Bayh: We’re going to lose big because Democrats “doubled down” on spending

posted at 3:59 pm on November 1, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Evan Bayh appeared on Morning Joe today not to praise Democrats but to bury their hopes for any success in tomorrow’s midterm elections. Why will Democrats take a beating tomorrow? According to Bayh, the blame goes to bad timing and no follow-through:

Er …sure.  Bayh notes that ObamaCare fulfilled a long-time “dream” of Democrats, but expanding (actually, adding) an entitlement in the middle of an economic disaster might not have been the greatest timing for Obama and Congress.  Also, everyone apparently agreed that Porkulus was necessary for the recovery, according to Bayh, but Democrats failed to follow through on their wild spending with, um, deficit reduction. No kidding!  It sounds as if Bayh took his talking points from the final interview in Reason TV’s look at the Rally to Restore Sanity, where a clearly befuddled attendee said that the way to reduce debt is to spend a lot more first, and then kinda look around to see where that takes you.

Democrats will lose tomorrow because they ran as moderates and then rammed a radical agenda down the throats of the electorate while ignoring the economic stagnation they caused.  It’s really not much more complicated than that, except for Democrats looking for the most palatable excuses they can possibly find.

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Bayh: We’re going to lose big because Democrats “doubled down” on spending

…with gusto and impertinence never witnessed before.

Live with it!

Btw, where are the troll today?

Schadenfreude on November 1, 2010 at 4:01 PM

troll = trolls

Schadenfreude on November 1, 2010 at 4:02 PM

Bayh: the party should seriously consider a primary challenge to Obama in 2012. I’m not naming names, but it should be somebody who’s good on TV, from one of the states in the middle, somebody who criticizes Obama from a moderate perspective. Hey, I know just the guy!

joe_doufu on November 1, 2010 at 4:03 PM

Nov 2 can’t get here fast enough….

SPGuy on November 1, 2010 at 4:03 PM

Democrats will lose tomorrow because they ran as moderates and then rammed a radical agenda down the throats of the electorate while ignoring the economic stagnation they caused. It’s really not much more complicated than that, except for Democrats looking for the most palatable excuses they can possibly find.

History, NOT the media, will record this. Perfect summation!

Schadenfreude on November 1, 2010 at 4:04 PM

By July of next year, Bayh will announce he’s running for Prez

ConservativePartyNow on November 1, 2010 at 4:04 PM

Btw, where are the troll today?

Schadenfreude on November 1, 2010 at 4:01 PM

Hiding in their Mommy’s basement sobbing uncontrollably.

Oldnuke on November 1, 2010 at 4:04 PM

Btw, where are the troll today?

Schadenfreude on November 1, 2010 at 4:01 PM

Crry6 was on earlier, but I don’t think his heart was in it.

He knows the Tea-nami will be so high, the bridge he lives under will be wiped out.

portlandon on November 1, 2010 at 4:04 PM

There’s gonna be a lot of ship jumping over the next few months as Dimmocrits digest each other.

By the way – RCP has moved MS-4 to “toss up” – which means Gene Taylor may be going HOME!!

If the voters reject him – it won’t be because of his votes – he voted against O’Care and has even vowed to repeal it …

If they vote him out – it will be solely because of his party affiliation.

HondaV65 on November 1, 2010 at 4:05 PM

Idiot. This is supposed to be the Democrats next messiah? These people are insane.

jawkneemusic on November 1, 2010 at 4:05 PM

Bayh is right. What were the Dems thinking voting for insane spending bills like Porkulus and Obamacare?

What’s that? Bayh also voted for both bills? Oh, never mind.

Doughboy on November 1, 2010 at 4:06 PM

They will never accept any responsibility for what they’ve done. I don’t excuse Republicans for their part, but it never ceases to amaze me how Dems refuse to ever see their actions being responsible for the mess.

