AP poll: Palin’s favorable rating highest in almost a year

posted at 7:20 pm on November 10, 2010 by Allahpundit

Actually, Rasmussen put her favorables at 48 percent back in September, but Nate Silver’s argued at length lately that Ras polls showing rosy numbers for a Republican should be taken with a goodly chunk of salt. Toss that result out and the last time she hit 46 percent was all the way back in December 2009. One poll doesn’t make a trend, but between the election buzz surrounding the tea party, the debut of her new show, and the relentless souring of America on all things Democrat, it’s worth flagging this now to see whether other polls replicate the result in the next few weeks.

The AP’s dopey takeaway from the results, incidentally? Palin is “polarizing,” in case you hadn’t heard.

Palin, the former Alaska governor and 2008 vice presidential nominee, is the best-known and most divisive of the bunch. In the wake of her high-profile role in endorsing candidates all over the country, 46 percent of Americans view her favorably, 49 percent unfavorably, and 5 percent don’t know enough about her to form an opinion…

In terms of winning the 2012 nomination, the question is how Republican-leaning Americans view the contenders. Palin comes out on top. Among adults who identify themselves as Republicans or GOP-leaning independents, 79 percent view her favorably, and 17 percent unfavorably.

These findings worry many Republican officials. The poll suggests Palin might be able to win the nomination. But among independents_they could be the deciding factor in the general election — just 43 percent hold a favorable view of Palin, compared with 61 percent with a positive view of Obama.

Those overall figures are similar to where she was at late last year. Huckabee’s current net favorables among Republicans actually top hers, if only slightly: He clocks in at 74/10, numbers so rosy that I’m starting to think he might end up running even if he’s otherwise inclined not to just because he consistently polls so well. (Ross Douthat calls him “persistently underestimated” and notes that, per PPP, he’s actually the early frontrunner in Pennsylvania, of all places.) As for Romney, he’s at 64/18 among GOPers, fully 15 points behind Palin in favorables and a point ahead in unfavorables. Given the albatross of RomneyCare around his neck, I’m not sure whether to consider that a moral victory or an early warning sign that he’s going to flame out. As for Mitch Daniels, who’s apparently getting closer and closer to declaring, he’s at 24/13 with 63 percent saying they don’t know enough about him yet. Someone knows something about him, though, if his unfavorables already exceed Huckabee’s, and I’ve got a hunch I know why. That “truce” on social issues is going to hover over him every minute of the campaign, huh?

Via PalinTV, here she is talking about being “in it to win it” — if she ends up being in it. Exit question: Given the losses by Angle, O’Donnell, Ken Buck, and, perhaps, Miller in her home state, will she take that as a sign that maybe America’s not ready to elect a tea-party president yet and that 2016 (when the GOP won’t have to run against an incumbent) is a better bet? Or does the virtual certainty of having to face Christie and Rubio in that primary mean that it’s now or never?

Update: Speaking of tea-party presidents, Rick Santorum claims that there are only two candidates in the field who can realistically claim that mantle. Gary Johnson — and him.


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FOOD FIGHT!!!!

darwin-t on November 10, 2010 at 7:22 PM

Allah, Why do you insist on posting the negative Palin polls that… that….that…..

Allah is Awesome! We love Allah!!!!

(lol!!!)

portlandon on November 10, 2010 at 7:22 PM

and that is one of the key reasons she is hated

rob verdi on November 10, 2010 at 7:24 PM

Let loose the hounds!

SlaveDog on November 10, 2010 at 7:25 PM

BattleStations!

portlandon on November 10, 2010 at 7:27 PM

2016 (when the GOP won’t have to run against an incumbent)

Oh ye of little faith, Allah.

If things keep going south…Obama may have another inter-party battle on his hands.

Also: DAMMIT ALLAH YOU PALIN-HATING RINO POLLS ARE POINTLESS THEY MEAN NOTHING SHUT UP-oh, it’s positive? YAY! PALIN 2012! LANDSLIDE VICTORY!!!!!111

MadisonConservative on November 10, 2010 at 7:27 PM

Want to watch a Lib freak…just say the name Sarah LOL

Cookies Mom on November 10, 2010 at 7:29 PM

Jindal, Christie, Pawlenty, Daniels, Ryan

No Mitt, No Palin.

Please….

rickyricardo on November 10, 2010 at 7:29 PM

Remind me again why she isn’t the Republican Obama? And remind me why are considering doing something as irresponsible as what the Democrats did in 2008?

Raisedbywolves on November 10, 2010 at 7:30 PM

just 43 percent hold a favorable view of Palin, compared with 61 percent with a positive view of Obama.

61% postive view of Obama makes me wonder just how “independant” they realy are.

tencole on November 10, 2010 at 7:30 PM

Palin, the former Alaska governor and 2008 vice presidential nominee, is the best-known and most divisive of the bunch.

Here we go again. The same people who attack Palin at every opportunity then turn around and call her divisive.

