Meek: Yes, I discussed withdrawing with Clinton

posted at 8:40 am on October 29, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Via the Daily Caller, MSNBC’s Morning Joe provides a preview of Kendrick Meek’s next four days.  Time’s Mark Halperin grills Meek about whether he ever negotiated an exit from the Senate race in Florida as Bill Clinton claimed or not.  Answer: kinda-sorta.  Meek will only say that he and Clinton discussed the rumor, but that’s probably bad enough:

“We talked about the rumor that I was going to drop out of the race, and as you know, anyone that knows President Clinton, he loves to talk about all options and what could happen, what will happen and I told him, you know, I’m not going to do it, and that’s just the bottom line.”

Note well what Meek said yesterday in response to the Crist bombshell:

“The article is not true. Kendrick Meek was never dropping out of this race, is never dropping out of this race, and will never drop out of this race. Kendrick Meek will always stand up for the middle class and will not leave Floridians a choice between two lifelong conservative Republicans who only stand with the special interests. Kendrick is the Democratic nominee so if anyone should drop out, it’s Charlie Crist.”

This is what we now call Clintonian parsing.  It seems that the rumors of Clinton discussing the withdrawal option with Meek are true.  Meek’s “not true” related only to his willingness to go along with the plan, at least now that the plan has been exposed.  What is true is that he and Clinton had a discussion about it, an odd conversation for a former President to have with a major nominee of his own party, and an odd conversation for that nominee to countenance.

What was the actual nature of that conversation?  We have two opposing versions of it, and even if the truth is somewhere in between, Meek’s credibility is seriously damaged.   That may not be good news for Marco Rubio, either; if Democrats decide that Meek isn’t in it to win it, his current status notwithstanding, they may bolt for Crist and convince a few centrist Republican voters that he could actually win this race.  Rubio appears to have enough of a lead to withstand that, and (as Rubio pointed out yesterday) a third of the vote has probably already been cast, but this race could be a little closer than anyone thought.


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and Clinton also never offered a job to Joe Sestak for getting out of the PA senate race…they merely discussed “the rumor” of Joe leaving the race and “the rumor” of him getting a job in the administration.

I smell a rat, and my opinion of Clinton has been increasing in the last 2 years. It is now going back down several notches.

ted c on October 29, 2010 at 8:44 AM

He and Clinton were discussing early withdrawal. I’ll bet Billy-Boy’s mind wasn’t anywhere near politics at that moment.

Electus Interruptus

AubieJon on October 29, 2010 at 8:44 AM

Tuesday cannot come fast enough.

milwife88 on October 29, 2010 at 8:45 AM

Meeks hasn’t appreciated “loose lips sink ships” enough to keep his trap shut. Never put Bill Clinton in a hard place unless you’re a self destructive Democrat, begging to be expunged from view.

maverick muse on October 29, 2010 at 8:45 AM

I totally don’t get how this damages Meek at all. He said on the show that Clinton loves to talk politics, and that’s quite true. It’s reasonable to guess that the rumor came up. And it’s equally reasonable to guess that Meek said he’d thought about it.

But clearly he decided “No.”

This is what I call a chattering class story. As Meeks said today, people have already voted for him in early ballots.

This is a desperate shot in the dark for Crist. And he’s lost. I fail to understand why everyone is even interested in this story or why they think it’s such a biggee.

AnninCA on October 29, 2010 at 8:46 AM

This is what we now call Clintonian parsing. It seems that the rumors of Clinton discussing the withdrawal option with Meek are true. Meek’s “not true” related only to his willingness to go along with the plan, at least now that the plan has been exposed. What is true is that he and Clinton had a discussion about it, an odd conversation for a former President to have with a major nominee of his own party, and an odd conversation for that nominee to countenance.

…but Ed, that doesn’t contradict his statement that he was never dropping out.

MadisonConservative on October 29, 2010 at 8:46 AM

Monica Lewinsky (and many others) also discussed withdrawing with Clenis. I wish he’d withdraw himself from politics and slither off somewhere.