Nor, apparently are those blind followers. Good lord. Spend an enormous amount of money, and just see where it takes us? That person is NOT running for office….are they???

capejasmine on November 1, 2010 at 4:06 PM

It’s really not much more complicated than that, except for Democrats looking for the most palatable excuses they can possibly find.

don’t worry, Ed. Crr6 is doing just fine.

ted c on November 1, 2010 at 4:07 PM

Bayh says Bye

Cookies Mom on November 1, 2010 at 4:09 PM

So then, Obamacare and profligate spending would have been fine, had they been promulgated during a boom time. It’s just the timing that’s the problem. Bayh seems to be a kinder, gentler Democrat. Same wrong presuppositions, but he attempts to seem reasonable about it.

paul1149 on November 1, 2010 at 4:09 PM

Primary challenge coming from Big phony opportunist Bayh. He voted for everything the Dems wanted and then left town. And is it just me, or does he look like the Breck Girl?

Buy Danish on November 1, 2010 at 4:09 PM

I disagree… they’re going to lose 100% because of ObamaCare… which Bayh voted for…

ninjapirate on November 1, 2010 at 4:10 PM

Democrats will lose tomorrow because they ran as moderates and then rammed a radical agenda down the throats of the electorate while ignoring the economic stagnation they caused. It’s really not much more complicated than that, except for Democrats looking for the most palatable excuses they can possibly find.

Yep.. The only thing I’d add to that is the effects of a President who has denigrated the most powerful office in the world so blatantly, and so horribly.

Keemo on November 1, 2010 at 4:10 PM

Yep, he’s gotta sound confused because cognitive chaos is the only language the Dem base understands.

I’ve been suspecting since he retired unexpectedly that Evan Bayh is gonna primary POTUS. Actually even before – seems like he’s been laying the groundwork to position himself as the anti-Obama for a pretty long time now.

leilani on November 1, 2010 at 4:11 PM

t sounds as if Bayh took his talking points from the final interview in Reason TV’s look at the Rally to Restore Sanity, where a clearly befuddled attendee said that the way to reduce debt is to spend a lot more first, and then kinda look around to see where that takes you.

Why are saying it now? We’ve known that EVER SINCE! COWARD AND LAME!

This is my problem with many GOP men: they are too COWARD to speak of what they really believe in. In the end, they contributed nothing to the cause.

TheAlamos on November 1, 2010 at 4:11 PM

Bayh is about as charismatic as Play Doh.

Oink on November 1, 2010 at 4:11 PM

Well, a couple things to point out… There is no good time to ruin the economy. I have never woken up or heard of someone waking up in the morning and complaining that unemployment is too low or that the job market is too good.

Secondly, Ed is right. They pushed all sorts of radical left bills on to the American people. Bayh, says healthcare was a good bill, but of course “good” is an opinion, not a fact. Good proof of this is that in 2006, the Reps got beat because of spending, but nothing like the Dems are about to see.

Lastly, he is just trying to make it sound like the spending is their only problem. They are far left socialists and we do not want a part of that garbage.

jeffn21 on November 1, 2010 at 4:11 PM

joe_doufu on November 1, 2010 at 4:03 PM

I was thinking the exact same thing…He is retiring, he is young, moderate vs uber liberal…

jjjdad on November 1, 2010 at 4:11 PM

Hiding in their Mommy’s basement sobbing uncontrollably doing what they normally do there: getting high.

Oldnuke on November 1, 2010 at 4:04 PM

FIFY.

Kafir on November 1, 2010 at 4:12 PM

And is it just me, or does he look like the Breck Girl?

Buy Danish on November 1, 2010 at 4:09 PM

Nope, it’s not just you my friend.. This guy is the cover girl for girly-man magazine.

Keemo on November 1, 2010 at 4:12 PM

Democrats will lose tomorrow because they ran as moderates and then rammed a radical agenda down the throats of the electorate

Yep, pretty simple…they lied…

right2bright on November 1, 2010 at 4:14 PM

Every liberal media outlet that reports on the election results will all have pre-scripted obits ready to blame the disasterous results on. Wonder how many will blame Bush for this one.

fourdeucer on November 1, 2010 at 4:14 PM

Ram it down our throats in 2009, and we’ll stick it……..

The Mega Independent on November 1, 2010 at 4:15 PM

It’s good to see Evan Bayh is still residing in his own private Fantasyland.

pilamaye on November 1, 2010 at 4:16 PM

There was no dream of health care, there was only the dream socialized medicine. Timing had nothing to do with 2,000+ pages of government crushing regulation and out of control spending.