We saw the exact same thing with George W. Bush. And with Ronald Reagan. The fact that some people are deranged about them is always blamed on the person they’re obsessed about.

It’s about as ludicrous as the man who killed his parents, then threw himself on the mercy of the court as an orphan.

tom on November 10, 2010 at 7:32 PM

I remember well what people and the media said about Ronald Reagan in 1980.

It’s deja vu all over again.

Rebar on November 10, 2010 at 7:37 PM

Let’s be honest. There’s a number of Libearls who would still give Sarah an unfavorable rating if she were being compared to beelzebub

wiseprince on November 10, 2010 at 7:37 PM

Allah, we both know she’s running, she’ll win the primary, and with Rubio as VP, she beats Obama

It’s all about turnout.

And I think the problem with those “teaparty” senators you mentioned were specific to them – COD was bonkers, buck had gaffes on abortion AND gays, angle was defrauded by the casinos and unions

No tea party respect for Johnson in Wisconsin, Rubio in FL, Toomey in PA? Rand Paul?

Hmmm

picklesgap on November 10, 2010 at 7:37 PM

Want to watch a Lib RINO freak…just say the name Sarah LOL

Cookies Mom on November 10, 2010 at 7:29 PM

FIFY

Ogabe on November 10, 2010 at 7:38 PM

Resistance is futile. You will be Palinized. We add your ideological distinctiveness to our own, then spit it out. Resistance is futile.

SouthernGent on November 10, 2010 at 7:38 PM

Remind me again why she isn’t the Republican Obama? And remind me why are considering doing something as irresponsible as what the Democrats did in 2008?

Raisedbywolves on November 10, 2010 at 7:30 PM

Not a leftist. Not someone who’s never held an executive position. Not someone who associates with terrorists. Not someone who’s ever been connected with voter fraud. Not married to someone who’s never been proud of America and thinks America is downright mean. Never won an election by parliamentary maneuvers to disqualify opponents. Never leaked her opponents sealed divorce records to win an election.

Just for starters.

She has nothing in common with Obama, so calling her the “Republican Obama” is the height of absurdity.

tom on November 10, 2010 at 7:38 PM

Let’s be honest. There’s a number of Libearls who would still give Sarah an unfavorable rating if she were being compared to beelzebub

wiseprince on November 10, 2010 at 7:37 PM

There are a number of Liberals who say that Sarah IS beelzebub

Cookies Mom on November 10, 2010 at 7:39 PM

61% postive view of Obama makes me wonder just how “independant” they realy are.

tencole on November 10, 2010 at 7:30 PM

I just don’t believe that number.

whbates on November 10, 2010 at 7:39 PM

Highlights of the AP-GfK poll:

1)As to whether Obama deserves to be re-elected in 2012 only 39% say yes and 54% say no. Several pollsters have asked the same question since the summer and they have all shown results around the 40% mark. Bottom line: Obama cannot win a second term if only 2 out 5 voters want him back in the Oval Office.

2)AP is not quite correct in his thread heading. Let me explain why. In October’s poll they polled ADULTS as well as LIKELY VOTERS. For ADULTS Palin’s F/UF was 43/53 and for LV it was 49/50.

So having said that let me say that extrapolating from October’s results if Palin’s F/UF were among LV, it is quite conceivable that her F/UF would be around 52/46.

But sticking with ADULTS 46/49 represents a net gain of 7 points in a month and a whopping 17 gain since September when she posted 38/58.

3)And this poll is again living proof that the dark horses have no chance whatsoever in the primary horserace. For those of you who love drama, the drama will be played out among the top 4: Romney, Palin, Huckabee and Gingrich. The others I predict will not even get out of the starting gate.

technopeasant on November 10, 2010 at 7:40 PM

Update: Speaking of tea-party presidents, Rick Santorum claims that there are only two candidates in the field who can realistically claim that mantle. Gary Johnson — and him.

Nice try Sanitorium!
Where were you and who all did you endorse during the Wipeout?
Why should we nominate someone who already lost PA once?

Santorum is considered a social and fiscal conservative.[2] He is particularly known for his stances on the U.S. invasion of Iraq, Social Security, intelligent design, homosexuality, and the Terri Schiavo case.[3] Santorum was defeated 59% to 41% in the 2006 U.S. Senate election by Democratic candidate Bob Casey, Jr. This was the largest margin of defeat for an incumbent Senator since 1980.

Social issues need to be left to the States and taken away from the feds and activist judges!
Your past indicates thats not where you make your stand and thus you would lose again!

dhunter on November 10, 2010 at 7:40 PM

But among independents_they could be the deciding factor in the general election — just 43 percent hold a favorable view of Palin, compared with 61 percent with a positive view of Obama.

Are they talking personally or politically? No way in hell 61% of Independents view Obama favorably as president. Maybe as a person, but not in his role as president.

amerpundit on November 10, 2010 at 7:40 PM

Exit question: Given the losses by Angle, O’Donnell, Ken Buck, and, perhaps, Miller in her home state, will she take that as a sign that maybe America’s not ready to elect a tea-party president yet and that 2016 (when the GOP won’t have to run against an incumbent) is a better bet?

