove beneficial to the nation when the latter are banished to Canada, or the Isle of Elba.

james23 on November 17, 2010 at 9:46 PM

Not sure either of you would like the answer…

jarodea on November 17, 2010 at 10:32 PM

HondaV65 on November 17, 2010 at 10:00 PM

Exactly, Honda.

I can’t see the elephants for the RINOs in here! Someone tells someone else to “back off!” and it goes from “disturbing ultimatum” to abridging the 1st Amendment to the rise of the Third Reich!

cartooner on November 17, 2010 at 10:32 PM

DeMint now has a gestapo, and is becoming the problem.
Chudi on November 17, 2010 at 9:49 PM

DeMint is now Hitler? You sound like those deranged clowns at HuffPo or Kos.
cartooner on November 17, 2010 at 10:06 PM

Did you ever notice how the harcore liberals always defend the RINOs who attack conservative candidates?

Did you ever stop and think maybe that’s because they really want to help the Republican party?

Me neither.

logis on November 17, 2010 at 10:33 PM

Have you people lost ur minds?

Chudi on November 17, 2010 at 10:32 PM

Racist.

Inanemergencydial on November 17, 2010 at 10:34 PM

[Chudi on November 17, 2010 at 10:02 PM]

It seems to me that dictators also do what you are doing now. You learned well from your experiences.

Dusty on November 17, 2010 at 10:36 PM

Have you people lost ur minds?

Chudi on November 17, 2010 at 10:32 PM

another brain-dead demoKKKrat.

right4life on November 17, 2010 at 10:36 PM

Yes, Honda, I know what you mean, but at this time, didn’t you think someone NEW, someone different, someone not afraid to be Conservative would be out and center to counter Obamarxist? That it hasn’t happened after all that has been done troubles me greatly.

And yet, a fist-full a retreads come out as the CW frontrunners!

Gob on November 17, 2010 at 10:29 PM

Well … you’re talking about the POTUS here and … well the “freshest” face you might possibly see is going to be someone like Mike Pence or Bobby Jindal. Not exactly fresh – but “fresher” than the rest.

Hell – I’ll go with a fresh guy, as long as they aren’t a member of the Ruling Class and they’re born hard conservative.

Me – I’m good with Palin if she runs. If she doesn’t run – she’ll get behind one candidate and help push him or her to the top. I don’t listen to RINO naysayers when they talk about “electability”. They can vote for the nominee they think a Berkely grad will want to vote for. For me – I’ll vote for the guy or gal I WANT in the office.

Palin or any other BORN HARD Conservative can beat Obama – hands down – and we ought to swing for the fence because this guy is so broke down – he’ll be lucky to carry the District of Columbia. There’s no reason we should compromise in 2012 by nominating a Ruling Class fool.

2012 is our year.

HondaV65 on November 17, 2010 at 10:38 PM

KingGold on November 17, 2010 at 10:02 PM

Ah, the Dan Maes issue. I’ve become fully convinced that when Dan Maes narrowly beat Scott McInnis at the GOP state convention this past May, there were some GOP folks who took a good long look at the situation and realized McInnis had to go. By Any Means Necessary.

IOW, someone in the GOP leaked the plagiarism “story” to the Denver Post, not Tim Gill, Pat Stryker, and their motley crew. I’m even willing to go so far as to say Tom Tancredo had a hand in it. So lay off Dan Maes; he became the nominee solely because not that many GOP people in CO wanted McInnis back that badly, and were willing to risk John Hickenlooper for 4-8 years to ensure McInnis would not have the governor’s seat.

Unfortunately (or not!), Ken Buck got caught up in that mess. Fortunately, it didn’t affect the rest of the ticket that much, other than Ryan Frazier.

BradSchwartze on November 17, 2010 at 10:38 PM

This is an issue of character. If you have none, then you snark.

It’s actually my only “social” issue, and so far, it’s working well to sort the wheat from the chaff.

AnninCA on November 17, 2010 at 10:41 PM

Have you people lost ur minds?

Chudi on November 17, 2010 at 10:32 PM
another brain-dead demoKKKrat.

right4life on November 17, 2010 at 10:36 PM

From the hollows of West Virginia. Yeah, that’s our Grand Chudi.