JammieWearingFool on October 29, 2010 at 8:46 AM

ted c on October 29, 2010 at 8:44 AM

sestak, now meek…it reeks indeed

cmsinaz on October 29, 2010 at 8:47 AM

Clinton apparently made 11 appearances for Meeks. That’s enough to set aside any notion that he wasn’t supportive, for goodness sakes.

AnninCA on October 29, 2010 at 8:47 AM

Kick both their butts to the curb, Rubio. Meeks and Crist can then open a car wash or something.

Bishop on October 29, 2010 at 8:47 AM

In fairness, the story wasn’t just that Meek considered dropping out. It was that he was preparing to actually drop out, with a jet revving up and the endorsement date being negotiated.

There’s quite a difference between than and discussing the possibility. So his “that article isn’t true, he was never dropping out” response was pretty fair.

amerpundit on October 29, 2010 at 8:48 AM

Look, Florida–you guys are getting jerked around big time. Charlie Crist is doing every bit of caterwauling and twisting and turning that he can before he hits the pool from his high dive. You guys are only seen as a fickle, undecided proportion of voters that could be duped into thinking that he could ever stick to a singular position on anything and now you have a former president, and a grandiose liar, trying to have a viable and duly selected Democrat to drop out of the race so that Demo-lite OoompaLoompa might parse together enough votes to edge Marco Rubio.

Florida, you have a clear choice to make next Tuesday. It is time you send Charlie out for a round of golf with his best hug buddy and call it a day.

Vote Marco Rubio for Senate.

ted c on October 29, 2010 at 8:48 AM

AnninCA on October 29, 2010 at 8:46 AM

due to slick willie’s involvement in this scenario more than once during this entire campaign season…

cmsinaz on October 29, 2010 at 8:48 AM

What smells to me is some notion from moderate GOPers that Crist has a chance in heck to pull this out. *haha

AnninCA on October 29, 2010 at 8:48 AM

ted c on October 29, 2010 at 8:44 AM

The Sestak rumor came from Sestak being contacted by the current administration that later paid the perjurer Clinton to fill in with a lie.

The latest from Bill, “I had to let him say what he had to say to me. It would be wrong for me to discuss that with you.”–Clinton’s response

maverick muse on October 29, 2010 at 8:48 AM

What was the actual nature of that conversation?

No intelligent person would ever have a conversation with Clinton without several unbiased witnesses and an entire legal team negotiating the accepted meaning of each word.

Disturb the Universe on October 29, 2010 at 8:49 AM

I think he flatly denied talking to billy jeff about that this morning on F&F

rightside on October 29, 2010 at 8:49 AM

Go Rubio!

publiuspen on October 29, 2010 at 8:50 AM

This story reminds me why people are also fed up with the press. As if there aren’t enough real stories out there?

Lordy.

AnninCA on October 29, 2010 at 8:50 AM

Meeks and Crist can then open a car wash or something.

Bishop on October 29, 2010 at 8:47 AM

Ew, like this.

maverick muse on October 29, 2010 at 8:51 AM

With all the early voting and absentees, Crist would have to get well over 50% of the election day votes to win. No way in hell that happens. He’ll lose some Republicans and Indies once he’s seen as the de facto Dem nominee, and lots of blacks will either still vote for Meek or stay at home now.

BuzzCrutcher on October 29, 2010 at 8:51 AM

Culture of corruption.

obladioblada on October 29, 2010 at 8:51 AM

That may not be good news for Marco Rubio….

Et tu, Ed? Et tu?

I’ve watched this morning the most repulsive liberals assembled on MSNBC giving obituaries for the likes of Harry Reid, and lamenting the tsunami headed to shore, and you’re worried about the most articulate Conservative candidate who has not had one mis-step his entire campaign as opposed to almost every other candidate?

Marcus on October 29, 2010 at 8:52 AM

Those Village Idiots, Meeks and Orangeman, should hire a publicist to write a script that doesn’t make them look like friggin morons. I am kidding, nothing can help these tools.

David in ATL on October 29, 2010 at 8:53 AM

Meeks hasn’t a clue. You don’t EVER cross Bill Clinton, even to parse words. Never drag Willy into a fight, especially when he says he’s on your side, looking out for your best interests.

maverick muse on October 29, 2010 at 8:53 AM

“…and my opinion of Clinton has been increasing in the last 2 years. It is now going back down several notches.

ted c on October 29, 2010 at 8:44 AM”

Don’t let Billy Boy bamboozle you. He is every bit the scumbag he has always been.

