Boehner: We’ll make sure ObamaCare “never, ever, ever is implemented”

posted at 11:36 am on November 5, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

How much time will Republicans spend on stopping ObamaCare? “As much as it takes,” John Boehner commits during his one-on-one interview with Fox’s Bret Baier. In this clip from Townhall’s Greg Hengler, Boehner insists that the action is necessary to get the economy moving again after Baier challenges Boehner on his previous criticism that Barack Obama and the Democrats spent too much time on health care while the economy stagnated. Boehner clearly ties his party’s fortunes to repealing or at least stopping ObamaCare and suggests that it will be one of the big issues in the presidential campaign two years from now:

Andrew Malcolm has the transcript:

BAIER: Healthcare — the president says he’s willing to tweak the healthcare law. You say you’re committed to repealing it. There’s a big distance between tweaking and repealing.

BOEHNER: Oh, that’s a very big difference.

BAIER: You’re still committed to repealing it?

BOEHNER: This healthcare bill will ruin the best healthcare system in the world and it will bankrupt our country.

BAIER: So you’ll take a vote on…

BOEHNER: I am convinced…

BAIER: — repealing it?

BOEHNER: We are going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with common sense reforms that will bring down the costs of health insurance.

BAIER: So what do you say to critics who say this vote is really a charade, knowing that a Democratic Senate will either stop it or the president will veto it and that it’s taking time and you could be dealing with something else? Why not try to compromise and — and at least affect it now, the healthcare law, that you can?

BOEHNER: First and foremost, this is about the greatest healthcare system in the world. And secondly, let’s not forget, this is also about jobs. And if you look at all of the requirements on employers, you can understand why they’re not hiring new employees, because we’ve raised the cost of employment.

Beyond repealing Obamacare, we’re going to do everything we can to stop this bill from being implemented, to make sure it never happens. And, frankly, if we’re successful, this will become the No. 1 issue in the presidential election…

BAIER: How…

BOEHNER: — in 2012.

BAIER: How much time are you going to spend on this?

BOEHNER: As much…

BAIER: We’ve spent…

BOEHNER: — as much as it takes.

BAIER: You criticized the president for spending too much time on healthcare. If you spend a lot of time trying to repeal it when it’s not a reality in a Democratic Senate or in a presidential veto, won’t you get criticized for that?

BOEHNER: Well, there’s a lot of tricks up our sleeves in terms of how we can dent this, kick it, slow it down to make sure it never happens. And trust me, I’m going to make sure this healthcare bill never ever, ever is implemented.

BAIER: So are you for preventing insurance companies from denying someone insurance based on pre-existing conditions?

BOEHNER: No. And there are common-sense reforms that we can agree on that will bring down the cost of health insurance.

BAIER: Are you going to start over?

BOEHNER: Start over — that’s where we were a year ago, that’s where we were six months ago. We’ve not changed our position on this at all. We told the president down at the Blair House during the seven-hour Obama infomercial that we ought to stop and start over. And we laid out the eight or nine common-sense ideas we had that would bring down the costs of health insurance.

The coverage mandate will be tricky, though, without a purchase mandate, at least in the present system.  It adds cost and risk to insurers, which will force premiums to escalate, especially if insurers can’t force healthy people to pay for comprehensive policies they don’t need.  The only way to make that work is to end the tax incentives in the employer-based insurance model, encourage people to move to HSAs and hospitalization policies, and in general restore the pricing mechanisms and return insurers to risk management rather than the role of health-care brokers.

Can Boehner deliver that kind of change after a season in which voters got sick of debate over government reordering of the health-care sector?  Let’s hope so.  It won’t go anywhere in the Senate, but it will provide evidence that the GOP is willing to take action to provide real reform to a system that has badly needed it for decades.  And in this case, the government will be reforming itself (the perverse tax incentives set up during WWII) rather than dictating the organization of a private market.


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It adds cost and risk to insurers, which will force premiums to escalate

Your desire to pay less in premiums shouldn’t force me to join in making a purchase against my will.

lorien1973 on November 5, 2010 at 11:40 AM

Boehner: We’ll make sure ObamaCare “never, ever, ever is implemented”

Yes, that brings tears to my eyes… (just kidding)

Chip on November 5, 2010 at 11:40 AM

WOO HOO!

gophergirl on November 5, 2010 at 11:40 AM

I will believe it when I see it. I believe this sentiment is pretty common among voters right now, and Boehner better be able to deliver on this issue. That’s the only way people will take him (and every other R for that matter) at his word.

JohnTheBuilder on November 5, 2010 at 11:40 AM

Strong interview. This is going to be very tough going but the commitment seems to be there, which is encouraging.

