Ryan endorses Hensarling over Bachmann for leadership post

posted at 2:15 pm on November 5, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

It didn’t take long for Rep. Michele Bachmann’s decision to run for Conference Chair in the House Republican caucus to get a reaction from her colleagues.  Caucus veterans started lining up behind Bachmann’s opponent for the position, Jeb Hensarling of Texas.  Wisconsin’s Paul Ryan, who is well-regarded by the fiscal conservatives active in the Tea Party movement, endorsed Hensarling in a letter to current House Republicans:

House Republicans Thursday reacted strongly against Rep. Michele Bachmann’s decision to run for a top leadership post in the new majority, looking to nip in the bud any chance that she might attract support from the substantially large group of incoming freshman lawmakers.

The trick for Republicans is to keep Bachmann – the Minnesota Republican viewed by many in leadership as an unserious and unhelpful spokesman for the party – away from an elevated platform that many in the party feel would hinder or harm the GOP, without being viewed as not listening to the Tea Party movement, which supplied much of the energy that gave them a 61-seat pickup and control of the House. …

Top House Republicans from Eric Cantor to Paul Ryan are firmly behind Hensarling, arguing that he is a solid conservative who will provide the very “constitutional conservatism” that Bachmann says she represents.

But Hensarling is far less well known beyond Washington and his home district of the southeast Dallas suburbs, so there is potential for average grassroots conservatives who know of Bachmann but not Hensarling to interpret the party’s support for the latter as a slight of the Tea Party.

To that question, it may be one missing endorsement that could make the case for Hensarling:

Palin, in an e-mail to The Daly Caller, declined to endorse Bachmann, even though she has been an outspoken advocate on the congresswoman’s behalf and accused Politico of sexism Thursday for using a picture of Bachmann having makeup applied to her face.

“I’m taking a position on who gets to sit in the big boy highchair this morning for breakfast… Trig or Tripp?” Palin said, referring to her son and grandson, respectively. “Leadership in the US Congress this morning? Nah … not ’till after the Cheerios,” Palin said.

Dick Armey, chair of Freedom Works, which did a lot of ground work in organizing for the Tea Party, didn’t issue an endorsement but did remind people that Hensarling has solid conservative credentials.  He voted against TARP in 2008, one of the few to buck his own party and President to do so, as well as the GOP nominee in the presidential election that took place just a few weeks later.  Hensarling has also been at the forefront of fiscal-conservative policy formation over the past few years as a former Republican Study Committee chair, and has earned loyalty for his fundraising (as has Bachmann).

Either one would give fiscal conservatives a strong voice in leadership.  Hensarling, though, did not have the same level of public commitment to the Tea Party movement as did Bachmann, who spent considerable time helping people across the country to get organized and enthusiastic about the midterm elections.  On the other hand, one could argue that Bachmann may fill a better role as an outside check on GOP leadership, in a role perhaps more analogous to the Tea Party itself.

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On July 22, 2009, Scozzafava was chosen by the eleven Republican Party county chairs located in the 23rd Congressional district to be the Republican nominee for the special election to fill the seat in the United States Congress vacated by John M. McHugh, who resigned September 21, 2009, upon taking office as the Secretary of the Army.[11][4]

Many notable Republicans, including former Vice Presidential nominee Sarah Palin, Republican Governor Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota and former U.S. Senator Fred Thompson, endorsed Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dede_Scozzafava

canopfor on November 5, 2010 at 3:23 PM

Fine, let’s make Palin, Pawlenty, or Thompson the House Republican Conference chair.

rockmom on November 5, 2010 at 3:39 PM

rockmom on November 5, 2010 at 3:33 PM

Pretty much. Bachmann is great and needs to have a role, it just doesn’t have to be this one, which Hensarling is better suited for. We need good people working behind the scenes as well as lightning rods. There is sufficient room for all in the new leadership.

Missy on November 5, 2010 at 3:39 PM

It’s known as the peoples House.
FloatingRock on November 5, 2010 at 2:59 PM

Oh please! They are our representatives but it’s not our job, nor is it Palin’s job, to micromanage their every move and committee appointment.

Do you think we (or Alaskans) should have micromanaged every move she made as governor, including every appointment?

If you want to have a say in this get yourself elected to the House of Representatives.

Buy Danish on November 5, 2010 at 3:39 PM

rockmom on November 5, 2010 at 3:34 PM

OK, he picked a Republican over a conservative in NY-23. That works for you, but not me. And you’re OK with his efforts for the GOP in Renee Ellmers fight with the Democrat Bob Ethridge?

james23 on November 5, 2010 at 3:40 PM

Hensarling IS as solid a fiscal conservative as you can find. Better choice for the job in my humble opinion. I DO like Bachmann though. Tough choice, but I side with Jeb Hensarling on this one.

44Magnum on November 5, 2010 at 3:41 PM

Not to keep beating this dead horse, but Hensarling was right. We lost NY-23 and won’t get it back for a generation.

rockmom on November 5, 2010 at 3:34 PM

Do we really want to continue to put people in leadership positions only to vote with the Democrats?

Do we really want to put people in office and dilute the conservative message with “because they are electable” meme?

The reason why the GOP is so watered down and squishy is because of this attitude by the likes of Gingrich, Ryan, et al; They are serving themselves, not the people.

Kini on November 5, 2010 at 3:41 PM

any questions? the guy followed the leadership/party instead of standing by his conservative cred. He showed he is a poser when the chips were down. anyone think he will stand up for conservative principles when the house leadership says no. I would like them to remember Stupak

unseen on November 5, 2010 at 3:36 PM

Right, Pete Sessions did such a horrible job that Republicans only won 63 House seats on Tuesday.