Eichendorff on October 29, 2010 at 8:53 AM

The Demo brand is so tarnished this year that they’d rather go with a Shinola colored white boy than with a traditional base supporter, a black. Why do blacks continue this contenance with the Dems?

hip shot on October 29, 2010 at 8:54 AM

Why in hell was Crist ever a Republican to begin with, if he’s willing to caucus with a far left Democratic party?

rbj on October 29, 2010 at 8:54 AM

why is it that where there are lies and shady stories that Bill Clinton is nearby?

If someone “just happened” to be nearby the scene of several fires, would it be wise to investigate them for arson? It would certainly be unwise to ignore their presence at the time of the fires.

IMO, plan A is to get Meek to drop out, plan B is to throw the election into “close enough” finish to make it questionable and to consider actual Meek votes as hanging chads counted for Rubio. It’s a priori Algore 2000 all over again. The mechanisms are in place, the doubt is being cast and all they have to do is to make this such a mess that rubios total count does not exceed the margin of error and voila’! hello senator crist.

ted c on October 29, 2010 at 8:54 AM

Marcus on October 29, 2010 at 8:52 AM

Like a fly, he’s drawn to slaughter carrying pestilence.

maverick muse on October 29, 2010 at 8:55 AM

Meeks hasn’t a clue. You don’t EVER cross Bill Clinton, even to parse words. Never drag Willy into a fight, especially when he says he’s on your side, looking out for your best interests.

maverick muse on October 29, 2010 at 8:53 AM

I don’t think he crossed Clinton at all. If anything, I would say someone asked Bill how Meeks felt about that idea, he relayed the information, gossip got passed along to Crist, Crist lied and said that there was a real deal, the press decided to pile on, and voila….here we are.

It’s all silly to me. Crist is just stirring the pot.

AnninCA on October 29, 2010 at 8:55 AM

to consider actual Meek votes as hanging chads counted for Rubio Crist.

FIFM

ted c on October 29, 2010 at 8:55 AM

rbj on October 29, 2010 at 8:54 AM

That “smear” Meeks managed, referencing Crist another of those “conservative Republicans” makes everyone laugh at Meeks, the dumbbell.

maverick muse on October 29, 2010 at 8:56 AM

Ya know, it has dawned on me that in my lifetime (57 years old) my country has mostly produced pathetic leaders. Johnson, Nixon, Carter, Clinton, and now Obama. The only real true leader I have had in my lifetime is Ronald Reagan.

And to think, the GOP establishment wanted little to do with Reagan and the leftist wanted Reagan’s head on a platter. It’s no wonder why I have so little faith in government. The truly amazing accomplishments have all come from the private sector.

Keemo on October 29, 2010 at 8:57 AM

Why in hell was Crist ever a Republican to begin with, if he’s willing to caucus with a far left Democratic party?

rbj on October 29, 2010 at 8:54 AM

Ask tokyo Rove.

the_nile on October 29, 2010 at 8:58 AM

I don’t think he crossed Clinton at all.

Meeks did not take Clinton’s advice.

The only thing missing from the story is the horse’s head.

maverick muse on October 29, 2010 at 8:58 AM

Crist has sold his soul to the White House and to Clinton. No wonder they’re pulling out the stops for him. He went up there and shot a pron video on Kevin Jennings desk as proof that he’d do the WH’s bidding. The only way that both the first and second black presidents are throwing a black guy under the bus is that they have fullup blackmail material on charlie crist.

ted c on October 29, 2010 at 8:58 AM

re:

I don’t think he crossed Clinton at all.

maverick muse on October 29, 2010 at 8:58 AM

If Crist is an Independent who used to be a Republican and is willing to caucus with the lefty Democrats just to win, why would anyone believe that a real Democrat like West Virginia’s Manchin would ever buck the Democrats at all once he has won?

myrenovations on October 29, 2010 at 8:58 AM

ted c on October 29, 2010 at 8:58 AM

nailed it

maverick muse on October 29, 2010 at 8:59 AM

Vote Marco Rubio for Senate.

ted c on October 29, 2010 at 8:48 AM

Well, duh! What do I look like? AnninCa?