Missy on November 5, 2010 at 11:40 AM

Repeal it, stall it, or starve it to death! Any way works for me. Just stay off the “tweak it” bandwagon!

tnarch on November 5, 2010 at 11:40 AM

I could develop a man-crush on this guy. Keep it coming!

dentalque on November 5, 2010 at 11:41 AM

It adds cost and risk to insurers, which will force premiums to escalate, especially if insurers can’t force healthy people to pay for comprehensive policies they don’t need.

Also Ed. You’re falling into the nonsensical trap.

Healthy people buy insurance. That’s kinda the idea behind insurance. You buy it when you don’t need, in case you do. If healthy people didn’t buy insurance, the industry simply wouldn’t exist.

lorien1973 on November 5, 2010 at 11:41 AM

BOEHNER: We told the president down at the Blair House during the seven-hour Obama infomercial

Okay this made me laugh

gophergirl on November 5, 2010 at 11:41 AM

Please make him speaker.

blatantblue on November 5, 2010 at 11:42 AM

Our United Healthcare coverage premium is going up 48% starting in January. The annual benefits meeting yesterday might well have been confused for a wake. The Rep specifically outlined Obamacare initiatives that begin 1/1/11 as the cause of the rate hike. Specifically, he referenced the requirement that children must (not “may”) remain on the health plan until the age of 26. They can only be removed if they have access to another health plan.

So, Mr. Boehner. The plan has already been implemented and our pocketbook will be impacted. If you can stop this before 1/1/11, will my premiums go back down???

LEBA on November 5, 2010 at 11:43 AM

Insurance is what healthy people buy. People who are not healthy are simply getting a combination of charity and creative accounting they call “Insurance.”

A Balrog of Morgoth on November 5, 2010 at 11:43 AM

Now thats an iron clad Campaign promise,
and thats the type of political mettle,
that Boehners possses!!!

canopfor on November 5, 2010 at 11:43 AM

dentalque on November 5, 2010 at 11:41 AM

I have a teeny weeny lil crush on him right now…

ladyingray on November 5, 2010 at 11:44 AM

You don’t have to focus entirely on repeal. Just pass a bill, let it be vetoed, then defund any implementation. Let it fester until 2012 like a boil on the American backside.

Vashta.Nerada on November 5, 2010 at 11:45 AM

If you can stop this before 1/1/11, will my premiums go back down???

LEBA on November 5, 2010 at 11:43 AM

Since the new Congress won’t be sworn in until 1/9/11, I don’t think they’ll be able to stop it in time.

Missy on November 5, 2010 at 11:46 AM

So, Mr. Boehner. The plan has already been implemented and our pocketbook will be impacted. If you can stop this before 1/1/11, will my premiums go back down???

LEBA on November 5, 2010 at 11:43 AM

Will it be Mr. Boehner’s fault if they don’t? He did everything he could to stop it.

ladyingray on November 5, 2010 at 11:46 AM

BAIER: Healthcare — the president says he’s willing to tweak the healthcare law. You say you’re committed to repealing it. There’s a big distance between tweaking and repealing.
=============

BOEHNER: Oh, that’s a very big difference.

No Sh*t………….Hell Yes!!

canopfor on November 5, 2010 at 11:46 AM

That is one of the best repub interviews I have seen in years. He stayed on point…..the will of the people will be followed, NO earmarks, BOCare is going to die, BO is a clown, tax cuts across the board, shrink the size of gov’t. You Go, John!

David in ATL on November 5, 2010 at 11:46 AM

Boehner was in good form in the interview: pointed, poised, commanding.

Also, after Bret Baier’s questions and tone, hard for anyone to say Fox News is biased.

rrpjr on November 5, 2010 at 11:47 AM

Boehner gets it. He is listening to the folks, the majority of folks who never wanted healthcare and now they want it burned at the stake. He can’t dwell on this but he does have to continually poke a stick in Obama’s eye, with a bill here and a bill there, letting the folks know he’s got their back. It’s a good strategy if it isn’t overdone.

fogw on November 5, 2010 at 11:47 AM

Will it be Mr. Boehner’s fault if they don’t? He did everything he could to stop it.

ladyingray on November 5, 2010 at 11:46 AM

His healthcare speech was the best. That’s when I knew if we got control – he would be a great speaker.

gophergirl on November 5, 2010 at 11:47 AM

You don’t have to focus entirely on repeal. Just pass a bill, let it be vetoed, then defund any implementation. Let it fester until 2012 like a boil on the American backside.

