Dems to Pelosi: What’s the rush?

posted at 8:48 am on November 10, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Old and busted: Republican worries that Nancy Pelosi would try to use the lame-duck session to shove more of her radical change through Congress before losing her grip on power.  New hotness: Democratic worries that Nancy Pelosi will use the lame-duck session to shove the failed radical leadership down the throats of her caucus.  After the battle between Steny Hoyer and James Clyburn began getting heated over the two remaining positions after Pelosi’s refusal to step down from the top spot, House Democrats have begun wondering just why their leadership wants to run immediately into a food fight.  Two Democrats have begun circulating a letter among colleagues demanding a delay in leadership elections until the caucus has time to absorb just what their historical drubbing really means:

Reps. Marcy Kaptur (D- Ohio) and Peter Defazio (D-Oregon) say in the letter that the “historic results” of the Democrat’s 60-seat loss in the House is one reason to push back leadership selection.

The letter comes as the soon-to-be former House Democratic majority leaders are embroiled in a controversy over who will lead the Democrats when the House changes to Republican hands in January.

Defazio is a known critic of the Democratic leadership and has vocalized his opposition to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D- California) remaining in a leadership role. Kaptur has occasionally broken with leadership, but her spokesman told CNN that Kaptur’s request to delay the elections is not about Pelosi, but about giving Democratic members some time to return to Washington and discuss future moves for all leadership slots before any decisions are made.

Perhaps Kaptur wants to make this as impersonal as possible, but the letter itself makes it plain that the huge loss should have Democrats reconsidering their entire leadership and direction:

We cannot ignore the historical results of these elections. At a minimum, we lost 60 seats, with a few races still to call. According to the exit polls, we lost a majority of both male and female voters, reversing the last four years of Democratic gains. Two years ago, President Obama won a majority of the female vote by 13 points. We also lost a majority of voters over 30 years of age, including an 18 point margin for seniors. We lost the independent vote by 16 points, compared to President Obama’s 8 point margin. Finally we lost a majority of voters earning more than $50,000 a year.

Considering these disturbing exit polls, we believe we should not rush to elect a leadership slate next week, but rather spend more time to understand these historic losses. Before we chart a new path forward, we need to understand where we erred to avoid repeating past mistakes.

Note the key phrase “where we erred” and “past mistakes.”  That is a direct challenge to the entire current leadership, which now wants to rush through a decision on how to get five people into four chairs.  Until now, the Democratic Party line has been that voters were too stupid to appreciate all of the wonderful things Democrats did for them during the past four years, with no acknowledgment whatsoever that they made any errors or mistakes at all except perhaps in failing to talk more about all of the wonderful things Democrats did for those really stupid voters.

Perhaps the rest of the caucus is beginning to realize a few things on their own.  First, a rush to settle the current leadership conundrum essentially locks out anyone else from leadership or having a voice in the direction of the new minority.  Second, keeping the same people in place who just led the old majority off a cliff doesn’t bode well for their next march in 2012.  And third, failing to understand where that leadership went off the rails before putting them back in charge means no accountability and no opportunity for corrections and fresh thinking.

On the other hand, one can see a kind of poetic justice in watching Nancy Pelosi steamroll her own caucus in the same manner she steamrolled ObamaCare over the voters who demanded a stop to it, shoving 3,000-page bills through with just a couple of days for notice and advising us that Pelosi had to pass the bill before we could find out what’s in it.  If the Democrats who are just waking up to how that feels really do wonder how they could have lost more seats in the House than any party since 1938, they should understand that this is how the Democrats made the voters feel over the last two years.


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(munching caramel-covered popcorn)

Go, Nancy! Go!

Use the gavel if they get fresh!

Good Lt on November 10, 2010 at 8:50 AM

Git her done!

JimK on November 10, 2010 at 8:52 AM

What’s the rush? Botox only lasts for so long.

SouthernGent on November 10, 2010 at 8:53 AM

OT: Some here hate Beck, but he warned about this just a few days ago

Food price fears as US warns on crop yields

WoosterOh on November 10, 2010 at 8:53 AM

What’s the rush? Botox only lasts for so long.

SouthernGent on November 10, 2010 at 8:53 AM

That was a good one.

WoosterOh on November 10, 2010 at 8:54 AM

Hey dems, sucks doesn’t it?

cmsinaz on November 10, 2010 at 8:54 AM

Pelosi for Minority Leader!

Rode Werk on November 10, 2010 at 8:55 AM

It’s all about the O (messaging). I’m sure the dems will take a few of themselves out. That will be sweet.

Brat4life on November 10, 2010 at 8:56 AM

I’m not sure I get it…is the fear that the reps just voted out by Pelosi’s idiocy will vote to put her back in power right before hitting up the unemployment line?

