Obama surrendering on tax rates?
posted at 11:36 am on November 11, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
The message from Barack Obama’s post-midterm press conference on tax rates wasn’t just spitballing. P0litico reports that the White House has followed it up with consistent messaging that the White House will back a temporary extension of the current rates, including an extension of the top rate which they had opposed before the election, noting the new political realities in the post-Tea-nami environment. David Axelrod reiterated the new position to Huffington Post:
President Barack Obama’s top adviser suggested to The Huffington Post late Wednesday that the administration is ready to accept an across-the-board, temporary continuation of steep Bush-era tax cuts, including those for the wealthiest taxpayers.
That appears to be the only way, said David Axelrod, that middle-class taxpayers can keep their tax cuts, given the legislative and political realities facing Obama in the aftermath of last week’s electoral defeat.
“We have to deal with the world as we find it,” Axelrod said during an unusually candid and reflective 90-minute interview in his office, steps away from the Oval Office. “The world of what it takes to get this done.”
“There are concerns,” he added, that Congress will continue to kick the can down the road in the future by passing temporary extensions for the wealthy time and time again. “But I don’t want to trade away security for the middle class in order to make that point.”
Politico’s Carrie Budoff Brown gets reaction from the Democratic base, and it’s not exactly a rousing endorsement of compromise:
But the move is already being interpreted by the progressive base as a cave-in. They see little reason to cede ground to Republicans because polls show voters don’t favor renewing tax cuts for the wealthy. They say they want Obama to hold firm to his longtime campaign pledge to let those high-end tax breaks expire.
“Obama caving on the high income tax-cut issue guarantees that he will attract an intra-party opponent from the progressive wing of the Democratic Party,” Boston University law professor Cornelius Hurley wrote on POLITICO’s Arena. “The White House misreads the mood of the country. Tea partiers do not reflect that mood. Independents and Democrats disenchanted with Obama’s lack of conviction do.”
Jane Hamsher, a frequent White House critic, posted reaction last night to Axelrod’s comments under the headline, “Obama Twists Own Arm, Says ‘Uncle’ to Extending Bush Tax Cuts.”
At this point, Obama would welcome a primary challenge from the Left. The midterm elections showed that the electorate had no taste for the radical agenda pushed by Nancy Pelosi of high-spending big-government programs, and even less patience for economic stagnation. A primary challenge from the Left would allow Obama to at least start his campaign by leaning back to the center and attempting to paint the challenge as proof that he governed as a moderate.
That’s certainly why Obama is crying “Uncle,” at least to a certain point. The GOP wants all of the current tax rates made permanent, and the leak from the Debt Commission gives them a little more standing for that position. The trial balloon suggests keeping rates largely as they are but reducing tax credits and deductions to generate more consistent revenue. Obama wants to kick the can down the road past the next presidential election, figuring that he can deal more easily with a challenge from a Russ Feingold-type challenger on his left in the primaries than a serious center-right Republican nominee in the general election by doing so.
It’s not a surrender, really, just a strategic retreat to regroup. We’ll see if his own troops will allow him to reposition himself or abandon him for doing so.









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He had to surrender to somebody, and the Taliban wasn’t returning his calls.
Vashta.Nerada on November 11, 2010 at 11:37 AM
Let me be clear. As I have always said…
- President B. H. Obama
rogerb on November 11, 2010 at 11:38 AM
The Left will go crawling back to Obama at election time.
They’ll wail and gnash their teeth, but unlike many on the right, they have no principles to keep them from voting their ideology.
catmman on November 11, 2010 at 11:39 AM
Still plenty of ‘tricks’ to play, the legislation hasn’t even been written yet, nor voted on. Just wait, and watch what happens, and try to remember.
Skandia Recluse on November 11, 2010 at 11:40 AM
Obama playing is playing “Spades”, and he doesn’t have any trump cards.
Barack bids “Nil”.
