Gallup: Palin’s unfavorable rating hits new high of 52%

posted at 4:58 pm on November 12, 2010 by Allahpundit

To recycle an old joke much beloved by longtime HA readers: You know who this poll benefits? Mitt Romney.

More than half of Americans, 52%, now view Sarah Palin unfavorably, the highest percentage holding a negative opinion of the former Alaska governor in Gallup polling since Sen. John McCain tapped her as the 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee. Her 40% favorable rating ties her lowest favorable score, recorded just over a year ago…

Palin’s image has consistently tilted negative since July 2009, and was nearly as negative in October 2009 as it is today. Public views on her were also more negative than positive just before the 2008 election, in which President Obama handily defeated the Republican ticket. By contrast, Americans’ initial reactions to Palin after her debut at the Republican National Convention that year were mostly favorable.

Follow the link above and you’ll see that the last time her favorables were net positive was January 2009. But wait, you say, didn’t we see an AP poll just days ago showing her favorable numbers the highest they’ve been in almost a year (not to mention yesterday’s PPP poll showing her leading the GOP field in several states)? Indeed we did, and I’m at a loss to explain the discrepancy. The AP polled 1,000 adults nationwide from Nov. 3 to Nov. 8 and got a 46/49 split; Gallup polled 1,021 adults nationwide from Nov. 4 to Nov. 7 and came up with 40/52. Your guess for what accounts for the difference is as good as mine. In fact, I can give you an argument for why each poll might be an outlier. If you look at HuffPo’s table of recent polling on her, the 40/52 number is more in line with polls taken last month (including one by Fox) than the AP’s rosier 46/49 split. On the other hand, I find this graph from Gallup exceedingly hard to believe:

So somehow, just three months before an election in which the GOP would end up utterly destroying Democrats among independents, the favorable rating of one of its most prominent figures just drops off a cliff among those same indies? Does that make any sense at all? It’s especially odd if you read the full Gallup article and see that the tea party’s numbers are steady over time. If Palin’s downturn was the byproduct of independents souring on fringier candidates like Angle and O’Donnell, that downturn should theoretically also appear in the ratings for the movement overall. It doesn’t. So what gives?

The good news is that her new TLC show produce some sort of bounce in the next poll. The bad news is that it’s now been almost two full years since her favorables were above the water line. Not the banner you want to carry into primary season when lots of GOP voters will be thinking of electability. Exit quotation from a certain senatorial princess who shall remain nameless: “I know what my Alaska looks like.”


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Are those the things that come with thong-clad women swinging around them?

ddrintn on November 12, 2010 at 5:30 PM

Well, have to check, wait.. sure , just vote Atheist RINO ’12!

the_nile on November 12, 2010 at 5:34 PM

by 2012 Obama will be president for almost 4 years

I have an inkling that will work in Palin’s favor, if she is the nominee.

Missy on November 12, 2010 at 5:34 PM

Look I like Sarah. She’s charismatic and I agree with her on a lot of issues. I’m just not sure there are enough people like me who like her to get her elected.

terryannonline on November 12, 2010 at 5:34 PM

Here is most of the answer, and it can be undone.

drunyan8315 on November 12, 2010 at 5:32 PM

drunyan8315:Excellent,and to the point!!

canopfor on November 12, 2010 at 5:34 PM

I’m at a loss to explain the discrepancy. The AP polled 1,000 adults nationwide from Nov. 3 to Nov. 8 and got a 46/49 split; Gallup polled 1,021 adults nationwide from Nov. 4 to Nov. 7 and came up with 40/52. Your guess for what accounts for the difference is as good as mine

You know Allah, you may be smart about something (to be determined at a later date, I suppose) but you simply CAN’T be this clueless can you?

It’s the polling sample. “Adults” is the weakest group one can sample. Always inaccurate, sometimes wildly, especially about politics. It’s why pollsters, especially those with an AGENDA, use this methodology.

The reason why the other polls differ from this is because they polled “likely voters” a much more accurate sample.

This is pretty simple stuff to learn. It’s amazing you haven’t.

As little as I know about anything, I’ve learned to never trust a poll of “adults” when it comes to politics.

Past that, all anyone REALLY needs to know, is Sarah Palin is the only one the pollsters are constantly doing this with. Just like the nonsensical CBS polls.

They are trying to create a narrative that simply doesn’t reflect reality, but instead, what they wish were true.

It’s Friday, and I’m lazy, but I bet you could dig up polling on Reagan back in 1978 and 1979 that looks exactly like this.

This is merely the left trying to create a narrative. Nothing more.

Glad you posted, but sad you’re buying into it.

gary4205 on November 12, 2010 at 5:35 PM

Maybe they heard about this?

Top Palin aide is on Soros’ payroll

That would be Republican lobbyist Randy Scheunemann, Palin’s foreign policy adviser and a member of her small inner circle. He runs a Washington, D.C., consulting firm called Orion Strategies. Scheunemann and a partner have since 2003 been paid over $150,000 by one of Soros’ organizations for lobbying work, according to federal disclosure forms reviewed by Salon. The lobbying, which has continued to the present, centers on legislation involving sanctions and democracy promotion in Burma.
[...]
Scheunemann is known as a longtime neoconservative who pushed for the U.S. invasion of Iraq and for support for Georgia. He has been strongly identified with Palin since he met her while working as the chief foreign policy adviser of the McCain campaign in 2008 (see a classic picture of Scheunemann and Palin doing debate prep here). Since then, Scheunemann has taken on an increasingly prominent role in Palin-land. He traveled with her to Hong Kong for a speech in September 2009. In the second quarter of 2010, Scheunemann’s Orion Strategies was paid $30,000 by Palin’s political action committee for consulting on “national and international issues.”

