Hmmmm: Minneapolis airport considering private screeners instead of TSA?

posted at 9:10 pm on November 16, 2010 by Allahpundit

Don’t get too excited — it’s just one line in a news report about the backlash to TSA’s grip-and-grin policy. But even that bare spark of hope has privatization aficionados passing the link around on Twitter.

One thing I don’t get, though: What will private screeners do that TSA won’t? Tragically, Ace is right. Any attempts at El-Al-type passenger scrutiny in Minneapolis will be quickly sued out of existence until they reach a comfortably inoffensive and ineffective alternative. The good news? Maybe they’ll abandon the groping. The bad news? You won’t be any safer than you are with TSA. Oh well.

You’ll be pleased to know, at least, that there’ll be no religious exemptions from TSA patdowns, thus avoiding an absurd scenario in which the only people whose junk gets touched are those you can pretty safely rule out as terrorists in the first place. Click the image to watch.

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Coulter brought up a good point: only 7 percent of Americans travel on 4 or more roundtrips per year. So the minority that is affected the most has absolutely no voice in this.

John the Libertarian on November 16, 2010 at 9:14 PM

What will private screeners do that TSA won’t?

Most likely, TSA will require private screeners to do what TSA would do.

Skandia Recluse on November 16, 2010 at 9:14 PM

Private screeners will at least smile at you!

jimmy2shoes on November 16, 2010 at 9:16 PM

Foxnews.com says TSA will not exclude anyone based on reigous reasons.
We have not been attacked in 9 years why all of the sudden do we have to submit to this nonsense.
Everybody knows which way the wind blows.
i.e a little revolt every now and again is a good thing.
Allah do you know what I’m sayin?

kangjie on November 16, 2010 at 9:16 PM

Any attempts at El-Al-type passenger scrutiny in Minneapolis will be quickly sued out of existence until they reach a comfortably inoffensive and ineffective alternative.

We are so screwed

Kini on November 16, 2010 at 9:17 PM

Any attempts at El-Al-type passenger scrutiny in Minneapolis will be quickly sued out of existence until they reach a comfortably inoffensive and ineffective alternative.

If we lose the war on terror it will be because we were sued into losing. Guaranteed.

We can’t offend Yemen-born males because that wouldn’t be nice. So instead we’ll sexually assault children.

Protect the Yemeni male, traumatize the child.

That’s how we roll here in America these days.

amerpundit on November 16, 2010 at 9:17 PM

grip-and-grin

Heh.

James OK on November 16, 2010 at 9:18 PM

O/T
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This just blew my mind!
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Tuesday, 16 November 2010

Video: Hundreds ride with boy to show support for his U.S.-flag-decorated bike after school banned it

http://www.theospark.net/2010/11/video-hundreds-ride-with-boy-to-show.html

canopfor on November 16, 2010 at 9:20 PM

You’ll be pleased to know, at least, that there’ll be no religious exemptions from TSA patdowns, thus avoiding an absurd scenario

Boy I bet THAT was hard to spit out.

Took em a whole day to decide it, too.

Alana on November 16, 2010 at 9:20 PM

There is no constitutional provision that prevents using a terrorist profiling technique as a security measure.

novaculus on November 16, 2010 at 9:23 PM

Does the Obama admin have the biggest tin ear in all history
I remember when Jimmy Carter boycotted the olympics after Russia invaded Afgahnwhatever. You know the rest of the story.

kangjie on November 16, 2010 at 9:23 PM

SOMEONE tell me if the Drudge headline about peeking in your underwear is true???!!?

Also, I give this policy 3 weeks until it’s canceled. Thanksgving + cranky families + groping = riots

picklesgap on November 16, 2010 at 9:24 PM

canopfor on November 16, 2010 at 9:20 PM

Dude!

So awesome, thanks for sharing that!

Inanemergencydial on November 16, 2010 at 9:25 PM

I actually think we go El Al style if Obama keeps this in place

Palin will see to it

picklesgap on November 16, 2010 at 9:27 PM

Any attempts at El-Al-type passenger scrutiny in Minneapolis will be quickly sued out of existence until they reach a comfortably inoffensive and ineffective alternative.

We are so screwed

Kini on November 16, 2010 at 9:17 PM

I wouldn’t take this as gospel. If a law enforcement officer get’s an APB with a description of the suspect and he starts looking for people that fit that description, that is essentially profiling. So it does happen even in today’s hyper-correct society.

hisfrogness on November 16, 2010 at 9:29 PM

Thanksgving + cranky families + groping = riots

picklesgap on November 16, 2010 at 9:24 PM

I concur. One reasonably protective father seeing his little 13 year old angel get reduced to tears by some polyestered goon is all it will take.

kurtzz3 on November 16, 2010 at 9:30 PM

canopfor on November 16, 2010 at 9:20 PM
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Dude!