Vashta.Nerada on November 5, 2010 at 11:45 AM

My guess is this is what they will do. Bring up repeated bills to repeal, have it killed in the Senate or vetoes by Obaka, while presenting bills to defund.

ladyingray on November 5, 2010 at 11:47 AM

John:

I love you, but don’t risk coming off like an obstructist boob. Explain that you are going to repeal ObamaCare and immediately replace it with something that will use private market forces to drive down costs. You’ve already done the work:

http://www.gop.gov/solutions/healthcare

The last thing the public wants is two years of on-again-off-again politics. Give ‘em the new plan, explain why it’s better than Obamacare (e.g. we don’t take some of your capital gains when you sell your home), and be done with it. People — and employers — need some predictability here.

VastRightWingConspirator on November 5, 2010 at 11:47 AM

I vision a day when John Boehner et al walk out onto the capitol steps and drop that 2,000 page monstrosity into a garbage truck and send it to the WH for signature with a sticky note that says, “We Won.”

ted c on November 5, 2010 at 11:47 AM

Mitch said the same thing yesterday. They are going to keep writing bills that repeal ZeroCare all the while cutting of funds. I hope they keep their word. John and Mitch seem like they are on the same page. If they don’t stick to repealing, defunding, and replacing ZeroCare they know they will be booted out of office. This is one promise they can’t afford to back down on. This is a no compromise issue.

Brat4life on November 5, 2010 at 11:47 AM

force the dems to make the tough votes.. and chip away at this one piece at a time.. there are literally thousands of funding items in this bill – each of which can be tossed out if done strategically.. before you know it (hopefully), Boehner will heap upon a grateful nation the carcass of what was once obamacare.

gatorboy on November 5, 2010 at 11:48 AM

Beyond repealing Obamacare, we’re going to do everything we can to stop this bill from being implemented, to make sure it never happens. And, frankly, if we’re successful, this will become the No. 1 issue in the presidential election…

Bon Voyage, Barry! Mull it over while you’re on vacay, and enjoy yourself.

Cody1991 on November 5, 2010 at 11:48 AM

Many may disagree, but I thought Boehner completely outflanked the Dems Tuesday night when he appeared to be a human being. I’d bet it appealed to independents.

What disappointed me about this interview is the “tricks up our sleeves” line. It will be used over and over and over and over and over again by Dems to argue that the GOP is interested only in partisan games. I don’t know how much time independents will be willing to devote to repeal. I think they’d love to hear alternatives to Obamacare. But when Boehner uses language like “tricks up our sleeves,” it’s a stupid mistake.

We will hear those words in Dem ads many times in the future.

BuckeyeSam on November 5, 2010 at 11:48 AM

His healthcare speech was the best. That’s when I knew if we got control – he would be a great speaker.

gophergirl on November 5, 2010 at 11:47 AM

Me too.

ladyingray on November 5, 2010 at 11:48 AM

It sounds good now, but I’ll believe it when I see it.

Fool me once…

ornery_independent on November 5, 2010 at 11:48 AM

This is the kind of stand people want from the Republicans.

darwin on November 5, 2010 at 11:49 AM

Where does the AA(L)RP have to say about this?

forest on November 5, 2010 at 11:49 AM

By the way, be prepared for the never-ending philosophical debate: is health care “a right?” What about health insurance?

VastRightWingConspirator on November 5, 2010 at 11:49 AM

Good interview Mr. Speaker–but I’m going to hold you to it. Fight Obamacare like your tenure as Speaker depends on it. Because it does.

james23 on November 5, 2010 at 11:49 AM

…after a season in which voters got sick of debate over government reordering of the health-care sector?

Wait… did we get sick of debate or did we get sick of the Democrats pushing onward over our voiced opposition?

myrenovations on November 5, 2010 at 11:50 AM

Say no
offer alternatives
we have to spend more time explaining our ideas for healthcare

blatantblue on November 5, 2010 at 11:50 AM

While on the topic of Obama-don’t-care, has anyone else heard of one of the aspects of that monstrosity is that in order to get reimbursement from a healthcare spending account for Over the counter medications (OTC), you will need a doctor’s prescription starting Jan 1 2011?

The implications are that doctors offices will be clogged up with patients seeking these prescriptions for basic OTC medications making it more difficult for doctors to see patients with more pressing needs.

Does anyone see how this could be a problem?

Chip on November 5, 2010 at 11:50 AM

…and in general restore the pricing mechanisms and return insurers to risk management rather than the role of health-care brokers.

Bingo! Government has so distorted the free market that private companies are serving government first, then their bottom line and customers.

cartooner on November 5, 2010 at 11:50 AM

Another John when you bring forward a bill to repeal it make it simple. Make it no more that a few pages and make it so the American People can understand what your doing. Post it online a week or two before voting on it so the people can form an opinion.