BobMbx on November 11, 2010 at 11:40 AM
Sidebar: Paul Krugman soils his bed.
jake-the-goose on November 11, 2010 at 11:40 AM
Compromise Snafu ClusterProgressiveLibFark!!!!
canopfor on November 11, 2010 at 11:41 AM
After all, who has dominated political discourse for the past two years more than independents and Democrats disenchanted with Obooba’s lack of conviction?
Akzed on November 11, 2010 at 11:41 AM
We need deterministic policies. These “temporary” measures have got to be replaced by permanent ones.
I’d say the negotiations are in favor of the Republicans on this one.
unclesmrgol on November 11, 2010 at 11:42 AM
I will believe it when I see bho actually sign the extension. This man lies so much, when can he be believed?
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letget on November 11, 2010 at 11:42 AM
We would too if it turned into a 3rd party split for the Donks. BUH-bye Zero.
Tony737 on November 11, 2010 at 11:42 AM
So, if we find out that the world isn’t full of unicorns and rainbows with pots of gold in them, that we have to just “deal with it.” C’mon Dave, that’s 180deg away from a helluva lot of meme’s y’all were spinning over the last 3 years. I thought that, at some point, all those folks had “made enough money” and you’re set to let those villains make more? Your funeral, jack.
ted c on November 11, 2010 at 11:43 AM
What does his base consist of? Youngsters, and welfare recipients that were counting on that rich persons money, to pay for their homes, and gas, and food?
If Obama robs from the tax payers, he’ll help them, and they’ll help him!
capejasmine on November 11, 2010 at 11:44 AM
he’ll sign an extension onto the back of the paper that he signed to close gitmo.
You own this guy libs, he’s yours. He’s failing you, he’s failing all of us. Why did you buy him? You were so easily fooled. We weren’t! Y’all think that you’re the smart ones around here. Looks like that theory is shot to pieces, eh?
ted c on November 11, 2010 at 11:45 AM
When you mount a French offense, it’s not surprising when you have to use the French defense!
Dark-Star on November 11, 2010 at 11:45 AM
I’m surprised he actually has time to think about the tax hikes what with all Veteran’s Day ceremonies he’s attending and all the speeches praising of our veterans he’s been busy with. Oh, wait…
IrishEi on November 11, 2010 at 11:45 AM
We have radicals in the White House. They’re not simply going to give up … they’re buying time and setting the stage.
darwin on November 11, 2010 at 11:46 AM
You seem to think Osama Obama is telling the truth about his intentions here, Ed.
Naive. When has the Mohammedan Mouthpiece told the truth about anything?
As the “Etonian Burmese” said in I’m All Right, Jack, “doubtless some swindle is being prepared.”
Basing your calculations on what lefties say rather than what they do is a sure path to defeat.
MrScribbler on November 11, 2010 at 11:46 AM
Agree with catmman….they won’t quit him
cmsinaz on November 11, 2010 at 11:46 AM
I want to know what’s happening with the $1000/child tax credit that was also set to expire (roll back to $500/child). Any word on that?
CurtZHP on November 11, 2010 at 11:48 AM
temporary extension won’t do anything to spur the economy. Businesses won’t spend money today if they know 2 years from now their taxes will increase. If anything they will save as much as possible today to prepare for what’s coming.
angryed on November 11, 2010 at 11:49 AM
What does he expect in the future in return for rolling over? Don’t take your eyes off of him or any of his partners in crime. He don’t do nothin’ for nothin’.
Kissmygrits on November 11, 2010 at 11:51 AM
And I give a rat’s ass about this “story” why, exactly?
logis on November 11, 2010 at 11:52 AM
They see little reason to cede ground to Republicans because polls show voters don’t favor renewing tax cuts for the wealthy.
They didn’t seem to care about the polls when the health care “reform” debacle,takeover,clusterfark was jammed down our throats that we the people did not and still don’t want…
SHARPTOOTH on November 11, 2010 at 11:52 AM
What ground does he own that he can regroup upon? The center? Hell no. The left, not hardly! The only regroup that he can perform right now is to readjust his skirt in the Indonesian heat. When your position is getting overrun by a legion of new tax cutters bearing down on your well-decorated foxhole (thank you Kevin Jennings), all that you can do is plead for mercy. Someone has to give it to him, either via forgiveness from the left, or a temporary measure from the right.
either way, scrrooooomed.
ted c on November 11, 2010 at 11:53 AM
from the OOTD
Looks like he really enjoyed the liberation of “saying” how he wanted the tax cuts to expire but didn’t think through how he could actually do it (in a depression).
