Palin’s freshman orientation session offers a key piece of advice

posted at 11:00 am on November 13, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

With dozens of freshman Republicans heading to Washington DC in the next few days, advice will be in large supply as they prepare for the transition from campaigning to governing.  Tea Party activists sent them to the Beltway with clear mandates on spending, debt, and checking the growth of government, but Americans have seen what often happens when Mr. and Mrs. Smith go to Washington.   A curious case of Congressitis sets in, where suddenly the potential power of their office overwhelms the sensibilities that got them elected in the first place.

Sarah Palin has been there and seen it first hand.  In an open letter to the freshman class, Palin offers the policy syllabus so familiar to those in and around the Tea Party movement: stop ObamaCare, cut spending, shrink government, enforce the borders, and strengthen national security.  Palin lays all of these goals out well, but her advice at the end about the distractions that will push the newly-elected from their path is perhaps the most important part of her letter, and should be required reading for every Republican on Capitol Hill:

Remember that some in the media will love you when you stray from the time-tested truths that built America into the most exceptional nation on earth. When the Left in the media pat you on the back, quickly reassess where you are and readjust, for the liberals’ praise is a warning bell you must heed. Trust me on that.

A few years ago, I had the opportunity to spend an evening with Clarence Thomas when he released his memoirs, My Grandfather’s Son, while in the company of other conservative journalists at the Heritage Foundation.  I asked Justice Thomas about this very phenomenon as it applies to the Supreme Court, and while he declined Bill Kristol’s encouragement to get very specific in his answer, Justice Thomas diagnosed the problem perfectly for all Beltway denizens:

He got perhaps his biggest laugh when answering one of my questions. I had asked him if he agreed that some justices have “grown” on the bench, without being specific, although Kristol encouraged him to get very specific. Thomas demurred on the specificity, but took some time to give a thoughtful answer. He agreed that the phenomenon exists, and that he sees it as a pressure of incentives and disincentives. Some justices worried about how law schools and other elites will perceive them, and begin to develop opinions with an eye to prestigious invitations and awards — and the punishing lack of same if they do not evolve towards the accepted wisdom of academics. “I wouldn’t get an invitation from Columbia University unless I was a Middle East dictator with nuclear weapons,” he gave as an example, again with his trademark booming laugh.

With that in mind, the freshman class should steel themselves that getting the job done right will mean few plaudits in the media in the short run, even fewer speaking invitations, and no medals or plaques from lobbyists and Academia.  Their reward will be a more secure, less indebted, and fiscally restored United States of America, and the gratitude of a nation in the long run for restoring sanity and accountability.  And frankly, that should be enough.


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Oh, I so agree. Plus, it’s a funny touchstone. Everytime I hear a wannabe presidential candidate comment, they invariably start off by talking about how they have to do their duty to their states, yadda, yadda.

:)

AnninCA on November 14, 2010 at 9:57 AM

What is your duty to your state? To stay in office at any expense to your agenda, your state, and yourself, or to remove yourself as a bone of contention and get your agenda through?

Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on November 14, 2010 at 10:05 AM

1st, way too many women will not vote for another woman.

I really don’t agree. Obama had trouble with women after the primaries. The Dem women, and particularly those who have moved right and abandoned him, were absolutely hugely behind Hillary.

But then, she hit that sweet spot in the center, appealling to liberal women as well as pocket-book voters.

So, I don’t agree that this is a gender issue.

I think it’s a style issue. She’s an incredibly effective leader, but her discussion of issues hasn’t impressed many in 2 years, frankly. She really does oversimplify and repeat too often.

Wallace is right when he nips at her for not keeping her answers shorter. I don’t mind long answers, but don’t repeat.

AnninCA on November 14, 2010 at 10:06 AM

So, I don’t agree that this is a gender issue.

AnninCA on November 14, 2010 at 10:06 AM

There is a catty and jealously factor. It may not be large, but it’s there. Kathleen Parker falls in that group.

darwin on November 14, 2010 at 10:11 AM

What is your duty to your state? To stay in office at any expense to your agenda, your state, and yourself, or to remove yourself as a bone of contention and get your agenda through?

Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on November 14, 2010 at 10:05 AM

Don’t misunderstand. I got it the day she announced. And the latest Alaskan election truly is instructive, if you follow the sub-plots.

Alaska is a small population, so things are still sort of like the 1950’s politically speaking. A blogger can honestly get traction there, still.

It was obvious to me what was going on.

AnninCA on November 14, 2010 at 10:13 AM

There is a catty and jealously factor. It may not be large, but it’s there. Kathleen Parker falls in that group.

darwin on November 14, 2010 at 10:11 AM

I suppose. Ann Coulter talks about that factor. I think women often want to jump on successful women, out of principle, I guess. LOL* I was successful in my career and felt horribly hurt by that stuff for way too many years than I care to admit.

But you really do get over it, finally, and start to trust yourself. Success works to push most women over the hump.

I personally liked Jon Stewart’s point. You put yourself on the line, do anything that is tangible, then expect others to criticize from the sidelines. That’s the game.

But the other way of life is awfully confining, too.

Women will vote for Sarah if they don’t give a rat’s ass about what others think. And the independents who want a more centrist position wouldn’t really go for her politics anyway.

I don’t think gender will play a huge factor, other than we’ll see the sexism in the strategies to defeat her. Rove is an expert on using that subtly and not so subtly.