Brat4life on November 5, 2010 at 11:54 AM

Team Right wanted this Repealed,and now Boehner is on
the Political WarPath,and he says it will be an issue
in the 2012 Presidential Election,thats what the Righty
electorate wanted,and,I don’t want to hera,any whinning!!

The Liberal Party,and especially Obama,view the HealthCare
as DOA,Non-Negotiable,amd Off the Table,its been dealt with!

Boehners has essentially,dropped a Daisey Cutter and
MOAB across Hopey/Changeys bow,and yes it has to be that
large,cause Obama is running away to India to lick his
political wounds!!!!

canopfor on November 5, 2010 at 11:54 AM

Please make him speaker.

blatantblue on November 5, 2010 at 11:42 AM

Please make him POTUS!

He’s a lock for Speaker for sure…I would love to be a fly on the wall when Pelosi packs up her stuff in the Speaker’s Office she loved so much and has to suffer with a smaller one. The horror!

JetBoy on November 5, 2010 at 11:54 AM

Will it be Mr. Boehner’s fault if they don’t? He did everything he could to stop it.

ladyingray on November 5, 2010 at 11:46 AM

No, not at all. My concern is that if the bill is repealed, the insurance companies, like United Healthcare, will not reduce the rate increases back to pre-obamacare levels. It’s my opinion that it’s too late for that to happen.

I am very impressed with Mr. Boehner’s resolve, but I don’t want him to give the impression that the damage that has been done will magically disappear if the bill is repealed.

LEBA on November 5, 2010 at 11:54 AM

Boehner could be a real big plus for us.
The life story is pretty amazing- the guy was a janitor ( not the SEIU kind) and literally worked his way up from nothing.
His appearance makes him look like a country club guy but the GOP may have the right man in the right place at the right time.

jjshaka on November 5, 2010 at 11:55 AM

Another John when you bring forward a bill to repeal it make it simple. Make it no more that a few pages and make it so the American People can understand what your doing. Post it online a week or two before voting on it so the people can form an opinion.

Brat4life on November 5, 2010 at 11:54 AM

Brat4life: Most brilliant idea,great thought!!:)

canopfor on November 5, 2010 at 11:55 AM

If you are going to take candy (Obamacare) away from a baby (the political left) you have to offer up an alternative or suffer the caterwauling that results.

Repeal Obamacare, and replace it with a national market place where insurance companies offer a wide range of products that give people choices. If you want comprehensive coverage, you can have it, and you pay for it not the taxpayer. If you only want catastrophic coverage, you pay the rest and don’t complain about it.

The GOP has to explain why their plan is better because so few on the left understand how economies work, how market places work. The GOP has to explain why profit is a good thing; it means better products, more innovation, better service, and it means more competition because new companies want a slice of that potential profit, and bring new ideas, new products to market. It works for ‘cell ‘phones and desktop computers, why not health insurance?

Skandia Recluse on November 5, 2010 at 11:55 AM

Please make him POTUS!

He’s a lock for Speaker for sure…I would love to be a fly on the wall when Pelosi packs up her stuff in the Speaker’s Office she loved so much and has to suffer with a smaller one. The horror!

JetBoy on November 5, 2010 at 11:54 AM

Dammit, you posted my exact post before I did! Well said!

fossten on November 5, 2010 at 11:57 AM

Hmm …

I think Boehner …

Hmmm …

How do I put this?

I support what he’s saying – hell, what he’s saying EXCITES me but …

If he’s going to make ObamaCare his number one issue …

then he needs to demonstrate how the CBO’s numbers were completely false and he needs to demonstrate how O’Care is killing jobs. Hold some hearings – bring in some small business owners – something.

“Jobs” right now, is number one on the mind of Americans. He can’t commit the same sin that Obama did. Obama ignored the economy for the sake of ObamaCare. Boehner must not be perceived as ignoring the economy for the sake of reapealing ObamaCare.

I agree – ObamaCare is a job killer – that point needs to be constanly hammered. The message should be … “Repeal OCare = Improving Jobs”

HondaV65 on November 5, 2010 at 11:58 AM

offer alternatives
we have to spend more time explaining our ideas for healthcare

blatantblue on November 5, 2010 at 11:50 AM

blatantblue:Another great idea,yup,and explain it as it re
lates to Small Business’s and implcations of
hiring future employees,or status in regards to
current employees!:)

canopfor on November 5, 2010 at 11:58 AM

Talk is cheap. I’ll believe it when I see it.