Palin even recommended Scheunemann — along with Orion Strategies staffer and former McCain campaign spokesman Michael Goldfarb — as debate prep coaches to doomed Delaware Senate candidate Christine O’Donnell. They subsequently spent a day helping O’Donnell.

Alas, too bad Sarah didn’t listen to reason.

Rae on November 12, 2010 at 5:35 PM

Styx- The Grand Illusion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCZ36A7leqE&feature=related

canopfor on November 12, 2010 at 5:36 PM

It is interesting that Palin’s numbers tanked after it became more clear that she intends to run in 2012.

Perhaps more people are happier about her being an attack dog, rather than a former of policy.

OldEnglish on November 12, 2010 at 5:37 PM

Reagan was a serious national political figure for decades.

His radio commentaries were staples long before he ran for the presidency.

He was also a serious conservative thinker.

rickyricardo on November 12, 2010

It doesn’t matter how long Reagan or anyone else was a ‘national’ political figure. We no longer live in those slow and sleepy times. Everything is fast now. Fast up, fast destroyed. Palin has weathered the storm like no other potential candidate SINCE Reagan.

Reagan didn’t start his political radio addresses until after he was defeated by Gerald Ford in the 1976 Republican Primary. But so what anyway? Palin is using TODAY’s media to drive the message. Have you been under a rock the past two years? Who started the ‘Death Panels’ discussion? Who actually LEAD with Tea Party gusto in the run-up to these last elections? And who is now leading out by speaking out about Quantitative Easing?

Well, it ain’t Mitt Romney, that’s for sure.

Reagan WAS a serious Conservative thinker. But to say Palin is not is to throw away all evidence to the contrary. Again, WHO is driving the debate? The number one person in America pushing all the right buttons for a more prosperous American future on either side of the aisle is Sarah Palin, bar none. The only competition that comes close in this regard is Newt Gingrich, but he’s a very distant second. Sarah Palin, a private citizen, is outdoing even the sitting President of the United States in the ‘bully pulpit’ department.

JonPrichard on November 12, 2010 at 5:37 PM

Here is most of the answer, and it can be undone.

drunyan8315 on November 12, 2010 at 5:32 PM

So on target.

darwin on November 12, 2010 at 5:37 PM

I’d vote for Allah just to hear him introduce the Indian Prime Minister as “dude”.

rickyricardo on November 12, 2010 at 5:37 PM

They believe the MSM crap when they say ‘We all just loved Reagan!’ and don’t know how much trash the very same people threw at the man.

sharrukin on November 12, 2010 at 5:33 PM

I’m glad you’re here to remind us. I was a Kid when Reagan was President.

portlandon on November 12, 2010 at 5:38 PM

You are forgetting that by 2012 Obama will be president for almost 4 years…
terryannonline on November 12, 2010 at 5:32 PM

No, I’m not. I’m drawing attention to it. Four years of Obama is better than two? This is not a man with mathematical progression on his side. No, he won’t have resigned, but people will have wished he had.

Anyway, the “resigning” issue is a narrative canard.

rrpjr on November 12, 2010 at 5:39 PM

Look I like Sarah. She’s charismatic and I agree with her on a lot of issues. I’m just not sure there are enough people like me who like her to get her elected.

terryannonline on November 12, 2010

Then talk ‘em into it. Convince ‘em. Get busy!

JonPrichard on November 12, 2010 at 5:40 PM

Look I like Sarah. She’s charismatic and I agree with her on a lot of issues. I’m just not sure there are enough people like me who like her to get her elected.

terryannonline on November 12, 2010 at 5:34 PM

If there aren’t, she won’t get elected. Pretty simple.

ddrintn on November 12, 2010 at 5:40 PM

Most people will vote based on electibility this time around: The GOP primary field isn’t great. Just as long as it’s not Gingrich, Mittins, Palin, Pawlenty, Mitch or 9iu11ani, I’m all good.

TimTebowSavesAmerica on November 12, 2010 at 5:40 PM

Perhaps more people are happier about her being an attack dog, rather than a former of policy.

OldEnglish on November 12, 2010 at 5:37 PM

Yes, exactly.

anniekc on November 12, 2010 at 5:42 PM

Shockingly, this Palinista remains undeterred.

Polls aren’t going to guide my vote. I am a conservative living in Austin, fer goshsakes. If I cared what everybody thought, I would have a giant “COEXIST” sticker next to my Obama/Biden sticker on my Hybrid Highlander just like my neighbor — who also thinks Palin is unelectable and inexperienced.

PRINCIPLES and commitment to individual liberty are what’s most important. We have to fight back against this collectivist crap. A willingness to strike back at Obama is also a good plus.

For those of you saying she’s no Reagan — you are absolutely right. She has patterned her entire political philosophy after his and seeks to follow in his footsteps, but she is not the man himself. However, she has the distinct advantage of being alive and willing to run in 2012.

bitsy on November 12, 2010 at 5:42 PM

To recycle an old joke much beloved by longtime HA readers: You know who this poll benefits? Mitt Romney Allahpundit.

portlandon on November 12, 2010 at 5:43 PM

Most people will vote based on electibility this time around: The GOP primary field isn’t great. Just as long as it’s not Gingrich, Mittins, Palin, Pawlenty, Mitch or 9iu11ani, I’m all good.