HornetSting on November 17, 2010 at 10:41 PM

HondaV65 on November 17, 2010 at 10:38 PM

Gosh, I sure do hope so!

I can live with a Pence or Jindal! That’s what I’m talkin about!

Gob on November 17, 2010 at 10:42 PM

It’s not insulting if it is true, or are you part of his gestapo. Do you people even comprehend what is going on here. They are saying that DeMint cannot ever be criticized, which means he can never be wrong.

Have you people lost ur minds?

Chudi on November 17, 2010 at 10:32 PM

You have poor reading comprehension.

Question …

1. Who is the letter addressed to? It’s not addressed to the American people – so of course DeMint can be criticized.

2. Who SIGNED the letter? Is DeMint’s signature on it? If not – aren’t you being a bit foolish for blaming him for it?

3. What are they threatening? Are they threatening to throw RINO’s into crematoriums (as your “gestapo” comment infers)? No – they are threatening to take democratic citizen action to remove people from office – which is their right.

What have they done here that is against the law?

HondaV65 on November 17, 2010 at 10:43 PM

This is an issue of character. If you have none, then you snark.

It’s actually my only “social” issue, and so far, it’s working well to sort the wheat from the chaff.

AnninCA on November 17, 2010 at 10:41 PM

Thank you for squaring that circle chardonnayinnca.

Inanemergencydial on November 17, 2010 at 10:45 PM

It seems to me that dictators also do what you are doing now. You learned well from your experiences.

Dusty on November 17, 2010 at 10:36 PM

I have been pointing that out from his/her first post telling people to “shut the hell up”.

bluemarlin on November 17, 2010 at 10:47 PM

That’s how a political movement works. You try hard to win a primary, and then you support the nominee. After the election’s over, then you open fire for a while. That’s why you heard not a peep from me between Primary Day and Election Day about Crazy Sharron Angle and gadfly failure Christine O’Donnell.

KingGold on November 17, 2010 at 10:02 PM

That’s only how it’s supposed to work for Conservatives.

If you’re a RINO – you can violate all those rules – including slamming a GOP nominee on the podium as she’s making a primary victory speech.

HondaV65 on November 17, 2010 at 10:48 PM

What have they done here that is against the law?

HondaV65 on November 17, 2010 at 10:43 PM

They broke the law of not listening to pocket dictator Chud!

bluemarlin on November 17, 2010 at 10:49 PM

Sean Hackbarth calls it a right-wing version of political correctness, but of course, of course, he’s a lowly RINO, as am I.

Now that explains why you sound so much like a liberal half the time!

New Patriot on November 17, 2010 at 10:49 PM

They broke the law of not listening to pocket dictator Chud!

bluemarlin on November 17, 2010 at 10:49 PM

“CHUD” was a very old, very bad movie. As I recall … “CHUD” stood for …

CARNIVOROUS HUMAN UNDERGROUND DWELLERS

HondaV65 on November 17, 2010 at 10:50 PM

Chudi on November 17, 2010 at 10:32 PM

Your hyperbole is so far over the top it’s surreal. If you are trying to accomplish something you are wasting your time.

FloatingRock on November 17, 2010 at 10:51 PM

BTW, Look at the names on that list. They aren’t all nobodies.

Brent Bozell, Erick Erickson, Larry Pratt, Alfred S. Regnery, Ron Robinson to name a few.

clement on November 17, 2010 at 10:52 PM

HondaV65 on November 17, 2010 at 10:50 PM

LMAO! You even remembered what each letter stood for! Too good. (And yes, that movie was crap, LOL!)

Gob on November 17, 2010 at 10:57 PM

“CHUD” was a very old, very bad movie. As I recall … “CHUD” stood for …

CARNIVOROUS HUMAN UNDERGROUND DWELLERS

HondaV65 on November 17, 2010 at 10:50 PM

Well preview should be my friend, however; in this case my mispelling works out well!

bluemarlin on November 17, 2010 at 10:58 PM

HondaV65 on November 17, 2010 at 10:48 PM

I think the validity of this move comes from here. There are all of these rules handed down from the establishment that only seem to apply to those outside of the establishment. At a certain point the conservatives have to throw their weight around in what amounts to self defense.