FloatingRock on November 5, 2010 at 12:00 PM

If only the American electorate was educated on the limits placed on the federal government as enumerated in the constitution. If they were, these kinds of socialist engineering legislation would never see the light of day. THIS is what the Tea Party is about.

csdeven on November 5, 2010 at 12:01 PM

Stop ObamunistCare, Mr. Boehner.

dogsoldier on November 5, 2010 at 12:01 PM

More BS blow-smoke-up-the-Tea-Part-ass crap from Boehner. Too bad less than a quarter of the American public consider repeal a serious priority.

You kids are going to be REALLY disappointed when they cave in on Obamacare and few if any of their promised government shut down fantasies actually happen.

cornfedbubba on November 5, 2010 at 12:02 PM

Meanwhile………………………….

Leftys are slowy beginning to snap……..

on hearing Boehners,just wait till Cuda picks up with
the HealthCare Repealation of……….and runs with
it!

canopfor on November 5, 2010 at 12:02 PM

Mr. Boehner, just remember that they call meth addicts ‘tweakers’.

Leave the liberal spendocrats Jonesing. Cold turkey.

GnuBreed on November 5, 2010 at 12:03 PM

canopfor on November 5, 2010 at 11:58 AM

Our people don’t explain enough.

We say “no” to Obarfy-care, and we point out what is wrong with it, but we don’t emphasize enough our OWN PLANS

blatantblue on November 5, 2010 at 12:03 PM

The problem with modern perceptions of what healthcare should be like is that they are mostly utopian and in essence nonsensical.

NEWSFLASH!!!

People get sick, some don’t get better, all eventually die.

Be we don’t like to think about this truth. Instead, we prefer to blame someone, e.g. greedy insurance companies, republicans that want the elderly to die now, or bad, failed or nonexistent policies that need resolution now.

NEWSUPDATE!!!

Any attempted changes to the above listed blame recipients will only make a dent in the real problem: Transgression against God deserves DEATH and what we experience now on earth is a result of the fall of man.

Sure it would be great if the conservatives make a difference but don’t trust them, don’t trust any politicians, don’t trust your religious leaders. Trust the one who came and put death to death in his death. I’m speaking of spiritual life.

shick on November 5, 2010 at 12:03 PM

Dammit, you posted my exact post before I did! Well said!

fossten on November 5, 2010 at 11:57 AM

You mean we agree on something?

*faints*

JetBoy on November 5, 2010 at 12:05 PM

Too bad less than a quarter of the American public consider repeal a serious priority.
cornfedbubba on November 5, 2010 at 12:02 PM

Care to provide some polling data to support that contention?

Chip on November 5, 2010 at 12:05 PM

Well Boehner, you gave a good interview. The bad news is that if you do NOT do as you said we WILL hold you to it.

Ya hear me?

Cookies Mom on November 5, 2010 at 12:06 PM

You kids are going to be REALLY disappointed when they cave in on Obamacare and few if any of their promised government shut down fantasies actually happen.

cornfedbubba on November 5, 2010 at 12:02 PM

cornfedbubba:Ummmm NO,its called,

The Great Grand Purge 2012,I think,you have
watched the RINO Season in operation,in the
Great Purge of 2010!

Abd btw,Team Liberal still has a Party that
needs to be political vented as well,Grayson
was a h*llavu good start!

canopfor on November 5, 2010 at 12:06 PM

Too bad less than a quarter of the American public consider repeal a serious priority.
cornfedbubba on November 5, 2010 at 12:02 PM

Care to provide some polling data to support that contention?

Chip on November 5, 2010 at 12:05 PM

It’s the same polling firm that assured Nancy Pelosi she’d keep her majority….Unicorn & Toothfairy, Inc.

angryed on November 5, 2010 at 12:07 PM

You mean we agree on something?

*faints*

JetBoy on November 5, 2010 at 12:05 PM

You guys are too easy. Some cheap talk and you’ve fallen under his spell already?

FloatingRock on November 5, 2010 at 12:10 PM

I’m liking Tammy Faye Boehner more and more.
(Dennis Miller)

carbon_footprint on November 5, 2010 at 12:10 PM

Boehner is in a take-no-prisoners mood. I love it!

dczombie on November 5, 2010 at 12:10 PM

He is making me warm.

Elizabetty on November 5, 2010 at 12:12 PM

The problem is not the cost of health insurance: it is government being unwilling to pay for the full treatments of those in Medicare/Medicaid and having that cost pushed onto the rest of the population. Costs then go up for everyone, including the government….