Look, he got this one wrong. He was the NRCC chaitrman and he was following what the people on the ground in New York did in choosing Scozaawhjatrever. Is THAT the new line in the sand now? Your hero Doug Hoffman just kept us from winning that seat back, thanks a lot.

rockmom on November 5, 2010 at 3:42 PM

Western_Civ on November 5, 2010 at 3:33 PM

Did you read past this part by mistake?

Insufficient mediocrity.

rrpjr on November 5, 2010 at 3:22 PM

cs89 on November 5, 2010 at 3:42 PM

Not to keep beating this dead horse, but Hensarling was right. We lost NY-23 and won’t get it back for a generation.

rockmom on November 5, 2010 at 3:34 PM

Well, to be fair, we came very close to getting it back this year (Hoffman was the problem this time). We may get it in 2012.

Missy on November 5, 2010 at 3:43 PM

He’s a SUPER CONSERVATIVE? What does that mean? How do you know?

a : of high grade or quality b —used as a generalized term of approval
2: very large or powerful

3: exhibiting the characteristics of its type to an extreme or excessive degree

How do I know? Go look at his record.

Doesn’t that fall short of ‘SUPER?’

Only if you think super = perfect.

keepinitreal on November 5, 2010 at 3:43 PM

Not to keep beating this dead horse, but Hensarling was right. We lost NY-23 and won’t get it back for a generation.

rockmom on November 5, 2010 at 3:34 PM

we lost it becasue the liberal RINo endorsed the dem instead of the conservative. giving us a preview of what was to occur in DE, AK, and FL in 2010.

If people like Hensarling would have stood by his conservative principles instead of folding to the will of the party leaderhsip DEDE would have left the race earlier.

unseen on November 5, 2010 at 3:43 PM

I think this should answer where Hensarling is at. Another Mike Castle RINO supporter.

Kini on November 5, 2010 at 3:33 PM

Are you not going to be satisfied until you split the GOP and ensure permanent democrat control? You should be ashamed of yourself for that comment.

Vashta.Nerada on November 5, 2010 at 3:44 PM

Fine, let’s make Palin, Pawlenty, or Thompson the House Republican Conference chair.

rockmom on November 5, 2010 at 3:39 PM

No, lets put the right people, that have earned the right, in the positions that will serve the people, not the party.

Kini on November 5, 2010 at 3:45 PM

One thing about the Auto Bailout. The auto industry deserved to die – both the unions and the investors who propped them up. But there are thousands of other, well-run businesses that would be destroyed if the Auto-industry simply collapsed – all the people who make parts, the dealers, etc. While nothing is certain, it seems likely that the damage to the economy would be huge. Would it be right to let it collapse even if it punished millions of people who had nothing to do with its poor management, and brought unemployment to 15 or 20%? Does trying to prevent a genuine economic catastrophe make you a RINO?

RINO in Name Only on November 5, 2010 at 2:58 PM

Mostly kinda sorta agree, but the way Bammie did it was disgraceful and illegal. TARP wasn’t passed to bail out the UAW, it should have been a separate bill. Horrible precedent set.

Bammie also apparently discriminated against some Chrysler and GM dealers because they were white. He broke the Chrysler bondholder’s contract, yet he kept the UAW more or less whole wrt wages and retirement while throwing salaried employees to the wolves.

All of that should be topics for House investigations in the new year.

slickwillie2001 on November 5, 2010 at 3:45 PM

Right, Pete Sessions did such a horrible job that Republicans only won 63 House seats on Tuesday.

Look, he got this one wrong. He was the NRCC chaitrman and he was following what the people on the ground in New York did in choosing Scozaawhjatrever. Is THAT the new line in the sand now? Your hero Doug Hoffman just kept us from winning that seat back, thanks a lot.

rockmom on November 5, 2010 at 3:42 PM

Pete Sessions taking credit for the conservative wave in the House is like the rooster taking credit for the sunrise.
But of course, we knew that would happen with the GOP hacks.
How do you justify his refusal to support a conservative nominee whose victory hangs in the balance?

james23 on November 5, 2010 at 3:45 PM

She’s a woman seeking entrance to the boys club. the GOP has a problem no one wants to talk about.

james23 on November 5, 2010 at 2:56 PM

What’s up with supposed conservatives acting and debating like liberals? Maybe we should enact some sort of affirmative action in the House GOP leadership? Would that make you feel better? Stop crying about race or sex when it isn’t even an issue. You’re no better than the liberals.

keepinitreal on November 5, 2010 at 3:45 PM

To gain independents’ trust, candidates need a proven track record of stable, proven performance. Palin and Bachman don’t have that. Sorry if that is sexist to you.

pedestrian on November 5, 2010 at 2:56 PM

Actually, Palin does have exactly that, it’s just that the National Propaganda Ministry ensures through creating all these mini-controversies that simply must be talked about everywhere all the time, no one, except people who are aware of it, is talking about her impressive record of leadership and accomplishment.

It does exist, that is why it must be avoided or buried under bogus “scandals”.

Brian1972 on November 5, 2010 at 3:46 PM

Right, Pete Sessions did such a horrible job that Republicans only won 63 House seats on Tuesday.

Look, he got this one wrong. He was the NRCC chaitrman and he was following what the people on the ground in New York did in choosing Scozaawhjatrever. Is THAT the new line in the sand now? Your hero Doug Hoffman just kept us from winning that seat back, thanks a lot.

rockmom on November 5, 2010 at 3:42 PM

Wait a minute. you think the house won 63 seats because of Sessions? ROFLMAO….talk about spin. He cost us the 100+ pick up. he left seats on the table all across the country because they didn’t fit his views. People like ellmers were left for the wolves. We won 63 seats inspite of Sessions not because of him.

unseen on November 5, 2010 at 3:46 PM

Thank you suh, we’z dummies will sits down now and follows the recommendications of our betters.