TimTebowSavesAmerica on November 12, 2010 at 5:40 PM

No, most people will vote based on ideology. We voted based on electability last time. McCain was the most electable because he could draw in independents and moderates, if you’ll recall. Anyway, I take it you’re a Thune or Pence supporter. Or maybe you have your county commissioner in mind? LOL

ddrintn on November 12, 2010 at 5:43 PM

I don’t think it will be a replay of O’Donnell race. More a replay of Angle vs. Reid

PrezHussein on November 12, 2010 at 5:44 PM

Most people will vote based on electibility this time around:

TimTebowSavesAmerica on November 12, 2010 at 5:40 PM

I seriously doubt anyone, except hardcore political junkies are going to sit around the table and discuss the electibility of candidates.

darwin on November 12, 2010 at 5:44 PM

As for the experience meme, how do you explain Obama? A community organizer for crying out loud.

Redneck Woman on November 12, 2010 at 5:33 PM

Redneck Women:And,Hopey has ZERO Military experience,at
least Sarah was Commander of the Alaska
National Guard.
===============================================

Overseeing a state Guard is a “chief executive role” with real management responsibilities, said Mark Allen, a spokesman for the National Guard Bureau, the federal office that coordinates state National Guards.

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/sep/06/nation/na-guard6

canopfor on November 12, 2010 at 5:44 PM

Friday. Traffic Down. AP rolls the “Traffic of Fortune” wheel. Atheism or Sarah Palin. Which will he choose?

lorien1973 on November 12, 2010 at 5:04 PM

*chortle*

True, but this paid off with almost two hunnert comments in 40 minutes. That’s why AP in is in the Blog Pundit biz and you and I are working stiffs. Wonder what he will do when she turns out to be a king- or queen-maker by endorsing someone else for POTUS and that person goes on to take down the Child Emperor?

If I were her, I’d opt for that role, rake in the millions, and enjoy life.

The War Planner on November 12, 2010 at 5:44 PM

Most of the people I know, strong conservatives, who were in love with Sarah Palin in 2008 aren’t anymore. They still like her a lot, but don’t feel she is (at this point, anyway) Presidential material.

anniekc on November 12, 2010 at 5:44 PM

They believe the MSM crap when they say ‘We all just loved Reagan!’ and don’t know how much trash the very same people threw at the man.

sharrukin on November 12, 2010

One of the most oft used phrases against Reagan up until a few years ago (when it was revealed he had Alzheimers) was to call him ‘An amiable dunce.’ Although they don’t use the exact same verbiage against Palin, they pretty much say she’s pretty or spunky but basically is just dumb.

Reagan wasn’t a dunce and Palin isn’t dumb. That’s the truth of the matter. Eventually we’ll all see just how smart Palin is (some have already caught on).

JonPrichard on November 12, 2010 at 5:45 PM

They still like her a lot, but don’t feel she is (at this point, anyway) Presidential material.

anniekc on November 12, 2010 at 5:44 PM

Well, if she decides to run, she’ll have campaigning to do to convince them otherwise. If she doesn’t convince them, she won’t win. I don’t see the reason for all the angst.

ddrintn on November 12, 2010 at 5:46 PM

Palin going all in on Christine O’Donnell disqualifies her for running for president…

ninjapirate on November 12, 2010 at 5:19 PM

No more than Willard going all in on Meg Whitman disqualifies him. Idiot.

You know what, I’ll take that back. Not the idiot part, but this: Romney backing a RINO hack absolutely disqualifies him.

At least Sarah backed a CONSERVATIVE.

gary4205 on November 12, 2010 at 5:47 PM

Reagan wasn’t a dunce and Palin isn’t dumb. That’s the truth of the matter. Eventually we’ll all see just how smart Palin is (some have already caught on).

JonPrichard on November 12, 2010 at 5:45 PM

What bothers me the most is how easily people are led to believe total nonsense regardless of the truth. It just seems that they accept whatever the media tells them to think, as the easiest path to take. That doesn’t bode well for future elections.

sharrukin on November 12, 2010 at 5:49 PM

So tell me how does RomneyCare benefit from this poll.

tarpon on November 12, 2010 at 5:50 PM

Most of the people I know, strong conservatives, who were in love with Sarah Palin in 2008 aren’t anymore. They still like her a lot, but don’t feel she is (at this point, anyway) Presidential material.

anniekc on November 12, 2010 at 5:44 PM

That’s kinda odd. Palin is capable, but more importantly willing, to take on the GOP establishment and the far left democrats.

No one to date has shown a willingness to fight, political consequences be damned.

darwin on November 12, 2010 at 5:50 PM

At least Sarah backed a CONSERVATIVE.
gary4205 on November 12, 2010 at 5:47 PM

Willard may have backed Whitman but why didn’t Palin Back Chuck Devore?..:)

Dire Straits on November 12, 2010 at 5:52 PM

Well, if she decides to run, she’ll have campaigning to do to convince them otherwise. If she doesn’t convince them, she won’t win. I don’t see the reason for all the angst.

ddrintn on November 12, 2010

Yes, exactly. For all those who say the Republicans have a weak field, etc. Let’s see how they all handle the rigors of the primaries. See who fights, who stands and who wilts. Then we’ll know the measure of the men (and gal, hopefully).

Personally I really like two possibles, Palin and Pence. But I want to see Pence tortured by the MSM and GOP backstabbers at least half as much as Palin has endured to see how he handles it all.

JonPrichard on November 12, 2010 at 5:52 PM

gary4205 on November 12, 2010 at 5:47 PM

Why are you acknowledging NinjaPirate?

He outed himself months ago when he said he would vote for Obama is Palin was the nominee.

NinjaPirate is not a serious Conservative, so treat him as such.

portlandon on November 12, 2010 at 5:53 PM

Willard may have backed Whitman but why didn’t Palin Back Chuck Devore?..:)

Dire Straits on November 12, 2010 at 5:52 PM

Because Devore was kind of a nasty man who had no chance of winning the GOP primary and Carly did and she *was* just as conservative as he was.

