CBC rebelling against Pelosi?

posted at 9:30 am on November 16, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Over the weekend, I wondered whether Nancy Pelosi’s solution to the leadership fight between Steny Hoyer and James Clyburn — but really caused by herself — would mollify the Congressional Black Caucus.  As of last night, the answer appears to be a resounding no.  While the CBC says it supports Clyburn for “the number three position,” the group pointedly refused to endorse Pelosi for the top position until Pelosi explains exactly what Clyburn’s authority and power will actually be in the new make-work position of “assistant leader” (via Instapundit):

The Congressional Black Caucus has decided to withhold its approval for the House Democratic leadership team, denying Speaker Nancy Pelosi full support of the 42-member organization as she campaigns to remain leader.

After a nearly two hour long meeting on Monday night, chairwoman Barbara Lee of California said the group only will endorse caucus member James Clyburn of South Carolina for a leadership position. The causus first wants to know what his role will be in the Democratic leadership before backing the full slate.

“We fully support our current Whip, Mr. Clyburn, for the number three position and we are currently reserving judgment on the entire package until we see what the actual portfolio entails, in terms of responsibilities,” Lee said.

In other words, the CBC called Pelosi’s bluff.  They don’t want a spot on the leadership team just to find out it’s a figurehead position.  When working as Majority Whip, Clyburn had actual authority and leverage.  The new “assistant leader” position sounds as useful as the Vice President of the United States (or at least its current occupant, rather than his two predecessors), except that Clyburn would still be two heartbeats away from the top spot.

If the CBC withholds its support for Pelosi, it’s doubtful she can win as leader.  Worse, it gives Democrats who may have felt too intimidated to publicly oppose her some leeway now to take a stand.  The only element lacking at the moment would be a legitimate challenge from the caucus for the top spot.

Under the circumstances, though, Steny Hoyer could make a play for it, if he has the gumption to try.  He could promise the #2 spot to Clyburn and get the backing of the CBC, and that would push Pelosi out altogether.  If he tries it, then Pelosi would probably try backing Clyburn for #2 as well, which would make this fight over the top spot, where it should have been all along.


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Honestly, as much as I’m disgusted by Nancy, the CBC should be looking into the absolute failure of Liberal black politicians; their corruptness and overall failure to serve the American people with any form of honor and integrity. Look within you idiots, as it is no secret that your very own people are abstract failures.

Keemo on November 16, 2010 at 9:33 AM

until Pelosi explains exactly what Clyburn’s authority and power will actually be in the new make-work position of “assistant leader”


Guardian of the Gavel
??

ted c on November 16, 2010 at 9:34 AM

lovely.

ctmom on November 16, 2010 at 9:34 AM

Look, there will be no attempts to extricate themselves from the Speaker, any act to this end will be seen as an act of disloyalty.

oh wait….loyalty among dems is like honor amongst thieves.

ted c on November 16, 2010 at 9:35 AM

Why is Congress divided by race?

Mojave Mark on November 16, 2010 at 9:36 AM

Heath has a chance now?

cmsinaz on November 16, 2010 at 9:37 AM

And so it begins. I said before the midterms that with the Blue Dogs going bye-bye and the CBC(excluding Col. West and Tim Scott) becoming a much larger percentage of the House Democrats, that they’d be even more beholden to them. They’re in serious trouble if the likes of Clyburn, Rangel, and Waters are gonna be calling the shots.

Doughboy on November 16, 2010 at 9:37 AM

Need some more lighter fluid, Rush? :-)

MNHawk on November 16, 2010 at 9:37 AM

The only element lacking at the moment would be a legitimate challenge from the caucus for the top spot.

is Heath Shuler illegitimate?

ted c on November 16, 2010 at 9:38 AM

Steny, man up

cmsinaz on November 16, 2010 at 9:38 AM

But what does the CWC think? Oh, wait…

KS Rex on November 16, 2010 at 9:38 AM

Once again, the Dem Congressional leadership tells the Black man “you can stand with us, but ya best not be comin’ into the parlor.”

coldwarrior on November 16, 2010 at 9:39 AM

While the CBC says it supports Clyburn for “the number three position,” the group pointedly refused to endorse Pelosi for the top position until Pelosi explains exactly what Clyburn’s authority and power will actually be in the new make-work position of “assistant leader”

Meh. This is just posturing. They’ll support her in the end… they’re just trying to milk the moment and get as many perks for Clyburn while the iron is hot.

mankai on November 16, 2010 at 9:39 AM

Does anyone believe that the CBC would support Shuler over Pelosi?

mankai on November 16, 2010 at 9:40 AM

Stay strong Pelosi! What are they going to do in the end….vote Republican?