And the same dynamic applies here. The logic behind criticism of this move, that there’s no established objective standard of what constitutes fair criticism, is fair. So is the logic behind the 11th commandment and that the party has to come together after the primary. Problem is establishment often forget the logic when the shoe’s on the other foot.

My opinion on this is the same as it was on O’Donnell and Angle. It’s the right idea, but there are better ways of doing it.

galenrox on November 17, 2010 at 11:04 PM

One: Why just DeMint?

Simple: he’s our point man. He is a valuable asset worth protecting. As you have said, threatening Republicans with primary challenges isn’t something to be done lightly—so it should be done only to protect valuable people in particularly vulnerable positions.

Palin (and others in her mold), as much as she has done for conservatives, is a private citizen—and thankfully in America, that means she is a lot freer to defend herself from unfair attacks. A sitting senator, on the other hand?

novakyu on November 17, 2010 at 11:05 PM

Have you people lost ur minds?

Chudi on November 17, 2010 at 10:32 PM

You’re such a drama queen.

alwaysfiredup on November 17, 2010 at 11:10 PM

Yes, lay off DeMint, Rinos. One reason why Palin was able to be so easily and quickly demonized by the media is because of Rinos pouring fuel on the fire. The only reason any Republican would attack or blame deMint for anything is because they are worried about their own power and influence in the beltway, like that scag Murkowski.

DeMint is a leader for Conservatives from the inside and an attack on him right now is an attack on Conservativism. He mentioned social issues in that one interview with Fox but has stayed true to the Fiscal message otherwise and anyone who demonizes him simply because of his social conservativism will have to be seen as suspect. Too many turncoats in the GOP, it’s not like there is a lot of trust going around so we have to attach ourselves to the few leaders we have at the moment.

Daemonocracy on November 17, 2010 at 11:14 PM

“CHUD” was a very old, very bad movie. As I recall … “CHUD” stood for …

CARNIVOROUS HUMAN UNDERGROUND DWELLERS

HondaV65 on November 17, 2010 at 10:50 PM

that’s it! I was wondering what that movie was with sewer monsters and the guy from Home alone, I had no idea what the name was!

Daemonocracy on November 17, 2010 at 11:24 PM

Speaking of dirty RINOs, Gabe Malor at Ace’s site has a response to the statement that’s also worth reading.

The only appropriate response to this nonsense is to tell every single one of those signers to go f!@$ themselves.

Keep it up with the purity purges, true cons. Watch your hopes for 2012 circle the drain because you just couldn’t help yourself and couldn’t just stop at fiscal conservatism, which is the only REAL reason (beyond punishing Obama’s insolence / incompetence) indies are giving conservatives a second chance.

Vyce on November 17, 2010 at 11:25 PM

Watch your hopes for 2012 circle the drain because you just couldn’t help yourself and couldn’t just stop at fiscal conservatism, which is the only REAL reason (beyond punishing Obama’s insolence / incompetence) indies are giving conservatives a second chance.

Vyce on November 17, 2010 at 11:25 PM

What hope would that be? What you call victory, liberalism validated and out of control spending under the GOP, we call defeat.

Obama or the GOP version of Obama isn’t worth anything to conservatives. Nothing changes either way.

sharrukin on November 17, 2010 at 11:32 PM

I’m an atheist who would rather have a few more DeMint’s and a few fewer Murkowki’s in the Party if it accompanies a wave of conservative tea party reformers that are not religious literalists.

What’s important is that the coalition of economic conservatives that comprises the core of the tea party, which includes the religious right that DeMint represents, stick together against the corrupt establishment. They will use all the tools in their political toolbox to slow down, stop or reverse any reform efforts. One of the tactics they will use is to attack the reformers, exploiting their weaknesses.

But on the other hand some of DeMint’s critics do make valid points. O’Donnell was not the right candidate, especially for the state.

Ideally DeMint would have recruited a candidate that met both his approval and the conservative tea party voters of the state.

One thing I think most tea partiers agree with is that Republicans like Murkowski and Castle need to be primaried, and more of them. The only Republican’s I’d like to see left over from the old establishment are those that have truly reformed.