James on November 10, 2010 at 8:57 AM

Defazio is a known critic of the Democratic leadership and has vocalized his opposition to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D- California) remaining in a leadership role. Kaptur has occasionally broken with leadership, but her spokesman told CNN that Kaptur’s request to delay the elections is not about Pelosi, but about giving Democratic members some time to return to Washington and discuss future moves for all leadership slots before any decisions are made.

Cat fight!

mankai on November 10, 2010 at 8:57 AM

Utter arrogance by the Fascist-Democratic leadership.

rbj on November 10, 2010 at 8:59 AM

If the Democrats who are just waking up to how that feels really do wonder how they could have lost more seats in the House than any party since 1938, they should understand that this is how the Democrats made the voters feel over the last two years.

welcome to our world, Dems.

ted c on November 10, 2010 at 9:00 AM

One blind lemming leading the others…

fossten on November 10, 2010 at 9:01 AM

I’m not sure that these Dems have gotten the message. We tried the “pretty please” method and it didn’t get us anywhere with Nancy either. Then we tried the “hell no” method and that surely didn’t work any better. Maybe the “handcuff” method should be attempted???

ted c on November 10, 2010 at 9:01 AM

The Republicans are loving this. It’s their job now to allow the Dems to implode. They also have to block, by any means necessary, any legislation that might actually have a chance to be pushed through in this short Lame Duck Session. Their time will come in January. Just hold the line until then.

And pass the popcorn.

kingsjester on November 10, 2010 at 9:02 AM

WoosterOh on November 10, 2010 at 8:53 AM

I stopped listening to Beck for a short period about 20 months ago because I didn’t believe him.. However what he was saying at that time stuck in my head and when it became a reality I realized I had better tune back in and listen carefully. Rush and Glenn are a daily listen for me, as well as my morning and evening visits to HA, Instapundit, and Big Government…

Keemo on November 10, 2010 at 9:02 AM

Dingy has volunteered to take her fishing at his compound on Lake Tahoe.

slickwillie2001 on November 10, 2010 at 9:03 AM

Please Please Please re-elect the Frisco Witch!!!!

She has accomplished so much for the Dems and please re-elect Harry Reid……ditto. They are both jewels of colossal accomplishment…..for the good of the country Dems do it.

PappyD61 on November 10, 2010 at 9:07 AM

Pelosi and Hoyer are operating under the delusion that the 2012 election will bring up turnout, and catapult them back into the majority. The turnout will indeed be higher in 2012, but it isn’t going to vote the way that they expect.

Vashta.Nerada on November 10, 2010 at 9:08 AM

Here’s hoping that when the next shoe falls, it falls on the Democrats who have not yet “got it”.

Roy Rogers on November 10, 2010 at 9:10 AM

If the Demicans remain true to form, they’ll force their own members to vote on leaders without benefit of reading their 2,000 page position statements and then tell them they’ll find out what’s in those statements after the vote.

If that process was good enough for the American electorate, why wouldn’t it be good enough for Demicans?

martin.hale on November 10, 2010 at 9:12 AM

It’s a trap! Watch out for Card Check!

That would get them back in in 2012.

OldEnglish on November 10, 2010 at 9:14 AM

The only problem with re-electing Pelosi as Minority Leader is that should the Dems somehow take back the HR (unforeseen GOP scandal, etc.), she would again be Speaker.

{shudder}

mankai on November 10, 2010 at 9:14 AM

I think that there are no better people to represent the Dems than Nancy and Harry. Stay, Oh please stay…

Kuffar on November 10, 2010 at 9:16 AM

If Obama had any real ones, he’d give Pelosi the (subtle) message to get lost, alas…he can’t annoy the commies on the far left.

Hilarity is having a ball.

Delusions’ stocks are up too.

Ed, great summation. The other hilarity is that Pelosi now is “inviting and open to GOP ideas”…heh…she thinks she gets to keep the hammer/agenda.

Love it when the left is delusional. What a great country the U.S. America still is! 2012: Obama, the rest of the delusional bums and the most dangerous of all men, to the good land/lady, Soros. Block his aims at all costs – the survival of the free world depends on it.

Schadenfreude on November 10, 2010 at 9:17 AM

Reps. Marcy Kaptur (D- Ohio) and Peter Defazio (D-Oregon) say in the letter that the “historic results” of the Democrat’s 60-seat loss in the House is one reason to push back leadership selection.

