Open thread: Rally to Support Hipster Irony

posted at 11:40 am on October 30, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

I don’t have much to say about today’s rally on the National Mall by Comedy Central’s hipsters, Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert, except to wish them well and hope they enjoy good weather for their road show.  I’m a fan of pretty much any kind of peaceful political demonstration regardless of whether I agree with the themes or not.  Better to have demonstrations than other kinds of political action, and besides, I’m all in favor of economy-boosting activity.  Good to know that Viacom has positioned itself well for this pox-on-all-houses-but-everyone-knows-which-one-in-particular event.

Allahpundit called this Irony-Stock on Twitter last night, which I think is perfectly descriptive, but Jake Tapper didn’t think it was clever enough.  How about LOLapalooza?  Basically, this is a celebration of political laziness masquerading as ironic detachment, which is something generations have enjoyed in their early adulthood without making it an industry.  Instead of having making actual, serious, and developed political arguments, it’s much easier to make fun of those who do on both sides of the political divide and pretend that one is above it all.  Should be lots of fun, vapid entertainment, and entirely meaningless, sort of like a Michael Bay movie.

The Washington Post will have a live-stream of the rally at this page.  If I find a widget for this, I’ll update the post.

Update (AP): Here’s an embeddable live feed. Jim Treacher’s calling it the Rally to Reassure Ourselves That We’re Not the Ones Who F***ed Everything Up.

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Blake on October 30, 2010 at 2:54 PM

Other than a brief visit by Ozzy Osbourne, nope, it’s been boring.

Cindy Munford on October 30, 2010 at 2:56 PM

Yes Mr. Liebowicz, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. You’ll see it more clearly this week.

50sGuy on October 30, 2010 at 2:56 PM

Tony Bennetts there? That old communist?

sandee on October 30, 2010 at 2:57 PM

I’ve missed 90% – was it worth it?

Or was it about as good as the congressional hearing?

tru2tx on October 30, 2010 at 2:57 PM

Wait…this rally has been longer than a half hour. How many attendees haven’t left?

MadisonConservative on October 30, 2010 at 2:57 PM

Hey, they didn’t thank AC’s shirt for appearing!

DaSaintFan on October 30, 2010 at 2:57 PM

I’ve missed 90% – was it worth it?

Or was it about as good as the congressional hearing?

tru2tx on October 30, 2010 at 2:57 PM

only if you enjoy having nightmares for months…..God make it get out of my head

unseen on October 30, 2010 at 2:58 PM

Suddenly, I am reminded to call the dentist for that root canal.

stenwin77 on October 30, 2010 at 2:58 PM

Today has been a perfect example of the old adage: Give someone enough rope….
Tuesday’s going to be great!

kingsjester on October 30, 2010 at 2:59 PM

I want the 3 hours of my weekend back.

scrubjay on October 30, 2010 at 2:59 PM

Well, I’ve just been enjoying the sanity of the USAF flying jets over my house at the Cocoa Beach air show!

FLKraKa on October 30, 2010 at 2:59 PM

Out running errands. Has it gotten any less boring?

Blake on October 30, 2010 at 2:54 PM

Blake: Boring as it was when you went out!:)

canopfor on October 30, 2010 at 2:59 PM

It’s over!
It’s Over!
It’s OVER!
It’s OVER!
Thank GOD! It’s finally OVER!

Roll Credits. . . . .

Skandia Recluse on October 30, 2010 at 3:00 PM

The Far Right of course being anything to the right of Arlen Specter.

ddrintn on October 30, 2010 at 2:05 P

More like anything to the right of James Carville…

Missy on October 30, 2010 at 3:00 PM

Pretty awful show, Jon and Stephen. Seriously. I was expecting much better. I’m not sure why I was expecting much better, but I was.

Although, admittedly, I was quite taken aback by their prideful jingoism. I half expected a flag burning at some point during the show. So there’s that.

FlatFoot on October 30, 2010 at 3:00 PM

Ok. Whatever. I’m off to work out at the gym for two hours before I buy way the hell too much Halloween candy for tomorrow.

I guess you had to be there to understand what the hell that was all about.

BrideOfRove on October 30, 2010 at 3:01 PM

(pointing at self with both thumbs)

Nonplussed. The Crazy Train/Peace Train duel was amusing.