Bishop on November 5, 2010 at 2:46 PM

So, instead of reading about Henserling, y’all would rather fight amongst fellow righty’s because you aren’t happy we all don’t give in to what you want.

cozmo on November 5, 2010 at 3:46 PM

Why do you insist on ignoring the fact that Bachmann simply makes a ton of demonstrably false public accusations and, while a good bombthrower, accomplishes nothing legislatively? Because she calls lots of people socialists? Is that what governing means to you?

Those supporting Bachmann in this are making the same error in judgment democrats made by nominating Obama over Hillary.

ernesto on November 5, 2010 at 3:47 PM

Ed said:
On the other hand, one could argue that Bachmann may fill a better role as an outside check on GOP leadership, in a role perhaps more analogous to the Tea Party itself.

RINO TRAITOR!

HAHAHAHAHA! Let the purity purge continue until no one is left standing. Once we’ve knifed each other in the back, that’ll teach those Democrats.

jnelchef on November 5, 2010 at 3:48 PM

Tea Party Folk (like me)!! Please!

Hold your horses for a moment and remember why we’re in this … we’re in this to save the Republic. Now – for better or worse, and I don’t like it either – but we’re stuck with John Boehner as the pilot of this aircraft. That’s just the way it is. And here’s a tip – we know he’s not a very good pilot – we know he gets distracted easily – we know sometimes he sees things and gets emotional and has “Tammy Faye” moments that cause him to tear up and obscure his vision …

Which is ALL THE MORE reason we need to help the brother out.

I really don’t think kicking his ass over a leadership spot is a good way to start this flight – especially with the pilot we have. So what I suggest – is just give him a little encouragement and save our powder for when he does something really bad – like stall the aircraft.

Now – he’s promised to make deep cuts and he’s promised to repeal ObamaCare – and when the POTUS vetos that or it dies in the Senate – then he’s promised to defund it – and not allow a single scrap of it to come into effect. Strong words – and yes, we’re gonna hold him to ‘em.

I think we should pick our battles. Let him have this one as long as he comes through on the big stuff.

If he doesn’t – we kick his butt!

HondaV65 on November 5, 2010 at 3:49 PM

You should be ashamed of yourself for that comment.

Vashta.Nerada on November 5, 2010 at 3:44 PM

Never. Are we going to have elected officials representing us, or their party?

The reason why we vote in the first place is to have that person bring our values to the legislative agenda. Not to have that person wet their finger and stick it in the air to see which way the political winds blow.

Kini on November 5, 2010 at 3:50 PM

No, lets put the right people, that have earned the right, in the positions that will serve the people, not the party.

Kini on November 5, 2010 at 3:45 PM

agreed. the house is the voice of the people. It’s leadership should include the voice of those people in the leaderships positions not just those of the elites. the leadership places people like Sessions at the helm of the NRCC.

Look bottomline….if you want change in Washington you have to change the leadership. not just the party

unseen on November 5, 2010 at 3:50 PM

Ed said:
On the other hand, one could argue that Bachmann may fill a better role as an outside check on GOP leadership, in a role perhaps more analogous to the Tea Party itself.

Only thing I’d say about that is that the Tea Party isn’t a “perpetual outsider movement” – eventually it takes the party – and that means leadership as well.

HondaV65 on November 5, 2010 at 3:51 PM

Look bottomline….if you want change in Washington you have to change the leadership. not just the party

unseen on November 5, 2010 at 3:50 PM

You are right my friend – and we should insist on it. I’m just not sure this particular post is really that important.

HondaV65 on November 5, 2010 at 3:52 PM

I am sure that Hensarling is a great guy, but what really ticks me off is this:

– the Minnesota Republican viewed by many in leadership as an unserious and unhelpful spokesman for the party –

What exactly about Bachman is unserious and unhelpful? She seems serious as a heart attack to me. And… umm… didn’t the GOP just win an historic # of seats, and … didn’t the tea party have just a little bit to do with that? Is that somehow unhelpful?

“Unserious and unhelpful” is not sexist, but these sort of sucker punches coming from the right are enabling the Dem’s sexist attacks. How do we expect the Dems to quit hurling vile sexist slurs at Conservative women, when Conservative leadership won’t hold back from slinging vague, unsubstantiated mud at it’s own female members?

bitsy on November 5, 2010 at 3:53 PM

More on the NRCC refusal to help a conservative who’s victory Tuesday is being held hostage to a very fishy recount; from Dan Riehl:

North Carolina Republican congressional candidate Renee Ellmers might well be headed to Washington — but she’s slamming the National Republican Congressional Committee regardless.

In a 471-word statement posted on her campaign website Thursday afternoon, Ellmers, who leads Democratic Rep. Bobby Etheridge by 1,600 votes in their still-undecided 2nd District race, takes aim at the NRCC for allegedly refusing to help pay for attorneys in her potential recount battle against Etheridge.

Nor did they contribute a dime to her winning campaign. Hensarling’s role on the NRCC is not a plus, to me.

james23 on November 5, 2010 at 3:54 PM

The reason why we vote in the first place is to have that person bring our values to the legislative agenda.

Kini on November 5, 2010 at 3:50 PM

I’m fully aware (and my congresswoman is, too) that she is my employee, who votes the way I expect her to. That said, everyone who lives in a different congressional district has an employee too. The only way I get what I want is to get a majority in congress, and that only works via a party.
And to suggest Hensarling is anything like Castle is ridiculous.