Let those that cast the vote for Obamacare be the first out of a job.

Kini on November 1, 2010 at 4:17 PM

It was arrogance, total and complete arrogance.
Obama thought that he had a mandate for his agenda. Problem is he never reveal what his agenda was (except by accident to Joe the Plumber).

Spendulous: Anger surged.
Porkulus: More anger.
Obama Care, crammed down our throats: Anger boiled over.
We wrote congress and were ignored.
We protested and were vilified.
We funded Scott Brown (despite his moderate ways) and Obama got spanked.
We funded Christy in NJ and Obama got spanked.
Same in Virginia.
November is here.
Obama will not just get spanked, he will get castrated.
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When the left protests, they pay welfare recipients and bus them in. It is all astro-turf.
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When the middle American protests it is real and they better listen.
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They did not listen and they are about to learn a very hard lesson.
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May their minority status be permanent.

The Rock on November 1, 2010 at 4:18 PM

Btw, where are the troll today?

Schadenfreude on November 1, 2010 at 4:01 PM

JohnGalt23 and The Blue Site are on the O’Donnell threads.

fossten on November 1, 2010 at 4:19 PM

I just have to point out the “Lean Forward” in the corner of the screen, they really are sticking to that stupidity.

Bayh looks like a beaten dog, tail between his legs shuddering every time his master lifts a hand. Yeah he may be setting himself up to run against Obama in 2012

The Expert Knows

HAExpert on November 1, 2010 at 4:19 PM

Bayh had the right stuff to one day have become the President. Instead he threw it all away for, what? To support the insanity of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid and Barack Hussien Obama. To bad, but there is no fixing that now.

MikeA on November 1, 2010 at 4:19 PM

Any Democrat with half a brain knew their party was toast the day they passed Obamacare.

I know I give them way too much credit on the brain percentage, and I should also make another correction, they didn’t really pass Obamacare, they shoved it down our throats.

Buh-bye now.

fogw on November 1, 2010 at 4:20 PM

He needs a trip to the Obamaster’s office for being a blabbermouth… And anyway… he is wrong…
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They are about to be crushed because they foisted the Unknown Zero upon this great country’s people. They used the good hearts of Americans against US and tricked the middle of the spectrum voters into supporting the lie of hope and change as sold by a deceiving Marxist charlatan.
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They played on the past racial sins of the country to guilt people into looking past the obvious; Obama is an America hater in his heart. He said it over and over in a number of ways. Before, during and after his election.
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I hold every Dem accountable for supporting this attempted theft of our country. The bast*rds on the left were willing to follow this POS into the depths of dictatorship if that was where he led. P*ss on them all.
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And yes the spending and doubling down was a problem… But Obama is THE PROBLEM.

RalphyBoy on November 1, 2010 at 4:21 PM

Mark Levin makes the best analogy for what Obama has done in the metaphorical driving example. Obama has piloted the country over the bridge at Chappaquiddick and is trying to get away with it.

fourdeucer on November 1, 2010 at 4:27 PM

I can see Bayh forming a third party for the “traditional” democrats, to decouple that constituency from the train wreck of the progressive lead democrat party.

Rebar on November 1, 2010 at 4:30 PM

Bayh should be thanking Obama and Joe BiteMe

Kini on November 1, 2010 at 4:30 PM

If they vote him out – it will be solely because of his party affiliation.

HondaV65 on November 1, 2010 at 4:05 PM

Nothing wrong with that.

Extrafishy on November 1, 2010 at 4:32 PM

Democrats will lose tomorrow because they ran as moderates and then rammed a radical agenda down the throats of the electorate while ignoring the economic stagnation they caused. It’s really not much more complicated than that, except for Democrats looking for the most palatable excuses they can possibly find.

spot on Ed, nuff said

cmsinaz on November 1, 2010 at 4:32 PM

Btw, where are the troll today?

Schadenfreude on November 1, 2010 at 4:01 PM

JohnGalt23 and The Blue Site are on the O’Donnell threads.

fossten on November 1, 2010 at 4:19 PM

I think it’s safe to predict that for Wednesday, most of the internet will be a political troll-free zone.