Lanceman on October 29, 2010 at 8:59 AM

Well, the CNN story suggests that Clinton didn’t talk to the WH.

AnninCA on October 29, 2010 at 9:00 AM

If Florida elects Crist, screw’em. You can’t fix stupid. It’s only a matter of time before the retiring dipwad liberals from the northeast would screw things up down there. We’ll see if the screwing up is complete on Tuesday.

Sugar Land on October 29, 2010 at 9:00 AM

Lanceman on October 29, 2010 at 8:59 AM

I don’t know why you say that. I like Rubio.

AnninCA on October 29, 2010 at 9:01 AM

Well, duh! What do I look like? AnninCa?

Lanceman on October 29, 2010 at 8:59 AM

you dont want me to answer that…../

ted c on October 29, 2010 at 9:01 AM

Well, the CNN story suggests that Clinton didn’t talk to the WH.

AnninCA on October 29, 2010 at 9:00 AM

Why wouldn’t he?

the_nile on October 29, 2010 at 9:02 AM

This story reminds me why people are also fed up with the press. As if there aren’t enough real stories out there?

Lordy.

AnninCA on October 29, 2010 at 8:50 AM

It’s better they cover this than another unflattering segment about Paladino or O’Donnell, or maybe a big story about “ultra-conservative” Sharron Angle, Ken Buck, Pat Toomey, Joe Miller and John Raese, and their totally moderate, reliable, reasonable opponents.

forest on October 29, 2010 at 9:02 AM

If Florida elects Crist, screw’em. You can’t fix stupid. It’s only a matter of time before the retiring dipwad liberals from the northeast would screw things up down there. We’ll see if the screwing up is complete on Tuesday.

Sugar Land on October 29, 2010 at 9:00 AM

Hail Mary stuff here. Even his worst poll has him up by 8 points.

AnninCA on October 29, 2010 at 9:02 AM

Isn’t this a typical “have you stopped beating your wife yet” ploy?

OldEnglish on October 29, 2010 at 9:05 AM

Kendrick Meek and Dan Maes need to get together after this election and swap a few war stories.

BradSchwartze on October 29, 2010 at 9:05 AM

I don’t know why you say that. I like Rubio.

AnninCA on October 29, 2010 at 9:01 AM

Since we are unfamiliar with ‘picking on the concern troll’, I will now close the cash drawer at this point…

Lanceman on October 29, 2010 at 9:07 AM

Obviously it depends on what the word discussion means. /s

Basilsbest on October 29, 2010 at 9:08 AM

Whole lot of lying going on out there …

tarpon on October 29, 2010 at 9:08 AM

I smell a rat, and my opinion of Clinton has been increasing in the last 2 years.

ted c on October 29, 2010 at 8:44 AM

How was that possible, ted? You would have to completely forget about Monica, the blue dress, cigars and lying under oath. I was going to mention Shrillery, but she actually increases sympathy for Clenis.

Extrafishy on October 29, 2010 at 9:08 AM

That may not be good news for Marco Rubio, either; if Democrats decide that Meek isn’t in it to win it his current status notwithstanding, they may bolt for Crist and convince a few centrist Republican voters that he could actually win this race.

I doubt that that will happen. He has about 15% of the vote sewed up, and it’s a safe bet to say that African-Americans comprise a good portion of that voting bloc. I also don’t get a vibe from him that he’s not in it to win (saw him on Fox n Friends this a.m.).

Buy Danish on October 29, 2010 at 9:09 AM

Clinton must be finding out by now that he doesn’t carry the political weight that he used to, especially with the Mrs. distancing herself from him. Can’t even convince a black guy to get outta the race for the good of the party and maybe a little somethin’ somethin’ in it for him if he does. BJ may as well go sit on the porch with Jimmah.

Kissmygrits on October 29, 2010 at 9:09 AM

And do you believe that, AP?

There are two things at play here:

1. Rubio’s situation is really delicate especially if the Dems decide to completely shift their support to Lilith, er.. Crist.