FloatingRock on November 17, 2010 at 11:49 PM

I say we just arm everyone and fight it out. My guess is those milquetoast moderate RINOs won’t last through the first volley.

Being nice to the GOP elite has gotten this nation nowhere. Screw em if they don’t like it. They are more dangerous than the democrats. They must all go.

gary4205 on November 18, 2010 at 12:32 AM

*sigh* It’s the same old song. American conservatives and the Israelis get the same criticism: ‘How dare you defend yourselves!’

Jim-Rose on November 18, 2010 at 12:35 AM

I’m an atheist who would rather have a few more DeMint’s and a few fewer Murkowki’s in the Party if it accompanies a wave of conservative tea party reformers that are not religious literalists.

What’s important is that the coalition of economic conservatives that comprises the core of the tea party, which includes the religious right that DeMint represents, stick together against the corrupt establishment. They will use all the tools in their political toolbox to slow down, stop or reverse any reform efforts. One of the tactics they will use is to attack the reformers, exploiting their weaknesses.

But on the other hand some of DeMint’s critics do make valid points. O’Donnell was not the right candidate, especially for the state.

Ideally DeMint would have recruited a candidate that met both his approval and the conservative tea party voters of the state.

One thing I think most tea partiers agree with is that Republicans like Murkowski and Castle need to be primaried, and more of them. The only Republican’s I’d like to see left over from the old establishment are those that have truly reformed.

FloatingRock on November 17, 2010 at 11:49 PM

Very well said.

One thing, Christine might not have been the ideal candidate for Delaware, but she’s the one that stood up to be counted. She’s the one who put herself out there KNOWING she would be attacked.

There in lies the big issue. It’s damned hard to find quality people when they know going in they will not only be attacked by the media 24/7, but the elites in their own party as well.

There is only one Sarah Palin, who frankly doesn’t give a $hit what the media says about her. Hell she thrives on it! Makes her more determined to prove em wrong. All of em.

Those sort of leaders do not grow on trees.

If we want good, honest men and women in Congress, instead of the crooks and liars we have now, we MUST be willing to stand up for them. We MUST be willing to have their backs.

We must confront anyone trying to stop them, or US in their tracks.

We must rid Congress and the White House of the corrupt devils in charge.

Both parties are run by corrupt, Ruling Class elites. Not much we can do about the radical left except defeat it, marginalize it, and eventually help it destroy itself.

On the other hand, we CAN do something about the Republican Party. We can stay on them like white on rice, and hammer them every time they make a wrong move.

We can also cut of their lifeblood, their money.

If we don’t do it, who the hell will?

gary4205 on November 18, 2010 at 12:48 AM

The bigger point was, that nobody is above criticism. DeMint and his picks are fair game. My candidates and my comments are fair game, but I have far less a following then he does. That was my point. Nobody should be above criticism, that’s starting to sound like Obama’s view of himself.

To the individual questions.

“We” get to say anything. But if you’re Castle and you can’t support your own party because you lost?

Just like O’Donnell supported the party when she lost the primary in 2006?

Then, I think that’s very telling. One thing that’s been disturbing to watch, for me, is that the focus remained, per Rove, on electability. Why in the world do I want someone with Castle’s character, which he definitely revealed, in the Senate?

If his failure was in not endorsing O’Donnell, historically speaking it was a mutual flaw. I really don’t see any politician changing stripes regardless of how good or bad they are getting votes?

Why isn’t anyone pointing that out? Ditto for Lisa M. Why would I be pleased that’s a GOP seat? The woman defied her own AK GOP voters.

This is problematic. No party members want to seem entitled to having the general electorate bow to their will. When you tell the masses, the Independents, Democrats and Presidential Primary voters, how they should vote they tend to rebel. Miller should have focused more on the issues, less on the Murkowski being a sore loser aspect, it created the impression he was entitled to the seat. Of course, the choice was writing someone whose father put her in the seat, but voters don’t always make sense to those watching politics.

She’s no win for the GOP.

She’s more a win then the Democrat would have been, given she won’t vote lockstep with Harry Reid like his new pet.

amazingmets on November 18, 2010 at 1:54 AM

Conservatives will also work to defeat in Republican primaries those Republicans who retain consultants who criticize or try to undermine Senator DeMint.