Greg Toombs on November 1, 2010 at 4:37 PM

Bye Bye polishing up his credes for a run at Saracuda or “Cousin Eddie” Obama first if the lyin Pinnochio Resident decides to try it again or if someone doesn’t release his real Birth certificate while he’s hidin out over in India tryin to avoid any responsibility for the destruction he has caused the Rat Party!

dhunter on November 1, 2010 at 4:38 PM

He needs a trip to the Obamaster’s office for being a blabbermouth… And anyway… he is wrong…
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They are about to be crushed because they foisted the Unknown Zero upon this great country’s people. They used the good hearts of Americans against US and tricked the middle of the spectrum voters into supporting the lie of hope and change as sold by a deceiving Marxist charlatan.
-
They played on the past racial sins of the country to guilt people into looking past the obvious; Obama is an America hater in his heart. He said it over and over in a number of ways. Before, during and after his election.
-
I hold every Dem accountable for supporting this attempted theft of our country. The bast*rds on the left were willing to follow this POS into the depths of dictatorship if that was where he led. P*ss on them all.
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And yes the spending and doubling down was a problem… But Obama is THE PROBLEM.

RalphyBoy on November 1, 2010 at 4:21 PM

Nailed it! +

paragon27x on November 1, 2010 at 4:38 PM

Well, I’ll still never vote for you, Evan Bayh, Master of the Obvious.

cynccook on November 1, 2010 at 4:39 PM

Here is what I hate, when somebody comes before me with a bunch of BS excuses and rationalizations, lies and equivocations like an ex-boyfriend who sits there telling me how he always loved me, baby, was always true, and never cheated on me. When you know, the whole time, that none of that bears any resemblance to what went down in actuality, and he certainly did cheat on you, and third parties came and told you their eye witness accounts, in addition to all the tells you saw for yourself.

Just go away, and stay away. I dump you, dump you a hundred thousand times, you Bayh, and all the rest of ya. Talk to the hand.

perries on November 1, 2010 at 4:39 PM

Yeah, because if you’re drunk, the way to get sober is to drink a lot more.

John the Libertarian on November 1, 2010 at 4:43 PM

Evan Bayh, thanks for the update…

Hope you didn’t spend too much time thinking that one up…

Khun Joe on November 1, 2010 at 4:44 PM

Bayh Translation:

WE WEREN’T AT FAULT!

GarandFan on November 1, 2010 at 4:46 PM

I think it’s safe to predict that for Wednesday, most of the internet will be a political troll-free zone.

Greg Toombs on November 1, 2010 at 4:37 PM

i don’t know, they’ve already started bashing sarah, I think it will continue after tomorrow night…deflect their loss and focus on her instead…

cmsinaz on November 1, 2010 at 4:47 PM

I disagree… they’re going to lose 100% because of ObamaCare… which Bayh voted for…

ninjapirate on November 1, 2010 at 4:10 PM

Sure, you and fogw are right, but it says the same…ObamaCare was the zenith of impertinence, incl. how it was shoved down…

RalphyBoy, you are right, but the ‘independents’ and Rs who voted for him MUST also be blamed and can’t be let off the hook. How could any of them have done so? How?

Schadenfreude on November 1, 2010 at 4:49 PM

My collie says:

Indiana needs to bring back Dan Quayle.

CyberCipher on November 1, 2010 at 4:50 PM

…that’s not to mean that McCain would have been great, just slower at such destructive endeavors.

This way the frog couldn’t take the boiling water all at once…and tomorrow will jump out. What happens next, Rs beware! You are next if you didn’t learn.

Schadenfreude on November 1, 2010 at 4:51 PM

No Mr.Bayh…that’s why you might WIN!

Democrats have doubled down (and worse) on spending, to the point where the public now perceives your side as having some fiscal sense, despite all the evidence to the contrary.

Run with that and you’ll win.

Btw, where are the troll today?

Schadenfreude on November 1, 2010 at 4:01 PM

There’s a facepalm-inducing comedy on the personal income thread; Crr6 and the resident wingnuts have hit the bottom of the Illogic Pit and are breaking out the shovels.

Dark-Star on November 1, 2010 at 4:59 PM

Strike that, looks like crr6 is now definitely on the losing side.