Then health insurance gets subsidized via the tax code so we don’t know the actual cost of our medical care because we can write a part of it off. Thus we no longer treat it as an economic good at full price, but one at a discount. These do not balance out as the utilization of a subsidized good will go up, thus making it more scarce and raising prices…

Tell you what, get the government to pony up for each and every treatment, remove the subsidies and encourage charitable systems for treating the poor.

ajacksonian on November 5, 2010 at 12:12 PM

Please make him POTUS!

Someone has a Boehner boner.

lorien1973 on November 5, 2010 at 12:13 PM

I love the lib spin now. After 2008 they won and so the American people spoke and gave them carte blanche to do whatever they want.

In 2010 The Reps won but now they still have to do whatever the Dems want.

Sorry kids, it doesn’t work like that.

angryed on November 5, 2010 at 12:14 PM

Boehner is still a political elitist hack, hell Boehner is the f’n establishment.

He’s saying what people want to hear. Tell me, are you going to remove the mandate, and how the heck are you going to do that?

MadDogF on November 5, 2010 at 12:16 PM

The problem with modern perceptions of what healthcare should be like is that they are mostly utopian and in essence nonsensical.

The bigger problem is that:

1 – it’s impossible to comparison shop.

2 – defensive medicine.

3 – collusion between referring doctors.

I also think too many people are insured. It encourages overbilling for services, since you don’t know what anything costs (nor do you care), it allows doctors to charge the maximum cost for everything.

Imagine if your auto insurance covered oil changes. Think you would still be able to buy one for $15 ?

lorien1973 on November 5, 2010 at 12:17 PM

Vote on it early and often. Make every progressive be on record as voting against repealing it. Then, send it to the Senate and make them vote on it. Just at least get these clowns on record as voting to keep Obamacare as law of the land.

It will make our job a lot easier in 2012 as to which Congressperson and which Senator needs to be voted out.

yogi41 on November 5, 2010 at 12:18 PM

ajacksonian on November 5, 2010 at 12:12 PM

That’s part of it. I think another problem is the secrecy of the cost of medicine. You walk into any store and buy something, you know the cost when you check out.

Yet with health care, you go to the doctor or to the ER and you have no idea what the cost is. You give them the health insurance card and a month later you get a 7 page bill from them and a 12 page explanation of benefits from your insurance company. You need a PhD to figure out what the cost is for what.

Why can’t there be a price list for health care? MRI..$400. X-Ray, $125 Doctor’s visit $50. And then if one doctor is $50 and the other is $250, we have the choice on which one we want. And if everyone chooses $50, the $250 will have to lower his price or go out of business.

In every other business in the world the customer knows upfront what the cost is. Why is medicine so special that we have to wait until after we’ve purchased the product to know the cost?

angryed on November 5, 2010 at 12:18 PM

Care to provide some polling data to support that contention?
Chip on November 5, 2010 at 12:05 PM

It’s the same polling firm that assured Nancy Pelosi she’d keep her majority….Unicorn & Toothfairy, Inc.
angryed on November 5, 2010 at 12:07 PM

Cornfedbubba seems to be typical of the leftist-oppressives – short on facts, long on BS.

It’s going to be a real sad day fro them when it is repealed, or defunded or however way that monstrosity is stopped.
Here they sacrificed their majority, thinkingly we wouldn’t dare repeal it and it Will go down the drain.
It will certainly be a sad day for the leftist-oppressives, very sad indeed.

It almost makes you feel sad for them … there it passed.

Chip on November 5, 2010 at 12:18 PM

The Great Grand Purge of 2010,is in the books,
some like Boehner know that they are on Super Secret
Double Probation,and if they F”Up,

its,

2012 El Purgo Cometh!!
==========================
Animal House Rules:

Team Right Proposes to Use DOUBLE SECRET PROBATION
which is in play!

canopfor on November 5, 2010 at 12:19 PM

As a concerned conservative, I don’t know whether to congratulate Mr. Boehner for finding his nutsac$, or shun him for being divisive. Guess I’ll wait to see what they suggest on the evening news.

james23 on November 5, 2010 at 12:21 PM

Excuse me for being a skeptic here, but I really hate that 3 days after we had such a big win the new majority leader is out there making huge promises that he may or may not be able to keep. He doesn’t say what his proposals are, and that’s about as definitive as Pelosi saying we’ll have to pass a bill before we know how good it is. How good is his plan?

Slightly OT, I don’t think McConnell is being very helpful with his comments about ending Obamas term because it sounds just as divisive as the dems have been and that is a lot of what voters are sick and tired of. Of course we want him to be a one term president but to talk about it being your number one priority instead of JOBS AND THE ECONOMY is not helpful for the party. Same goes for Michelle’s comment about the olive branch. Can we just get busy and quit with the negativity?

scalleywag on November 5, 2010 at 12:21 PM

Today a study was reported in the KC Star (and I’m sure it was copied from a much better source) which proved that CT scans are much more effective than X-rays in detecting lung cancer early, and improving patient outcomes by 20%.

