DOA: Deficit Commission likely to reject chairmen’s plan to reduce national debt; Update: “Unacceptable,” says Pelosi
posted at 4:20 pm on November 10, 2010 by Allahpundit
We’re not serious. Yet.
Leaders of President Barack Obama’s bipartisan deficit commission on Wednesday proposed reducing the annual cost-of-living increases in Social Security, part of a bold plan to control $1 trillion-plus budget deficits…
As proposed, the plan by Chairman Erskine Bowles and former Sen. Alan Simpson (R-WY) doesn’t look like it can win support from 14 of the commission’s 18 members to force a debate in Congress. Bowles is a Democrat and was former President Bill Clinton’s White House chief of staff.
Cuts to Social Security and Medicare are making some liberals on the panel recoil. And conservative Republicans are having difficulty with options on how to raise tax revenue. The plan also calls for cuts in farm subsidies, foreign aid and the Pentagon’s budget.
Lost in all the buzz this afternoon about the Bowles/Simpson blockbuster proposal (PDF here) is that this isn’t the Commission’s final recommendation, which is supposed to be presented to Obama in three weeks. This is merely Bowles’s and Simpson’s own plan, released publicly in hopes that the jolt from media coverage will pressure the rest of the Commission’s members into striking some sort of compromise before the deadline. It’s a conversation starter, in other words, except that the main subject of “conversation” thus far is how horrified the rest of the committee is by some of the recommendations:
“This is not a package that I could support,” Representative Jan Schakowsky, an Illinois Democrat, said during a break in a private meeting by the commission. She said any package able to win 14 votes on the panel would have to look “very different” from the options being discussed…
“We’re not going to have an up-or-down vote on this,” said Durbin. “There are proposals in there that are painful. I told them I said there are things in here which inspire me and other things which I hate like the devil hates holy water. I’m not going to vote for those things.”
Some Republicans also expressed skepticism that the report would survive in its current form. New Hampshire Senator Judd Gregg called the plan a “starting point.” Representative Jeb Hensarling of Texas said “some of it I like, some of it disturbs me.”
Mind you, this “starting point” has arrived some nine months after Obama created the Commission, which he did only after a congressional attempt to create a different deficit commission died in the Senate. As for the specifics of the proposal, Tapper has a full rundown here although I recommend his post mainly for the apocalyptic quotes from hysterical progressives furious at the thought of reforming Social Security or — gasp — reducing the highest income tax brackets, both of which are endorsed by Bowles/Simpson. Sample reaction from Obama pal and AFL-CIO chief Richard Trumka: “The chairmen of the Deficit Commission just told working Americans to ‘Drop Dead.’”
TPM has a useful, detailed bullet-point summary of recommended spending cuts, tax increases, and entitlement reforms, but if you’re only interested in a broad overview, this CNN piece is better. Provisions to please conservatives: A huge tax overhaul, highlighted by a new top income tax bracket of just 23 percent; Social Security solvency via gradually raising the retirement age and reducing COLA; eliminating 10 percent of the federal work force by 2015; and various measures to slow the growth of Medicare. All in all, according to the Times, the plan calls for $3 in spending cuts for every $1 in revenue increases. And yet…
Even with the dramatic proposals, the Bowles-Simpson plan would leave deficits of about $300 billion in 2015, the year by which Obama tasked the group with balancing the federal budget, except for interest payments on a national debt that now stands at $13.7 trillion. If the changes to Social Security are dropped, the deficit would be about $400 billion in 2015…
“We’ll both be in a witness protection program when this is all over, so look us up,” Simpson told reporters.
If anything, says Samuel Staley at NRO, the plan doesn’t go far enough. And yet, it’s already dead on arrival because of how far it is willing to go. In fact, think of it as the flip side of Paul Krugman’s eternal whining about how the stimulus really should have been $2 trillion or $100 trillion or whatever: We’re working within very narrow political parameters here, even with tea partiers flying the flag of fiscal responsibility, such that even more drastic-yet-effective remedies are simply unthinkable. Never mind the Social Security tweaks; what’s going to happen when even fiscal conservatives learn that Bowles and Simpson want to take away the deduction for mortgage interest payments and add 15 cents per gallon to the federal gas tax? See Ace’s sobering thoughts for that.