Jenfidel on November 12, 2010 at 5:55 PM

ddrintn on November 12, 2010 at 5:43 PM

It’s early and either way I’m going to follow the Buckley rule on this one, which disqualifies both Mittins and Sarah. My county guy is getting recalled right now; so he might be available!

darwin on November 12, 2010 at 5:44 PM

What do you think people who attend the IA caucuses and NH primary are. There is nothing to do in NH/IA; the one thing they get to tip their hat on is that they get to choose the nominees. They’ll definitely sit around the table and talk electibility; it’s how Dean collapsed in IA in 04.

TimTebowSavesAmerica on November 12, 2010 at 5:55 PM

Friday. Traffic Down. AP rolls the “Traffic of Fortune” wheel. Atheism or Sarah Palin. Which will he choose?

lorien1973 on November 12, 2010 at 5:04 PM

Why do I think that if that wheel was a pie graph, it would look like Pac-Man, with Palin represented in yellow, and a much smaller black wedge as Atheism?

DrAllecon on November 12, 2010 at 5:55 PM

JonPrichard on November 12, 2010 at 5:37 PM

Divine post, Jon!
I loved it.

Jenfidel on November 12, 2010 at 5:56 PM

What bothers me the most is how easily people are led to believe total nonsense regardless of the truth. It just seems that they accept whatever the media tells them to think, as the easiest path to take. That doesn’t bode well for future elections.

sharrukin on November 12, 2010

I agree with that. On the other hand, when very good candidates are severely raked over the coals and then show their best selves in professional forums (national debates and the like) they tend to surprise the electorate and often turn the tide.

JonPrichard on November 12, 2010 at 5:56 PM

Jenfidel on November 12, 2010 at 5:55 PM

Really?..More conservative that Devore?..Are you sure?..:)

Dire Straits on November 12, 2010 at 5:57 PM

In other polls… 65% of concern trolls are highly concerned, 30% are moderately concerned, and only 5% are mildly concerned.

There is no question that she is running in 2012 and that she will get the Repub nomination. The only question is… who should she pick for VP?

Palin / Bolton 2012

Palin / Liz Cheney 2012

bitsy on November 12, 2010 at 5:58 PM

Polls aren’t going to guide my vote. I am a conservative living in Austin, fer goshsakes. If I cared what everybody thought, I would have a giant “COEXIST” sticker next to my Obama/Biden sticker on my Hybrid Highlander just like my neighbor — who also thinks Palin is unelectable and inexperienced.

Bless your heart!
What a nightmare…and to think I was born in Austin! :-)

For those of you saying she’s no Reagan — you are absolutely right. She has patterned her entire political philosophy after his and seeks to follow in his footsteps, but she is not the man himself. However, she has the distinct advantage of being alive and willing to run in 2012.

bitsy on November 12, 2010 at 5:42 PM

The thing I love about Sarah is that no, she isn’t Reagan…she is herself!
I like to let Sarah be Sarah.

Jenfidel on November 12, 2010 at 5:58 PM

I don’t see the reason for all the angst.

ddrintn on November 12, 2010 at 5:46 PM

Because we don’t want Barry to win…?

anniekc on November 12, 2010 at 5:58 PM

Gosh, for someone with supposedly high negative numbers, she sure does elicit extremely positive totals for HA Threads.

kingsjester on November 12, 2010 at 5:58 PM

What do you think people who attend the IA caucuses and NH primary are. There is nothing to do in NH/IA; the one thing they get to tip their hat on is that they get to choose the nominees. They’ll definitely sit around the table and talk electibility; it’s how Dean collapsed in IA in 04.

TimTebowSavesAmerica on November 12, 2010 at 5:55 PM

Well I guess they screwed the pooch with McCain then.

darwin on November 12, 2010 at 5:59 PM

Really?..More conservative that Devore?..Are you sure?..:)

Dire Straits on November 12, 2010 at 5:57 PM

I wrote “as conservative” not “more conservative.”
Read more carefully, please.

Jenfidel on November 12, 2010 at 5:59 PM

I agree with that. On the other hand, when very good candidates are severely raked over the coals and then show their best selves in professional forums (national debates and the like) they tend to surprise the electorate and often turn the tide.

JonPrichard on November 12, 2010 at 5:56 PM

Lord, I hope so because the alternatives to Palin are all very weak candidates and as you say, haven’t as yet faced anything like she has.

sharrukin on November 12, 2010 at 6:00 PM

bitsy on November 12, 2010 at 5:58 PM

Girlfriend, I’m kinda thinking Palin/Rick Perry 2012!
Can you dig it, fellow Texan?

Jenfidel on November 12, 2010 at 6:00 PM

In other polls… 65% of concern trolls are highly concerned, 30% are moderately concerned, and only 5% are mildly concerned.

So if you’re not on the Palin for President bandwagon, you’re a “concern troll”? That’s lame.

anniekc on November 12, 2010 at 6:01 PM

This poll is probably true. Independents may like the Tea Party, but they don’t like Sarah Palin. I think it is an emotional sort of thing. Conservatives love her, they see her as a symbol…and a lot of Independents think she cashed in on her fame and tried to ride the Tea Party to stardom…or something like that.

Hopefully she can bring these people around. It might take awhile, but I think she can eventually. But I have my doubts that she can win a general with numbers like this, but then again if she is running against Obama, who knows? I don’t think he can win either.

Terrye on November 12, 2010 at 6:02 PM

Most people will vote based on electibility this time around:

TimTebowSavesAmerica on November 12, 2010 at 5:40 PM

Well, if they were really serious about voting based on “electability” they would have to vote for Huckabee. He appears to do the best against Obama in “polls”. But I digress.