AnninCA on November 14, 2010 at 10:17 AM

AnninCA on November 14, 2010 at 10:13 AM

No problem. Just elaborating. The deliberate stupidity of the the “quitter” meme just drives me fisking nuts.

Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on November 14, 2010 at 10:27 AM

No problem. Just elaborating. The deliberate stupidity of the the “quitter” meme just drives me fisking nuts.

Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on November 14, 2010 at 10:27 AM

Her choice was unique, outside of norms and, therefore, subject to easy attack. That’s all I meant. Her challengers from the GOP side never fail to bring it up.

Meanwhile, we all know they would do the same in a heartbeat if they really thought it would work. Obama’s method was to keep the seat but never show up. That’s actually the more normal method.

But then, he didn’t have a bunch of snowed-in bloggers dreaming up ways to cost him money with lawsuits either. *haha

AnninCA on November 14, 2010 at 10:41 AM

The deliberate stupidity of the the “quitter” meme just drives me fisking nuts.

Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on November 14, 2010 at 10:27 AM

Likewise. But there is a design behind the “stupidity,” and it often works. It is The Big Lie. A concerted, sustained “meme” of slander can work. “Bush lied, people died” worked, at least in the short-to-medium term. But that’s all a leftist cares about. The response must be equally sustained and relentless, and best framed as challenges and questions. The problem is, the Right doesn’t generally seem equipped with the same aggression or pugnacity as the Left. We better get it. Rebut, refute, challenge, harass.

rrpjr on November 14, 2010 at 10:52 AM

Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on November 14, 2010 at 10:27 AM
Likewise. But there is a design behind the “stupidity,” and it often works. It is The Big Lie. A concerted, sustained “meme” of slander can work. “Bush lied, people died” worked, at least in the short-to-medium term. But that’s all a leftist cares about. The response must be equally sustained and relentless, and best framed as challenges and questions. The problem is, the Right doesn’t generally seem equipped with the same aggression or pugnacity as the Left. We better get it. Rebut, refute, challenge, harass.

rrpjr on November 14, 2010 at 10:52 AM

No, I think that we all have to stop giving power over to this tactic.

I think we either trust people, real people, to discern, or the entire debate is mute.

AnninCA on November 14, 2010 at 12:50 PM

the next speaker of the house retweeted Palin’s letter to the all GOP house members. Maybe there is hope that they get it this time.

unseen on November 14, 2010 at 8:36 AM

Correct

GOPLeader RT @SarahPalinUSA: An Open Letter to Republican Freshmen Members of Congress… read: http://is.gd/gZEkI
9:39 AM Nov 13th via Twitter for BlackBerry®

SgtSVJones on November 14, 2010 at 1:11 PM

AnninCA on November 14, 2010 at 12:50 PM

And how did that work for George Bush?

In fact I believe the two strategies are not incompatible. We can maintain our faith in the people’s ability to discern, but we must also provide them with argumentative lineaments that make discernment, judgment, possible and clear. You cannot compete against the Left when people are only given a choice between lies on one hand and Ghandi-esque faith in their discernment on the other. Robustly — even aggressively and pugnaciously — refuting slander and challenging lies is not “giving power to a tactic”, it is survival. Against the Left, it is indispensable.

One example. The Left just widely and slanderously misrepresented Eric Cantor’s trip to Israel. How does one respond? With a polite press release? An abiding hope that the people will ultimately discern the truth? When and how will this “discernment” occur? No — you hit them as hard as they hit you, and immediately. You, or we, have a big advantage: the truth. But the truth needs a fighting chance to be heard. And liars deserve to be held accountable for their lies. This idea that we have to become like the Left to fight the Left (the old Nietzschian caution) is ridiculous. But we have to fight as hard as they do. Then we can be satisfied that the rest of us will discern the difference.

rrpjr on November 14, 2010 at 1:46 PM

Perhaps the Tea partiers can point out where in the constitution where marching orders for incoming elected representatives come from outside ex-governors….

That’s our Sarah. Always looking for an opportunity to get noticed.

Bradky on November 14, 2010 at 2:23 PM

Perhaps the Tea partiers can point out where in the constitution where marching orders for incoming elected representatives come from outside ex-governors….

Bradky on November 14, 2010 at 2:23 PM

Perhaps you can point out where it’s forbidden. They don’t have to listen.

ddrintn on November 14, 2010 at 3:11 PM

^ By the way,

That’s our Sarah. Always looking for an opportunity to get noticed.

Bradky on November 14, 2010 at 2:23 PM

And in your case, it always seems to work like a charm. Weird, huh.

ddrintn on November 14, 2010 at 3:16 PM

RE:Sonosam

Alaska was ungovernable with it’s ethics laws combined with scum dems

She shouldn’t have worked to get elected to run it then. Alaska was working before, it seems to be running now.

they had no problem stagnating the state government at the cost to millions of Alaskans yet you continue with the “quitter” logic

Don’t you think they would do that on the federal level? What will be the excuse then?

you are a flea

You are an idiot.

Boxy_Brown on November 14, 2010 at 3:19 PM

RE:tencole

Why is it okay for “Christie 2012″ or “Rubio 2012″ et all, to quit thier elected positions to pursue something else, but Sarah is a terrible person and non electable for “quitting” hers.

A higher elected office you mean? LOL, When were they driven out of office by the democrats?

Boxy_Brown on November 14, 2010 at 3:22 PM

What happened to Boxy? I guess its shift is up…

CCRWM on November 13

It’s called “a life”, get one.