For about a minute.

radioboyatl on October 30, 2010 at 3:01 PM

Today has been a perfect example of the old adage: Give someone enough rope….
Tuesday’s going to be great!

kingsjester on October 30, 2010 at 2:59 PM

kingsjester:Tee-hee,yup,ACME ROPE COMPANY comes to mind!:)

canopfor on October 30, 2010 at 3:02 PM

Lewis Black could have saved this entire thing.

BrideOfRove on October 30, 2010 at 3:03 PM

I’ve been out running errands so I turned it on just in time to see the bit involving Peter Pan, remote controls, and a giant puppet. Wow was that cringe inducing. I haven’t seen live comedy bomb this badly since the last ten years of SNL. I turned the channel to watch college football right before Jon Stewart launched into what I figured would be a sanctimonious closing.

rsrobinson on October 30, 2010 at 3:03 PM

Blake: Boring as it was when you went out!:)

canopfor on October 30, 2010 at 2:59 PM

not so it increased in magnitude

unseen on October 30, 2010 at 3:03 PM

Missed most of it — did it meet the left’s expectation of changing the entire dynamic of Tuesday?

rightheaded on October 30, 2010 at 3:03 PM

Oh Wait!
There is reaction from the cspan audience!

What were those telephone numbers again?

Skandia Recluse on October 30, 2010 at 3:03 PM

Sign: Genocide to stop world hunger.

Ironic or truth?

tru2tx on October 30, 2010 at 3:03 PM

This was the “Remember America, all us cool people are on the Left, and if you’re not careful, we’re not gonna think you’re cool” rally.

IronDioPriest on October 30, 2010 at 3:03 PM

Lewis Black could have saved this entire thing.

BrideOfRove on October 30, 2010 at 3:03 PM

nothing could have saved this thing

unseen on October 30, 2010 at 3:04 PM

I want to see interviews with people as they leave.

Less on October 30, 2010 at 3:04 PM

800+ comments…must be important… ;)
Honestly I had no idea this rally was happening today.

Bee on October 30, 2010 at 3:05 PM

They showed a clip on TV a while back and – lo and behold – there was some creepy giant puppet! What the heck was THAT all about?

Logic on October 30, 2010 at 3:05 PM

FOTFL.. the first caller that C-Span has right afterwards… “Blamed all Republicans and Christians for their antics”.

Yeah, that message got out real well, didn’t it, Jon?

DaSaintFan on October 30, 2010 at 3:05 PM

just goes to show if you have nothing to say it doesn’t matter how many people show up to hear it

unseen on October 30, 2010 at 3:05 PM

Lewis Black could have saved this entire thing.

BrideOfRove on October 30, 2010 at 3:03 PM

nothing could have saved this thing

unseen on October 30, 2010 at 3:04 PM

OK. You’re right about that. I was just hoping he would show up and make it not suck as much.

BrideOfRove on October 30, 2010 at 3:06 PM

They showed a clip on TV a while back and – lo and behold – there was some creepy giant puppet! What the heck was THAT all about?

Logic on October 30, 2010 at 3:05 PM

you really don’t want to know

unseen on October 30, 2010 at 3:07 PM

Oh, the comments !! OY ! a Repub just changed to a Dem !
Good Lord !!

pambi on October 30, 2010 at 3:07 PM

Did Colbert teabag Stewart at the finale?

SurferDoc on October 30, 2010 at 3:07 PM

Did they have Cat Stevens perform??????????????

Blake on October 30, 2010 at 3:07 PM

“Think For Yourself” says the sign at a rally full of arrogant monomind phonies.

Django on October 30, 2010 at 3:08 PM

Posting from a commenter on Jonah Goldberg’s (NRO) Twitter feed. I thought it was hilarious.

When is he going to say: “And if we all do our best, try our hardest and work together, we can make this the best yearbook ever!”

Rational Thought on October 30, 2010 at 3:08 PM

This rally made me yearn for the days of truly great variety entertainment like Shields & Yarnell.

It was that good.

Missy on October 30, 2010 at 3:09 PM

Cat Stevens left a toner cartridge backstage.

SurferDoc on October 30, 2010 at 3:09 PM

OK. You’re right about that. I was just hoping he would show up and make it not suck as much.