I should note that each time “electability” has been the primary concern; we have gotten candidates like John McCain for the Reps and John Kerry for the Dems. Naturally, both lost.

Norwegian on November 12, 2010 at 6:03 PM

Jenfidel on November 12, 2010 at 5:59 PM

“as conservative” is a big stretch I would think..:)

Dire Straits on November 12, 2010 at 6:03 PM

Because we don’t want Barry to win…?

anniekc on November 12, 2010 at 5:58 PM

So who will be the assured Obama crusher?

the_nile on November 12, 2010 at 6:04 PM

anniekc on November 12, 2010 at 6:01 PM

I’m just giving you all a hard time! I actually like Romney and Gingrich a little bit, just not as much as Palin. (Don’t tell the other Palinistas I said that, though; they might take away my secret decoder ring!)

bitsy on November 12, 2010 at 6:04 PM

So if you’re not on the Palin for President bandwagon, you’re a “concern troll”? That’s lame.

anniekc on November 12, 2010 at 6:01 PM

We have a track record here…it usually turns out that the anti-Palin people are (concern) trolls, because they can never think of any reality-based, compelling reasons why she isn’t either electable or qualified to be POTUS.

Jenfidel on November 12, 2010 at 6:04 PM

Most people will vote based on electibility this time around: The GOP primary field isn’t great. Just as long as it’s not Gingrich, Mittins, Palin, Pawlenty, Mitch or 9iu11ani, I’m all good.

TimTebowSavesAmerica on November 12, 2010 at 5:40 PM

Yeah because that strategery worked so well with McCain, Dole, and so on.

People who vote for “electability” over principle are morons.

BTW, who gets to determine “electability” anyhow? You? Me? The corrupt media? The democrats? Who is it?

Of all of the idiotic arguments one can make, the one we must back someone who is “electable” is as idiotic as it gets.

America wants and will elect a LEADER this time around. We only have one. That’s Sarah Palin. The rest are just followers.

gary4205 on November 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM

“as conservative” is a big stretch I would think..:)

Dire Straits on November 12, 2010 at 6:03 PM

It’s not.
Carly took basically the same conservative position on the issues that Chuckie did.

Jenfidel on November 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM

Well, if they were really serious about voting based on “electability” they would have to vote for Huckabee. He appears to do the best against Obama in “polls”. But I digress.

I should note that each time “electability” has been the primary concern; we have gotten candidates like John McCain for the Reps and John Kerry for the Dems. Naturally, both lost.

Norwegian on November 12, 2010 at 6:03 PM

Yeah Huck will be perfect, I’m sure the media has nothing on him…

the_nile on November 12, 2010 at 6:06 PM

Yeah because that strategery worked so well with McCain, Dole, and so on.

People who vote for “electability” over principle are morons.

gary4205 on November 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM

Isn’t it too awfully ironic that McCain was, in actuality, extremely unelectable?
I voted for Sarah!

Jenfidel on November 12, 2010 at 6:08 PM

Girlfriend, I’m kinda thinking Palin/Rick Perry 2012!
Can you dig it, fellow Texan?

Jenfidel on November 12, 2010 at 6:00 PM

Well, kind of… except that we already loaned this country one perfectly good TX gov, and they didn’t treat him very well!

bitsy on November 12, 2010 at 6:08 PM

So what…….she’s a private citizen, not running for anything and on top of that she’s just a Hillbilly from Wasilly (thank you Obama) with a “reality show” (thank you Karl Rove).

Who cares…………she’s “irrelevant” (thank you 1,000,000 lefty websites).

PappyD61 on November 12, 2010 at 6:09 PM

You people sound like a bunch of little girls…….

Obama’s poll numbers are 44.9/49.5 at RCP.
Do any of you brainiacs think his numbers will be back up to the era of hope and change?
The elections are 2 years away. Get a grip……

I stand with Sarah Palin.

idesign on November 12, 2010 at 6:09 PM

and a lot of Independents think she cashed in on her fame and tried to ride the Tea Party to stardom…or something like that.

Terrye on November 12, 2010 at 6:02 PM

When you ask most people who dislike Palin why they dislike her … they repeat the media talking points. They don’t realize they’re doing it, but they are. Two years of constant “Pain is unelectable because of ….” slowly registers and sinks in.

If you ask them to explain their reasoning, they can’t. If Palin can break that spell she’s home free.

darwin on November 12, 2010 at 6:12 PM

They still like her a lot, but don’t feel she is (at this point, anyway) Presidential material.

anniekc on November 12, 2010 at 5:44 PM

Well, if she decides to run, she’ll have campaigning to do to convince them otherwise. If she doesn’t convince them, she won’t win. I don’t see the reason for all the angst.

ddrintn on November 12, 2010 at 5:46 PM

The reason for the angst is posters like anniekc know they are full of crap, and are just throwing out anything hoping it sticks.

They, like us, know that if Sarah runs, odds are she runs away with the nomination and the Presidency, and their favorite go-along-get-along squish will have no shot to team up with the democrats and grow government.

gary4205 on November 12, 2010 at 6:12 PM

America wants and will elect a LEADER this time around. We only have one. That’s Sarah Palin. The rest are just followers.

gary4205 on November 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM

Well I guess that’s it Folks!..We know who to vote for!..No Debate just pull the lever for Sarah!..:)

Dire Straits on November 12, 2010 at 6:14 PM

Most of the people I know, strong conservatives, who were in love with Sarah Palin in 2008 aren’t anymore. They still like her a lot, but don’t feel she is (at this point, anyway) Presidential material.

anniekc on November 12, 2010 at 5:44 PM

What exactly is “Presidential material”?