In other words, does she care about her country enough not to seek the GOP nomination, even if she is very capable of winning it, because it would mean four more years of Obama. I don’t know the answer to that.

Mark1971 on November 10, 2010 at 7:41 PM

Oh my!

Dongemaharu on November 10, 2010 at 7:42 PM

Sarah’s got the goods. I have no doubt about that. The only doubt is whether she should hold back until 2016 to make her play for it. What I’d really like to see is for her to use the next few years to bring the GOP back to its conservative bearings, and then accept a draft in 2016.

petefrt on November 10, 2010 at 7:45 PM

In other words, does she care about her country enough not to seek the GOP nomination, even if she is very capable of winning it, because it would mean four more years of Obama. I don’t know the answer to that.

Mark1971 on November 10, 2010 at 7:41 PM

Oh I love the double standard here. Palin busts her ass – takes all the risks and fights the Administration for two years while Mittens has one finger in the wind and the other up a dark cavity in his posterior.

But if she REALLY cares about her country – she’ll step aside and let an establishment loon run?

Give me a break. The person that can fix this nation will have my vote – and right now it looks like Sarah Palin.

HondaV65 on November 10, 2010 at 7:45 PM

HondaV65 on November 10, 2010 at 7:45 PM

Second Dat!

dhunter on November 10, 2010 at 7:46 PM

Remind me again why she isn’t the Republican Obama?

Raisedbywolves on November 10, 2010 at 7:30 PM

She takes stands on issues, for one.

alwaysfiredup on November 10, 2010 at 7:46 PM

Remind me again why she isn’t the Republican Obama?

Raisedbywolves on November 10, 2010 at 7:30 PM

She exhibits loyalty to those who stuck their necks out for her, for another.

alwaysfiredup on November 10, 2010 at 7:47 PM

If you want a meaningful poll, do Palin vs Hillary. Hillary will rip Bammie’s guts out in the democratic primary. Bad blood, scores to even up, etc.

slickwillie2001 on November 10, 2010 at 7:48 PM

Palin is “polarizing,” in case you hadn’t heard.

well you know it is all about that Polar Bear she brings with her. /

upinak on November 10, 2010 at 7:48 PM

Remind me again why she isn’t the Republican Obama?

Raisedbywolves on November 10, 2010 at 7:30 PM

She has core principles that she doesn’t lie about to deceive the public about her intents.

Inanemergencydial on November 10, 2010 at 7:49 PM

Remind me again why she isn’t the Republican Obama?

Raisedbywolves on November 10, 2010 at 7:30 PM

Cuz she’s the republican hillary.

lorien1973 on November 10, 2010 at 7:49 PM

Oh I love the double standard here. Palin busts her ass – takes all the risks and fights the Administration for two years while Mittens has one finger in the wind and the other up a dark cavity in his posterior.

She wasn’t drafted to do that. She decided to, and it’s resulted in quite a bit of wealth and celebrity for her family. Which is fine, but let’s not pretend she was taking the bullet here.

But if she REALLY cares about her country – she’ll step aside and let an establishment loon run?

Or, you know, a non-establishment person who can win.

Give me a break. The person that can fix this nation will have my vote – and right now it looks like Sarah Palin.

HondaV65 on November 10, 2010 at 7:45 PM

She’ll go down in the long annals of candidates Hot Air people backed who couldn’t win. Like Christine O’Donnell, to cite a recent example.

Unless her numbers change drastically, Palin can win the nomination but will lose the general.

amerpundit on November 10, 2010 at 7:50 PM

HondaV65 on November 10, 2010 at 7:45 PM

Second Dat!

dhunter on November 10, 2010 at 7:46 PM

That’s what the washed up establishment has come to. Rather than promote their own ideas – and fight for conservatism – their main argument will be to accuse Palin of being “unpatriotic” if she runs for the nomination.

That’s pretty damn sick – and it’s a standard that wouldn’t be applied to Mitt Romney – even though he’s got significant baggage.

Additionally – the establishment types don’t realize that even she doesn’t run – she’ll still be their worst nightmare … because she’ll endorse someone in the primary early and that person will be the nominee.

Newflash for the elites – Sarah Palin is here and there is no easy answer for your asses.

HondaV65 on November 10, 2010 at 7:50 PM

slickwillie2001 on November 10, 2010 at 7:48 PM

Fun punditry, but at current conditions there’s no way she challenges him because she’d just lose to the Republican. That fight would be way nastier than the 2008 primary and would weaken them both considerably. She’ll be the good soldier until she resigns and then be a private person until she sees a good time to get back into politics.

alwaysfiredup on November 10, 2010 at 7:51 PM

HondaV65 on November 10, 2010 at 7:45 PM

If Palin makes a serious attempt at the GOP nomination in 2012 she is either delusional or cares about herself more than the good of the country.