Vashta.Nerada on November 5, 2010 at 3:54 PM

RINO in Name Only on November 5, 2010 at 2:58 PM

Mostly kinda sorta agree, but the way Bammie did it was disgraceful and illegal. TARP wasn’t passed to bail out the UAW, it should have been a separate bill. Horrible precedent set.

Bammie also apparently discriminated against some Chrysler and GM dealers because they were white. He broke the Chrysler bondholder’s contract, yet he kept the UAW more or less whole wrt wages and retirement while throwing salaried employees to the wolves.

All of that should be topics for House investigations in the new year.

slickwillie2001 on November 5, 2010 at 3:45 PM

I agree with all of what both of you said.

I still want a Chevy Camaro SS, politics aside it is just a bad ass ride. Greenies sure don’t like the return of the American V-8 performance coupes, from Ford, GM and Chrysler.

Makes me smile. This one in particular, a concept show car from a couple of years ago, is even better than that standard SS, because they dropped the LS-7 engine from the Z06 Vette in it. 427 cu in, 550hp. This should be a production option, even though it isn’t right now.

Check this badboy out, and wipe the drool off your chin.

Brian1972 on November 5, 2010 at 3:56 PM

So, instead of reading about Henserling, y’all would rather fight amongst fellow righty’s because you aren’t happy we all don’t give in to what you want.

cozmo on November 5, 2010 at 3:46 PM

so you all got the Speaker position, you got the majority leader position you even got the whip position. the TEa party asks for thr 4th seat of power and we are told no.

It seesm like the only people being unfair is the elites who are selfish and do not want to share the power that those of the TEa party secured for them. It’s not like we are asking for the Speaker position or majority leader positon.

and I think that was Bachmann’s mistake she should have asked for the majority leader position than compromise for the 4th position.

unseen on November 5, 2010 at 3:57 PM

Bachmann was instrumental in cheer-leading the Tea Party, as Palin was. However, Palin in not in office, yet.

Bachmann is, and worked her tail off helping to get like minded candidates into office. What has Hensarling done, but support RINO’s that the GOP can CO-OPT into the party.

if you want change in Washington you have to change the leadership. not just the party

unseen on November 5, 2010 at 3:50 PM

Roger that!

Kini on November 5, 2010 at 3:58 PM

Being a conservative from Texas can be done in your sleep, being one in Minnesota takes brass.

wheelgun on November 5, 2010 at 4:00 PM

Ok so Hensarling endorsed Scozzafava, that is certainly a blight on him. I forgot about that ditrict and just checked Tuesday’s results, that lying hack Owens won again in that district! Even after he lied during his campaign and ended up voting for Obamacare as his first vote, there should have been more coverage on this election. How the hell did he lose when that guy lied the way he did? It was a very close race though, but still, geez,

Daemonocracy on November 5, 2010 at 4:00 PM

I dunno in this case, I could see either being a viable candidate for the slot… I do have to say that I see the argument that at some point if you want to change the direction of the party as a whole, when the opportunity to grab the leadership slots comes up, you go for it…

DaSaintFan on November 5, 2010 at 4:01 PM

Being a conservative from Texas can be done in your sleep, being one in Minnesota takes brass.

wheelgun on November 5, 2010 at 4:00 PM

Very true … excellent point.

darwin on November 5, 2010 at 4:01 PM

You are right my friend – and we should insist on it. I’m just not sure this particular post is really that important.

HondaV65 on November 5, 2010 at 3:52 PM

It’s the principle of the matter. the leadership must cave to the tea party in some areas. they can not be allowed to win every battle unopposed. AT this rate I would fight the establishment over the subcommitte second chair of the wastewater works committee.

unseen on November 5, 2010 at 4:02 PM

How the hell did he lose when that guy lied the way he did? It was a very close race though, but still, geez,

Daemonocracy on November 5, 2010 at 4:00 PM

The conservative and liberal GOP split the vote again. hoffman withdrew form the race but not before his name was on the ballot. He got 6-7% of the vote which threw the election to owens. which is a fine result to me. The RINOs must learn they will never win another election unless they come to the table and accept conservatives in leadership positions.

unseen on November 5, 2010 at 4:04 PM

Bachmann’s a self-promoter, a circus clown without any principles.

Raisedbywolves on November 5, 2010 at 4:06 PM

Raisedbywolves on November 5, 2010 at 4:06 PM

FO

unseen on November 5, 2010 at 4:08 PM

Michelle and everyone else that adheres to the constitution sound like clowns to liberals. It’s that public education thing.

wheelgun on November 5, 2010 at 4:10 PM

I think Bachmann can be a loss canon but I would like her in some role in the leadership to keep an eye on the career poltiicians. I get that we need people who can stay on message but I have a very low level of trust for these people.

Maybe they can put her in another spot or maybe at least let her into meetings.

Bill C on November 5, 2010 at 4:11 PM

Ok, had to vote “unsure” as I didn’t know Hensarling; then went to my usual spot for research…

http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=49827&type=category&category=17&go.x=15&go.y=11

Representative Hensarling supported the interests of the American Conservative Union – Lifetime 99 percent during their legislative career up until 2009.

According to the National Journal – Liberal on Economic Policy’s calculations, Representative Hensarling voted more liberal on economic policy issues than 0 percent members within the same chamber of Congress in 2009.

Yeah, he’s fine with me. He’s rated more liberal than um… nobody on economic policies. That should sell with the Tea Party fine I’d think.

gekkobear on November 5, 2010 at 4:12 PM

Right now John Cornyn heads NRSc, Pete Sessions heads NRCC both are from Texas and both are Bush family cronies. We want to give another leadership position to a Texan who maybe a Bush family crony? Really?

promachus on November 5, 2010 at 4:12 PM

Bachmann’s a self-promoter, a circus clown without any principles.