I’m all about conversation-starting when it comes to entitlement reform these days, so today’s news is a moral victory if nothing else. Now all we need to do is find someone, anyone, who’s seriously willing to have that conversation. I’ll leave you with this clip of incoming Rep. Kristi Noem, a tea party favorite who’s likely to end up as the freshman voice on the GOP’s leadership team. Skip ahead to 3:15. She won’t give Candy Crowley a flat “yes” when asked whether it’s time to cut Social Security.
Update: The sage of San Francisco, fresh off her total destruction at the polls last week, has decided that the Bowles/Simpson plan simply won’t do.
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OT – Lerner is back in the hot seat.
http://www.c-span.org/
Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 4:03 PM
Good thing Christie doesn’t have to leap or …
/snark
VibrioCocci on May 22, 2013 at 4:06 PM
I hope that Christie trips, falls on his back, flailing his little arms and legs can’t turn over to get up and bakes to a huge ash heap in the sun. As for his dem challenger … I hope she’s under him when he falls.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 22, 2013 at 4:06 PM
I hope Christie wins reelection as governor.
And stays in New Jersey.
MikeknaJ on May 22, 2013 at 4:07 PM
He’ll eat her alive. (oops–I mean, he’s sure to win handily..)
SailorMark on May 22, 2013 at 4:10 PM
Tough choice for New Jerseytonianites, elect the communist or elect the unknown Buono.
Bishop on May 22, 2013 at 4:10 PM
The bigger they are, the harder they fall…
Rational Thought on May 22, 2013 at 4:12 PM
Yes, and … well … I might add … uh, um …
Yeah, I got nothing- you about summed it up.
M240H on May 22, 2013 at 4:14 PM
Is she Injun?
Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 4:14 PM
So, New jersey, ya got Bouno running as a Dem, got Christie running as a Dem-Lite…who ya gonna put out there as a Conservative?
coldwarrior on May 22, 2013 at 4:15 PM
I could care less if Christie loses as a matter of fact I hope he does. He is far more damaging to Conservatives as a Republican foil than as a one-term non-sitting governor.
Conan on May 22, 2013 at 4:15 PM
I remember once thinking Christie was on my side politically.
DanMan on May 22, 2013 at 4:17 PM
The only one who could have defeated Christie was Cory Booker, now Christie will have a cake walk.
tbrickert on May 22, 2013 at 4:20 PM
You might be able to name five people in Congress who are.
beatcanvas on May 22, 2013 at 4:21 PM
If only they could both lose.
Doomberg on May 22, 2013 at 4:21 PM
She needs to do something to offset the Governor’s
Truck Tire around his Gut….
..maybe a tattoo on her Azz cheek….
ToddPA on May 22, 2013 at 4:23 PM
Soaring property taxes? Christie’s being attacked from the right. By a Democrat. Guess I’m not really surprised.
Fenris on May 22, 2013 at 4:28 PM
She looks like she could be Nancy Pelosi’s sister –
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/02/04/eye-on-politics-why-does-barbara-buono-want-to-be-n-j-governor/
rickv404 on May 22, 2013 at 4:30 PM
It’s not for nothing that they call it ‘morbid’ obesity. Probably her best chance of winning and it’s literally not a bad chance.
Fenris on May 22, 2013 at 4:31 PM
Do you want to bet that she can out Democrat Christie !
savage24 on May 22, 2013 at 4:31 PM
If Buono looks like she has any chance, I’ll contribute to her campaign. The only “Reoublicans” I hate more than the Fat Man are Rubio, McCain, Miss Lucy and Flake.
bw222 on May 22, 2013 at 4:33 PM
She looks like a younger Nancy Pelosi.
BacaDog on May 22, 2013 at 4:35 PM
Was “cake walk” an intended pun?
bw222 on May 22, 2013 at 4:35 PM
A younger cross-eyed version of Pelosi…
PatriotRider on May 22, 2013 at 4:37 PM
I hope Issa has the Sgt. at Arms ready to lock Lerner up at the next hearing…
PatriotRider on May 22, 2013 at 4:39 PM
OT:
KMOV fires Larry Conners for facebook post.