Boxy_Brown on November 14, 2010 at 3:24 PM

“She quit her job”…is sooo yesterday…is that all you got?
tencole on November 13, 2010 at 8:26 PM

It keeps getting repeated because, yes, it is all they’ve got.

OK, she blew the press interviews when she was VP candidate and became the punchline for the democrats and the media who made her look completely ridiculous. (Unfair I know, but politics life is unfair.) She -quit- the job she was elected to and went home. She went to bat for Christie O’Donnell and capriciously and (and this ought to set off the cultists) stupidly handed a Senate seat to the bearded marxist…. really, that’s all I need to say no thanks.

Boxy_Brown on November 14, 2010 at 3:30 PM

OK, she blew the press interviews when she was VP candidate

And Jindal’s first national appearance was giving a less-than-stellar reply to an Obama speech. Are you going to hold that against him in perpetuity? Nahhhhhh.

and became the punchline for the democrats and the media who made her look completely ridiculous.

Oh, that was the plan from August 29 2008. .

She went to bat for Christie O’Donnell and capriciously and (and this ought to set off the cultists) stupidly handed a Senate seat to the bearded marxist…. really, that’s all I need to say no thanks.

Boxy_Brown on November 14, 2010 at 3:30 PM

Let’s see… she also went to bat for Rand Paul and Marco Rubio and Nikki Haley among others. And she went to bat against ObamaCare, pretty effectively.

ddrintn on November 14, 2010 at 3:38 PM

ddrintn on November 14, 2010 at 3:38 PM

Good effort but it’s futile. You’re dealing with a meme imbiber.

rrpjr on November 14, 2010 at 3:46 PM

RE:Random Numbers (Brian Epps)

He has run a big, bureaucratic business.

As opposed to nothing.

He has no clue on start-ups, small business, or the free market.

You don’t build and run a fortune 500 company and not have a clue as to how business runs.

He does, however, have experience in hiring lobbyists to regulate the competition away.

And that disqualifies him?

“So you would have stayed in office and put all other state business aside to save your personal a$$. Figures, coward.”

What do you want to bet you wouldn’t call me a “coward” to my face? Doesn’t that make you cowardly? In my book it does. Regardless, it’s amazing how you can rationalize quitting and taking your bat and your ball and going home as courageous. You are like a little child being told there isn’t an Easter bunny and your in denial. Leaders overcome these challenges, quitters go home.

“Besides, do the words “ex post facto” ring a bell?”

Why did she run for office if she couldn’t live by the laws that were in place? What laws are in place that she can’t live with now I wonder? Don’t you think people will be asking themselves this? (outside the echo chamber of course.)

“You reach a point of diminishing returns very quickly.”

Excuses.

“Are you this friggin’ ignorant or do you just act that way on the internet? “

It’s fun watching you have a tantrum. Shake your fist harder Brian, I am not going to contribute to your diva, so hold your breath. I think she would be a bad president who wouldn’t get anything done, so soil yourself.

“Alaska’s law doesn’t allow the Governor to use state attorneys for defense on ethics charges”

Why hasn’t the new governor resigned? Lets say that is correct (not my reading on the law, but for the sake of argument) Why not have you and some of the other devoted followers here start a legal fund? You see, Leaders over come these things.
Compared to what this country is facing, a bunch of smarmy democrats in Anchorage are not that big a challenge.

“So you are stupid as well as a coward. “

Poor baby, someone had bad thoughts about Palin.

“Who the heck was ADJUDICATING those complaints?”

So I guess she had access to legal help after all. Maybe she just needed a vacation.

“Idiot. “

Hysterical crybaby.

“So how about something more specific.”

Start by not abandoning your responsibilities and quitting the job that you were given.

“You have no solution”

Stick with the state council and raise money for a defense fund. You have some disposable cash I would bet. Go upstairs and ask for your allowance.

“You have demonstrated that you are either not serious or too empty-headed to be worth arguing with”

And you have demonstrated, EXACTLY, why I and others are fed to the teeth with this kind of imbecilic, bandwagon hopping, cultist, infantile behavior. You can’t reason or argue the facts, you certainly can’t persuade, so you lash out like a petulant child in need of a back-hand. Anyone who thinks that she is a bad idea is subjected to a raft of BS, anyone who recognized that the whole O’Donnell affair was STUPID gets called every name in the book. Sorry, the thing is I am actually not a “coward” and will not be screamed onto the same bandwagon that you ride on. If you ever want to push this ninny over the finish line you are going to need to get others to join you. Not being a shrill little child might be a good tactic.

Boxy_Brown on November 14, 2010 at 4:04 PM

gary4205

OF COURSE the people voted for her “second in command.” He’s called the Lt Governor.

Did the Lt Governor quit as well?

Idiot.

Cultist.

As to her “quitting”:Virtue and Sarah Palin

So all you have to do is get the majority of the American electorate to think just like Claude Sandroff…

Boxy_Brown on November 14, 2010 at 4:08 PM

Re.ddrintn

And Jindal’s first national appearance was giving a less-than-stellar reply to an Obama speech. Are you going to hold that against him in perpetuity? Nahhhhhh.

Probably not, one of the reasons why is that he has the ability to mock himself and recognize that he blew it.

Oh, that was the plan from August 29 2008.

So why give them what they want?

Let’s see… she also went to bat for Rand Paul and Marco Rubio and Nikki Haley among others.

(among others) yes, and they were effective candidates in their own right who stood a chance of getting elected.

Boxy_Brown on November 14, 2010 at 4:16 PM

You don’t build and run a fortune 500 company and not have a clue as to how business runs.