Mord on November 16, 2010 at 9:41 AM

is Heath Shuler illegitimate?

ted c on November 16, 2010 at 9:38 AM

He is as a starting quarterback.

Doughboy on November 16, 2010 at 9:41 AM

Clyburn should throw his hat in the ring as minority leader. After all, he’s a minority and all.

Akzed on November 16, 2010 at 9:42 AM

I hope the CBC takes complete control of the Democratic Caucus.

Those guys are marxists – straight up – and they’ll make sure everyone knows it when they take the leadership!

JIM CLYBURN for SPEAKER!!

HondaV65 on November 16, 2010 at 9:42 AM

Assistant Leader or Assistant to the Leader?
It’s a Dwight Schrute situation- hilarious.

jjshaka on November 16, 2010 at 9:43 AM

Being a woman who could take Nov. 2′s drubbing and still think she had the divine right of Gaia to continue her rule over at least the remaining Democrats in the House for the next two years, I’d look for Pelosi to toss Hoyer under the bus faster than Steny can do it to her. Either way, moving Clyburn up to the No. 2 positions guarantees that you’re going to have enough race cards thrown in the next two years at the House Republican leadership to fill Las Vegas 10 times over, since James does not figure to be a quiet No. 2 man during the 2012 election cycle.

jon1979 on November 16, 2010 at 9:43 AM

James “Dwight Schrute” Clyburn ….Assistant “to” the Regional Manager.

Spider79 on November 16, 2010 at 9:44 AM

The causus first wants to know what his role will be in the Democratic leadership before backing the full slate.

What, being Empress Pelosi’s chauffeur not good enough? Clyburn doesn’t want to drive around someone who led her party to an historic defeat?

rbj on November 16, 2010 at 9:44 AM

JJ beat me to it.

Spider79 on November 16, 2010 at 9:45 AM

The only element lacking at the moment would be a legitimate challenge from the caucus for the top spot.

If only conservative Democrats could mount a charge against the liberals. Heath Shuler is the “symbolic choice”, yet would have no chance without support from a block like the CBC. Perhap is Pelosi can’t/won’t define Clyburn’s “position”, Shuler should be courting a deal with the CBC. I know, it’s a pipe dream, but so was taking back the House two short years ago.

Rovin on November 16, 2010 at 9:46 AM

JJ beat me to it.

Spider79 on November 16, 2010 at 9:45 AM

That Okay :)- it is amazing how art imitates life.
You couldn’t make this up.

jjshaka on November 16, 2010 at 9:48 AM

Yeah, we need a double-A program in Congress, that’s the ticket.

slickwillie2001 on November 16, 2010 at 9:49 AM

is Heath Shuler illegitimate?

ted c on November 16, 2010 at 9:38 AM

He is as a starting quarterback.

Doughboy on November 16, 2010 at 9:41 AM

That’s gonna hurt some Vol’ fans around here.

Mostly because it’s true.

JohnGalt23 on November 16, 2010 at 9:50 AM

Democrats who may have felt too intimidated to publicly oppose her

What on earth makes her so scarey? Has she so much power that these folks are afraid to speak out about the folly of her recent career choice? What kind of voters would elect such wimps? If they want her in the job, well okay, but if they truly, truly feel she is the wrong choice where is the backbone? As for the CBC, they just want Hoyer kicked downstairs and Clyburn coming out on top as an exercise in power–period.

jeanie on November 16, 2010 at 9:51 AM

Give me a friggin break. At the end of the day, the CBC will STFU and do as they’re told. And is it just me, or is anyone else tired of this Black Separatist” crap?

Alabama Infidel on November 16, 2010 at 9:52 AM

Who wins when the Democrats break out the pool cues, broken bottles and switchblades for an intersquad scrimmage?

The American people.

NoDonkey on November 16, 2010 at 9:53 AM

So far it has been a delicious morning, with Dems crying, rebelling, and laying on the floor kicking their heels whilst holding their breath.

Two out of three ain’t bad.