Raisedbywolves on November 5, 2010 at 4:06 PM

Got any links or supporting details you would like to add to that comment?

bitsy on November 5, 2010 at 4:13 PM

unseen on November 5, 2010 at 4:04 PM

Nearly all voting districts reported — 603 of 606 — Tuesday with Owens ahead 76,124 to Doheny’s 72,372, according to YNN.

With all 55 districts reported in Madison County, Doheny led Owens by less than 350 votes — 9,017 to 8,670 votes. Douglas Hoffman gathered 1,581 on the Conservative line, despite suspending his campaign and endorsing Doheny. Oneida County results were not posted online Tuesday night.

The source is oneidadispatch.com. According to their numbers, Hoffman did not have enough to cost Doheny the victory. The people are just idiots. Yes, thatis a strong wrong but I do not say it because they didn’t vote the way I would have liked, I say it because they were clearly lied to on a major issue and still allowed the guy back in. Maybe they just don’t care about Obamacare but I find that hard to believe in a District that was historically Republican before the Scuzzy incident.

Whatever, abck on topic, I don’t care who wins this leadership post, I don’t even know what it does. I like this Texan, but I am starting to lean towards Bachmann for the principle of it all.

Daemonocracy on November 5, 2010 at 4:16 PM

Bachmann’s a self-promoter, a circus clown without any principles.

Raisedbywolves on November 5, 2010 at 4:06 PM

Because Chris Mathews styled ad hominem attacks always make a good argument.

Daemonocracy on November 5, 2010 at 4:17 PM

gophergirl, we’ve just been through a legislative bloodbath, in which socialism was shoved down our collective throats. Your guy Hensarling was in Washington then, right? If he is a leader, why was he invisible in the legislative battles of the last 2 years?

james23 on November 5, 2010 at 2:38 PM

Over the last two years, Republicans were a small minority, and House rules provide that majority views get shoved down the throats of the minority, and all that Hensarling, Bachmann, or Boehner could do in such a situation was vote Nay and try to convince some Democrats to vote with them, then campaign for GOP candidates in Democrat-held districts.

There’s no question that Michele Bachmann is a great campaigner, but so is Barack Obama. But the time for campaigning is over (for now), and the time for governing has begun for House Republicans. If Hensarling has the experience from the 1994 House takeover, he knows how to guide lots of enthusiastic freshmen in the same direction, to form a GOVERNING majority.

If Bachmann has some true leadership ability, she might be promoted to Chair of some House subcommittee in her area of expertise, or perhaps Deputy Majority Whip, in charge of keeping the new freshmen reading from the same page.

But governing with a House majority, a quarter of whom have no House experience, requires teamwork, and somebody who knows how to train the “rookies”. Boehner knows that Bachmann has fire in her belly, and will probably find her a position where her enthusiasm will be most needed.

Steve Z on November 5, 2010 at 4:22 PM

Maybe they can put her in another spot or maybe at least let her into meetings.

Bill C on November 5, 2010 at 4:11 PM

Pretty snarky and sexist remark. :(

tencole on November 5, 2010 at 4:22 PM

Look y’all, Bachman is not a bad representative. She has been a very good spokesperson for the TEA party folks. The problem with that is she has become the person in power that is the face of TEA partiers. She has been sought out by the media and she has shown up. Pelosi was vilified for good reason, she was the face of the dems in the house. Having Bachman in a leadership role will give all of the newsies she has been on the air with an opportunity to make Bachman not only the face of the TEA party folk, but as the repubs as a whole. I watched how she was treated by MSNBC the other night. Y’all want to be subject to that, by almost all media every night for 2 years?

cozmo on November 5, 2010 at 4:28 PM

“….You must be prepared to fight for the right to be heard”…Sarah Palin.

’nuff said.

tencole on November 5, 2010 at 4:29 PM

Whatever, abck on topic, I don’t care who wins this leadership post, I don’t even know what it does. I like this Texan, but I am starting to lean towards Bachmann for the principle of it all.

Daemonocracy on November 5, 2010 at 4:16 PM

ok thanks must have read the early returns…

unseen on November 5, 2010 at 4:31 PM

Here’s a novel idea: Let the GOP House members vote on who they should have in this leadership position.

Palin got it right; Let’s stay away from endorsing anyone. That should include the current leadership of the House. Ryan did himself no good by endorsing Hensarling.

Norwegian on November 5, 2010 at 4:32 PM

Because Chris Mathews styled ad hominem attacks always make a good argument.

Daemonocracy on November 5, 2010 at 4:17 PM

The GOP needs to follow the Ryan approach and work to cut the budget without the verbal bomb throwing. Newt was a bright leader, but one that ultimately undid the 1994 takeover due to his lack of rhetorical discipline. Hopefully, 2010 goes better but Bachmann’s penchant for being on TV and tossing provocative sound bites seems more likely to cause trouble than anything else.

dedalus on November 5, 2010 at 4:35 PM

Who says the camera loving, ineffective, compromising, prefessional politician boehner should automatically be speaker? How many of these house races was he involved in? Two weeks ago he was ready to give barry a victory. Come on Rush and Mark Levin, we need you now. boehner is going to go right back to the same behavior of the last 12 years of republican control. That’s why barry and the demofascists gave him street cred in the last month before the election, they saw the writing on the wall and wanted a guy in control they know they can trust.

peacenprosperity on November 5, 2010 at 4:39 PM

Ryan did himself no good by endorsing Hensarling.

ryan is a bill bennett republican. That’s not a good thing.