The U.S.A. isn’t a business and the federal government should have no influence over the economy except to promote Liberty so that capitalism and free enterprise can flourish.
The POTUS doesn’t have to be and probably shouldn’t be a CEO.
Mittens was a lousy Governor, unlike Sarah Palin.

Why did she run for office if she couldn’t live by the laws that were in place?

It wasn’t a problem until she was chosen as McCain’s VP and targeted by the Left and Obama.

I think she would be a bad president who wouldn’t get anything done, so soil yourself.

She was a wonderful Governor who got alot done and who accomplished everything she wanted to do when she ran as Governor, including negotiating a $40 BILLION oil and gas pipeline contract with the Canadians that her predecessors in office had not been successful in doing.
Check her record.

Why hasn’t the new governor resigned?

Because Parnell isn’t a political target like Sarah.
Very simple, really.

Why not have you and some of the other devoted followers here start a legal fund?

*buzzer*
Sarah has a legal fund.
Please feel free to give as much as you can to it!

Start by not abandoning your responsibilities and quitting the job that you were given.

She didn’t. She resigned (Note: not “quit”) and left the state in Lt. Parnell’s able hands.

And you have demonstrated, EXACTLY, why I and others are fed to the teeth with this kind of imbecilic, bandwagon hopping, cultist, infantile behavior.
Boxy_Brown on November 14, 2010 at 4:04 PM

And we’re fed up the back teeth with your trolling and ad hominems!
Your comments are the ones that are imbecilic and infantile.
Look in the mirror!

Jenfidel on November 14, 2010 at 4:21 PM

Sheesh – some of you have spent w-a-y too much time feeding the troll. /

katiejane on November 14, 2010 at 4:22 PM

RE.Jenfidel

…the federal government should have no influence over the economy except to promote Liberty so that capitalism and free enterprise can flourish.

LOL. What about opening foreign markets to US products? Or stopping countries that we trad with from undervaluing it’s currency? Or insisting that we keep the petro dollar? Or a billion other details that the US government has to look out for? (and doesn’t)

The POTUS doesn’t have to be and probably shouldn’t be a CEO.

Shouldn’t we have someone who knows something about earning money rather then just spending it?

Mittens was a lousy Governor, unlike Sarah Palin.

Was mittens chased off?

It wasn’t a problem until she was chosen as McCain’s VP and targeted by the Left and Obama.

That isn’t true, there were ethics charges before she was chosen to be the VP.

She was a wonderful Governor

That is debatable.

Because Parnell isn’t a political target like Sarah.

So why was she such a target and he isn’t?

Why not have you and some of the other devoted followers here start a legal fund?
*buzzer*
Sarah has a legal fund.

Yes, I know, I was trying to draw Mr.Epps out, instead he just held his breath and shook. The point was that she had alternatives to resigning that I believe she should have taken.

She didn’t. She resigned (Note: not “quit”) and left the state in Lt. Parnell’s able hands.

So We had better make sure she runs with a really terrific VP? Look, do you really think you can sell this on a national scale?

And we’re fed up the back teeth with your trolling and ad hominems!

If you will look back you will see that I have endeavored to give back what I have received. If you are going to sell people on this woman you are going to need to come up with articulate answers to things that she has done are troubling, and rightfully so in my opinion. The whole “having a fit because someone isn’t on board with St.Sarah” thing wont work too well out side of hotair.

Boxy_Brown on November 14, 2010 at 4:39 PM

(among others) yes, and they were effective candidates in their own right who stood a chance of getting elected.

Boxy_Brown on November 14, 2010 at 4:16 PM

Uh-huh. I think Haley was in something like 4th place before Palin’s endorsement. But I see the game. If Palin endorses them and they win, then they would’ve won all along. If Palin endorses them and they lose, it’s all Palin’s fault for being so stupid as to endorse someone who’s unelectable. Gotcha.

ddrintn on November 14, 2010 at 4:56 PM

LOL. What about opening foreign markets to US products? Or stopping countries that we trad with from undervaluing it’s currency? Or insisting that we keep the petro dollar? Or a billion other details that the US government has to look out for? (and doesn’t)

Virtually all of this isn’t for the “U.S. government to look out for,” but the private market/sector.
The Feds, usually in the form of Congress, should make as little legislation as possible to keep free trade, free, including currency regulation.
(Oh, and we need to get rid of the Federal Reserve, which is un-Constitutional anyway.)
I have no idea what you’re babbling about in regards to the “petro dollar.”

Shouldn’t we have someone who knows something about earning money rather then just spending it?

Well, that would be Sarah and not 0bama or Mittens.
Mitt’s money is either inherited or put together with sweetheart deals from his Mormon friends.

Was mittens chased off?

Well, they don’t miss him.
And he didn’t leave the state better off than he found it, unlike she did.

That isn’t true, there were ethics charges before she was chosen to be the VP.

No, there were not.

She was a wonderful Governor

That is debatable.

She has quite a record of accomplishments as Governor–it is verifiable, as is Mitt’s lackluster record as MA Governor.

So why was she such a target and he isn’t?

Because she became a national public figure and an exciting one when McCain gave her the nod as his running mate.
The Left knows what a threat she poses, then and now.

Yes, I know, I was trying to draw Mr.Epps out, instead he just held his breath and shook. The point was that she had alternatives to resigning that I believe she should have taken.

Like what?
I don’t agree and neither does Sarah or she would have taken them.