So awesome, thanks for sharing that!

Inanemergencydial on November 16, 2010 at 9:25 PM

Inanemergencydial:I sent it to AP,I do hope he threads it!:)
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News Story

Bikers Rally To Support Boy’s Flag Display
Motorcycle Riders Back Denair Teen

http://www.kcra.com/r/25795718/detail.html

canopfor on November 16, 2010 at 9:30 PM

The good news? Maybe they’ll abandon the groping.

You wingnuts get this all wrong. The Obama administration is just trying to make government more efficient by providing this service. What you call “groping” is just a free – yes, FREE – prostate exam courtesy of Obamacare. Granted, some of the TSA’s health screeners need some more practice on their technique, but in the end this is one of the measures that will bend the cost curve down.

malclave on November 16, 2010 at 9:32 PM

Maybe former Israeli Conter-Terrorism experts could
train up,the privateization of the TSA in Minneapolis!

canopfor on November 16, 2010 at 9:33 PM

This is the same airport that will allow the wolves in with the sheep.

Area Muslims pray near the ticketing area of the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport, Friday, Dec. 1, 2006, in Bloomington, Minn. The group is asking airport officials to set aside a private place for prayer after the removal last week of a group of imams from a US Airways flight in Minneapolis

They’re not all terrorists? Think again

Kini on November 16, 2010 at 9:33 PM

Any attempts at El-Al-type passenger scrutiny in Minneapolis will be quickly sued out of existence until they reach a comfortably inoffensive and ineffective alternative.
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Maybe former Israeli Conter-Terrorism experts could
train up,the privateization of the TSA in Minneapolis!

canopfor on November 16, 2010 at 9:33 PM
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Nevermind!

canopfor on November 16, 2010 at 9:34 PM

They’re not all terrorists? Think again

Kini on November 16, 2010 at 9:33 PM

Kini:Hari-Kari note,ugh:)

canopfor on November 16, 2010 at 9:36 PM

Consider the weight of discrimination, when the demand for Sharia compliance is refused, where does it stop?

Kini on November 16, 2010 at 9:37 PM

Hari-Kari note,ugh:)

canopfor on November 16, 2010 at 9:36 PM

When political correctness meets Sharia Law in Minneapolis

It’s just a matter of time

Kini on November 16, 2010 at 9:40 PM

I remember when Jimmy Carter boycotted the olympics after Russia invaded Afgahnwhatever. You know the rest of the story.

kangjie on November 16, 2010 at 9:23 PM

That’ll show them! You invade Afghanistan? We’ll punish our own athletes!

Same thing is happening now at USC. The kids there now are being punished for previous violations of the athletic department.

John the Libertarian on November 16, 2010 at 9:40 PM

Does there really even need to be a religious exemption? Just as soon as some 200lb white male TSA agent is filmed searching a Muslim female (“please remove the hijab/burqa, miss”), then CAIR will be shoving some eeriely “Western-looking” representative in front of any and every camera that will give them air time, spouting about profiling and burqaphobia. And then comes the internal memos from the TSA higher-ups about avoiding public relations challenges by not searching people of a certain religious faith…

Jeddite on November 16, 2010 at 9:40 PM

canopfor on November 16, 2010 at 9:36 PM

OT:We have just had a troll step waaayyy over the line on the Cheney thread!..I do NOT like to ban anyone but certain ethical posting guidelines should be followed..Look and judge for yourselves!..:)

Dire Straits on November 16, 2010 at 9:40 PM

John the Libertarian on November 16, 2010 at 9:40 PM

John we have a flameout on the Cheney thread!..:)

Dire Straits on November 16, 2010 at 9:42 PM

Dare to Dramamine

Kini on November 16, 2010 at 9:42 PM

So now every person who wants to ride a plane is submitted to ridicule and intrusion.

How is this better than what the terrorists want to do to us? I’d rather live with a moderate amount of risk knowing that whatever plans they’re hatching don’t affect the way I live.

Isn’t that what we always said they were after? Changing our way of life?

jimmy the notable on November 16, 2010 at 9:44 PM

If I owned a car rental company, I’d be slashing the prices of all my sports cars, luxury cars, and SUV’s for those who are traveling over 500 miles, with even deeper rate cuts for business travelers. Call it the “TSA off my TnA” discount plan. I bet they’d do pretty well as molestation free alternative to air travel.

Weight of Glory on November 16, 2010 at 9:44 PM

Any attempts at El-Al-type passenger scrutiny in Minneapolis will be quickly sued out of existence until they reach a comfortably inoffensive and ineffective alternative.

But since it’s the only way it has to be done anyway.