GnuBreed on November 16, 2010 at 9:55 AM

More to the point to me though is Reid starting to push Schumer into a lead position in the Senate. If I had to name only one person in the Senate who is a power hungry ass it would be Schumer. I thoroughly dislike the man.

jeanie on November 16, 2010 at 9:55 AM

Heath Shuler’s challenge to Pelosi is so phony and contrived that I would be surprised if it went anywhere besides blutering.

Shuler just won election to his third term. Parties don’t give leadership spots to greenhorns – liberal dynastic parties like the Democrats, anyway.

Plus, he’s a (supposed) Blue Dog. His voting base just got thrown out of office.

KingGold on November 16, 2010 at 9:56 AM

*blustering

KingGold on November 16, 2010 at 9:56 AM

The ousted Blue Dogs are not very happy over the damage that Pelosi’s troika of lieutenants of Slaughter, DeLauro, and George Miller had done to the Dem brand.

There is much dissension in the Dem ranks.

onlineanalyst on November 16, 2010 at 9:58 AM

the group pointedly refused to endorse Pelosi for the top position until Pelosi explains exactly what Clyburn’s authority and power will actually be

He is going to sweep the porch…and serve the tea.

right2bright on November 16, 2010 at 10:01 AM

That’s gonna hurt some Vol’ fans around here.

Mostly because it’s true.

JohnGalt23 on November 16, 2010 at 9:50 AM

LOLz!!

ted c on November 16, 2010 at 10:01 AM

*blustering

KingGold on November 16, 2010 at 9:56 AM

Though you meant to say “blootering.” ( i.e., being total fools.)

coldwarrior on November 16, 2010 at 10:02 AM

He is going to sweep the porch…and serve the tea.

right2bright on November 16, 2010 at 10:01 AM

Billy Jeff and the boys are thirsty.

ted c on November 16, 2010 at 10:02 AM

Pelosi is still completely unclear on the concept.

Let’s put it to you this way, Nans!

Think……….KRYPTONITE!

pilamaye on November 16, 2010 at 10:02 AM

More to the point to me though is Reid starting to push Schumer into a lead position in the Senate. If I had to name only one person in the Senate who is a power hungry ass it would be Schumer. I thoroughly dislike the man.

jeanie on November 16, 2010 at 9:55 AM

Remember, he loaned Reid $500 million for his campaign, you know Schumer was going to get his slice of the pie.

right2bright on November 16, 2010 at 10:03 AM

“…until Pelosi explains exactly what Clyburn’s authority and power will actually be…”

“Ridin’ Miss Daisy” comes to mind…. /

coldwarrior on November 16, 2010 at 10:06 AM

Though you meant to say “blootering.” ( i.e., being total fools.)

coldwarrior on November 16, 2010 at 10:02 AM

Why not? Works just as well. Pelosi’s going to win with or without the Black Caucus, because she still has the support of the New England Communists and the urban poverty pimps. Just because she doesn’t have the gerrymandered race barons on her side for the moment doesn’t mean she won’t win running away. Shuler’s just going to be a protest vote.

KingGold on November 16, 2010 at 10:06 AM

or at least its current occupant, rather than his two predecessors

You must be speaking about how Algore invented the internet…

GrayDog on November 16, 2010 at 10:07 AM

The CBC just doesn’t understand. You have to approve it to see what’s in it.

unclesmrgol on November 16, 2010 at 10:09 AM

right2bright on November 16, 2010 at 10:03 AM

I didn’t know that. But even knowing it does nothing to lessen my fear that Schumer can cause more trouble than Reid ever did or could. Harry, as I see him, is not nearly so arrogant and partisan as Schumer(and that’s saying a mouthful in the comparison category!)Off topic I know–so I’m quitting this line of exchange but I hope it comes up on HA one of these days. I think we need to look harder at Chuckie than we’ve been doing.

jeanie on November 16, 2010 at 10:10 AM

Is breitbart still waiting for the spit video?

Mr_Magoo on November 16, 2010 at 10:12 AM

The causus first wants to know what his role will be in the Democratic leadership before backing the full slate.

The job of the pig for the Queen of Hearts was to relieve the aches of the royal feet. Pelosi has the same type job in mind for James Clyburn.

csdeven on November 16, 2010 at 10:17 AM

They say Limbaugh’s “Driving Miss Nancy” is insulting.

And it is. Miss Nancy is insulting.