Obamateurism of the Year, along with “shovel ready jobs” are really a “crock”.
ted c on November 11, 2010 at 11:56 AM
given the strong propensity to lie, misdirect and distract i wouldn’t trust anything anybody on the left says….Obama’s gig is class warfare, that is who he is
he is especially disgusting because he has even tried to blame Bush for the fact that the tax cut are expiring. what a duplicitous leftist….i hope he caves, i hope that they make it permanent just to shove that down their throat
r keller on November 11, 2010 at 11:58 AM
Looks like you can listen to Rush Limbaugh and get stuff done….
ted c on November 11, 2010 at 12:00 PM
base – adjective
1. morally low; without estimable personal qualities; dishonorable; meanspirited; selfish; cowardly.
2. of little or no value; worthless.
You got that right, Carrie.
Patrick S on November 11, 2010 at 12:01 PM
Who would challenge him from the left? Dean? No one’s gonna buy Obama as some sort of pragmatic centrist. Not in 2012. He already played that card once. And a primary challenge from a well-known politician would be a disaster for his reelection prospects.
Doughboy on November 11, 2010 at 12:01 PM
Me thinks,that Obama is stuck in Stalingard,
and unfortunately he’s sticking by his own
no surrender orders,cut off,and soon to be
politically out of ammo,and starving!(snark)
canopfor on November 11, 2010 at 12:03 PM
You forgot utilities, cable TV, high-speed Internet, cellphones, free healthcare, free child care, free legal services, free ESL translators in schools, etc. Oh, and free beer on Election Day. And free needles and condoms in California.
VastRightWingConspirator on November 11, 2010 at 12:03 PM
O/T
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Crack a window open,enjoy!
Online Talk AM Radio-Rush Limbaugh
http://radiotime.com/WebTuner.aspx?StationId=21757&
canopfor on November 11, 2010 at 12:05 PM
Like those Japanese soldiers they occasionally find living in jungles on small Pacific Islands, who don’t know that WWII ended 50 years ago.
VastRightWingConspirator on November 11, 2010 at 12:05 PM
heh
cmsinaz on November 11, 2010 at 12:05 PM
Odd. Californians just voted to let corporations keeps their tax cuts.
Professor Hurley needs to get out of his liberal bubble from time to time. Maybe converse with “the great unwashed”.
GarandFan on November 11, 2010 at 12:06 PM
Don’t any of these liberals aspire to be rich? To work hard and make a lot of money doing something they enjoy?
I don’t want high tax rates in either Canada or the United States because I’m working to be in that bracket someday, even if it takes me longer to get there than I wanted when I was younger.
And not currently having my own family, I’ll gladly seek citizenship in other countries where I think I can better shield MY income. Already planning on it. Which is sad. I’m an American AND Canadian citizen and honestly feel that if I want to raise a large family with a decent standard of living, I have to move to a different country
Canadian Infidel on November 11, 2010 at 12:06 PM
Looks like you can listen to Rush Limbaugh and get stuff done….
ted c on November 11, 2010 at 12:00 PM
ted c:True Dat:)
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http://radiotime.com/WebTuner.aspx?StationId=21757&
canopfor on November 11, 2010 at 12:06 PM
HuffPoop has 18,000 comments of liberals crying like a baby. I actually read two or three.
Marcus on November 11, 2010 at 12:07 PM
I went to HuffPo to see what they said about this and they have 18,705 comments so far. Has HA ever had that many on one topic? Of course the comments are 99% psychotic, but still…
txmomof6 on November 11, 2010 at 12:07 PM
thanks for reminding me…it is 12:05 and I just about missed the opening segment.
ted c on November 11, 2010 at 12:07 PM
HuffPoop has 18,000 comments of liberals crying like a baby. I actually read two or three.