If Nancy could swing it, one of the last things the current Congress would do is stage show trials for Kaptur and Defazio for their challenge to the approved heterodoxy, and force them to incriminate themselves and recant in public before they’re exiled to the gulag (which in Pelosi’s mind, is any area between I-5 and I-95, except maybe Chicago, Vail, Austin or the Sundance ski resort in Utah).

jon1979 on November 10, 2010 at 9:20 AM

We’ll settle the leadership issue right after we get 2010 budget done. Yeah, right!

smellthecoffee on November 10, 2010 at 9:21 AM

What’s the rush? Botox only lasts for so long.

SouthernGent on November 10, 2010 at 8:53 AM

Okay, that made me snort!

ladyingray on November 10, 2010 at 9:23 AM

I wonder whether Rush has in mind some kind of Operation Chaos intended to get “constituents” from around the country to call Democratic members of Congress to encourage them to support Pelosi.

OT: Chuck Todd just interviewed George Miller from CA. What an idiot. He just said that we’re now insuring 55 million more people because of Obamacare. I thought Obama said 31 million, which was a bogus number in itself.

Anyway, Miller was all in for Pelosi. He argued that the GOP was terrified of her. Beyond that, he said that taking Pelosi out is like pulling Eli Manning in a game against the Jets because the Jets fans are booing him. He also went on a rant against the GOP in Congress since Obama’s election. Given Todd’s nervous smile, I think Todd didn’t even believe what he was accusing the GOP of.

BuckeyeSam on November 10, 2010 at 9:28 AM

Pelosi is a malignant growth on the side of the Republic.

rplat on November 10, 2010 at 9:28 AM

The Dems should just throw a bucket of water on that witch and get it over with if they want new leadership.

search4truth on November 10, 2010 at 9:32 AM

I stopped listening to Beck for a short period about 20 months ago because I didn’t believe him.. However what he was saying at that time stuck in my head and when it became a reality I realized I had better tune back in and listen carefully. Rush and Glenn are a daily listen for me, as well as my morning and evening visits to HA, Instapundit, and Big Government…

Keemo on November 10, 2010 at 9:02 AM

Too much Beck, and you’ll find yourself poking the business end of a 30 aught 6 out your window well, with your feet fighting for room in your basement filled with distilled water and canned vegetables grown from your survival garden. Fine in small doses, but don’t overdo it. Paranoia we destroy-ya.

smellthecoffee on November 10, 2010 at 9:33 AM

Apologize for the O.T. comment.

smellthecoffee on November 10, 2010 at 9:34 AM

If the Democrats who are just waking up to how that feels really do wonder how they could have lost more seats in the House than any party since 1938, they should understand that this is how the Democrats made the voters feel over the last two years.


The dhims are now finding themselves on the “comes around”
side of the Karma Carousel.

It’s going to be interesting to see just who gets flattened.

If it’s Pelousy watch out for a Botox debris splatter field.

ontherocks on November 10, 2010 at 9:46 AM

The letter comes as the soon-to-be former House Democratic majority leaders are embroiled in a controversy over who will lead the Democrats when the House changes to Republican hands in January.

The Dems eat their own.
Pelosi’s actions through the current Congress towards her fellow Dems remind me of the painting by Goya entitled “Saturn Devouring His Children”. The resemblance is uncanny!

tpitman on November 10, 2010 at 9:55 AM

It’s a trap! Watch out for Card Check!

That would get them back in in 2012.

OldEnglish on November 10, 2010 at 9:14 AM

Don’t forget amnesty.

Vashta.Nerada on November 10, 2010 at 9:56 AM

Note the key phrase “where we erred” and “past mistakes.”

That is EXACTLY what the Democratic leadership will not admit. In Nancy’s altered reality, the leadership made no mistakes, ergo, the current leadership should remain.

The extreme left of the Democratic Party does not give a damn about the party itself. They are concerned about their ability to remain in power.

GarandFan on November 10, 2010 at 10:02 AM

Don’t forget amnesty.

Vashta.Nerada on November 10, 2010 at 9:56 AM

I must admit that I’m hoping that’s off the burner now.

OldEnglish on November 10, 2010 at 10:04 AM

I think it’s s fabulous idea to keep Pelosi and Reid right there along side the third amigo Obama!

CCRWM on November 10, 2010 at 10:12 AM

I want Nancy P as the minority leader. I want to watch her hand the gavel to John Boehner. I want to see the look on her face. That will be so priceless.

Jdripper on November 10, 2010 at 10:14 AM

smellthecoffee on November 10, 2010 at 9:33 AM

I like to watch Beck too, lately I end up feeling like stocking up on canned goods :)

I am enjoying George Swartz aka Soros, getting the Beck treatment…sorry old scary dude, it’s November and ratings and all, you understand nothing personal LOL!