peacenprosperity on November 5, 2010 at 4:41 PM

If Hensarling has the experience from the 1994 House takeover, he knows how to guide lots of enthusiastic freshmen in the same direction, to form a GOVERNING majority.
Steve Z on November 5, 2010 at 4:22 PM

thank you! you just proved my point this guy is part of the problem. Listen, to those not based in unicorn land, the voters rejected the GOP leadership in 2006 and 2008. they decided it was better to give the country over to the socilaists then allow the GOP leadership the levers of power. Now after the socialists failed in their attempt to make us all like Maos the voters decided to give the power to the GOp again and how does the GOp handle that grant? well they get the old gang back together. Does anyone thing the outcome is going to be any different with the same idiots in power as we had from 2000-2006?. It’s like electing Pelosi back to a leadership position….oh wat those elites are doing the same thing.

unseen on November 5, 2010 at 4:41 PM

may fill a better role as an outside check on GOP leadership

Oh that’s good. Instead of someone in the room keeping the pressure on to take the right actions we can have someone to complain about it after the fact. More good thinking from ed. Once again ed throws Bachmann under the bus.

peacenprosperity on November 5, 2010 at 4:44 PM

Didn’t Bachmann just sort of glom on to the TEA Party after the fact (by that I mean after it attained some notoriety)? Aren’t there multiple TEA Parties? Which one deserves representation?

If I were in a policy argument with someone I’d rather have Hensarling standing next to me than Bachmann.

DrSteve on November 5, 2010 at 4:47 PM

Y’all want to be subject to that, by almost all media every night for 2 years?

cozmo on November 5, 2010 at 4:28 PM

Sorry, the only way you can avoid the media hell is to go along with the media’s program. Can you take the heat? Can your leader take the heat? If not, better learn to sing L’Internationale before ballgames.

Leadership in a nation of this size, with so much at stake, requires a public profile and a willingness to take the heat.

james23 on November 5, 2010 at 4:49 PM

ryan is a bill bennett republican. peacenprosperity on November 5, 2010 at 4:41 PM

Does that mean he has memorized Bartlett’s Book of Quotations?

james23 on November 5, 2010 at 4:50 PM

james23 on November 5, 2010 at 4:49 PM

Yeah, that’s a great idea. No matter how well she does, the newsies will pick and pick, just like they have been. And the folks who only occasionally pay attention will see right through it. Just like they saw through all the fake resume padding they provided for Obama.

cozmo on November 5, 2010 at 4:55 PM

If I were in a policy argument with someone I’d rather have Hensarling standing next to me than Bachmann.

Really? Bachmann has been standing next to you in the fight for the last two years, taking the nastiest that the left has to give in standing up for the American people. How many times has hensarling been olbermanns worst person in the world? Has hensarling put himself up against wackjob matthews trying to get the message to matthews limited number of viewers? Has hensarling stood up to barney frank? I don’t remember hensarling questioning geithner about the constitutionality of his actions. Did hensarling call out arlen spector? Can you direct me to that you tube video? Did pelosi target hensarling to get defeated? Yeah, stick with the old boy network and we will be looking at another 4 years of barry and the democrats taking back the house in 2012 or 2014.

peacenprosperity on November 5, 2010 at 5:04 PM

Why do you insist on ignoring the fact that Bachmann simply makes a ton of demonstrably false public accusations and, while a good bombthrower, accomplishes nothing legislatively? Because she calls lots of people socialists? Is that what governing means to you?

Those supporting Bachmann in this are making the same error in judgment democrats made by nominating Obama over Hillary.

ernesto on November 5, 2010 at 3:47 PM

Why? Have you compared the records of Ryan from Bachmann’s?

How do you know that Bachmann hadn’t accomplished anything at all?

You’re questioning the “substantive contributions” of Bachmmann … so BRING US THE SUBSTANCE of your claim!

FYI, THE CURRENT PROTOCOL OF THE HOUSE IS SHITTY! SAME STAFF … SAME SORDID RESULTS!

BY THE WAY, GOP’S HOUSE STAFFERS DID NOTHING LAST TIME EXCEPT RE-ITERATING THE WORKS OF THE CBO, CROSS-REFERENCING WITH OTHER CONSERVATIVE RESEARCH GROUP LIKE HERITAGE!

SO WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? THE CRUCIAL WORK OF THE GOP LEGISLATURE LAST TIME WAS TO SHOUT AND FIGHT! AND THAT’S PATRIOTIC AND REAL WORK!

TheAlamos on November 5, 2010 at 5:05 PM

I’ll take Hensarling over Bachmann. If you caught Bachmann’s performance on Chris Matthews’ show – the entire part, not just the entertaining “tingle” comment – you’d probably agree.

She comes off as an intellectual lightweight who, when faced with a serious question, thinks its appropriate to dodge with an unserious answer. The party needs to be done with that. Matthews was also asking stupid questions, and she was coming up with answers no more intelligent than the questions. She had the opportunity to make some serious conservative points, but didn’t seem interested.

alflauren on November 5, 2010 at 5:12 PM

Palin[...]accused Politico of sexism Thursday for using a picture of Bachmann having makeup applied to her face.

Another reason to tag Palin a buffoon. We all hate it when people place the race and sex card…until Palin does it repeatedly, then we loooovveee it.

Ugh. Shut up and go be a celebrity…let the smart guys do the actual work.

TheBlueSite on November 5, 2010 at 5:13 PM

I still want a Chevy Camaro SS, politics aside it is just a bad ass ride. Greenies sure don’t like the return of the American V-8 performance coupes, from Ford, GM and Chrysler.

Makes me smile. This one in particular, a concept show car from a couple of years ago, is even better than that standard SS, because they dropped the LS-7 engine from the Z06 Vette in it. 427 cu in, 550hp. This should be a production option, even though it isn’t right now.

Check this badboy out, and wipe the drool off your chin.