Marcus on November 11, 2010 at 12:07 PM
ur kidding?! 18K, in how long?
ted c on November 11, 2010 at 12:08 PM
O/T: Where is the Veterans Day thread on HA? Thank you to all who served our great nation!
TN Mom on November 11, 2010 at 12:09 PM
Get used to this hippies. Over the next 2 years, Obama’s going to be folding faster than Superman on laundry day.
Chuck Schick on November 11, 2010 at 12:12 PM
Scroll down a bit.
Asher on November 11, 2010 at 12:13 PM
It’s the same two people commenting: Ariana & Spooky Dude Soros. They type really fast…
TN Mom on November 11, 2010 at 12:13 PM
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/11/11/video-series-the-great-americans/
Veterans DAy thread
ted c on November 11, 2010 at 12:13 PM
Thank you!
TN Mom on November 11, 2010 at 12:14 PM
Yessirree – progressives just love to stir that class warfare pot – get people on all sides good and agitated.
tru2tx on November 11, 2010 at 12:14 PM
Bammie is going to be so weak in another year that he will get both a challenge from the left and the right. The left may come from Howie Dean. The right (get this!) from Hil.
slickwillie2001 on November 11, 2010 at 12:14 PM
Great News, China to buy stake in Government Motors.
WTG Obama.
WoosterOh on November 11, 2010 at 12:15 PM
BTW do not be impressed with HuffPoop comment numbers. Some lonely hearts get on a thread there and can easily post over a hundred “me too!” and so forth. It rarely pays to read beyond one page of comments there.
Marcus on November 11, 2010 at 12:18 PM
WE.WON.
SouthernGent on November 11, 2010 at 12:18 PM
Soros may have to rethink this and maybe cut him loose or throw him “under the bus”!
belad on November 11, 2010 at 12:20 PM
WoosterOh@12:15,
With this news will the unions go on strike for more money from money machine china?
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letget on November 11, 2010 at 12:21 PM
Aspiring to be ‘rich’ (at least by American standards) is nearly pointless when it’s increasingly unlikely you can even make middle-class.
See, in order to be rich, there have to be well-paying jobs. Lots of them. But those are alternately being exported and dying on the vine. Yeah you can do whatever you want – so long as it doesn’t cost a cent, ’cause nobody’s buying anything.
At this point I’m considering learning Chinese…iron-fisted Communists though they may be, they’re on the rise. America is not!
Dark-Star on November 11, 2010 at 12:21 PM
canopfor on November 11, 2010 at 12:03 PM
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Like those Japanese soldiers they occasionally find living in jungles on small Pacific Islands, who don’t know that WWII ended 50 years ago.
VastRightWingConspirator on November 11, 2010 at 12:05 PM
VastRightWingConspirator:
Oh man,thats good,yup,except bring it up to speed,to 2010.
The Left would be sending in Crisis Therapists(Think now,
Mid-Term Liberal losers)from committing Hari-Kari,or thrown themselves off the cliffs!!
canopfor on November 11, 2010 at 12:23 PM
Given the gilded age levels of income disparity, I don’t necessarily blame them. Of course, their policy prescriptions will be a worse cure than the disease, but its tough to ignore the shift in wealth.
ernesto on November 11, 2010 at 12:24 PM
canopfor on November 11, 2010 at 12:03 PM
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heh
cmsinaz on November 11, 2010 at 12:05 PM
cmsinaz:————-:)
canopfor on November 11, 2010 at 12:25 PM
Th only shift in wealth has been from the individual to the government.
In the future I shall refer to you as Che.
darwin on November 11, 2010 at 12:32 PM
Riiiiiiiiiiiiight. In fact Independents and Dems reflect the mood of the country so much that the country just elected a whole bunch of Republicans and Tea Partiers.
Liberal Logic – twisted like a pretzel.
crazy_legs on November 11, 2010 at 12:33 PM
You and I both know that’s not true, or at least, does not discount the fact that real wages are down, and that the private wealth of the country is concentrated in fewer hands today than its been since our last brush with plutocratic patronage. You simply cannot deny this.