So We had better make sure she runs with a really terrific VP? Look, do you really think you can sell this on a national scale?

She’s doing it now or haven’t you noticed?
BTW, she won’t need to resign as POTUS because the office of the President is protected from such legal actions.

If you will look back you will see that I have endeavored to give back what I have received. If you are going to sell people on this woman you are going to need to come up with articulate answers to things that she has done are troubling, and rightfully so in my opinion.
Boxy_Brown on November 14, 2010 at 4:39 PM

One never responds in kind when it comes to ad hominems (gary, this goes for you, too!)–it means you’ve already lost the argument or have no argument.
I and several others here have tried to give you articulate answers to your rather vapid and tiresome trollings.
Really, you Palin concern trolls are going to have to do a whole better by way of substantive criticism of her than “She’s a quitter.” and “but…but…but.. she supported Christine O’Donnell.”

Let me also add that you’ve blatantly hijacked the thread and haven’t really made one single comment about the story this thread is supposed to be about.

Jenfidel on November 14, 2010 at 5:02 PM

Why hasn’t the new governor resigned?

Um, let’s see…could it be because he’s not the target that Palin was? Duuuuuuuuh, could be…

Compared to what this country is facing, a bunch of smarmy democrats in Anchorage are not that big a challenge.

Boxy_Brown on November 14, 2010 at 4:04 PM

Ooooooh, I think I smell a Mittbot…

ddrintn on November 14, 2010 at 5:04 PM

Let me also add that you’ve blatantly hijacked the thread and haven’t really made one single comment about the story this thread is supposed to be about.

Jenfidel on November 14, 2010 at 5:02 PM

Mission accomplished. “Hey, look over there!”

ddrintn on November 14, 2010 at 5:24 PM

What kills me about the trolls it is always the same boring crap every place I lurk they say the same crap over and over and over. They never have nothing ever new. They always have to hi jack a thread too.

djohn669 on November 14, 2010 at 5:24 PM

Re.ddrintn

Uh-huh. I think Haley was in something like 4th place before Palin’s endorsement.

And then an obvious gay democrat fellow claimed he had an affair with her… Much hilarity ensued.

But I see the game. If Palin endorses them and they win, then they would’ve won all along.

O’Donnell was a huge mistake.

“Um, let’s see…could it be because he’s not the target that Palin was?”
So he is less polarizing… Got it.

I think I smell a Mittbot…

Nope. Undecided and not thrilled.

Boxy_Brown on November 14, 2010 at 5:27 PM

Boxy_Brown on November 14, 2010 at 5:27 PM

Did you have a point? Because I can’t find one.

Sarah wrote this letter to the new Freshmen Congresspeople, more than 2 dozen of whom she helped win their seats, like Allen West, Renee Ellmers and Tim Scott.
Were they “mistakes,” too, BB?
All in all, 52 of the Constitutional conservative Republicans Sarah endorsed won their races on Nov. 2…and yet you have to focus on Christine O’Donnell and not new NH’s new and wonderful Senator-elect Kelly Ayotte.

Jenfidel on November 14, 2010 at 5:36 PM

RE;Jenfidel

Virtually all of this isn’t for the “U.S. government to look out for,” but the private market/sector.

So the private sector signs international treaties?

The Feds, usually in the form of Congress, should make as little legislation as possible to keep free trade, free, including currency regulation.

So when China deliberately devalues it’s currency to boost exports what is Ford supposed to do?

(Oh, and we need to get rid of the Federal Reserve, which is un-Constitutional anyway.)

So you made a lateral shift from Ron Paul to Sarah Palin… We are stuck with fiat currency for the foreseeable future.

I have no idea what you’re babbling about in regards to the “petro dollar.”

I must have just made it up…

Well, that would be Sarah and not 0bama or Mittens.

What company has she run.

Well, they don’t miss him.
And he didn’t leave the state better off than he found it, unlike she did.

Are you in Alaska? It seems like Alaskans were pretty willing to ignore her and vote Merkowski.

No, there were not.

I recall McCains nomination committee acknowledging them.

She has quite a record of accomplishments as Governor–it is verifiable, as is Mitt’s lackluster record as MA Governor.

LOL. Again, that is debatable.

Like what?

Like using her star power to get her devoted followers to contribute to her legal defense. I’m sure you would have been good for a buck or 2.

I don’t agree and neither does Sarah or she would have taken them.

You speak for her now?

She’s doing it now or haven’t you noticed?

54% disapproval.

BTW, she won’t need to resign as POTUS because the office of the President is protected from such legal actions.

Just ask Clinton.

One never responds in kind when it comes to ad hominems

Probably a good policy, but you see, I’m a bit sick of the bullying that goes on when someone has the audacity to have what i see as a very legitimate disagreement. At the very least, it isn’t going to get you to where you want to go.

I and several others here have tried to give you articulate answers to your rather vapid and tiresome trollings.

Really. So writing what I have written off as “vapid and tiresome trolling” is an articulate answer.

you Palin concern trolls are going to have to do a whole better by way of substantive criticism of her than “She’s a quitter.”

Well no, You are the one trying to get her elected. You need to persuade others outside the echo chamber. Calling them trolls isn’t going to do it.

and “but…but…but.. she supported Christine O’Donnell.”

It was still stupid to do so. And irresponsible to say Coons would have won anyway. (it could even be called a “lie”)

Let me also add that you’ve blatantly hijacked the thread

Just answering the toadies.