Brian1972 on November 5, 2010 at 3:56 PM

I’ve sworn off any product made by the UAW. In the future I will look at Nissan and Toyotas made in the USA by non-union workers.

Execution wise, I’m not big on the Camaro design. All they had to do is copy and update the 1969, instead they made something that looks like a Hotwheels toy. Much better job on the retro Challenger.

slickwillie2001 on November 5, 2010 at 5:15 PM

OT….but interesting none the least…

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/252666/say-it-aint-so-scott-kathryn-jean-lopez

tencole on November 5, 2010 at 5:17 PM

NO Bachmann, we don’t need cheerleaders we need quarterbacks!

conservador on November 5, 2010 at 5:19 PM

NO Bachmann, we don’t need cheerleaders we need quarterbacks!

conservador on November 5, 2010 at 5:19 PM

???

darwin on November 5, 2010 at 5:26 PM

Another reason to tag Palin a buffoon. We all hate it when people place the race and sex card…until Palin does it repeatedly, then we loooovveee it.

Ugh. Shut up and go be a celebrity…let the smart guys do the actual work.

TheBlueSite on November 5, 2010 at 5:13 PM

Err… Politico blinked in case you missed it. They changed the picture.

As for you… long walk. Short pier. You fill in the rest.

powerpro on November 5, 2010 at 5:34 PM

Ugh. Shut up and go be a celebrity…let the smart guys do the actual work.

TheBlueSite on November 5, 2010 at 5:13 PM

I suppose that means you’ll be unemployed.

darwin on November 5, 2010 at 5:37 PM

NTU rates Hensarling more of a budget cutter than Bachmann, for one. He’s consistently in the top 10 (or even top 5) in their rankings, while she’s in the mid-30s (and last year was ranked 54th).

His CAGW lifetime rating is also considerably higher than hers (96% vs 91%).

Cato rates him better on trade and subsidies, too.

But you’re right, I certainly see her arguing with idiots on television a lot more.

DrSteve on November 5, 2010 at 5:49 PM

Pete Sessions did such a horrible job that Republicans only won 63 House seats on Tuesday.

Please don’t try to give the house old boys credit for what happened Tuesday. How many of them did you see out there stumping for candidates? For that matter, how many republican senators did you see out there supporting candidates? I saw a stupid article yesterday that quoted anonymous “gop insiders” saying Demint was a bandwagoner. Name some of the old boys who went out on a limb to visibly. What happened on Tuesday was a message from the American people to congress. It was a gift to the republicans and they will pay for it, and likely America will suffer for it, if they don’t honor the great gift they have been given.

peacenprosperity on November 5, 2010 at 5:51 PM

But you’re right, I certainly see her arguing with idiots on television a lot more.

Bachmann was a lawyer for the treasury department for 5 years before she was married. She was activist fighting for her beliefs while running her family businesses until she ran for the state senate in minnesota in 2000 and she has been out front and outspoken all during her time in politics. hensarling has been a career politician and lobbyist since he got out of law school. You can have the old boy, I’ll stick with Bachmann.

peacenprosperity on November 5, 2010 at 6:03 PM

Why was this not an option?

She should run for it, and let the members of the House choose their own leadership?

And why should Palin say anything? She’s not in Congress.

ladyingray on November 5, 2010 at 6:11 PM

rrpjr on November 5, 2010 at 3:22 PM
cs89 on November 5, 2010 at 3:42 PM

My bad.

Western_Civ on November 5, 2010 at 6:13 PM

peacenprosperity on November 5, 2010 at 6:03 PM

Yes, I knew she sued families for the IRS. Anything to say about those rankings I posted?

DrSteve on November 5, 2010 at 6:18 PM

“NO Bachmann, we don’t need cheerleaders we need quarterbacks!

conservador on November 5, 2010 at 5:19 PM”

Really Hensarling is a quarterback, lol. He is the waterboy who does what the coaches tell him, like endorsing Dede. I take it all back. I hope Bachmann takes it as it seems Hensarling has no real backbone. You figure we would have had a few more weeks hearing liberals cry before starting this crap.

Africanus on November 5, 2010 at 6:21 PM

If you want to have a say in this get yourself elected to the House of Representatives.

Buy Danish on November 5, 2010 at 3:39 PM

Effin A!!

ladyingray on November 5, 2010 at 6:23 PM

Anything to say about those rankings I posted?

And mccains cagw 2009 rating was 99%. As I said earlier, stick with the old boys and we’ll have barry for another 4 years and lose the house in 2012 or 14.

How long have you worked for hensarling?

peacenprosperity on November 5, 2010 at 6:25 PM

How long have you worked for hensarling?

Just curious, doc,since you seem to know so much about hensarling. He’s been a professional politician mostly and for a short time a lobbyist since he left law school, what’s his net worth?

peacenprosperity on November 5, 2010 at 6:29 PM

and I think that was Bachmann’s mistake she should have asked for the majority leader position than compromise for the 4th position.

unseen on November 5, 2010 at 3:57 PM

BUWAHAHAHAHA1111111!!!!

Thanks for the laugh. I needed it.

You don’t ask for a leadership position, you earn it. Clearly, she hasn’t earned for her work in the House.

Like Buy Danish said, if you want a say, run for Congress.

ladyingray on November 5, 2010 at 6:30 PM

And why should Palin say anything? She’s not in Congress.

ladyingray on November 5, 2010 at 6:11 PM

Who said she should have a say in this?

darwin on November 5, 2010 at 6:30 PM

I think we should pick our battles. Let him have this one as long as he comes through on the big stuff.

If he doesn’t – we kick his butt!