And I even qualified my statement with “the policy ‘cure’ would be worse than the disease”, but you still make sure to go the ad hominem route. Why are you such an ornery, cantankerous individual?
ernesto on November 11, 2010 at 12:35 PM
John Boehner might be winning this little game of trans-Pacific political chicken. But what does Harry Reid say?
Let’s keep kicking that can for two years, then we’ll know whose can to kick in 2012. Yes we can…kick!
Steve Z on November 11, 2010 at 12:38 PM
What polls? A bunch of liberal commie wannabes sitting around the room griping at their freebies slipping away, does not count!
capejasmine on November 11, 2010 at 12:38 PM
Sort of like “read my lips” only different.
dragondrop on November 11, 2010 at 12:44 PM
Okay – let’s just take all of the money from the wealthy and spread it around to the “uninspired to work” crowd – then the job situation will be far worse than it is now and eventually we can ALL live like a third world country (see: Cuba).
Yeah – those rich ba$tards deserve to be sucked dry. They do not do anything to deserve their wealth – just make everyone miserable and wreck the planet.
tru2tx on November 11, 2010 at 12:45 PM
temporary is not good enough, why the hell would the Republicans only want a 2 year temporary extension and give Obama a class warfare election issue in 2012?
Boehner better stick to his promise, tax cuts for everyone and make them permanent. The market wants stability and consistancy from Washington and making these tax cuts permanent will give them reason to sigh in relief.
Daemonocracy on November 11, 2010 at 12:47 PM
Yes, it’s true. Wealth is up to you to earn. It’s neither the government’s job to take your wealth, or provide it for you.
You consider “Che” to be ad hominem? I honestly thought you’d take it as a compliment. Would you prefer something else?
darwin on November 11, 2010 at 12:48 PM
You know what? That’s just too bad. Most Americans (underline MOST) do NOT want this country destroyed. Those believe in this fantasy that “the rich” are to blame can thank the Democrats for lying to them all these years.
disa on November 11, 2010 at 12:56 PM
My actual name is Ernesto; I didn’t choose it as an allusion to the brutal communist.
ernesto on November 11, 2010 at 12:57 PM
Ok, ok, calm down. It’s just that I thought you favored a big, ruthless government taking the fruits of labor and dishing a small portion of it out to buy votes … you know, like Venezuela. How about Hugo?
darwin on November 11, 2010 at 1:03 PM
And the base isn’t happy about it.
The Democratic “Al Qaeda” is never happy
J_Crater on November 11, 2010 at 1:05 PM
UH OH…..someone’s getting all wee-wee’d up!
search4truth on November 11, 2010 at 1:05 PM
The primary challenge will come from the Goracle ™. And the challenge won’t be instigated to allow Obama to sound some centrist tidbits in preparation for the general. No, the challenge will be legit, led by the only man the left will happily follow off a cliff to electoral irrelevance.
johnny alpha on November 11, 2010 at 1:06 PM
RE: Temporary extension of all tax cuts.
How about defining “temporary” as “until the seas rise 24 feet”???
Al Gore and the Envirowackos have assured all that this event is imminent, so how could the Obamacrats object???
It’s always satisfying to kill two birds with one stone!!
landlines on November 11, 2010 at 1:08 PM
Seriously, Herr Soros has a big say in whether Bammie runs in the democratic primary and who eventually wins it.
slickwillie2001 on November 11, 2010 at 1:09 PM
I was just reading some of the comments over there. What a bunch of crybabies. One actually said, “Don’t people realize we have to tax people for all the Govt programs?”
Damn, I feel like I need to be de-loused.
Geronimo on November 11, 2010 at 2:03 PM
Hey Harry Reid?! Did ya hear that ya goof! eat it!
royzer on November 11, 2010 at 8:53 PM
As long as he signs off on an extension of ALL the Bush era tax cuts, who cares…
Khun Joe on November 11, 2010 at 9:04 PM