Dr Evil on November 10, 2010 at 10:15 AM

Glenn Beck making ratings out of old Nazis Collaborator. Someone had to do it. Ole Scary Dude isn’t going to be around forever…..it just feels like it GRIN.

Dr Evil on November 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM

The lame duck will not be able to quack. They don’t have the balls to do any more damage but they are starting to think of stories that will get put out by the msm. The group of dedicated politicians that remain will try to confuse us hoping to keep their jobs and power. This will come from the right and the left. Maybe if they hadn’t sat in their offices declining to answer the phones and gone blindly after their leaders, more of them would have remained. We’ve got them on the run.

Kissmygrits on November 10, 2010 at 10:19 AM

Apologize for the O.T. comment.

smellthecoffee on November 10, 2010 at 9:34 AM

I don’t think it is off topic. George Soros and his shadow government got dealt with last Tuesday. Now we are watching them deal with the aftermath. Soros is the one pumping funds into the progressives. George Soros has made 4 trips to the Obama White House. WHY?

Dr Evil on November 10, 2010 at 10:21 AM

I think if the Democrats do elect Pelosi to the minority leadership it means George Soros’s progressive agenda is a live and well. The Dems are going to end up with what 188 seats? there are about 80 progressives in Congress. This would be a good time for the Democrats to take their party back from Ole Scary Dude. That means a NO vote for Nancy, and the rest of her coven. If they want to stay marginalized in 2012, they should keep the Progressive leadership.

Dr Evil on November 10, 2010 at 10:24 AM

Solution: Throw a big congratulatory party and all will be well with those gullible backbenchers. I mean come on, they fell hook, line and sinker for Clinton telling them passing ObamaCare would serve them well in the elections. They will believe anything they are told to believe, and like it.

txmomof6 on November 10, 2010 at 10:29 AM

Solution: Throw a big congratulatory party and all will be well with those gullible backbenchers. I mean come on, they fell hook, line and sinker for Clinton telling them passing ObamaCare would serve them well in the elections. They will believe anything they are told to believe, and like it.

txmomof6 on November 10, 2010 at 10:29 AM

It all comes down to they lost – their influence will be nominal. Come 2012 if the Republicans are smart enough, they will use the same formula to marginalize them even more.

What might really get Nancy’s coven’s attention is probes and investigations…just saying if they really want to party. How difficult would it be to turn their grief into a House Of Pain just saying I came to get down ;)

Dr Evil on November 10, 2010 at 10:37 AM

Question: Why does the sitting Congress get to elect the leadership for the next Congress? I mean I know there will not be very many Dem Freshmen :-), but do they really want the DDMs (Dead Dems Walking) voting on the next leadership team?

yakyak on November 10, 2010 at 10:44 AM

You might see mo’s school lunch bill brought up, 4.5B before Jan. This needs to be stopped also!

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/flotus-4-5-billion-school-lunch-bill-could-get-lame-duck-passage/

L

letget on November 10, 2010 at 10:59 AM

GO NANCY GO!! Excuse me, I need to get the popcorn popper!

oldleprechaun on November 10, 2010 at 11:28 AM

Don’t forget amnesty.

Vashta.Nerada on November 10, 2010 at 9:56 AM
I must admit that I’m hoping that’s off the burner now.

OldEnglish on November 10, 2010 at 10:04 AM

Harry pandered for Hispanic votes by saying he would push for a vote on the DREAM Act before 2011.

They also may try to shove through the DISCLOSE Act through the Senate again to try to restrict Citizens United.

And RedState had a clip from National Journal on how Pelosi wants to push through a pork-laden supplemental appropriations bill, and is working with Senate RINOs to get it past cloture.

Wethal on November 10, 2010 at 11:52 AM

Nancy Pelosi will be Obama’s challenger in 2012. She will take the liberal and women votes from Obama.

djaymick on November 10, 2010 at 12:56 PM

If Nancy could swing it, one of the last things the current Congress would do is stage show trials for Kaptur and Defazio for their challenge to the approved heterodoxy, and force them to incriminate themselves and recant in public before they’re exiled to the gulag (which in Pelosi’s mind, is any area between I-5 and I-95, except maybe Chicago, Vail, Austin or the Sundance ski resort in Utah).

LOL

YehuditTX on November 10, 2010 at 2:21 PM

Ah, the warm glow of schadenfreude.

jnelchef on November 10, 2010 at 3:28 PM

What’s the rush? Nancy knows that if they take a while to consider what the midterm losses mean, she wouldn’t be elected to bathroom custodian, let alone Minority Leader.

“Don’t Think – Just Vote!(tm)” – The new dhimmi slogan for the upcoming 2012 elections.

Timothy S. Carlson on November 10, 2010 at 6:21 PM