Boxy_Brown on November 14, 2010 at 5:56 PM

Sarah wrote this letter to the new Freshmen Congresspeople…
Jenfidel on November 14, 2010 at 5:36 PM

YAY for Sarah! She posted a letter on facebook! (the only acceptable response evidently)

Boxy_Brown on November 14, 2010 at 5:59 PM

YAY for Sarah! She posted a letter on facebook! (the only acceptable response evidently)

Boxy_Brown on November 14, 2010 at 5:59 PM

Her FB Notes get noticed and reprinted by the world press and are responded to even the White House and 0bama (“death panels”).
She has over 2 MILLION Friends on FB.
She also got this Re-Tweeted by John Boehner, the future Speaker of the House.
Apparently, you and the other trolls in your snarl are the only ones who choose to ignore it.

Jenfidel on November 14, 2010 at 6:09 PM

She has over 2 MILLION Friends on FB.

LOL, If that is a metric of good governance our next president should be Lady Gaga.

Boxy_Brown on November 14, 2010 at 6:19 PM

So the private sector signs international treaties?

Nope, that would be the Senate, but it shouldn’t take treaties to make international trade happen.

So when China deliberately devalues it’s currency to boost exports what is Ford supposed to do?

Make and sell cars–Ford isn’t in the currency valuation business (at least they shouldn’t be…).
BTW, our Fed just devalued our currency, too.

So you made a lateral shift from Ron Paul to Sarah Palin… We are stuck with fiat currency for the foreseeable future.

I don’t like Ron Paul, but he’s right about the Fed.
Most conservatives feel the same way I do, including Sarah Palin whose FB Note about QE2 was the only conservative voice against it.
QE2 is a disaster.

I must have just made it up…

No doubt.

What company has she run.

She ran a city and a state and the AK Oil and Gas Commission and she’s worked as a commercial fisherman.

Are you in Alaska? It seems like Alaskans were pretty willing to ignore her and vote Merkowski.

The Miller-Murkowski race is only tangential to Palin’s political career.
Sarah’s not on the ballot.
And you obviously know Jack Squat about her record in public service: Hie thyself to Conservatives4Palin.com!

Like using her star power to get her devoted followers to contribute to her legal defense. I’m sure you would have been good for a buck or 2.

I don’t regard her as a “star,” but as a stateswoman and a leader for conservative Constitutional government with the record to prove it.
She stands for the same values, principles and ideals that I stand for.
When the Left goes after her, they’re virtually going after to me, too.
That answer your question?

You speak for her now?

She wouldn’t have resigned if there remained “other alternatives” short of resignation.
I trust her judgment.

Just ask Clinton.

The Paula Jones case was for something he did before he was President, hence it wasn’t accorded executive protection, although I think Slick Willie did try to use that excuse.

Probably a good policy, but you see, I’m a bit sick of the bullying that goes on when someone has the audacity to have what i see as a very legitimate disagreement. At the very least, it isn’t going to get you to where you want to go.

This would never be true or justified, even if you had a “very legitimate disagreement,” which, in fact, you do not.

Really. So writing what I have written off as “vapid and tiresome trolling” is an articulate answer.

Uh, yes, it is.

Well no, You are the one trying to get her elected. You need to persuade others outside the echo chamber. Calling them trolls isn’t going to do it.

I don’t know that you could call it “getting her elected.”
What we are trying to do is to get rational, reasoned citizens to take her seriously on her merits and no subject her to the ridiculous, superficial attacks on her character led by the Leftist MSM, which is what you are doing.

It was still stupid to do so. And irresponsible to say Coons would have won anyway. (it could even be called a “lie”)

As Liberal as Castle was, it wouldn’t have mattered if Coons or Castle had won.
If Castle would vote for cap and tax, there’s no telling what else on the Liberal agenda he wouldn’t support.

Just answering the toadies.

Boxy_Brown on November 14, 2010 at 5:56 PM

Answering the toadies isn’t your “job” here.
Commenting on the article is.
Ad hominems are both against HA’s TOS, bad argument and finally, just plain rude and obnoxious.
You have no one but yourself to blame if you come across as a Palin-hating, thread-hijacking troll.

Jenfidel on November 14, 2010 at 6:26 PM

YAY for Sarah! She posted a letter on facebook! (the only acceptable response evidently)

Boxy_Brown on November 14, 2010 at 5:59 PM

So what? Her friggin’ tweets get more attention than NYT editorials or most of the MSNBC broadcast day.

ddrintn on November 14, 2010 at 7:07 PM

but it shouldn’t take treaties to make international trade happen.

The government has a place on helping US companies be competitive in foreign marketplaces. Having a president whose name hasn’t most often been heard as a punchliine can only help that process.

Make and sell cars–Ford isn’t in the currency valuation business (at least they shouldn’t be…).

That was my point.

including Sarah Palin whose FB Note about QE2 was the only conservative voice against it.

Yes, that facebook posting was the only stand anyone has taken against quantitative easing… Oh wait, that’s hogwash.

No doubt.

Well no, actually, I didn’t make it up, you have some Googeling to do.

She ran a city and a state and the AK Oil and Gas Commission and she’s worked as a commercial fisherman.

So she hasn’t run a company.

The Miller-Murkowski race is only tangential to Palin’s political career.

It shows alaskans, whom she supposedly did this incredible job for, are pretty willing to ignore what she repeatedly asked them to do.

Hie thyself to Conservatives4Palin.com!

For completely un-slanted information no doubt.

I don’t regard her as a “star,”

Deity?