BrideOfRove on October 30, 2010 at 3:06 PM

yeah and i was hoping they would find something in Al Capone’s vault. We don’t get what we want sometimes

unseen on October 30, 2010 at 3:09 PM

Oh, the comments !! OY ! a Repub just changed to a Dem !
Good Lord !!

pambi on October 30, 2010 at 3:07 PM

Yeah, that was real convincing, ha, ha.

Django on October 30, 2010 at 3:09 PM

800+ comments…must be important… ;)
Honestly I had no idea this rally was happening today.

Bee on October 30, 2010 at 3:05 PM

consider yourselve the luckiest person on earth then

unseen on October 30, 2010 at 3:10 PM

Irony reaches new heights as Comedy Central is going to “strictly prohibit filming” of the Rally to Restore Sanity/March to Keep Fear Alive.

There’s the real irony: While this rally seeks to make fun of Tea Party activists who advocate for freedom, Comedy Central is looking to tightly control the event as much as possible. Lame.
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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f08_1288430222&c=1

canopfor on October 30, 2010 at 3:10 PM

“Think For Yourself” says the sign at a rally full of arrogant monomind phonies.

Django on October 30, 2010 at 3:08 PM

My thought exactly. “Think for Yourself, but Let

Somebody Else Drive”

OkieDoc on October 30, 2010 at 3:11 PM

This rally made me yearn for the days of truly great variety entertainment like Shields & Yarnell.

It was that good.

Missy on October 30, 2010 at 3:09 PM

LOL

tru2tx on October 30, 2010 at 3:11 PM

i can not wait to see how the MSM spins this to try to save it. they were sho hoping this would be the game changer. Well at least I know how the staff at MSNBC will feel on tues night. the pain was unimaginable. It was really bad.

unseen on October 30, 2010 at 3:12 PM

Did they have Cat Stevens perform??????????????

Blake on October 30, 2010 at 3:07 PM

Blake: Yes for about a minute or so,then Colbert/Stewart
went into a so-called comedy act!:)

canopfor on October 30, 2010 at 3:12 PM

Al Qaida really showed Stewart how irony is done.

ha ha haha ha ha ha!

MayBee on October 30, 2010 at 3:12 PM

Missed most of it — did it meet the left’s expectation of changing the entire dynamic of Tuesday?

rightheaded on October 30, 2010 at 3:03 PM

yeap it changed it from a cat 4 to a cat 5 wave. I think the VT senate race is a toss up after this

unseen on October 30, 2010 at 3:14 PM

Hey, a caller’s caling it childish ! LOL
Remarks on the ‘whiteness’ of the crowd !!
SNORT

pambi on October 30, 2010 at 3:15 PM

The most shocking thing I’ve heard in this entire “rally” was John Stewart saying something about his singing sounding better in rehearsal.

They REHEARSED this?

Less on October 30, 2010 at 2:31 PM

Of course it was rehearsed. Comedy Channel staff writers wrote every word, just as they write every word out of Stewart’s mouth on his show. The lefties think he’s the most brillilantest thing before Bammie, but they are both teleprompter readers.

slickwillie2001 on October 30, 2010 at 3:16 PM

I was hoping to catch a glimpse during my break at work,but it over. Already? I don’t think that really constitutes a “rally”. More like an Abbot and Costello act. No, wait, Abbot and Costello were actually funny.

vcferlita on October 30, 2010 at 3:17 PM

Cat Stevens left a toner cartridge backstage.

SurferDoc on October 30, 2010 at 3:09 PM

Now that’s funny.

MaxMBJ on October 30, 2010 at 3:18 PM

i can not wait to see how the MSM spins this to try to save it.

unseen on October 30, 2010 at 3:12 PM

unseen: My take,is that they sure had an axe to grind with
the MSM,there Team players,and a lot of pot shots
at the Obama Administration!!:)

canopfor on October 30, 2010 at 3:18 PM

Try the veal.

SurferDoc on October 30, 2010 at 3:19 PM

My sister went to this thing . Any attendance numbers reported yet?