2. It is possible that Meek has been unjustly coerced? WH henchman asking Meek if can still pull through? I would be intimidated if I were in his shoes. Note that he’s in the middle of the battle and has been under extreme pressure. RNC Chairman may have a point. This is “political lynching of a black man”.

TheAlamos on October 29, 2010 at 9:11 AM

I totally don’t get how this damages Meek at all.

AnninCA on October 29, 2010 at 8:46 AM

Oh.My.God!!!

People, the world is coming to an end. I actually agree with Ann!

ladyingray on October 29, 2010 at 9:11 AM

Hard to see how this helps Crist, at least with African-American Democrat voters in Florida. It seems to come across as Meek being pressured to get under the bus on his own by the party’s power brokers like Clinton, doing the bidding for Charlie (and the same problem faces Democrats nationwide in 2012, if the Clinton wing of the party gets together with others to try and toss Obama under the bus if they think he’s poison in the general election).

jon1979 on October 29, 2010 at 9:12 AM

a third of the vote has probably already been cast

With a third of the votes already cast, I don’t see how Rubio loses. What are early voters going to do, go back and ask to re-cast their vote?

Vashta.Nerada on October 29, 2010 at 9:13 AM

We have two opposing versions of it, and even if the truth is somewhere in between, Meek’s credibility is seriously damaged.

Don’t you think that damaging Meek’s credibility was the real intention of this whole affair. My guess is that the Dems realized that if Meek stayed in the race, Crist had absolutely no chance of winning, so the first effort was to ask him to step aside. When that didn’t work, they then decided to make him look the fool in the hopes that the otherwise Meek voters would transfer their support to Crist to keep Rubio from winning. The interesting part of this story is that they would recruit Clinton to do their leg work.

Syd B. on October 29, 2010 at 9:14 AM

Bill Clinton spent a lot of time talking people out of running. What is the status on the Joe Sestak maneuver that dropped off the radar?

onlineanalyst on October 29, 2010 at 9:15 AM

The conversation ……..

Slick Willie: “President Obama and I discussed the possibilities and the political benefits if you withdrew from the race.”

Meek: “So what are you saying, you guys want me to drop out?”

Slick Willie: “No, I’m only telling you that President Obama and I talked about the possibilities and the political benefits if you withdrew from the race.”

Meek: “I’m confused, you want me in or out?”

Slick Willie: “Neither the president or myself is saying, or asking you to withdraw. Let’s just say we feel a certain way and we were wondering if you ever thought the same way we do. Oh, and by the way, there are some juicy well-paying jobs opening up in the Obama administration.”

Meek: “So you’re offering me a job now?”

Slick Willie: “I never said that.”

————————————————————

Fast forward to Meek’s first encounter with the press ……

Press: “Did President Clinton ever ask you to withdraw from the Florida senate race?”

Meek: “Absolutely not.”

fogw on October 29, 2010 at 9:16 AM

I don’t see how this helps Crist. Dems are more likely to stay home than vote for the guy who is pressuring their nominee to drop out. I don’t get the sense that Rubio is so polarizing that they’d hold their noses in large numbers and go for the oompa loompa. I didn’t think it were possible, but Crist looks even more like a sleazy, unprincipled opportunist now than he did before, and surely Dems can see that too.

changer1701 on October 29, 2010 at 9:16 AM

My guess is that this will hurt Crist. It’s more reasonable to me, anyway, to think some people who might have considered him that this latest attempt is just too much for words.

They’ll just stay home.

AnninCA on October 29, 2010 at 9:17 AM

This sounds like more of the same type of stuff that circulated earlier. Crist wanted to hold a press conference to say that Meek was pulling out and endorsing him, and then planned to call Meek afterwards to let him know.

Vashta.Nerada on October 29, 2010 at 9:20 AM

On a more interesting note, Angle looks to me like she’s closed the deal. She’s up in the polls.

AnninCA on October 29, 2010 at 9:22 AM

This story has brought a floodlight on the race – so maybe Democrats might look at it like “Meeks cannot possibly win, so best go for the orange guy who says he’ll side with us”.

Ethics, honor, and trust are three words not found in the Democrat’s vocabulary.

It’s always “the end justifies the means”.