“When the Left goes after her, they’re virtually going after to me, too.”

Well then, you should have contributed to her legal defense fund. It’s officially kind of creepy how slavish you are. This can only end in a restraining order.

That answer your question?

Not about living in Alaska.

She wouldn’t have resigned if there remained “other alternatives” short of resignation.

I just pointed one out to you, so there were alternatives.

I trust her judgment.

I did, but not after O’Donnell.

The Paula Jones case was for something he did before he was President, hence it wasn’t accorded executive protection,

So she should only be in office if she is afforded executive protection from prosecution… That will fly well, good luck with that meme.

This would never be true or justified, even if you had a “very legitimate disagreement,” which, in fact, you do not.

So any disagreement with your deity is automatically invalid. Yeah, good luck pushing that was well.

Uh, yes, it is.

Well no, it’s insolent and stupid. It isn’t going to get people on board the Palin express, it is going to make them think you are a cultist who is in a snit because someone else has a principled disagreement with her work history and choices.

What we are trying to do is to get rational, reasoned citizens to take her seriously on her merits and no subject her to the ridiculous, superficial attacks on her character led by the Leftist MSM, which is what you are doing.

I can assure you I am not a leftist, nor do I work for the “MSM”. So you are wrong. And invalidating what I have to say as “trolling” or whatever is not a substantive answer, which is what you are going to need to come up with to persuade people. In short, being obnoxious isn’t selling me on this person.

As Liberal as Castle was, it wouldn’t have mattered if Coons or Castle had won.

He would have caucused with the GOP, so you are wrong. He also would have kept out a bearded Marxist, so you are wrong.

Answering the toadies isn’t your “job” here.
Commenting on the article is.

It isn’t your place to tell me what i can and can not say.

Ad hominems are both against HA’s TOS, bad argument and finally, just plain rude and obnoxious.

Do try and observe the TOS then.

You have no one but yourself to blame if you come across as a Palin-hating, thread-hijacking troll.

I could be sweetness and light, and still run afoul of the palin cult by having the audacity to point out that she has made some bad choices and then been incapable of admitting that she was something less then completely correct.
Oh well, I guess I don’t need your approval.

Boxy_Brown on November 14, 2010 at 7:10 PM

So what? Her friggin’ tweets get more attention than NYT editorials or most of the MSNBC broadcast day.

ddrintn on November 14, 2010 at 7:07 PM

YAY for Sarah! She tweeted! (the only acceptable response evidently)
Better? :-D

All hail Sarah! She of the twitter account! She who bestows the facebook goodness! See, I’m one of you now.

Boxy_Brown on November 14, 2010 at 7:14 PM

The government has a place on helping US companies be competitive in foreign marketplaces.

No, it does not. Having a president whose name hasn’t most often been heard as a punchliine can only help that process.

Well, you’re clearly not talking about 0bama.

Yes, that facebook posting was the only stand anyone has taken against quantitative easing… Oh wait, that’s hogwash.

Think so? Check the WSJ editorial of last week.

So she hasn’t run a company.

No, but then, we’re not hiring a CEO of a company.
And 0bama’s never had a real job in the private sector of any kind.

It shows alaskans, whom she supposedly did this incredible job for, are pretty willing to ignore what she repeatedly asked them to do.

Not really.
Exaggerate for effect much?

For completely un-slanted information no doubt.

It can all be fact-checked and verified.

Deity?

No.
Not even close.
Sarah and I are both Bible-believing Christians.
We already have a God.

Well then, you should have contributed to her legal defense fund. It’s officially kind of creepy how slavish you are.

Of course, I did.
It’s not “slavish”–it’s what anyone does who believes in a public figure.

I just pointed one out to you, so there were alternatives.

Like what?

So she should only be in office if she is afforded executive protection from prosecution… That will fly well, good luck with that meme.

The POTUS is always afforded executive protection from prosecution–it’s called the Justice Department.

So any disagreement with your deity is automatically invalid. Yeah, good luck pushing that was well.

You’re not saying anything.
Hello?!

it is going to make them think you are a cultist who is in a snit because someone else has a principled disagreement with her work history and choices.

You don’t have a “principled disagreement.”
It’s obvious you know next to nothing about her work history and choices and you’ve shown this in post after post.

In short, being obnoxious isn’t selling me on this person.

As if you’re being obnoxious with the same, tired 2-year-old memes about Palin are selling others on hating her…!

He would have caucused with the GOP, so you are wrong. He also would have kept out a bearded Marxist, so you are wrong.
Boxy_Brown on November 14, 2010 at 7:10 PM

In order to vote for Cap and Tax, Castle had to be a shaved Marxist in RINO clothing.
I don’t think anyone could say exactly which party he’d caucus with….
“Coulda, shoulda, woulda” is for losers.
The GOP and the Tea Party had a HUGE victory at the polls on November 2.
O’Donnell wasn’t our strongest candidate and she lost, but the GOP, the Tea Party and Sarah had lots of other victories that are going to see us through for a long time.
I’m tired of dealing with you: you obviously refuse to keep your comments on topic and pertinent to the subject and even your troll whines aren’t saying anything new.
Adios, Palin concern troll!

Jenfidel on November 14, 2010 at 7:29 PM

Well, you’re clearly not talking about 0bama.

No, I am clearly not talking about Obama.

“Think so? Check the WSJ editorial of last week.”

An editorial for is not evidence of no statements against.

“No, but then, we’re not hiring a CEO of a company.