Mark1971 on November 10, 2010 at 7:51 PM

I like Sarah but the GOP has better options in 2 years.
You can be somewhat polarizing ( Reagan) but there are a lot of purple type states that will not vote for her no matter what( which sucks).
2012 needs to be Hope & Change, Republican style.
The entire 2008 cast need not apply.

jjshaka on November 10, 2010 at 7:51 PM

She’ll go down in the long annals of candidates Hot Air people backed who couldn’t win. Like Christine O’Donnell, to cite a recent example.

Unless her numbers change drastically, Palin can win the nomination but will lose the general.

amerpundit on November 10, 2010 at 7:50 PM

Crystal balls – I got a voodoo woman who throws chicken bones down here in the Louisiana swamp behind my house – she says Palin has a shot.

I figure her “bones” are about as valid as your crystal ball.

No one would have figured Obama would have won the election 6 months from the general much less the Democratic primary.

I’m sorry – but forecasts like this are completely insane.

HondaV65 on November 10, 2010 at 7:52 PM

amerpundit on November 10, 2010 at 7:50 PM

How much for a palm reading?

Inanemergencydial on November 10, 2010 at 7:53 PM

61% postive view of Obama makes me wonder just how “independant” they realy are.

tencole on November 10, 2010 at 7:30 PM

Yeh not very. Liberals love to call themselves independent yet they talk and walk the same. It just makes them feel better.

CWforFreedom on November 10, 2010 at 7:53 PM

Remind me again why she isn’t the Republican Obama?

Raisedbywolves on November 10, 2010 at 7:30 PM

Cuz she’s the republican hillary.

lorien1973 on November 10, 2010 at 7:49 PM

oh that is a BAD comparison.

upinak on November 10, 2010 at 7:54 PM

Tea party senators WON allah

Rand Paul
Ron Johnson
Marco Rubio
Pat Toomey

Do they not count?

Look Palin is running, winning the primary, and will beat Obama if Rubio is the VP

picklesgap on November 10, 2010 at 7:54 PM

Palin is “polarizing,” in case you hadn’t heard.

SHUT UP!/ since when? Nobody told me this one, I surely can’t vote for her now…./

ted c on November 10, 2010 at 7:54 PM

If Palin makes a serious attempt at the GOP nomination in 2012 she is either delusional or cares about herself more than the good of the country.

Mark1971 on November 10, 2010 at 7:51 PM

Can we log this somewhere? You’re actually accusing her of being “unpatriotic” if she runs. Would you apply that equally to Romney? Mitch Daniels?

That’s all you elites have left isn’t it – out of ideas – out of gas – the whole of the party enthusiasm encapsulated in the Tea Party …

Has beens.

I’ll support Sarah Palin on a third party ticket over an “elite” Republican and I’ll call her a patriot – and all who vote for the elites “sell outs”.

Two sides to every coin Mark – and yours ain’t the only side.

HondaV65 on November 10, 2010 at 7:55 PM

These findings worry many Republican officials


The only Republican’s that are worried about this are the Republicans that lost elections in this last cycle and are worried they may loose elections in the coming cycle.

lwssdd on November 10, 2010 at 7:56 PM

Look Palin is running, winning the primary, and will beat Obama if Rubio is the VP

picklesgap on November 10, 2010 at 7:54 PM

Rubio is too smart of a guy to hurt his own future presidential chances by being on that ticket.

Mark1971 on November 10, 2010 at 7:56 PM

Tea party senators WON allah

Rand Paul
Ron Johnson
Marco Rubio
Pat Toomey

Do they not count?

Look Palin is running, winning the primary, and will beat Obama if Rubio is the VP

picklesgap on November 10, 2010 at 7:54 PM

I think every single one of the ones you site that won were attacked by the NRSC at one point or another.

HondaV65 on November 10, 2010 at 7:56 PM

If Palin makes a serious attempt at the GOP nomination in 2012 she is either delusional or cares about herself more than it will be for the good of the country.

Mark1971 on November 10, 2010 at 7:51 PM

FIFY. Win or lose she will make sure reform is at the table as a serious issue. Look at the push to keep earmarks right now. Those guys will be in charge in most of the administrations of the currently-declared GOP primary candidates. But they will not be a part of a Palin admin. So far there isn’t anyone else who is as credible a reformer as she.

alwaysfiredup on November 10, 2010 at 7:57 PM

HondaV65 on November 10, 2010 at 7:45 PM

I saw this speech in person last night and my initial reaction seeing her live was that she hasn’t made up her mind yet. I personally think that if she really believes that is how she can best serve, she won’t step aside.

There is a difference between seeing her answer on video and my initial reaction seeing it live. A few of us talked about how she seemed genuinely undecided on the way out but the video somehow makes it appear more like the standard political response. I can’t explain it exactly but I came away thinking she really hasn’t decided yet.

msmveritas on November 10, 2010 at 7:57 PM

Mark1971 on November 10, 2010 at 7:56 PM

Just curious – who are YOU backing?