Fade out, roll credits, the end.

tru2tx on October 29, 2010 at 9:26 AM

The unlikely Democrat voters in Florida just got more unlikely. Bad news for the down ticket Florida Democrats on Tuesday.

SlaveDog on October 29, 2010 at 9:27 AM

“an odd conversation for that nominee to countenance.”

“Countenance?” What should he have done, if Clinton brought it up, besides what he did, which was, according to Meek, to say, “No way, no how?”

notropis on October 29, 2010 at 9:28 AM

Well, the CNN story suggests that Clinton didn’t talk to the WH.

AnninCA on October 29, 2010 at 9:00 AM

The running joke when Clinton was in the Oval Orifice was that CNN was the Clinton News Network. I preferred to call it the Chicken Noodle Network.

onlineanalyst on October 29, 2010 at 9:29 AM

Well, the CNN story suggests that Clinton didn’t talk to the WH.

AnninCA on October 29, 2010 at 9:00 AM

It’s a lie of omission, of course. The facts are obvious that Clinton was just executing the business of WH.

TheAlamos on October 29, 2010 at 9:31 AM

My stance: This actually damages the Dems more than Rubio.

The Dems getting with Crist to push him as the sole nominee over Meek creates a few problems for them.

1. It sinks whatever credibility Crist had left with the Republicans who bought his line of BS that he was a true independent and not a Dem in independent clothing.

2. Black voters in Florida will likely be pissed off that Meek is being forced from the ballot by a lying Oompa Loompa who was a Republican six months ago, lowering their turnout and hurting downticket candidates in the Governor and House races.

3. Doing so well after early voting has started limits the upside of the strategy, as a number of Meek voters have already voted.

In short, I think that this is a case of the Dems trying a last-ditch effort to save themselves in the Senate and remove a potential problem in Rubio, but one that will have long-term fallout for them when it fails.

teke184 on October 29, 2010 at 9:32 AM

People, the world is coming to an end. I actually agree with Ann!
ladyingray on October 29, 2010 at 9:11 AM

Of all the days I could pick from to have the carpets cleaned in my bunker, I chose the day that the world is ending. Da**it!

Bishop on October 29, 2010 at 9:33 AM

If you are a Democrat or a squishy RINO and Bill Clinton is on the other end of the line, hang up immediately. That man is poison.

BetseyRoss on October 29, 2010 at 9:40 AM

Fast forward to Meek’s first encounter with the press ……

Press: “Did President Clinton ever ask you to withdraw from the Florida senate race?”

Meek: “Absolutely not.”

fogw on October 29, 2010 at 9:16 AM

this little escapade screams for an iowahawk blogpost.

ted c on October 29, 2010 at 9:49 AM

Back on the porch…

right2bright on October 29, 2010 at 9:52 AM

They won’t but the black caucus should really take a hard look at this.
Meek is as democrat as you get. College is set up the young democrats, his mom was a congressman, he has been groomed and is as democrat as you can get…a real democrat, not my cup of tea, but I would choose him over Crist any day.
Yet the DNC wanted him to back out to support a turncoat, a traitor, a man with no democrat history or track record.
The fact is, they didn’t think a black man can win against even a disgraced white man.
The black caucus has some real soul searching to do…isn’t it obvious, that you have to not only be on the plantation, but no matter what, when one of the mastahs comes home, you have to give up your bed, and sleep in the hen house…

right2bright on October 29, 2010 at 9:58 AM

Look, I’m a Floridian in the Tampa Bay area. Rubio’s situation is NOT even CLOSE to being ‘delicate’ and his campaign is certainly NOT threatened by this kerfluffle!

If anything, this hurts CRIST, not Rubio or Meek! This will further trash what little support Crist had left from ‘moderate’ Republicans who might have thought he was truly an Independent. They probably won’t flock to Meek but will either reluctantly vote R or will stay home. Net advantage…Rubio!

Plus, black voters in FL are NOT at all happy about all the scheming by the Dems to try and force Meek to quit the race. Add that to the disgusting behavior by Crist during the debates and you’re going to get people moving away from the Orange One. Once again, advantage Rubio.

I must admit, Meek is actually a pretty decent guy for a Democrat. Disagree with his policies, of course, but the man has been rather classy through this campaign.