We are talking about the president of a country that currently is running trillion dollar deficits and has more debt then our GDP. (Pssst, don’t tell anyone but that essentially make our currency worthless and the monetizing of our debt is only going to accelerate the decline.) We are in serious trouble because we have elected career politicians who have no proven business acumen. So again, it would be invaluable for the USA to have someone who has run a successful business.

And 0bama’s never had a real job in the private sector of any kind.”

Obama is a national nightmare. You seem to think that if he does something that is license for you to do it as well. Obama is bankrupting the country. Obama = bad. Not something you want to cite in your argument for doing the same thing.

“Not really.Exaggerate for effect much?”

Well yes really. Otherwise there would be a Senator Miller instead of a Senator Murkwski, who did the imposable and won in a write in campaign, Despite the many interventions on Millers behalf by Palin.

“We already have a God.”

A “jealous God”, be careful or He may smite you with a restraining order for hiding in her bushes.

“The POTUS is always afforded executive protection from prosecution–”

While I agree that lessens her chances of quitting like she did in Alaska, it still doesn’t bode well for her character that she did so before.

“You’re not saying anything.
Hello?!”

Only hearing what you want to hear. Surprise.

“You don’t have a “principled disagreement.”

Writing someone else’s objections off isn’t addressing them, indeed you have only been able to parrot how awesomely awesome she has always been.

“It’s obvious you know next to nothing about her work history and choices and you’ve shown this in post after post.”

All those points you haven’t been able to address? Sorry, despite your adoration it’s obvious you know next to nothing about her work history and choices and you’ve shown this in post after post. All you seem to know is that she is wonderful and anyone who thinks she made some bad choices is the anti-Christ. That’s not the kind of thing you can put on a resume.

“As if you’re being obnoxious with the same, tired 2-year-old memes about Palin are selling others on hating her…!”

I don’t want or need for others to “hate” her you hysteric. I just don’t think she has the character or judgment to be president. I also don’t like the shrill nonsense emanating from her toadies and cultists.

“In order to vote for Cap and Tax, Castle had to be a shaved Marxist in RINO clothing.”

Where is Cap and trade going to come from if the GOP controls the house? Wrong again.

“I don’t think anyone could say exactly which party he’d caucus with….”

LOL, he was running as a republican, are you that divorced from reality?

“I’m tired of dealing with you”

Good, quit resign.

“you obviously refuse to keep your comments on topic and pertinent to the subject “

A lie that anyone can see is a lie just by looking up.

Adios, Palin concern troll!

So long creepy cult member.

Boxy_Brown on November 14, 2010 at 9:33 PM

You chumps have allowed a single troll to hijack this thread for the fast two days. Fools!

bw222 on November 14, 2010 at 10:02 PM

You chumps have allowed a single troll to hijack this thread for the fast two days. Fools!

bw222 on November 14, 2010 at 10:02 PM

Pfffft. It had run its course anyway. Might as well poke at the monkey through the bars.

YAY for Sarah! She tweeted! (the only acceptable response evidently)
Better? :-D

All hail Sarah! She of the twitter account! She who bestows the facebook goodness! See, I’m one of you now.

Boxy_Brown on November 14, 2010 at 7:14 PM

The point remains. Would a WaPo Op-Ed make you feel any better?

ddrintn on November 14, 2010 at 10:17 PM

Boxy_Brown

Troll.

long_cat on November 14, 2010 at 11:44 PM

Re.long_cat

Troll.

No your a troll! So there…

Re.ddrintn

Would a WaPo Op-Ed make you feel any better?

They don’t publish submissions in Crayon. :-D

Boxy_Brown on November 15, 2010 at 3:04 AM

Boxy_Brown on November 15, 2010 at 3:04 AM

Sarah Palin is smarter, hotter, and more successful that you will ever be. And, she will rule you as your next President.

Deal with it, or don’t. It doesn’t really matter what you do.

Brian1972 on November 15, 2010 at 6:29 AM

Re.ddrintn

Would a WaPo Op-Ed make you feel any better?

They don’t publish submissions in Crayon. :-D

Boxy_Brown on November 15, 2010 at 3:04 AM

Wow, it took you a few hours to come up with that one, huh?

But… apparently they DO.

ddrintn on November 15, 2010 at 4:59 PM

Sarah Palin is smarter, hotter, and more successful that you will ever be. And, she will rule you as your next President.
Brian1972 on November 15, 2010 at 6:29 AM

She’s hotter then I am? Now that hurts.Not a great thing to want a president that “rules” the country there genius.

Wow, it took you a few hours to come up with that one, huh?
ddrintn

Things were winding down, you know how it is. Did I mention it’s an awesome strategy to alienate people who you are going to need help from? Oh yeah, I did. Whelp, my work is done.

Boxy_Brown on November 15, 2010 at 9:26 PM

Did I mention it’s an awesome strategy to alienate people who you are going to need help from? Oh yeah, I did.

Boxy_Brown on November 15, 2010 at 9:26 PM

Yeah, you just might want to think how many of those Palinista votes Mitt’s going to need to win the next time you think about hijacking another thread to trash Palin. A smattering of “independents” and “moderates” and disaffected Democrats won’t do it.

ddrintn on November 15, 2010 at 11:17 PM

“Yeah, you just might want to think how many of those Palinista votes Mitt’s going to need to win the next time you think about hijacking another thread to trash Palin” -ddrintn

I think we need better then either of those 2 to be honest.

Boxy_Brown on November 16, 2010 at 2:15 AM

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