HondaV65 on November 10, 2010 at 7:57 PM

Additionally – the establishment types don’t realize that even she doesn’t run – she’ll still be their worst nightmare … because she’ll endorse someone in the primary early and that person will be the nominee.

Newflash for the elites – Sarah Palin is here and there is no easy answer for your asses.

HondaV65 on November 10, 2010 at 7:50 PM

the anti establishment rhetoric is a bit rich since Palin was the GOP nominated VP, paired with the rinotastic Maverick no less

I wonder if heads will actually explode if she decides to endorse Romney

windansea on November 10, 2010 at 7:59 PM

Can we log this somewhere? You’re actually accusing her of being “unpatriotic” if she runs.

No. She could be delusional. I can’t get in her head. If she thinks she can be elected president, she is delusional. If she knows she is unelectable, but chooses to pursue the GOP nomination anyway, she is putting herself ahead of her country.

Mark1971 on November 10, 2010 at 7:59 PM

Just curious – who are YOU backing?

HondaV65 on November 10, 2010 at 7:57 PM

I have no idea who I will be supporting in 2012.

Mark1971 on November 10, 2010 at 8:00 PM

I can’t explain it exactly but I came away thinking she really hasn’t decided yet.

msmveritas on November 10, 2010 at 7:57 PM

Personally – I don’t think she’s running.

But that doesn’t solve the problem for the elites. Yeah sure … they’ll say “Damn Sarah Palin is UNPATRIOTIC for running!” but …

Then if she doesn’t run … SHE WILL ENDORSE SOMEONE … and that person will likely be the nominee.

In which case the elites, cry again … “Hmmmpf, Sarah Palin is UNPATRIOTIC for not allowing us to WIN!!”

You can’t win with those babies. Can they leave the party already?

HondaV65 on November 10, 2010 at 8:01 PM

No. She could be delusional. I can’t get in her head. If she thinks she can be elected president, she is delusional. If she knows she is unelectable, but chooses to pursue the GOP nomination anyway, she is putting herself ahead of her country.

Mark1971 on November 10, 2010 at 7:59 PM

Enjoying your retirement Mr. Daschle?

Inanemergencydial on November 10, 2010 at 8:01 PM

out of all those mentioned only Palin has been vetted to an inch of her life. the fact that 46% still like her is a mazing fact.

well so much for the stop Palin battleplan of the elites I think it has backfired…

unseen on November 10, 2010 at 8:01 PM

Rubio is too smart of a guy to hurt his own future presidential chances by being on that ticket.

Mark1971 on November 10, 2010 at 7:56 PM

Given the “next-in-line” history of the GOP, being a losing GOP VP candidates would seem to be a net career boost.

alwaysfiredup on November 10, 2010 at 8:01 PM

No. She could be delusional. I can’t get in her head. If she thinks she can be elected president, she is delusional. If she knows she is unelectable, but chooses to pursue the GOP nomination anyway, she is putting herself ahead of her country.

Mark1971 on November 10, 2010 at 7:59 PM

well it’s nice to know that the establishment;’s PR still works on some people. I would hate for them to go to all the trouble of brainwashing everyone and nobody being hoodwinked…..

unseen on November 10, 2010 at 8:03 PM

I have no idea who I will be supporting in 2012.

Mark1971 on November 10, 2010 at 8:00 PM

Why not? Is your crystal ball cracked? It works find for Palin – so you say. :P

Seriously – if you don’t know who you’d like to run … how about … Mittens or Mitch Daniels or Newt or Huck – or Santorum – pretend it’s down to those five – now who do you support?

HondaV65 on November 10, 2010 at 8:04 PM

Remind me again why she isn’t the Republican Obama? And remind me why are considering doing something as irresponsible as what the Democrats did in 2008?

Raisedbywolves on November 10, 2010 at 7:30 PM

if you too stupid to see the differenc eafter 2 years there really is not much hope for you

unseen on November 10, 2010 at 8:05 PM

Drama queen.

Chudi on November 10, 2010 at 8:06 PM

Why not? Is your crystal ball cracked? It works find for Palin – so you say. :P

Seriously – if you don’t know who you’d like to run … how about … Mittens or Mitch Daniels or Newt or Huck – or Santorum – pretend it’s down to those five – now who do you support?

HondaV65 on November 10, 2010 at 8:04 PM

I’m not going to commit myself to anyone. I’m going to wait and see who runs and what kind of platform they run on.

Mark1971 on November 10, 2010 at 8:07 PM

wonder if heads will actually explode if she decides to endorse Romney

windansea on November 10, 2010 at 7:59 PM

the ONLy way she could endorse Mitt and get away with not losing her entire support in a blink of an eye is if he were to win the nomination from her. So if the establishment wants some RINO cover they better hope she runs

unseen on November 10, 2010 at 8:08 PM

the anti establishment rhetoric is a bit rich since Palin was the GOP nominated VP, paired with the rinotastic Maverick no less

windansea on November 10, 2010 at 7:59 PM

McCain is antiestablishment but also a RINO. Palin was brought in to be the outsider and was never embraced by the estbalishment, so she did not join it.

alwaysfiredup on November 10, 2010 at 8:09 PM

I’m not going to commit myself to anyone. I’m going to wait and see who runs and what kind of platform they run on.