UncleFodder on October 30, 2010 at 3:20 PM

I have been out with members of our church doing community service work in our neighborhoods. What did I miss?

lukespapa on October 30, 2010 at 3:20 PM

Some good things to come out of this mess:
.
1) Gone is the ability of the Left to comment on the whiteness of tea partiers and Beckians
.
2) Gone is the ability of the Left to mock patriotism
.
3) Gone is possibility that anyone can think Jon Stewart has a courageous, satiric bone in his body
.
4) Gone is any hope of a Dem revival before Tuesday
.
All in all, a great day to be a conservative.

MaxMBJ on October 30, 2010 at 3:21 PM

Blake: Boring as it was when you went out!:)

canopfor on October 30, 2010 at 2:59 PM
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not so it increased in magnitude

unseen on October 30, 2010 at 3:03 PM

unseen: True dat:)

canopfor on October 30, 2010 at 3:22 PM

unseen: My take,is that they sure had an axe to grind with
the MSM,there Team players,and a lot of pot shots
at the Obama Administration!!:)

canopfor on October 30, 2010 at 3:18 PM

my take is they mention the turnout and never ever never ever run any clip on this event and then quickly “forget” or atleast try to “forget” this ever happened

unseen on October 30, 2010 at 3:22 PM

One more comment: Why the hell didn’t they pitch that song Colbert and Stewart sang in a key that wasn’t between Jon’s range? You know, this is the type of thing they could have worked out in practice.

MaxMBJ on October 30, 2010 at 3:23 PM

90% of the people calling in to comment are incredibly brain dead. Yikes.

Django on October 30, 2010 at 3:23 PM

All in all, a great day to be a conservative.

MaxMBJ on October 30, 2010 at 3:21 PM

unless you made the mistake like I did and actually watched this thing. the Fonz has nothing on jon Steward. Decades from now when something goes too far or to out there people will be saying its “doing a rally”

unseen on October 30, 2010 at 3:24 PM

I’m going to be honest. when I’m getting on an airplane and I see a leftist comdian I get scared and have thoughts of the 10/20 rally. And I wonder should I risk getting onboard?

unseen on October 30, 2010 at 3:25 PM

*10/30 rally. I’m still a bit shellshock

unseen on October 30, 2010 at 3:26 PM

I was expecting that this rally was going to be a series of speakers who would have been rallying the left to argue with neighbors, get in their face and to go out and vote as many times as necessary to insure a socialist victory. Instead it ended with a whimper of sophomoric philosophizing. At the risk of getting cocky I don’t think that intellectually we have that much to be worried about. They have finally exposed how vapid and banal they really are.

scrubjay on October 30, 2010 at 3:26 PM

All in all, a great day to be a conservative.

MaxMBJ on October 30, 2010 at 3:21 PM

MaxMBJ:Well said sir!!

canopfor on October 30, 2010 at 3:27 PM

OT Bambi seems to be almost boo’d off the stage in CT.

katy the mean old lady on October 30, 2010 at 3:28 PM

OT, but Teh One is getting heckled really, really bad in CT right now. LOL

IrishEi on October 30, 2010 at 3:28 PM

It’s a festive atmosphere, with signs and stickers proclaiming “relax,” “chill out” and “vote sanity.”***

canopfor on October 30, 2010 at 1:37 PM

Of course it’s a festive atmosphere.We are watching liberals cheer on their new Messiah now that reality has brought the good ship Obama down to earth.

This could not have worked out better today.Nothing exemplifies the lack of leadership and direction coming from the democratic party today than watching the biggest,most energetic gathering they have put together this election cycle, come from a comedian rallying the Beer Pong sector.
Not one single intelligent or coherent solution to what is facing Americans today came from this gathering in DC that was whiter than an ABBA concert.
You would be hard pressed to find a better example of the idiotic irony that symbolizes the progressives here than having a Hamas supporter like Cat Stevens singing “Peace Train”.
Why not just go the full Monty and invite Ahmadinejad to come and sing Lennon’s “Give Peace a Chance.”

Buck Up liberals!!!!!

In two short years you have gone from exalting Obama as a modern day Ghandi/FDR,ushering in peace and prosperity….to praising and following a comedian that needs 20 writers just to put together a 30 minute show.

How Progressive!!!!

Baxter Greene on October 30, 2010 at 3:29 PM

*10/30 rally. I’m still a bit shellshock

unseen on October 30, 2010 at 3:26 PM

unseen:Get back in your trench,buck up,and man your
commenting battle-station!(Kidding):)

canopfor on October 30, 2010 at 3:29 PM

Colbert proved he is the least funny person now working.