Sarah Palin is the ONLY conservative out there driving the debate. She has been at the forefront of EVERY single issue since coining the phrase “Death Panel” to working her ass off to get CONSERVATIVES elected to office. She has the WH playing defense more than anyone else in the political arena and when she puts out a Facebook post, the entire spin machine goes into action. It’s heard ’round the world and she doesn’t even have to leave her house.

She is by far the most influential Republican in recent history and some of you want to sit back and hand-wring over how the media will treat her if she runs or how your “conservative” friends view her.

How about taking a page out of Palin’s book and fight to take this country back from the leftists? Quit conceeding ground to those who want to pick our candidate again. Do you honestly think the media is going to give ANY of our candidates a fair shake? Palin is just as qualified as anyone else in the running and she brings passion to the issues. She connects with people on a level some of the others do not. Why not take adavantge of this and let her make her case? If she cannot persuade the electorate, then she won’t win. But don’t knee-cap her before she even gets the chance because of what some dumb polls says.

Redneck Woman on November 12, 2010 at 6:15 PM

Norwegian on November 12, 2010 at 6:03 PM

Look what happened in your home state; now you got a crazy leftist as your gov and a liberal, tingles approved, dirtbag Senator. We both want a conservative. I just want to play it safe this time and make sure we win. BTW do you make lefse for Thanksgiving or year around?

gary4205 on November 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM

You’re right: Sarah has led when others have been quiet. She’s the toughest person out there, but as of right now she can’t win. She has a year to turn it around; so maybe she can pull a Hillary, and if she does, I’ll happily eat crow. But life isn’t fair and what happened to Palin wasn’t fair. But I think she’d agree it’s more important for zero to implode than for her to get the nomination.

TimTebowSavesAmerica on November 12, 2010 at 6:16 PM

I should note that each time “electability” has been the primary concern; we have gotten candidates like John McCain for the Reps and John Kerry for the Dems. Naturally, both lost.

Norwegian on November 12, 2010 at 6:03 PM

Exactly.

bitsy on November 12, 2010 at 6:16 PM

The poll numbers are bullshit and everybody knows it.

oldyeller on November 12, 2010 at 6:18 PM

So after 2 years of 100% negative coverage, with the entire democrate party as well as the entire establishment GOP attacking her on a daily basis she still retains around a 50/50 split.

whereas with 100% positive press, the entire democrate party behind him, the bully pulpit and all the trappings of the office of the POTUS Obama is almost under 40% approval.

Hmmmm Let’s see what Mitt and huck’s numbers are after say 2 weeks of negative attacks let alone 2 years. All and All Palin is doing very well. Polls showing her trend goign up. Last year she was at 36% now it’s in the 40′s. the real test has always been what her numbers are once she is seen in the SAME company as the other contenders so voters can compare and contrast. the primaries will increase her numbers. If she is at 52/48 by the end of the primary season/convention she wins in a landslide. Because then it becomes

unseen on November 12, 2010 at 6:18 PM

Willard may have backed Whitman but why didn’t Palin Back Chuck Devore?..:)

Dire Straits on November 12, 2010 at 5:52 PM

Because DeVore had many ethics issues. Issues that Sarah had made sure Alaskan Republicans paid huge fines for , and even faced prison.

Past that, he had zero chance of winning the primary. None. Faced with the choice of CONSERVATIVE Carly Fiorina and the other cat who was to the left of Boxer, she made the right choice.

Full disclosure, I was a DeVore backer until I found out he was corrupt. I lost ALL respect for him after the way he acted when Sarah chose to endorse Carly. Between him and his insane cult like supporters, I swore off the guy.

gary4205 on November 12, 2010 at 6:18 PM

We have a track record here…it usually turns out that the anti-Palin people are (concern) trolls, because they can never think of any reality-based, compelling reasons why she isn’t either electable or qualified to be POTUS.

Jenfidel on November 12, 2010 at 6:04 PM

I’m not anti-Palin, I like her. I have from the beginning. I just think she’s almost, if not equally, as polorizing as Obama, and it while Barry may be hated by 50%+, Palin has that AND the media attacking her. It just “seems” insurmountable at this point, but hey- we’ll see how it all plays out.

anniekc on November 12, 2010 at 6:19 PM

She’s been running around making political allies and entertaining banal speculation on her political future instead of making a case for conservative issues. She needs to start pounding the resource extraction issue especially now that commodities are rising sharply while American competitiveness is questioned vis-a-vis China.

theperfecteconomist on November 12, 2010 at 6:20 PM

Why are you acknowledging NinjaPirate?

He outed himself months ago when he said he would vote for Obama is Palin was the nominee.

NinjaPirate is not a serious Conservative, so treat him as such.

portlandon on November 12, 2010 at 5:53 PM

Oh, I know. He’s a troll of the highest order, but it fit the narrative.

gary4205 on November 12, 2010 at 6:21 PM

gary4205 on November 12, 2010 at 6:18 PM

Ok..:)

Dire Straits on November 12, 2010 at 6:21 PM

Don’t let Allah suck you down this road to nowhere.

The whole premise is based on her “Presidential polling”.

She is a stalwart conservative, a Patriot, a voice of value. Because she may be able to win a Presidential election does not diminish her worth to this nation.

Browndog on November 12, 2010 at 6:22 PM

The reason for the angst is posters like anniekc know they are full of crap, and are just throwing out anything hoping it sticks.

Get a life, asswipe.

anniekc on November 12, 2010 at 6:22 PM

I’m not anti-Palin, I like her. I have from the beginning. I just think she’s almost, if not equally, as polorizing as Obama, and it while Barry may be hated by 50%+, Palin has that AND the media attacking her. It just “seems” insurmountable at this point, but hey- we’ll see how it all plays out.

anniekc on November 12, 2010 at 6:19 PM

Do you really think that? Or are you saying that because it’s been floated by the media and you’re just repeating it.