Mark1971 on November 10, 2010 at 8:07 PM

And yet for some reason you have not did a “wait and see” on Palin imagine that. You give every other candidate a “wait and see” except Palin. Nope no double standard here folks move along…

unseen on November 10, 2010 at 8:09 PM

You can’t win with those babies. Can they leave the party already?

HondaV65 on November 10, 2010 at 8:01 PM

She will be a convenient scapegoat for them. If they were as smart as they claim they would outmaneuver her or enlist her to elect the candidate she and they believed could take down Obama. I think we all agree they are not all that smart, however.

msmveritas on November 10, 2010 at 8:10 PM

In case you need a reminder of how Palin would stack up against Obama:

1)From the PPP July poll
OBAMA PALIN
OVERALL 46 46
CONSERV 13 79
WOMEN 44 47
MEN 47 44
DEMS 81 14
GOP 9 81
INDIES 42 47
WHITES 36 55
65+ 48 44

2)Rasmussen poll Sept 20
Whose views are closer to yours? Obama or Palin

OBAMA PALIN
OVERALL 40 52
MALE 37 55
FEMALE 43 48
WHITES 35 58
BLACK 87 5
GOP 9 84
INDIES 27 59
CONSERV 12 80
MODERATES 61 28

3)Lighthouse Opinion Poll on October 22/2010 on the 2012 Texas vote in the general election between Obama and Palin:

Among 1200 LIKELY VOTERS
OBAMA PALIN
35 51

4)Among LIKELY VOTERS F/UF in the AP-GfK October poll:

OBAMA PALIN

52/48 49/50

This last comparison has not been reported anywhere that I have seen.

technopeasant on November 10, 2010 at 8:10 PM

O/T slightly but Sen Collins attacked Palin today. Sometimes I think the establishment wants Palin to win. Nothing like the biggest RINO in the Senate saying she is 100% different than Palin. I mean that was like free PR for Palin.

unseen on November 10, 2010 at 8:11 PM

The 15th Amendment was ratified what?… some 50 years before the 19th was ratified.
So, women who are pushy b1tches better wait in line.
Isn’t that the libbies message after all?
Unless you’re a dike.

OkieDoc on November 10, 2010 at 8:12 PM

You know who this doesn’t help??? Bristol! I think the poor girl wants to go home, She said she’s exhausted and misses her son. But DWTS seems to have become a popularity contest and those who love Sarah keep voting for Britol and she continues on. That tells me more about how popular Sarah is than an AP poll even if it is a good poll for Sarah. Thanks Allah :)

CCRWM on November 10, 2010 at 8:12 PM

Drama queen.

Chudi on November 10, 2010 at 8:06 PM

Yes Chudi, I agree. You are a HUGE Drama Queen. It would be interesting to see you as a normal person, but I doubt you would know how to act.

upinak on November 10, 2010 at 8:14 PM

Drama queen.

Chudi on November 10, 2010 at 8:06 PM

You really are a one hit wonder, aren’t you?

powerpro on November 10, 2010 at 8:14 PM

Fauxcons and Paulbots walk closer to the edge.

CWforFreedom on November 10, 2010 at 8:15 PM

And yet for some reason you have not did a “wait and see” on Palin imagine that. You give every other candidate a “wait and see” except Palin. Nope no double standard here folks move along…

unseen on November 10, 2010 at 8:09 PM

Because my objection to Palin is based on on electability. She has negatives among the American public that I don’t believe can be overcome. It doesn’t have a lot to do with her views on policy. So there isn’t really anything for me to “wait and see” about with Palin in regards to what kind of platform she runs on. She might run on a platform I like. I might even think she could be a good President. But this is not the same as being electable.

Mark1971 on November 10, 2010 at 8:16 PM

Chudi… go watch soccer . Plenty of drama queens flopping around there.

CWforFreedom on November 10, 2010 at 8:16 PM

But this is not the same as being electable.

Mark1971 on November 10, 2010 at 8:16 PM

Lots of time before the next election.

CWforFreedom on November 10, 2010 at 8:17 PM

Fauxcons and Paulbots walk closer to the edge.

CWforFreedom on November 10, 2010 at 8:15 PM

While the Palinistas have already thrown themselves over it.

2012 is going to be interesting, to say the least.

Dark-Star on November 10, 2010 at 8:18 PM

Mark1971 on November 10, 2010 at 8:16 PM

Good Lord Almighty.

Do you not understand what a campaign is for? Why on earth is anyone calling anyone unelectable before they even announce, much less run a campaign to make the case for themselves?