Dark-Star on November 1, 2010 at 5:02 PM

The American Tea Party Patriots will Double Down
in their voting as well!!

canopfor on November 1, 2010 at 5:03 PM

My collie says:

Indiana needs to bring back Dan Quayle.

CyberCipher on November 1, 2010 at 4:50 PM

CyberCipher:That would certianly wipe the smirk off of
Murphy Brown thats for sure!(sarc):)

canopfor on November 1, 2010 at 5:14 PM

I can see Bayh forming a third party for the “traditional” democrats, to decouple that constituency from the train wreck of the progressive lead democrat party.

Rebar on November 1, 2010 at 4:30 PM

I don’t think a third party would be necessary. All Bayh would have to do is step back, (which he has already done), and let the lefty progressives get their hats handed to them… then step in as the voice of Democrat moderation, riding to the rescue to save the party.

Hmmm…. one wonders if Evan Bayh has presidential aspirations for 2012???

Murf76 on November 1, 2010 at 5:18 PM

Pretty sad when Evan Bayh, who voted for every dem program this session, is your party’s great “centrist” hope.

chris999 on November 1, 2010 at 5:31 PM

It’s great to see this azzhat retire from the US Senate. He is NOT like his father, who had the seat before him. Good to see that a republican will have taken it over from this party – line voting numbnuts

UNREPENTANT CONSERVATIVE CAPITOLIST on November 1, 2010 at 5:36 PM

he will challenge obama is hillary doesn’t

reliapundit on November 1, 2010 at 5:45 PM

Crry6 was on earlier, but I don’t think his heart was in it.

He knows the Tea-nami will be so high, the bridge he lives under will be wiped out.

portlandon on November 1, 2010 at 4:04 PM

She’s on the “personal income goes down” thread. Claims she’s better off now than 2 years ago. Hilarious stuff, that!

Del Dolemonte on November 1, 2010 at 5:47 PM

They maxed out America’s credit card and left the bill with the public

They took over a car company, promised the public would underwrite the private pension, gave part of the company to the union, and cut out the bond holders.

Now they are moving to dismantle health care, as it is now, and replace it with a mountain of spending, a new empowerment for the feds to seize bank accounts to pay the penalties due, death panels, and a juicy cut in medicare to pay for healthcare for illegals

They want a gay military, gay marriage, open borders, voting rights for illegals, marijuana for everyone and soft drinks for no one. They need to record every childs body fat index, and penalize schools which serve white bread at lunch.

They banned off shore drilling only for Americans, and want to tax every puff of smoke from every chimney.

They offer loans to small businesses which have no customers, and they offer mortgage rewrites no one qualifies for. They nationalized student loans, which are already destroying people because federally underwritten student loans cannot be discharged in bankruptcy, so the interest and penalties compound in jobless times, and the endless garnishment reaches into the social security check

Oh and they are returning to 40 percent estate taxes – we split half to the family, half to the government

And voter intimidation is ok, as long as you dress paramilitary, carry billy clubs, and belong to a minority

I call this more than bad timing

entagor on November 1, 2010 at 6:23 PM

Btw, where are the troll today?

Schadenfreude on November 1, 2010 at 4:01 PM

Curled up on the bedroom floor in the fetal position?

tom on November 1, 2010 at 6:27 PM

All Bayh would have to do is step back, (which he has already done), and let the lefty progressives get their hats handed to them… then step in as the voice of Democrat moderation, riding to the rescue to save the party.

Murf76 on November 1, 2010 at 5:18 PM

The progressives have a death grip on the democrat party, and there are precious few “moderates” left. They would need a teaparty-like movement to purge the leftist out of it, the way the teaparty is now purging the RINOs out of the GOP.

I simply don’t see that happening, they’ll either have to form a new party or accept electoral obscurity.

Rebar on November 1, 2010 at 6:30 PM

The progressives have a death grip on the democrat party, and there are precious few “moderates” left. They would need a teaparty-like movement to purge the leftist out of it, the way the teaparty is now purging the RINOs out of the GOP.

I simply don’t see that happening, they’ll either have to form a new party or accept electoral obscurity.