FloatingRock on November 16, 2010 at 9:46 PM

OT:We have just had a troll step waaayyy over the line on the Cheney thread!..I do NOT like to call for anyone to get banned.. but certain ethical posting guidelines should be followed..Look and judge for yourselves!..:)

Dire Straits on November 16, 2010 at 9:40 PM

Sorry had to fix that!..:)

Dire Straits on November 16, 2010 at 9:47 PM

John we have a flameout on the Cheney thread!..:)

Dire Straits on November 16, 2010 at 9:42 PM

Dammit! Where’s Bishop the Troll Slayer when we need him?!

John the Libertarian on November 16, 2010 at 9:49 PM

Dammit! Where’s Bishop the Troll Slayer when we need him?!

John the Libertarian on November 16, 2010 at 9:49 PM

I think Annoyinglittletwerp is after him..:)

Dire Straits on November 16, 2010 at 9:50 PM

OT:We have just had a troll step waaayyy over the line on the Cheney thread!..I do NOT like to ban anyone but certain ethical posting guidelines should be followed..Look and judge for yourselves!..:)

Dire Straits on November 16, 2010 at 9:40 PM

Dire Straits:Ya,I think that person has a fetish for the
movie,Deliverance.

I called in Air Support-*wink-wink*-:)

canopfor on November 16, 2010 at 9:51 PM

I called in Air Support-*wink-wink*-:)

canopfor on November 16, 2010 at 9:51 PM

good deal..:)

Dire Straits on November 16, 2010 at 9:54 PM

What will private screeners do that TSA won’t?

You know…

…. When the government’s 1st answer after 9/11 was to create the TSA and unionize all the employees, I knew we were fuc%ed.

Seven Percent Solution on November 16, 2010 at 9:56 PM

MN airport? THey’re quite likely to have a bunch of muslim screeners. That airport started the foot-washing bs and almost let muslim cabbies get away with refusing to take passengers with dogs and/or alcohol.

SilentWatcher on November 16, 2010 at 9:57 PM

Dire Straits on November 16, 2010 at 9:42 PM
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Dammit! Where’s Bishop the Troll Slayer when we need him?!

John the Libertarian on November 16, 2010 at 9:49 PM

John the Libertarian:Taking a wild guess,Bishop probably
was riding shotgun with Hawkdriver,
to support the Flag Flying with Cody
Alicea in California Flag SNAFU!:)

canopfor on November 16, 2010 at 9:57 PM

The good news? Maybe they’ll abandon the groping. The bad news? You won’t be any safer than you are with TSA. Oh well.

Lack of safety > Lack of safety AND government scum fondling people with impunity.

MadisonConservative on November 16, 2010 at 10:00 PM

Any attempts at El-Al-type passenger scrutiny in Minneapolis will be quickly sued out of existence

How so? You don’t have to fly the particular airline that chooses to use that method.

GarandFan on November 16, 2010 at 10:01 PM

Hari-Kari note,ugh:)

canopfor on November 16, 2010 at 9:36 PM
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When political correctness meets Sharia Law in Minneapolis

It’s just a matter of time

Kini on November 16, 2010 at 9:40 PM

Kini:Grand jury convenes in FBI terror case against Minneapolis Muslims, mosque.

There so much of this crap,that it is a slow ticking time bomb,I understand Michigan State,is being called,Mich
iganStan!

canopfor on November 16, 2010 at 10:02 PM

What will private screeners do that TSA won’t?

Buy you dinner first?

strictnein on November 16, 2010 at 10:04 PM

canopfor on November 16, 2010 at 9:57 PM

Not so wild a guess! How cool would that be?

John the Libertarian on November 16, 2010 at 10:04 PM

If I fly, I know just what I’m going to put in my shorts…

/oh boy is this gonna be great!

john1schn on November 16, 2010 at 10:07 PM

canopfor on November 16, 2010 at 9:57 PM
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Not so wild a guess! How cool would that be?

John the Libertarian on November 16, 2010 at 10:04 PM

John the Libertarian:That would be Awesomelicious!:)

canopfor on November 16, 2010 at 10:11 PM

What will private screeners do that TSA won’t?

Buy you dinner first?

strictnein on November 16, 2010 at 10:04 PM

Depends on the sex of the passenger. Women will be cuddled, men will be given a sandwich.

Then the company will be sued for sex discrimination, shut down, and the TSA will be back.

malclave on November 16, 2010 at 10:22 PM

Note to TSA – offering a pre-boarding “happy ending” not likely to increase air travel over the holidays, despite what the focus group told you guys.