The Monster on November 16, 2010 at 10:26 AM

Queen of Hearts
I just love that comparison. She is the walking, breathing personifcation of Carroll’s queen. Her version of ‘off with their heads’ is verbal and behind the scenes cruel but is still very evident.

jeanie on November 16, 2010 at 10:30 AM

The CBC turning down Affirmative Action?What is this world coming to?

DDT on November 16, 2010 at 10:35 AM

Maybe Clyburn can be a look’in over the White House garden…Go’in be a plentiful crop com’in this a yar, go’in need some help pick’n.
The CBC don’t get it…all they are are votes, nothing more then votes. They keep guys like Jackson in power, and he keeps his “boys” in place.
In the 1950′s the union went to the black leadership and promised union support and positions of power if they begin voting as a block to support the union/dems.
They did, and the blacks ended up with most of nothing, just a couple of of them were given “power jobs” to keep their boys in place. But the union relinquished nothing. The democrats have done this to the black community for decades…just enough to keep a few in power, but nothing for the “masses”.
Nothing has changed, a great society, destroyed by their own.

right2bright on November 16, 2010 at 10:37 AM

is Heath Shuler illegitimate?

ted c on November 16, 2010 at 9:38 AM

Ask a Redskins fan about his quarterbacking skills. “Bastid” will be a kind retort.

I think we need to look harder at Chuckie than we’ve been doing.

jeanie on November 16, 2010 at 10:10 AM

Just go to D.C. with a camera. Schumer will be there in 30 seconds.

either orr on November 16, 2010 at 10:38 AM

I didn’t know that.
jeanie on November 16, 2010 at 10:10 AM

WASHINGTON — Senator Charles E. Schumer shipped $500,000 to Nevada in recent weeks to help Harry Reid, the Senate majority leader and Mr. Schumer’s political patron and close friend, as he fights for his political life. NYT

He saved Reid…without that along with staff support Reid would not be Senator.
Nothing is worse then a scumbag like Reid, owing another scumbag his life.
Schumer will be facing indictment later, so this Reid

right2bright on November 16, 2010 at 10:46 AM

MORE POPCORN!

Spitball Clyburn’s problem is that he just doesn’t know his place in the Democratic hierarchy. Nancy expects him to step aside and MAKE ROOM FOR THE WHITE GUY. And so far, Blacks have accepted their 2nd class position in the party.

GarandFan on November 16, 2010 at 10:48 AM

is Heath Shuler illegitimate?

ted c on November 16, 2010 at 9:38 AM

Ask a Redskins fan about his quarterbacking skills. “Bastid” will be a kind retort.

I think we need to look harder at Chuckie than we’ve been doing.

jeanie on November 16, 2010 at 10:10 AM

Tennessee replaced Heath Shuler with a Republican when he left for his first failed stint Washington. I’m surprised the voters of North Carolina didn’t do the same thing two weeks ago.

jon1979 on November 16, 2010 at 10:52 AM

Schumer will be facing indictment later, so this Reid

right2bright on November 16, 2010 at 10:46 AM

Hit the button to soon.
Reid is heavily beholding to Schumer, and Schumer is going to be drug into this Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae stuff later this year.
Democrats…a den of thieves.

right2bright on November 16, 2010 at 10:53 AM

If the CBC wants to know what Pelosi thinks of Clyburn and the new position she created just for him, they ought to just go the the liberal dictionary for the term the Left gives to Blacks who get live in the House by the good graces of their White “superiors”.

Clyburn, CBC – Missus Pelosi and the Dems think you’re gettin’ a lil’ uppity. They let you in with the understanding that you know your station. Don’t you appreciate it?

IronDioPriest on November 16, 2010 at 10:54 AM

And so far, Blacks have accepted their 2nd 3rd or low class position in the party.

GarandFan on November 16, 2010 at 10:48 AM

right2bright on November 16, 2010 at 10:54 AM

Nancy can tearfully remember when this type prejudice and social upheaval happened in SF back in the 70′s. It really chokes her up.

Better double check those metal detectors Nan, you never know what kind of lunatic might be roaming the halls of congress.

Actually that doesn’t exclude much hall traffic in DC.

ontherocks on November 16, 2010 at 10:58 AM

There are probably a lot of members who would like to see Pelosi knocked down a peg, but I don’t think the majority of them have the gumption to make it happen. She scares them.

scalleywag on November 16, 2010 at 11:10 AM

Don’t you get it Clyburn? Dems just use blacks for political gain. Your just a pawn. Just shut up and keep voting 90% in lockstep.