Rebar on November 1, 2010 at 6:30 PM

Hillary will recast herself as a moderate and challenge Bammie. Forget all that progressive nonsense, that was then.

slickwillie2001 on November 1, 2010 at 6:58 PM

So, half silly question, if the conservatives take over both houses and actually do look into how Obe traveled around to banned countries and he is successfully impeached for overstepping the Constitution: would “Plugs” be a better CIC?

rgranger on November 1, 2010 at 7:17 PM

The progressives have a death grip on the democrat party, and there are precious few “moderates” left. They would need a teaparty-like movement to purge the leftist out of it, the way the teaparty is now purging the RINOs out of the GOP.

I simply don’t see that happening, they’ll either have to form a new party or accept electoral obscurity.

Rebar on November 1, 2010 at 6:30 PM

The Democrat version of the tea party is called PUMA and there are now over 20 million of them. They will never vote for Democrats again. But Obama had control of the rules and bylaws committee. So the Democrat version of the tea party got pushed out of the party (when it was smaller) and silenced by the media. They switched to the GOP and let their numbers grow. They are now allied with the tea party movement. Republicans have Fox News which has much bigger viewership to counter the media smears. They were actually the ones who gave those ex-Democrats a voice and I don’t know if they knew what was going to happen. But that went a long way into pulling those disaffected Democrat voters to the GOP. Oh, and Palin. They LOOOOOVE Palin.

Many Republicans still refuse to admit they exist. You said that they’ll have to accept political obscurity. No. They are disassembling the Democrat Party as we speak from the inside out whether or not anyone believes they exist.

MrX on November 1, 2010 at 7:26 PM

Bath might try a primary challenge, though I personally don’t see it succeeding. He went along with healthcare, much of the spending, etc. though he did play the cya game by squawking about “fiscal responsibility” from time to time.

Spitballing here, but what about a post-midterm administration Appt. for him as a “move to the moderate center” for the Obama WH? Or even taking Biden’s place as VP for 2012?

cs89 on November 1, 2010 at 7:27 PM

Bayh, I mean. Darn phone spelling correction got me again!

cs89 on November 1, 2010 at 7:29 PM

I’m from Indiana, and I can tell you, Evan is done. He sacraficed himself on the alter of Obama and no matter what else he does now, he could not get elected to a school board in this state.

MikeA on November 1, 2010 at 8:26 PM

So, half silly question, if the conservatives take over both houses and actually do look into how Obe traveled around to banned countries and he is successfully impeached for overstepping the Constitution: would “Plugs” be a better CIC?

rgranger on November 1, 2010 at 7:17 PM

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Yes… Less competent (easier to stop his spending). Funnier at press conferences. Harder to take seriously, even for the Main Stream Morons. And as a bonus… we might be able to talk him into using the train instead of AF1 when he visit’s the middle east.

RalphyBoy on November 1, 2010 at 8:45 PM

Some election music:

Get Fired Up

MSimon on November 2, 2010 at 12:03 AM

And as a bonus… we might be able to talk him into using the train instead of AF1 when he visit’s the middle east.

+381

MSimon on November 2, 2010 at 12:04 AM

“Bayh is about as charismatic as Play Doh”.
Also the son of Burch so the last thing we need is one more dynastic family in office. Even if from the corn belt.

Col.John Wm. Reed on November 2, 2010 at 7:59 AM

Bayh notes that ObamaCare fulfilled a long-time “dream” of Democrats, but expanding (actually, adding) an entitlement in the middle of an economic disaster might not have been the greatest timing for Obama and Congress.

Can someone explain to me how a bad idea in a down economy suddenly becomes a good idea in a growing economy? If it’s a bad idea, it’s a BAD IDEA!

jnelchef on November 2, 2010 at 10:09 AM

I’ve been suspecting since he retired unexpectedly that Evan Bayh is gonna primary POTUS. Actually even before – seems like he’s been laying the groundwork to position himself as the anti-Obama for a pretty long time now.

leilani on November 1, 2010 at 4:11 PM

Bayh probably will primary Obama, as one of a dying breed of somewhat centrist Democrats. If Mitch Daniels also runs, could 2012 be an all-Hoosier Presidential election?

Steve Z on November 2, 2010 at 1:53 PM