Nicole Wallace better update her skill set.

Bill C on November 18, 2010 at 5:55 AM

Watch your hopes for 2012 circle the drain because you just couldn’t help yourself and couldn’t just stop at fiscal conservatism, which is the only REAL reason (beyond punishing Obama’s insolence / incompetence) indies are giving conservatives a second chance.

Vyce on November 17, 2010 at 11:25 PM

Your concern is noted.

fossten on November 18, 2010 at 6:39 AM

I butt heads sometimes in the comments with Palin’s more strident fans, but I have to say, for all their devotion they’ve never proposed anything like this. Second look at Palinistas.

Instead, conservatives will send their money to, and volunteer for, Senator DeMint’s

Ever think this is why we don’t send you any money?

right2bright on November 18, 2010 at 7:25 AM

The establishment GOP is totally out of touch with their base just as Obama is losing his base. Obama cannot move to socialism fast enough to keep his lunatic nutjobs. The GOP is just clueless on who they are. The GOP will soon become the third party. That maybe the only way to keep our country’s way of life is for them to become irrelevant. What both parties do not realize is the Tea Party is IS democrats AND republiicans who have had enough of the insane spending and the infringements on freedoms and will become the dominant force. This election was just a step in that direction. We have a long and difficult road to erase those who are destroyiing our country. One election is the tip of the iceberg. It will take years and this is just the beginning. Stay the course. This scum will not go away easy. They will lie, steal and cheat to keep control of our lives. Its who they are.

volsense on November 18, 2010 at 9:17 AM

Fund to raise more money than the NRSC. Two: Does the boycott of the RNC and NRSC kick in if

Conservatives will also work to defeat in Republican primaries those

Emphasis mine, Allah needs to do a little editing here.

I think that the threat of monetary and voluntary participation in something *other* than the NRSC and RNC is plenty powerful. Rule one in WDC: Don’t bite the hand that feeds you. Any (R) that ignores this risks his political future.

Geministorm on November 18, 2010 at 9:41 AM

It seems to me that DeMint is a convenient vehicle for this approach, but it is far more important that the NRSC/RNC get the larger message, than whether this impacts DeMint’s standing within the party.

That larger message is simply that the most conservative voters out there are nearly as outraged with the “establishment” Republicans as they are with the Democrats, and it’s time they owned it. With the squishy RNC-types trying to tag DeMint as other than a hero in this election cycle, it more than suggests that they want to hold onto business as usual, and the voters won’t have it. Ergo, learn your lesson or lose our donations to someone who gets it.

This feeling actually explains, to an extent, the results in California. The big question was how could the Pot Prop fail while Moonbeam goes back to the Statehouse. The answer is that many a conservative voter in California refused to vote for a bad Republican. Better that the Democrat party gets all the blame for what comes next, than for it to be shared between the parties because of a Governor Whitman. Much as Delaware conservatives are better off with a “D” to blame in Coons, than having to blame Castle for all the same things, since the two would vote about identically.

Remember, a tsunami isn’t the last wave which will ever hit shore. There’s always another.

Freelancer on November 18, 2010 at 9:56 AM

We in the Tea Party are treading close to the line where we go from defenders of our principles to whining cry babies every time we don’t get EXACTLY what we want. The Scott Brown Tea Party has morphed into the Scorched Earth Tea Party. Hubris is a dangerous thing.

jnelchef on November 18, 2010 at 10:10 AM

What I find odd is that first they demand that the leadership “rein in” critics – which seems to insinuate that criticism has been connived at if not orchestrated by said leadership – but then they consider that critics may not “heed calls to reason,” in which case retaliation is threatened – against BOTH the critics AND the leadership. So what exactly is their take on the guilt and power of the leadership? They seem unable to decide if there’s been a leadership conspiracy or not, then figured that, what the hey, let’s issue an all purpose ultimatum and threaten them anyway. Well I guess you do whatever you can to keep the Indians away from the stagecoach (or the settlers away from the Black Hills, I guess, assuming DeMint’s the one on the warpath). But wouldn’t be helpful to have clarity on this issue? After all, it’s berating the leadership for its alleged failure to muscle critics, not the intent to primary the latter, that smacks the most of schoolyard whining.