Here’s a thought. How about you think for yourself when the time comes and not let the LSM tell you who they deem to be electable?

powerpro on November 10, 2010 at 8:18 PM

Do you not understand what a campaign is for? Why on earth is anyone calling anyone unelectable before they even announce, much less run a campaign to make the case for themselves?

I believe the impression that most Americans have of Palin is so deep and ingrained that it can’t be overcome.

Mark1971 on November 10, 2010 at 8:21 PM

the ONLy way she could endorse Mitt and get away with not losing her entire support in a blink of an eye is if he were to win the nomination from her. So if the establishment wants some RINO cover they better hope she runs

unseen on November 10, 2010 at 8:08 PM

look, someone else has a crystal ball

again, the anti establishment rhetoric is weak, she was the GOP nominee for Number 2 spot, that’s establishment as it gets, and she ran with the Maverick, just endorsed him again recently, I don’t see her supporters running away.

windansea on November 10, 2010 at 8:21 PM

Because my objection to Palin is based on on electability. She has negatives among the American public that I don’t believe can be overcome. It doesn’t have a lot to do with her views on policy. So there isn’t really anything for me to “wait and see” about with Palin in regards to what kind of platform she runs on. She might run on a platform I like. I might even think she could be a good President. But this is not the same as being electable.

Mark1971 on November 10, 2010 at 8:16 PM

So your entie anti-palin stance is based on the media narrative being pushed by the left and the establishment. gotcha.

electibility? give bme a freaking break. that’s all you got?

Her poll numbers imporved 7 pts over last months’s and 17 pts over sept so much for the thought that today’s moment of time would be anything close to the NOV 2012 numbers.

unseen on November 10, 2010 at 8:21 PM

Want to watch a Lib freak…just say the name Sarah LOL

I had dinner with three people I didn’t really know well on Saturday. All three voted for Obama but now hated him, not for being not liberal enough, but for all the reasons obvious to Hotair readers. And all of them could discuss the issues in depth like most of you. Yet when Palin’s name came up they all reacted strongly and negatively. This was even though it seems they shared her views on various policies, although I don’t think they realized it.

I hope Palin wins, but as things stand now, I don’t think she can. Sure this is just an anecdote, but to me it shows the big uphill climb among the average intelligent non political blog readers. It doesn’t mean things won’t change, but I think we would be better off with someone new.

redeye on November 10, 2010 at 8:24 PM

While the Palinistas have already thrown themselves over it.

2012 is going to be interesting, to say the least.

Dark-Star on November 10, 2010 at 8:18 PM

They have? How so?

CWforFreedom on November 10, 2010 at 8:25 PM

I believe the impression that most Americans have of Palin is so deep and ingrained that it can’t be overcome.

Mark1971 on November 10, 2010 at 8:21 PM

How about you wait and see rather than deciding right now? Seriously. This is just folly.

If she runs, it’ll be on her shoulders to make the case for herself. I see her using the Alaska documentary and book tours as a way to work on public perception of her.

If/when she runs and people see that she is not what she’s been portrayed to be, opinions will change. Will it be enough? We’ll see, if she runs.

But to cede the argument because the media is calling her polarizing, divisive and unelectable is silly. Here’s a note for you. They’re NOT on our side. They DON’T want a good candidate to go against Obama. They will NOT give us honest, trustworthy opinions about her viability.

So wait and see for yourself if/when the time comes.

If she makes the case for herself, great. If not, she’ll endorse another conservative instead. But for crying out loud…at least let her make the effort before declaring it a lost cause.

powerpro on November 10, 2010 at 8:26 PM

So your entie anti-palin stance is based on the media narrative being pushed by the left and the establishment. gotcha.

Yes, the impression that most have of Palin has been pushed by an MSM that doesn’t like her. But regardless of where it came from, the impression is out there and it’s deep. We can’t be in denial about that.

Mark1971 on November 10, 2010 at 8:27 PM

I think everyone knows as much about the 11/2012 election in 11/2010 as everyone knew about the 11/2010 election in 11/2008.

Knott Buyinit on November 10, 2010 at 8:28 PM

again, the anti establishment rhetoric is weak, she was the GOP nominee for Number 2 spot, that’s establishment as it gets, and she ran with the Maverick, just endorsed him again recently, I don’t see her supporters running away.

windansea on November 10, 2010 at 8:21 PM

hmmm…not really she took a lot of flak for the McCain endorsement but most gav eher a pass due to the “loyalty” and not appearing to be a thankless person for the oppurtunity McCain gave her.

The only way Palin losses politcal capital is if she 1) doesn’t run or 2) runs and finishes a distant 3rd or 4th place.

The risk/reward equation for her is to run. If she runs and wins her power grows 100 fold. If she runs and comes in 2nd she will be the “kingmaker” within the conservative base for years to come.

If she doesn’t runshe losses. If she runs and comes in far behind her power is shown to be little.