I’m serious. A lot of people repeat criticism’s of Palin, made by the media without realizing they’re doing so.

If you do really think she’s polarizing can I ask what is it about her that makes it so?

darwin on November 12, 2010 at 6:23 PM

She’s done what, exactly, in the past week to warrant a downturn? The answer: nothing. Polling Palin at this juncture, is stupid.

BKeyser on November 12, 2010 at 6:24 PM

She’s been running around making political allies and entertaining banal speculation on her political future instead of making a case for conservative issues. She needs to start pounding the resource extraction issue especially now that commodities are rising sharply while American competitiveness is questioned vis-a-vis China.

theperfecteconomist on November 12, 2010 at 6:20 PM

Huh? She has been speaking out on a vast array of issues, including a highly publicized speech on QE2 in Phoenix last week. She has been much more vocal on issues and opposing Obama’s agenda than other GOP hopefuls.

Norwegian on November 12, 2010 at 6:26 PM

I

just think she’s almost, if not equally, as polorizing as Obama,

anniekc on November 12, 2010 at 6:19 PM

I’m sorry, but what does “polarizing” mean?
The MSM has made it into a meaningless weasel word.

Jenfidel on November 12, 2010 at 6:31 PM

Girlfriend, I’m kinda thinking Palin/Rick Perry 2012!
Can you dig it, fellow Texan?

Jenfidel on November 12, 2010 at 6:00 PM

I think you are as spot on as they come.

I just heard Perry is going to head the RGA when Haley steps down. That’s not a bad thing.

I’ve been thinking for a long, long time that Palin/Perry just makes sense. Those two obviously are friends and have a good working relationship.

You’d have two very strong CEOs on the ticket. Both of whom made their states better.

I know us Texans have had our issues with Perry, but he’s been good for the state.

Let’s face it, it would also make some of those who really do think (wrongly of course) that Sarah isn’t “ready” (but, really, who is) feel better.

It would be a very hard ticket to beat. Also, after she served her two terms, I think Perry could keep the Palin Rev0lution alive. One of the problems with the Reagan Rev0lution is he was forced to pick Bush 41 as his running mate, and the Conservative principles weren’t followed after Reagan’s time was up.

After seeing Perry on Greta the other night, I like this idea more than ever before.

gary4205 on November 12, 2010 at 6:32 PM

Bull,
Independents went highly for Republicans in the mid-term.
The idea that her favs went down among them is ridiculous.
Let’s not forget that polls and liberals loved McCain, until he won the GOP primary. They convinced the rest that he was the best choice (only best for them)
Gallup has long been propanganda tool and this poll proves it once again

No AllahRino, this doesn’t make her less capable of winning the Presidentcy and NO her winning doesn’t make your gay lifestyle make any more sense.

LeeSeneca on November 12, 2010 at 6:35 PM

Norwegian on November 12, 2010 at 6:26 PM

But her interviews with the MSM are always fluffy or “so you regret nothing” character hit pieces, and that’s probably on what most of the public base their opinion.

theperfecteconomist on November 12, 2010 at 6:35 PM

Isn’t it too awfully ironic that McCain was, in actuality, extremely unelectable?
I voted for Sarah!

Jenfidel on November 12, 2010 at 6:08 PM

So did most people who voted Republican!

I was predisposed to vote against Obama, but had no enthusiasm whatsoever until McCain picked Sarah. Probably the smartest thing the man has ever done.

Of course I was one of those Draft Sarah folks, so the excitement was even bigger!

gary4205 on November 12, 2010 at 6:37 PM

theperfecteconomist on November 12, 2010 at 6:35 PM

What and who are you talking about?!?
Bernanke, is that you?

Jenfidel on November 12, 2010 at 6:38 PM

I’m not anti-Palin, I like her. I have from the beginning. I just think she’s almost, if not equally, as polorizing as Obama

Sooooo… we’re fighting for the soul of our country against the socialist forces of darkness, and you want someone non-polarizing? It sounds like you haven’t figured out how this game works. Anybody with a snowball’s chance in hell of beating Obama will be portrayed endlessly as polarizing, dumb, and/or racist.

bitsy on November 12, 2010 at 6:39 PM

Damn the polls! Full speed ahead!

MCGIRV on November 12, 2010 at 6:40 PM

What exactly is “Presidential material”?

Sarah Palin is the ONLY conservative out there driving the debate. She has been at the forefront of EVERY single issue since coining the phrase “Death Panel” to working her ass off to get CONSERVATIVES elected to office. She has the WH playing defense more than anyone else in the political arena and when she puts out a Facebook post, the entire spin machine goes into action. It’s heard ’round the world and she doesn’t even have to leave her house.

She is by far the most influential Republican in recent history and some of you want to sit back and hand-wring over how the media will treat her if she runs or how your “conservative” friends view her.

How about taking a page out of Palin’s book and fight to take this country back from the leftists? Quit conceeding ground to those who want to pick our candidate again. Do you honestly think the media is going to give ANY of our candidates a fair shake? Palin is just as qualified as anyone else in the running and she brings passion to the issues. She connects with people on a level some of the others do not. Why not take adavantge of this and let her make her case? If she cannot persuade the electorate, then she won’t win. But don’t knee-cap her before she even gets the chance because of what some dumb polls says.

Redneck Woman on November 12, 2010 at 6:15 PM

This is covered in awesome sauce!

Thread winner.

gary4205 on November 12, 2010 at 6:41 PM

So somehow, just three months before an election in which the GOP would end up utterly destroying Democrats among independents, the favorable rating of one of its most prominent figures just drops off a cliff among those same indies? Does that make any sense at all?