He left the reservation and now he is getting burned.
tom daschle concerned on May 22, 2013 at 4:40 PM
Racist! Made me LMAO!
kirkill on May 22, 2013 at 4:41 PM
Good,let the dems spend their money on a race they can’t win…
right2bright on May 22, 2013 at 4:44 PM
On the surface, Buono looks like a much more appealing option than Christie – seriously, how can anyone bring themselves to vote for Christie again?
Pork-Chop on May 22, 2013 at 4:46 PM
Fat chance.
James on May 22, 2013 at 4:49 PM
Stapuff Marshmellow Man the gun grabbing scheistkoff.
Yea, OrderedPair that’s a great conclusion. (@ 4:06PM)
If he falls over he can’t be used by the Manure Spreading Media and shilled to the R’s as a viable canidate for POTUS in 2016.
Gawd help us if he becomes a distraction/diversion in the primaries.
Missilengr on May 22, 2013 at 4:55 PM
On the other hand, she does have the benefit of being a Democrat.
No small thing in New Jersey.
There Goes the Neighborhood on May 22, 2013 at 5:00 PM
Is she Injun?
Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 4:14 PM
only if it helps her.
aceinstall on May 22, 2013 at 5:20 PM
The only one who could have defeated Christie was Cory Booker, now Christie will have a cake walk.
tbrickert on May 22, 2013 at 4:20 PM
Was “cake walk” an intended pun?
bw222 on May 22, 2013 at 4:35 PM
he doesnt look like he lets cake walk past
aceinstall on May 22, 2013 at 5:22 PM
100% yes.
talking_mouse on May 22, 2013 at 5:24 PM
Exit question: What would be the harm if she won?
faraway on May 22, 2013 at 5:24 PM
What difference, at this point, does it make anyway?
kirkill on May 22, 2013 at 5:27 PM
run a 3rd party, split the vote, can them both.
dmacleo on May 22, 2013 at 5:30 PM
Christie will eat her for lunch (both literally and figuratively). ;-)
tommy71 on May 22, 2013 at 5:59 PM
That race, current polls notwithstanding, will be decided by five points or less. And likely in favor of Bouno
SAMinVA on May 22, 2013 at 6:33 PM
She looks to much like Lois Lerner for low information voters to tell the difference.
meci on May 22, 2013 at 6:51 PM
I can’t believe I’m going to stick up for christie but he’s taken on the unions and for that he has my gratitude.
As for his stance on gun control, the muslim outreach situation, the higher property taxes (which is a total joke because the tax is proportional to the price of the house so that means prices of homes in NJ are high meaning people want to live there – supply/demand/bernanke pumping up miney supply and driving down interest rates for flippers to come and sell old homes for higher prices BLAME THE REALTORS not christie), his other soft marginal republican attributes which I wish someone would list but most importantly, he needs to be in there for the 2020 census to redistrict and make more red districts (if possible). Does Jersey have term limits? If so then he’s out before 202o anyways but if not, keep him in just for redistricting alone.
athenadelphi on May 22, 2013 at 7:05 PM
I’m not particularly interested in Chris Christie’s political fortunes at this point. He’ll get no support from me. Maybe Barry will throw him an endorsement.
Kensington on May 22, 2013 at 7:09 PM
Maybe I’ll give her a nice obama embrace in the form of a campaign contribution.
voiceofreason on May 22, 2013 at 7:55 PM
Is she claiming she’s pro-life? Give every child a chance at life (the same chance she got)?
Bet no one in Joisey notices the dichotomy.
Squiggy on May 22, 2013 at 8:08 PM
She’s probably more Conservative than the Fatboi.
HondaV65 on May 22, 2013 at 8:14 PM
I’m not particularly interested in Chris Christie. Maybe Barry BAMSTAHHHHHHH!!!!! YOU DA MANNNNNNNNNNN BAMMMMMMMY BABYYYY!!! LOVE YA BARRY OL BUDDY OL PALLLLLLL!!!!!! YAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kon on May 7:09 PM
cableguy615 on May 22, 2013 at 8:15 PM