On a serious note, what kind of pressure can be asserted on the various local governments and their airport authorities to eject the TSA goon squads? And what are the chances of getting them to adopt a more El Al style approach? I’m guessing that the case can be made that the law states that they have to suck eggs (i.e. have security), but is fairly ambivalent on the manner in which said eggs are to be sucked (although there’s probably a host of rent-seeking TSA blusterbuffoons who will argue incoherently to the contrary). And IF a few larger metro airport operations, ones that would have the resources to take on the guaranteed CAIR whinefest long enough to get a favorable ‘STFU’ legal ruling on the matter can do so, is it possible a two tier system might emerge, with the privatized and effectively but not intrusively secured hubs and airports being preferable, thus supplying a market alternative to the once size fits nobody idiocy flowing from those exhibiting exactly what we’ve come to expect from pompous, unaccountable, and entrenched beauraucrats, such that TSA becomes the gub’mint equivalent of ‘Air America’ (pun totally intended).

Ah, to dream.

Wind Rider on November 16, 2010 at 10:49 PM

Oh, and I’m wondering how well the idea of male passengers ‘picked at random’ to have their ‘resistance met’ insisting that it be done by a female TSA screener, using the “Stripes” criteria, would go over. Just to mess with them back.

Wind Rider on November 16, 2010 at 10:52 PM

What will private screeners do that TSA won’t?

Buy you dinner first?

strictnein on November 16, 2010 at 10:04 PM

Let you pick your screener?

Dibs on the cheery brunette coed!

cthulhu on November 16, 2010 at 10:53 PM

I concur. One reasonably protective father seeing his little 13 year old angel get reduced to tears by some polyestered goon is all it will take.

kurtzz3 on November 16, 2010 at 9:30 PM

Why would a reasonably protective father tell his daughter to opt out of the regular arms in the air remote screening and go instead for the TSA handjob? None of the fuzzy B/W images I have seen have been remotely concerning, except to the mental health of a person who has to watch those things all day long that is.

pedestrian on November 16, 2010 at 10:57 PM

Since when is behavior profiling illegal?

kagai on November 16, 2010 at 11:48 PM

I guess everyone is totally forgetting why airport security was taken over by the public sector: Consistency.

People act as if airport security didn’t exist before TSA existed. Of course it did. But it was inconsistent and rife with problems.

ButterflyDragon on November 17, 2010 at 12:13 AM

People act as if airport security didn’t exist before TSA existed. Of course it did. But it was inconsistent and rife with problems.

ButterflyDragon on November 17, 2010 at 12:13 AM

And now its consistently rife with problems. They haven’t stopped anyone. The passengers on board have had to do that.

sharrukin on November 17, 2010 at 12:16 AM

San Francisco & LAX both use private screeners instead of TSA?

borg on November 17, 2010 at 12:37 AM

Don’t get too excited — it’s just one line in a news report about the backlash to TSA’s grip-and-grin policy. But even that bare spark of hope has privatization aficionados passing the link around on Twitter.

We need to put the pressure on the airports themselves:

Did you know that the nation’s airports are not required to have Transportation Security Administration screeners checking passengers at security checkpoints? The 2001 law creating the TSA gave airports the right to opt out of the TSA program in favor of private screeners after a two-year period. Now, with the TSA engulfed in controversy and hated by millions of weary and sometimes humiliated travelers, Rep. John Mica, the Republican who will soon be chairman of the House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, is reminding airports that they have a choice.

Rae on November 17, 2010 at 1:09 AM

The obvious solution to the problem is to dissolve TSA and legislatively cancel all of its authority.

The TSA has proved that it is not only ineffective, but that it does not understand its mission!!!!

landlines on November 17, 2010 at 1:42 AM

We are so screwed

Kini on November 16, 2010 at 9:17 PM

Pretty much.

jarodea on November 17, 2010 at 2:32 AM

I think it was Mark Steyn who observed that this present charade will enter a crisis if terrorists begin striking at the screening stations.

Kralizec on November 17, 2010 at 3:19 AM

TSA screeners come without brains.

tarpon on November 17, 2010 at 7:14 AM

You’ll be pleased to know, at least, that there’ll be no religious exemptions from TSA patdowns,

Well that is a relief. So the first time a muslim woman in muslim garb gets the groin pat down, CAIR will sue, the TSA will cave and we will all be able to travel without getting fondled again.

ctmom on November 17, 2010 at 7:49 AM

Doesn’t Minneapolis have the largest concentration of muslims in the country? Just sayin.

jaimo on November 17, 2010 at 8:11 AM

Doesn’t Minneapolis have ..
jaimo on November 17, 2010 at 8:11 AM

Nose-to-nose tie with Dearborn, MI
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CaveatEmpty on November 17, 2010 at 8:53 AM

When they tear up a ticket held by a hijab wearing woman who refuses the pat down in Minn airport, then I’ll start to take them seriously. You know CAIR is not going to let that happen. If Minn takes over their own security, are the Muslims going to get a pass in the security line. Frisking that 3yo was disturbing and she’ll have to go through it again on the return flight.

Kissmygrits on November 17, 2010 at 9:03 AM