During that time you had Palin’s endorsement of O’Donnell, which probably hurt her with independents.

Jon0815 on November 12, 2010 at 6:44 PM

Its all over. I have this horrible feeling that Mitt is going to run and clean up.

Gun to your head, Huckabee or Mitt?

El_Terrible on November 12, 2010 at 6:47 PM

I’m sorry, but what does “polarizing” mean?

Jenfidel on November 12, 2010 at 6:31 PM

Republican.

El_Terrible on November 12, 2010 at 6:48 PM

Maybe they heard about this?
Top Palin aide is on Soros’ payroll

That would be Republican lobbyist Randy Scheunemann, Palin’s foreign policy adviser and a member of her small inner circle. He runs a Washington, D.C., consulting firm called Orion Strategies. Scheunemann and a partner have since 2003 been paid over $150,000 by one of Soros’ organizations for lobbying work, according to federal disclosure forms reviewed by Salon. The lobbying, which has continued to the present, centers on legislation involving sanctions and democracy promotion in Burma.
[...]
Scheunemann is known as a longtime neoconservative who pushed for the U.S. invasion of Iraq and for support for Georgia. He has been strongly identified with Palin since he met her while working as the chief foreign policy adviser of the McCain campaign in 2008 (see a classic picture of Scheunemann and Palin doing debate prep here). Since then, Scheunemann has taken on an increasingly prominent role in Palin-land. He traveled with her to Hong Kong for a speech in September 2009. In the second quarter of 2010, Scheunemann’s Orion Strategies was paid $30,000 by Palin’s political action committee for consulting on “national and international issues.”
Palin even recommended Scheunemann — along with Orion Strategies staffer and former McCain campaign spokesman Michael Goldfarb — as debate prep coaches to doomed Delaware Senate candidate Christine O’Donnell. They subsequently spent a day helping O’Donnell.
Alas, too bad Sarah didn’t listen to reason.
Rae on November 12, 2010 at 5:35 PM

The meme of the day I suppose? Question is this meant to hurt Sarah or help Soros?

CCRWM on November 12, 2010 at 6:49 PM

Jenfidel on November 12, 2010 at 6:38 PM

I’m just saying Palin has bad poll numbers partly from her own doing and partly because of the MSM. I’d really like to know what else it can be.

theperfecteconomist on November 12, 2010 at 6:50 PM

Gun to your head, Huckabee or Mitt?

El_Terrible on November 12, 2010 at 6:47 PM

Jack Daniels!

sharrukin on November 12, 2010 at 6:52 PM

because they can never think of any reality-based, compelling reasons why she isn’t either electable or qualified to be POTUS.

Jenfidel

Palin is as electable as Christine O’Donnell and Sharon Angle, so those people who say she isn’t electable don’t know what they be talking about.

xblade on November 12, 2010 at 6:53 PM

I’m sorry, but what does “polarizing” mean?

Jenfidel on November 12, 2010 at 6:31 PM

Unelectable.

Vyce on November 12, 2010 at 6:54 PM

Isn’t this what the primaries are for? Won’t the result of those decide the nominee? I say we go through the process and We The People decide… Novel idea huh?

CCRWM on November 12, 2010 at 6:55 PM

Gallup: Palin’s unfavorable rating hits new high of 52%

This poll is biased because it says things that I don’t like.

Proud Rino on November 12, 2010 at 6:59 PM

You’re right: Sarah has led when others have been quiet. She’s the toughest person out there, but as of right now she can’t win. She has a year to turn it around; so maybe she can pull a Hillary, and if she does, I’ll happily eat crow. But life isn’t fair and what happened to Palin wasn’t fair. But I think she’d agree it’s more important for zero to implode than for her to get the nomination.

TimTebowSavesAmerica on November 12, 2010 at 6:16 PM

Of course I’m right!

And NO, it’s NOT more important that Obama implode than Sarah is our next President.

I and millions upon millions of others want Sarah as our President because she is a leader. She don’t take no $hit from no one.

She’s our only chance of getting an actual principled leader in office. One that believes the Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land, and that it’s non-negotiable.

(She actually carried a copy of the Alaska Constitution with her all of the time she was in office, and never had a problem whipping it out when folks strayed from it’s guidance.)

I want someone who has a FIRM grasp on economic issues and is a REAL fiscal Conservative. Someone who has a PROVEN RECORD of being able to reign in uncontrollable government, as well as creating positive economic growth.

I want someone who will treat our allies as allies and will look our enemies in the eye and let them know her policy toward them is quite simple, “we win, you lose.”

I want Sarah because more than anyone else on the planet, she understands that energy is a national security issue, as much as a fiscal one.

Sarah Palin gets that sending a trillion dollars a year outside the United States for oil is insane, especially since much of it ends up in the hands of nations that sponsor terror against us.

Sarah will Drill, baby drill, Get us using more natural gas, building nuke plants, and even exploring new energy sources.

Sarah has a solid resume on energy issues. Her goal is to make us 100 percent energy independent. Hell that alone makes me support her.

More than anything, I want honesty and Common Sense in a leader. Sarah is the most honest politician we have seen in our life times, and is most certainly the one who uses Common Sense as the great litmus test on whether something should or should not be done.

It’s pretty simple. There is no one out there who has an ounce of the integrity, ability, or experience Sarah Palin has.

You Palin deniers can chip all you want, but you aren’t going to change a single supporter’s mind. We KNOW why we support her over the rest.

But keep on wasting your time. It keeps you from screwing something up somewhere else, I’m quite sure!!

gary4205 on November 12, 2010 at 7:00 PM

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