SurferDoc on October 30, 2010 at 3:30 PM

katy the mean old lady on October 30, 2010 at 3:28 PM

REALLY ? where to watch ?
Thought CSPAN said they’d cover it, but they’re still taking calls.

pambi on October 30, 2010 at 3:30 PM

My sister went to this thing . Any attendance numbers reported yet?

UncleFodder on October 30, 2010 at 3:20 PM

I heard 150,000 from the event organizers.

IrishEi on October 30, 2010 at 3:30 PM

Eh, been watching football and didn’t bother with this nonsense, but i flipped over to Fox during a commercial and they had an interview with some chick who said she just couldn’t understand why everybody in America was so crazy because, you know, Barack Obama was popular everywhere in the world and the Tea Partiers were just going crazy on him here and like she hopes this rally will restore some sanity you know.

So there you have it, if you don’t love Barack Obama you’re just, like, crazy, and you’re responsible for everything that’s wrong in the world because you don’t love Obama.

clearbluesky on October 30, 2010 at 3:30 PM

Ooooooooooooooooo, hecklers !!
Found it on FNC.. yikes.

pambi on October 30, 2010 at 3:30 PM

Yusuf Inkjet?

SurferDoc on October 30, 2010 at 3:31 PM

My sister went to this thing . Any attendance numbers reported yet?

UncleFodder on October 30, 2010 at 3:20 PM

Johnson at LGF estimates the crowd to be in the billions….

Baxter Greene on October 30, 2010 at 3:32 PM

Oh, and i saw they had Cat Stevens, apparently he managed to restrain himself from calling for anyone’s death in the name of Allah, so there’s that.

clearbluesky on October 30, 2010 at 3:32 PM

pambi on October 30, 2010 at 3:30 PM

Fox, they’ll go back to it shortly. He isALL wee wee’d up.

katy the mean old lady on October 30, 2010 at 3:32 PM

Cat Stevens left a toner cartridge backstage.

SurferDoc on October 30, 2010 at 3:09 PM

Can’t be any bigger than the bomb that went off on the front of the stage…

jon1979 on October 30, 2010 at 3:33 PM

It’s a festive atmosphere, with signs and stickers proclaiming “relax,” “chill out” and “vote sanity.”***

canopfor on October 30, 2010 at 1:37 PM
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How Progressive!!!!

Baxter Greene on October 30, 2010 at 3:29 PM

Baxter Greene:Got to laugh,had to go back to my 1:37PM
posting,and Ièm thinking did I say that,
forgot,it was in the link!!:)

canopfor on October 30, 2010 at 3:36 PM

Ooooooooooooooooo, hecklers !!
Found it on FNC.. yikes.

pambi on October 30, 2010 at 3:30 PM

if the people at the rally were nto too stoned they would have heckled Jon and colbert off the freaking stage. god I nheed to take a shower I feel unclean still from watching that steaming pile of crap

unseen on October 30, 2010 at 3:36 PM

150,000 Turn Out for Rally to Lame Restore Sanity & Socialism Protest (Crowd Shots) …Update: HuffPo Buses Stuck in Traffic
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http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/10/rally-to-restore-socialism-kicks-off-in-dc/

canopfor on October 30, 2010 at 3:37 PM

Imagine. “Comedy” writers spent time on this debacle.

SurferDoc on October 30, 2010 at 3:38 PM

My sister went to this thing . Any attendance numbers reported yet?

UncleFodder on October 30, 2010 at 3:20 PM

No but a friend of mine is there and he spoke to a Parks Department employee. She said that the crowd is much bigger than the Beck rally. Also, the people are better looking and cleaner.

crr6 on October 30, 2010 at 3:38 PM

I was right to switch to college football. A 14-point loss by the Vols was less painful.

ladyingray on October 30, 2010 at 3:39 PM

This could not have worked out better today.Nothing exemplifies the lack of leadership and direction coming from the democratic party today than watching the biggest,most energetic gathering they have put together this election cycle, come from a comedian rallying the Beer Pong sector.

How Progressive!!!!

Baxter Greene on October 30, 2010 at 3:29 PM

Baxter Greene: Thats the impression that I got,this was more
of slamming the Obama Administration and MSM,
and the odd pot shots at the RightSphere!!:)

canopfor on October 30, 2010 at 3:40 PM

90% of the people calling in to comment are incredibly brain dead. Yikes.