But Obamacare would de-fund the effective CT scans and MRI’s in favor of ineffective X-Rays…based solely on costs.

This is the major flaw in Obamacare: it tries to optimize financial outcomes for the government, but ignores health outcomes for patients. It also tries to maximize government control of everything, regardless of impact upon patients, business, healthcare providers, and anything else.

It is a mis-targeted and flawed measure which MUST BE REPEALED.

landlines on November 5, 2010 at 12:24 PM

This time around, let’s have the full and public debate on health care. Let’s discuss why legislators and senior staffers exempted themselves; all of the risks, costs and benefits of the 2,000 pages of mandates, the constitutionality of the current plan, the true cost to the taxpayers, what it means to have DC bureaucrats dictating the minutiae of policy benefits and provisions, etc. The plan is deliberately crafted to push employers out of providing healthcare and small insurers out of the market– why is that? What are the experiences of individual states that took control of their citizens’ healthcare? Let’s discuss how United Healthcare/huge insurers, AARP, big pharmaceuticals and unions benefit from Obamacare.

This time do ALL of it on CSPAN with the all of the transparency that was never delivered in the rush to push this on an unwilling nation.

Then we’ll see who votes repeal up or down, and just before the 2012 elections.

obladioblada on November 5, 2010 at 12:25 PM

You guys are too easy. Some cheap talk and you’ve fallen under his spell already?

FloatingRock on November 5, 2010 at 12:10 PM

Have you been paying attention the last couple of years? Boehner has been the loudest, most effective voice for our side of the aisle in Congress.

But someone like Christine O’Donnell, who hasn’t done anything except for talk, is A-OK?

JetBoy on November 5, 2010 at 12:25 PM

Come on Boehner, were the hell were you clowns when you were in charge before?

You could of fixed health insurance with free market reforms but you spent you damned time on Terri Shiavo and other nonsense.

You clowns opened the door for the Democrats to exploit the issue.

Get something done for god sakes.

rickyricardo on November 5, 2010 at 12:26 PM

Has anyone seen any coverage on the state referendums on Obamacare? I know that the states that put it to vote overwhelmingly defeated Obamacare, but wonder why little, if anything, has been discussed about it.

obladioblada on November 5, 2010 at 12:27 PM

Have you been paying attention the last couple of years? Boehner has been the loudest, most effective voice for our side of the aisle in Congress.

But someone like Christine O’Donnell, who hasn’t done anything except for talk, is A-OK?

JetBoy on November 5, 2010 at 12:25 PM

I’ll believe the loudness of his voice when it is matched with corresponding actions.

You presume too much about my opinion of O’Donnell.

FloatingRock on November 5, 2010 at 12:33 PM

…fly on the wall…

JetBoy and Fossten….Your wish made true.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m6UpBD0OS0&feature=player_embedded

Cecil on November 5, 2010 at 12:34 PM

You give them the health insurance card and a month later you get a 7 page bill from them and a 12 page explanation of benefits from your insurance company

Yeah, if your lucky. A lot of the time, the first bill you receive will be 7 months later, from a collection agency. This is a huge undereported problem with medical billing – they don’t even know how to bill, and when they finally figure it out, you’re already 6 months past due. Bye Bye credit rating.

cktheman on November 5, 2010 at 12:37 PM

We all know that a full repeal is not possible until and unless we get 2/3 of the Senate and House to override Obama’s veto OR we elect a Republican president and have a filibuster proof majority in the Senate. The second scenario is more achievable at this point. We needed to do better in the Senate elections this round to have a prayer of getting to 66 Senators by 2013.

In the meantime, it’s critical to hold these tough votes to put people on record – that gives us ammunition to go after Democrats in seats that will be up in 2012 (mainly on turf that’s much more favorable to the GOP). Let Obama veto it if we somehow get it past a Democratic filibuster. In the meantime, we can work on defunding, cutting back, etc. the law and fighting it in courts across the land. We need an “all of the above” strategy to fight this monstrosity.

Jill1066 on November 5, 2010 at 12:39 PM

It won’t go anywhere in the Senate

Ed Morrissey

I wouldn’t go this far, particularly if the GOP package arrives with a replacement set of ideas. For example, if the GOP postpones implementation of all of Obamacare for ten years, while simultaneously putting a number of “common sense ideas”, like cross-state sales, risk pooling for small business, minimum policy requirements (to include pre-existing conditions) etc, then would the Senate Democrats really be willing to vote against that package? Would Joe Manchin vote against that? Ben Nelson? Any Democrat up in 2012?