Nope with her poll numbers, level of support she needs to run. And that will be what it comes down too. To keep the power she has carved out for herself to effect change she must run

unseen on November 10, 2010 at 8:28 PM

I don’t believe that Palin wants to be President in an ambitious sort of way. I think she would be willing to be president if she felt she was the only person who would really take on Obama and undo the destructive policies that he has foisted on us. If another true fighter conservative put her or his hat in the ring I think she would gladly support that person. I think she loves what she is doing now and I think she would live to live in AK and continue to be a FOX news contributor. She’s too young to just retire. Palin is a team player so where she i a point guard or the captain doen’t matter to her IMHO as long as she is doing her best for her team to win. I personally would love to say President Palin one day but I’ll support her or whomever she endorses.

CCRWM on November 10, 2010 at 8:28 PM

redeye on November 10, 2010 at 8:24 PM

Dude…didn’t you post the exact same thing the other day?

And didn’t my response to your post point out the fact that diehard Obama supporters changed their minds about him prove that opinions…even those that are fully ingrained…can and do change with the right set of circumstances?

powerpro on November 10, 2010 at 8:29 PM

I hope Palin wins, but as things stand now, I don’t think she can. Sure this is just an anecdote, but to me it shows the big uphill climb among the average intelligent non political blog readers. It doesn’t mean things won’t change, but I think we would be better off with someone new.

redeye on November 10, 2010 at 8:24 PM

I see your point and run into these type of people all the time myself, but the question that voters will have to ask themselves is do I really want 4 more years of a Marxist who is destroying the country? Remember presidential elections are a REFERENDUM on the incumbent not the challenger. See Reagan 1980.

davek70 on November 10, 2010 at 8:33 PM

Yes, the impression that most have of Palin has been pushed by an MSM that doesn’t like her. But regardless of where it came from, the impression is out there and it’s deep. We can’t be in denial about that.

Mark1971 on November 10, 2010 at 8:27 PM

Denial? No The fac tis that the narrative being pushed by the media is not the impression most have of her except maybe in the NE and westcoast (even there in MA she got more people to show up in downtown Boston on a wed than Obama, Frank and Patrick got on a sat) but in the other 40+ states she is seen for what she is not the warped view the media is trying to force feed us. Sadly it appears the those with less commonsense fall for the media narrative.

unseen on November 10, 2010 at 8:34 PM

They have? How so?

CWforFreedom on November 10, 2010 at 8:25 PM

Look at the response to anyone here who says that Palin won’t win. They can’t cope with the very idea. It’s Obamaitis all over again – young, pretty, (supposedly) good speaker with fresh new ideas…

But I do admit, after the last two elections, anything is possible.

Dark-Star on November 10, 2010 at 8:34 PM

…and 5 percent don’t know enough about her to form an opinion…

Who are these people? Do you know how much information you’d have to purposely avoid to not have an opinion on her? Wait a minute, were these the O.J. jurors?

TugboatPhil on November 10, 2010 at 8:39 PM

It doesn’t mean things won’t change, but I think we would be better off with someone new.

redeye on November 10, 2010 at 8:24 PM

After the elections I had a couple people call me. 2 were liberals I work with. they told me that they were surprised at Palin’s power and just could not understand it. they thouoght she was a has been/bimbo. But they also said she was the big winner tues. One person that called said they were not a big Palin person but afte rwatching her in the run-up to 2010 they were willing to give her a chance. Not one that called said the GOP won the election. They all mentioned Palin’s influence on the election.

but like you I have seen some of that instant reaction and within about 10 minutes of discussion most have gotten over the negative and are willing to listen. So it’s simply a matter of education and fighting the narrative the LSM and people like Mark want to push.

unseen on November 10, 2010 at 8:40 PM

Who are these people? Do you know how much information you’d have to purposely avoid to not have an opinion on her? Wait a minute, were these the O.J. jurors?

TugboatPhil on November 10, 2010 at 8:39 PM

more likely Palin supporters who just don’t want to admit they like her. Call it the anti-badley effect.

unseen on November 10, 2010 at 8:42 PM

If she doesn’t runshe losses. If she runs and comes in far behind her power is shown to be little.

Nope with her poll numbers, level of support she needs to run. And that will be what it comes down too. To keep the power she has carved out for herself to effect change she must run

unseen on November 10, 2010 at 8:28 PM

Mmm, Hillary Clinton kept her influence and was the candidate to beat right up until Obama beat her. She didn’t want to run against an incumbent. I think you could argue Palin might not want to repeat that mistake but I don’t think she loses influence if she decides to wait until 2016.

msmveritas on November 10, 2010 at 8:43 PM

CCRWM on November 10, 2010 at 8:28 PM

I agree somewhat but Palin has thought about it. but I think she is hesitant to put her family through it again.

unseen on November 10, 2010 at 8:44 PM

The only Palin polls that matter are state by state ones.

Fine, she has a 42% approval rating. What states can she win in 2012? As of today? Is there polling on this?

Beyond that, what states are “close” to winnable for her? Is there room for her to move up?

A national % on her is pointless.

lorien1973 on November 10, 2010 at 8:44 PM

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