Django on October 30, 2010 at 3:23 PM

And, -the ever-present caller calling in on the ‘Republican’ line, saying “after seeing this I am changing my vote to democratic.” It’s as reliable as the sunrise.

slickwillie2001 on October 30, 2010 at 3:40 PM

Jane Goodall will do a documentary on this.

SurferDoc on October 30, 2010 at 3:40 PM

I liked Stewart’s closing monologue. I like that in all that other stuff, he said that calling the tea party people racist was part of the problem.

It’s funny that something that was pretty much an event by two media figures, and their fans, mainly implicated the “24-hour media scare machine” (although Stewart moderated that criticism, too).

But I find irony in this, characterization. It’s the same established media that conservatives have long complained has shut them out, to which the shushers on the left have calmly explained “That’s because nobody agrees with you”, and this rally is response to the volume level of conservatives that feel that they are shut out by “Mainstream Media”. It’s the same media that drives the government response as the solution to all these safety issues–which in a way, Stewart is also claiming is overblown. It’s in some ways–although in no sense aware–a criticism against the Dateline-NBC, everything’s-a-crisis mentality that has seen the build up of government solutions to address them.

So in a sense it’s a many-faceted Special Pleading: pumping crisis is okay when it results in big government is okay, when you fear that the government is in a “big government” crisis, it’s not; When the right feels it’s shut out of the media that’s explainable by the reasoned process of reporting, when they see something that “doesn’t represent them” its a problem. And because it addressed our time as some sort of “break down”, it must be the case that radicals shutting down San Fransisco in the 60s, and rioting at the Democratic convention set to nominate one of the most radical candidates any party has run for president (apparently) was not, but conservatives that want to shout over the media, again is a problem.

It’s like I find with a lot of liberal calls for “civility”. I agree quite a bit with you. And despite Strawman Colbert (who I enjoy nonetheless), I enjoyed quite a bit of the rally.

But we don’t agree on what we agree on.

Axeman on October 30, 2010 at 3:40 PM

How fitting, Stalin was a big proponent of painting political foes as insane.

I guess if you watch the clowns instead of doing history homework, these things happen.

reaganaut on October 30, 2010 at 3:41 PM

Proof positive that disaster follows Democrats around wherever they go!!

landlines on October 30, 2010 at 3:42 PM

Also, the people are better looking and cleaner.

Vacuous troll is vacuous.

reaganaut on October 30, 2010 at 3:43 PM

crr6 on October 30, 2010 at 3:38 PM

That’s funny.

Cindy Munford on October 30, 2010 at 3:44 PM

Baxter Greene:Got to laugh,had to go back to my 1:37PM
posting,and Ièm thinking did I say that,
forgot,it was in the link!!:)

canopfor on October 30, 2010 at 3:36 PM

That was a great link of yours to show just how pathetic and ignorant the democratic party has become in these very serious times.

I would love nothing more than to have Obama come out these last few days before the mid-terms and announce:

“come on..let’s party….be festive….”relax”….”chill”…
…..it’s all good …quit giving into fear…..

………..”Let’s continue on the smashing success of my first two years by voting democrat for more of the same!!!!”

Absolutely stuck on stupid.

Baxter Greene on October 30, 2010 at 3:45 PM

I’m glad they had the rally. It took all of those stupid young adults to DC for a day of partying when they could have otherwise been out walking precincts and doing something constructive to elect Dems. It was a nice distraction for them.

Plus, I liked how they showed that they hate Christianity by having “Father Guido” do the invocation. BTW, did you notice how by far the biggest cheer was for Jews when Father Guido spoke? I guess John Stewart Leibowitz’s sense of humor really connects more with his own secular Jewish kind. No big surprise.

mydh12 on October 30, 2010 at 3:45 PM

So did Oprah and Arriana get their money’s worth for the buses they provided…was it a million people?

CCRWM on October 30, 2010 at 3:51 PM

Well, I think this sums up the rally in a nutshell.
One site where I went was sure to have comments from the crowd.
Their biggest issue?
Too many guys trying to pick up too few chicks.

jjshaka on October 30, 2010 at 3:53 PM

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