MTF on November 5, 2010 at 12:39 PM

All that stands between the America we knew and O-blivion are these few representatives of the people… Stand strong and fight!

unlisted on November 5, 2010 at 12:40 PM

JetBoy and Fossten….Your wish made true.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m6UpBD0OS0&feature=player_embedded

Cecil on November 5, 2010 at 12:34 PM

Sweet!

Ask, and ye shall receive.

JetBoy on November 5, 2010 at 12:40 PM

You mean we agree on something?

*faints*

JetBoy on November 5, 2010 at 12:05 PM

I didn’t mean to. :p

You guys are too easy. Some cheap talk and you’ve fallen under his spell already?

FloatingRock on November 5, 2010 at 12:10 PM

Oh come on, lighten up. He deserves a chance to be Speaker, and I think my esteemed colleague JetBoy is just being optimistic. Let’s not borrow trouble, k?

fossten on November 5, 2010 at 12:47 PM

The country cannot afford ObamaCare. Corporations are going to be cutting (Boeing) health insurance policies and dumping those people on the government.

Single payer anyone? And we still won’t be able to pay for it.

Today AARP announced they were raising premiums on their EMPLOYEES by as much as 13%. Seems the cost of medical care is going UP.

Wasn’t ObamaCare going to bend the cost curve down?

GarandFan on November 5, 2010 at 12:47 PM

All I know is the GOP better be real careful about promising to do this or that unless they know for sure it can be done. Boehner sounds a little cocky 3 days into the win. So does McConnell. I don’t like it.

scalleywag on November 5, 2010 at 12:48 PM

It won’t go anywhere in the Senate

Ed Morrissey

I’m of the opinion that several democrats up in 2012 and 2014 may be rethinking how they would vote on repeal. Can we get 67 votes? I don’t know, but would like to try. Procedurally, they can’t push the filibuster, since they only had 51 votes to push it in the first place.

Vashta.Nerada on November 5, 2010 at 12:48 PM

As far as I’m concerned except sealing the border they could work on REPEAL for the next two years, and de-fund it at every turn.

THE HOUSE HOLDS THE WALLET………..NOT THE PRESIDENT.

PappyD61 on November 5, 2010 at 12:51 PM

Make the DOTUS veto it.

If what Rush said that “there’s blood in the political waters” then maybe they’ll push and push until they force the White House to veto the bill and explain why they did it.

We’ll have Conservatives of all stripes working to support the bill so we’re not without voice. We don’t have to be scared of them anymore.

PappyD61 on November 5, 2010 at 12:53 PM

THE HOUSE HOLDS THE WALLET………..NOT THE PRESIDENT.

PappyD61 on November 5, 2010 at 12:51 PM

PappyD61:Bingo:)

canopfor on November 5, 2010 at 12:56 PM

Some of you guys make repeal sound like a grand omnibus effort launched at some point and follow through, dominating the discussion until it’s done. That isn’t the case. Clearly, the bill has passed and cannot be unpassed with a Dem-controlled senate and POTUS. We therefore have to take each provision as it looms or becomes active and begins to inflict pain and kill it, using whatever means possible. If you shoot enough holes in it, the whole thing falls apart. Remember this: any bill forced upon us with dirty tricks can rightfully be taken out with dirty tricks. This is one case where the “we are above that sort of thing” rule does not apply.

Immolate on November 5, 2010 at 12:56 PM

canopfor on November 5, 2010 at 11:58 AM
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Our people don’t explain enough.

We say “no” to Obarfy-care, and we point out what is wrong with it, but we don’t emphasize enough our OWN PLANS

blatantblue on November 5, 2010 at 12:03 PM

blatantblue:Your exactly right,but,I have faith,this round
they have to do better,and I think they will:)

canopfor on November 5, 2010 at 1:01 PM

Wait just a dang gum minute here. You telling me that an ignorant Republican like John Boehner get it and brilliant President Obama does not? Talk about contrasting views, Obama keeps spouting his delusion that Democrats lost because of poor messaging or the slow pace of change. Keep that up Obama and you’ll be a one termer and the Republicans will control Congress after 2012.

http://www.bluecollarphilosophy.com/2010/11/obama-will-ensure-republican-victory-in.html

Blue Collar Todd on November 5, 2010 at 1:04 PM

BAIER: You criticized the president for spending too much time on healthcare. If you spend a lot of time trying to repeal it when it’s not a reality in a Democratic Senate or in a presidential veto, won’t you get criticized for that?

Wow, actually some decent interviewing there.

crr6 on November 5, 2010 at 1:06 PM

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