Seth Halpern on November 18, 2010 at 10:17 AM

I went after DeMint on our blog and less than 90 minutes later we had Malware attached to a widget. We know where the widget came from as it was tracked back. My brother is a software engineer and enjoyed every minute. Not going to silence us.

Don’t like these tactics and no one is going to tell me that I cannot crictize someone Republican, Democrat, or Independent on our blog or anywhere else.

Don’t see any difference in this nonsense than I did when the Obama people did the same thing. I see the same thing with Palin supporters. If you don’t support her, then you are not a conservative.

This conservative has had it after what I witnessed in the last election and what I am seeing in Alaska with Joe Miller who should never have run for office. The man cannot tell truth even on Fox News. Used the Obama defense to try and cover up his records from 2008 where he lied and covered up with more lies and until the records were released that showed he was still lying. He has so much baggage including being on the take for handouts from the government I cannot believe he can say he is a conservative with a straight face. Yet because DeMint and Palin backed him some were dumb enough to send money without checking him out.

His charges on voter fraud are baseless and they never had people file with the Election Board. Some of the ballots they wanted thrown out were a joke. He is no conservative but an opportunist and a grandstander.

Don’t like Murkowski but would have voted for her over the fraud Joe and one reason she got in the race was when the facts actually came out about the Tea Party Express candidate Joe Miller.

No vetting done by some people when DeMint and Palin gave them their blessings they were golden which gave us some less that good candidates in some states and why we didn’t win some races. Thanks to the people that followed them over the cliff, we have liberal Democrats in the Senate who voted for Harry Reid for two more years.

Now the threats are coming out not to critize DeMint? He and his band of supporters can shove it for all I care and I know I speak for a lot of others. He wants to be President, then he can be sure these kind of tactics are not going to work.

I am a huge Coburn supporter but according to some that is not conservative enough. What happened to Common Sense and electing the candidate in the primary who can actually win in November?

PhiKapMom on November 18, 2010 at 11:08 AM

Good grief, AP, have you lost all sense?

Let me help you understand.

Q: Why just DeMint? Why not DeMint and Palin and O’Donnell and every other “true conservative” who’s been blamed for midterm failures?

A: Because DeMint is a current, working member of the SENATE. Trashing Palin, a former politician, or COD, an unsuccessful candidate, is one thing. But for members of the GOP to trash one of their own who is one of the strongest, most influential and effective voices in the Senate? You try to figure it out from there…

Q: What should the party leadership do to “rein in” those who criticize DeMint unfairly?

A: NOTHING. Did you notice that Conservatives just threatened to take their ‘business’ elsewhere? That’s the real American Way. Are you seriously that obtuse? We don’t force anyone to do anything…we just refuse to be a doormat if they refuse to act in the best interest of the Party (and the loyal base).

Geez, AP…I knew that law degree had muddled your senses. I just didn’t know how badly.

Miss_Anthrope on November 18, 2010 at 3:23 PM

FloatingRock on November 17, 2010 at 11:49 PM

Hear! Hear!

I’ve gone to the deep end on this as well. Raised in the Buckle of the Bible Belt, I hated the concern for my soul.

Having now lived in a Liberal Hell, I would HAPPILY trade all these Libtards and FAKE-Repubs for all the Holy Rollers in Texas.

My hubby, who’s from New England, has also made the transition from ‘lesser of 2 evils’ to ‘principle’ voting.

We are all just SICK of being told to sit down, shut up, and oh, BTW, gimme your money AND time to boot.

EffU, is my reply now. You’re not getting shite if I’m required to be deaf, dumb, & blind to your antics.

Good luck winning your elections depending solely on the Swingtard (read: Indy) voters, RINOs.

Don’t like it? TOUGH. We’re not telling YOU what to do, so why are you trying to do that back?

Miss_Anthrope on November 18, 2010 at 3:35 PM

Conservatives simply letting the ‘moderate’ Republicans know that their attacks will not be ignored, we will return their attacks with interest.

RJL on November 18, 2010 at 3:39 PM

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