HondaV65 on November 5, 2010 at 3:49 PM

Well said. Why split the party now that we have the majority. There is too much emotion and not enough critical thinking here.

ladyingray on November 5, 2010 at 6:35 PM

Who said she should have a say in this?

darwin on November 5, 2010 at 6:30 PM

Go back to the main page and look at the question under the pic…and a lot of people here seem to think she should.

She has no more right to a say in House leadership than any of us. It is up to them.

ladyingray on November 5, 2010 at 6:37 PM

Only thing I’d say about that is that the Tea Party isn’t a “perpetual outsider movement” – eventually it takes the party – and that means leadership as well.

HondaV65 on November 5, 2010 at 3:51 PM

When it does, then Michelle and others will be the party leaders. These things take time.

ladyingray on November 5, 2010 at 6:39 PM

Go back to the main page and look at the question under the pic…and a lot of people here seem to think she should.

She has no more right to a say in House leadership than any of us. It is up to them.

ladyingray on November 5, 2010 at 6:37 PM

Yeah, I think they were referring to Palin being asked about it and declining to endorse anyone. She knows it’s not her place.

darwin on November 5, 2010 at 6:42 PM

How long have you worked for hensarling?

peacenprosperity on November 5, 2010 at 6:25 PM

Hilarious. Trust me, he’d never hire me.

I don’t know Hensarling’s net worth, but I’d be willing to bet none of it came from farm subsidies.

DrSteve on November 5, 2010 at 6:49 PM

Steve Z on November 5, 2010 at 4:22 PM

I actually think Whip (Majority or deputy) is a good job for Bachmann. She’s persuasive if you aren’t always trying to make her look stupid.

Whoever said No Bachmann because she’s a cheeleader can suck eggs. Girls are not automatically cheerleaders and boys quarterbacks. Bachmann has worked hard to help secure this majority. I don’t recall many Hensarling campaign stops.

alwaysfiredup on November 5, 2010 at 6:50 PM

It is up to them.

No. It is up to “We The People”. They cannot be trusted. Trusting them to do the right thing and choose the right people got us in this mess in the first place.

peacenprosperity on November 5, 2010 at 6:51 PM

I don’t know Hensarling’s net worth, but I’d be willing to bet none of it came from farm subsidies.

DrSteve on November 5, 2010 at 6:49 PM

If you farm, you get farm subsidies. That’s all there is to it. If taking farm subsidies means one is not a true conservative, then the GOP should focus more on getting rid of the subsidies. Have the courage of your convictions.

alwaysfiredup on November 5, 2010 at 6:52 PM

I don’t know Hensarling’s net worth, but I’d be willing to bet none of it came from farm subsidies.

Fine, I get it. You are for guys from the “harry reid school of smart investing”. You are part of the problem. You probably would have told Paul Revere to knock off the noise. That or you just have issues with women.

peacenprosperity on November 5, 2010 at 6:54 PM

It sounds like (thanks to the Tea Party) the Republican party has an embarassment of riches.

Good stuff. I’m sure Hensarling would be fine. I love Bachmann though. So they better (out of respect and gratitude) give her a good position in the leadership. It doesn’t have to be this one.

She has earned it.

Elisa on November 5, 2010 at 6:55 PM

WOW! nothing fails like success. Now the Democrats can sit back and watch us destroy ourselves from within!
I think that as tea partiers we have to be careful that we are not more interested in attaining power than in advancing the principles that created the movement in the first place. All this talk pitting the TP against the GOP is a little crazy. The tea party was a tremendous force in this election, but the biggest force was a population fed-up with the liberal policies of Obama and the Democrats which are destroying our country. Lets not let this victory go to out heads too much. Yes, we should be proud of what the tea party accomplished, but we accomplished it withing the Republican party, we could not do it otherwise. To be honest, I am at some level a little uncomfortable with looking at the tea party as a “party” rather than a movement with the purpose of holding ALL out politicians accountable.

neuquenguy on November 5, 2010 at 6:56 PM

The problem with that is she has become the person in power that is the face of TEA partiers.

Um, dude. The tea party won on Tuesday.

peacenprosperity on November 5, 2010 at 6:58 PM

They bypassed Bachmann for this guy who no one has heard of?!?! She was out there front and center trying to get other conservatives elected. Just proves that we have to keep the pressure on these squishes.

Mirimichi on November 5, 2010 at 7:16 PM

We had an amazing night on the 2nd. I am not sure why there are so many people here wanting to see the GOP crumble from within. How about we let the party that we elected in office pick who they feel is the best and support it? I didn’t want O’Donnel, but did I support her when she became the front runner? Yes! So how about you do the same for Hensarling? Give the dude a chance.

This is why I don’t post much. It seems there are more people here that would rather cut eachothers throats and give Dems back a majority than put thier sacred cows aside and work together.

I am now really not sure we want the same thing. And some people will never be satisfied.

Jesse on November 5, 2010 at 7:31 PM

No. It is up to “We The People”. They cannot be trusted. Trusting them to do the right thing and choose the right people got us in this mess in the first place.

peacenprosperity on November 5, 2010 at 6:51 PM

Sorry, but you don’t get to vote. If you’re lucky, tho, you’ll get to see it on C-SPAN.

Boehner has never taken an earmark in his life. Do you really think he is going to start now? I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt until I know different.

ladyingray on November 5, 2010 at 7:31 PM

peacenprosperity on November 5, 2010 at 6:54 PM

So, first I work for Hensarling, now I have problems with women. That is some trenchant analysis there, friend. What’s next, sticking your fingers in your ears and saying “Lalalalala?”

Seriously though, you make sure you keep arguing for a leadership position for her just the way you are, and things are going to turn out fine.

DrSteve on November 5, 2010 at 7:34 PM

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