Hummer53 on November 16, 2010 at 11:19 AM

Assistant “to the” leader. Get it right!

A little Office humor.

jeffn21 on November 16, 2010 at 11:21 AM

And they say don’t listen to Rush!

ohiobabe on November 16, 2010 at 11:28 AM

Sorry,should be ‘they say they don’t listen to Rush’.

ohiobabe on November 16, 2010 at 11:29 AM

Congress is worse than high school with their little cliques and backbiting. It’s frightening that these adult-aged children have real power in the world.

AScott on November 16, 2010 at 11:36 AM

Get the popcorn. This is going to be fun

ConservativePartyNow on November 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM

Oh goody!Please pass the popcorn.

Despite the failed to materialized friction caused by the TEA party to the GOP, as we have seen coalesced uniting on the earmark issue, watching the two greivance constituentcies of the CBCers against the nazi-feministsshould be joyous fun indeed.

That said, after readining Inhofe’s piece about earmaks over at NRO (http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/253159/eliminating-earmarks-phony-issue-james-m-inhofe?sms_ss=twitter&at_xt=4ce12b697c0f502a,0) I’m leaning in favor of his position that it’s a mistake. Oh well, as an opening gesture the symbolism may trump the substance this time. Bam-bam only has 2years to take advantage of it and the creds garnered with the electorate will only help going into ’12.

Archimedes on November 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM

James Clyburn = Nat Turner?

TugboatPhil on November 16, 2010 at 11:49 AM

Hey, the popcorn sure is good…

tinkerthinker on November 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM

Rangel guilty of ethics charges….
Lock that criminal up and throw away the keys.

Keemo on November 16, 2010 at 11:59 AM

Meh. This is just posturing. They’ll support her in the end… they’re just trying to milk the moment and get as many perks for Clyburn while the iron is hot.

mankai on November 16, 2010 at 9:39 AM

This.

Gang-of-One on November 16, 2010 at 12:30 PM

The Black Caucus is a disgrace, and there shouldn`t be any special caucusing allowed in a Govt elected by the people. They are just an obvious Racist group, as bad as the NAACP. And to top it all, Clybern can hardly speak English, and he is there because of seniority only, not talent. But then again, South Carolina made the criminal/illiterate Green their nomination in the Democratic primary this year. Can you imagine the uproar if a white caucus was proposed???

HAGGS99 on November 16, 2010 at 12:30 PM

And is it just me, or is anyone else tired of this “Black Separatist” crap?

Alabama Infidel on November 16, 2010 at 9:52 AM

It’s not just you. I’m of the mind that joining such a movement should be a crime, and those convicted should be kicked out of a plane 10,000 feet over Zimbabwe with a parachute.

A nation that doesn’t smash such groups is akin to letting people run around a subway with bricks of C4.

Dark-Star on November 16, 2010 at 12:55 PM

And so far, Blacks have accepted their 2nd class position in the party.

GarandFan on November 16, 2010 at 10:48 AM

Every time they vote ‘D’, blacks apparently agree with the Democrat mindset that blacks/minorities are inferior. It’s fundamental to their platform with regards to minorities – “you are inferior and simply cannot succeed without help.”

Why minorities aren’t more incensed at Democrats’ glaring racism, I’ll never understand.

Midas on November 16, 2010 at 12:56 PM

The true fecklessness of our Congress is evident in that they allow an organiztion that practices racial segregation to exist in our National government…This is completely against the teachings of Dr King…The CBC should be disbanded.

Nozzle on November 16, 2010 at 1:11 PM

C’mon, Dems, settle this thing honorably — pistols at dawn. If you don’t own any, I’m sure there are plenty of people who’d be willing to lend you a couple.

I bet popcorn futures are going through the roof.

cthulhu on November 16, 2010 at 1:38 PM

This is about NEXT years CBC. With Col. West(R) and Tim Scott(R) joining the CBC, I wonder what role the CBC will have in the Democratic party? Obviously, the CBC CANNOT commit all of it’s votes for leadership of the Democratic party any more than it can the Republican party.

Will there be a new CBDC and a CBRC?

Freddy on November 16, 2010 at 4:29 PM

He’s the assistant ‘too’ the regional manager, not the assistant regional manager.

lwssdd on November 16, 2010 at 10:19 PM