Kirin on October 29, 2010 at 10:10 AM

Why didn’t MSNBC grill and vet Obama like this guy did to Meeks? If they had would things have turned out different?

Herb on October 29, 2010 at 10:12 AM

This race is over, and all of this is of value only for further destroying the Florida Democrap coalition.

I’m with Allah, pissing my pants for joy over how completely Charlie “Snooki” Crist is effing up everything in Florida for the Demonrats.

Jaibones on October 29, 2010 at 10:14 AM

I totally don’t get how this damages Meek at all.

AnninCA on October 29, 2010 at 8:46 AM

Oh.My.God!!!

People, the world is coming to an end. I actually agree with Ann!

ladyingray on October 29, 2010 at 9:11 AM

Of course. Meek is the “victim” here.

The “inequality” is clear:

President + FormerPresBubba + DirtyRINO >> Upstarting “Black” Candidate for Governorship.

There’s really a foul play.

And Hell freezes over.

TheAlamos on October 29, 2010 at 10:26 AM

That may not be good news for Marco Rubio, either; if Democrats decide that Meek isn’t in it to win it, his current status notwithstanding, they may bolt for Crist and convince a few centrist Republican voters that he could actually win this race. Rubio appears to have enough of a lead to withstand that, and (as Rubio pointed out yesterday) a third of the vote has probably already been cast, but this race could be a little closer than anyone thought.

You’re nuts. This MAY cause some Meeks voters to stay home, but only a very few will be inspired to cast their lots in with Crist. Haven’t you been paying attention to how Meeks has been hammering Crist in the last few months? So now you think those Meeks voters are going suddenly say, “Yeah babeee, Crist is MY guy!”

If anything, this episode paints Meeks in a good light and once again exposes Crist for the bottom-feeding scum bucket he is.

PackerBronco on October 29, 2010 at 10:30 AM

Bill Clinton, at least, should have realized that the withdrawal method does not work.

unclesmrgol on October 29, 2010 at 10:38 AM

Clinton in Florida, proving (AGAIN!) that the ‘rats don’t give a rats a$$ about minorities (sorry, orange men don’t qualify as minorities). Asking the “black man” to drop out of the Senatorial race in favor of a caucasian, as the Drudge headline screamed last night, will hopefully open the eyes of many minorities to the FACT that the ‘rats are NOT on their side, so they will just stay home on 11/2. COntrary to Ed’s analysis, I don’t think this speaks to Meeks credibility, throwing votes to Crist…like Crist has ANY credibility!

I’m hoping the hardest hit by this whole thing is Alex Sink.

ornery_independent on October 29, 2010 at 10:42 AM

ANNOUNCEMENT! MEET THTE CANDIDATES!

Hey, Floridians! If any are in the Sarasota area, there is a free BBQ w/ the canidates on Sunday (1-4pm) at Dolphin Aviation at the Sarasota Airport. Rubio, Scott, Carroll, Buchanan and others will ALL be in attendance! Stop on by if you can…

ornery_independent on October 29, 2010 at 10:46 AM

Clinton in Florida, proving (AGAIN!) that the ‘rats don’t give a rats a$$ about minorities (sorry, orange men don’t qualify as minorities)

Meeks sure doesn’t agree. Neither do I. Clinton said, “Of course, we discussed it, but it’s his decision and his life.”

That’s quite fair. I think, again, this is much ado over nothing. Meeks isn’t pulling out.

He’s gotten very good marks for how he handled the campaign, even though he’s getting beaten. This bodes well for a future run, hopefully when Crist is retired. He’s losing this badly because of Crist, obviously.

AnninCA on October 29, 2010 at 10:51 AM

Sink is an interesting story, in my mind. She’s been treated fairly by the opposition. No slime tactics like the Dems have used against all the women teaparty candidates.

AnninCA on October 29, 2010 at 10:52 AM

A question that needs to be asked of Bill, Meek, and the White House, -was any other job discussed with Meek as an alternative to running for senator? Any other inducement?

A question that needs to be asked of Crist and Bill, -did Crist make any commitment re what party to caucus with in exchange for Bill’s and other endorsements?

slickwillie2001 on October 29, 2010 at 10:56 AM

I tend to agree with you that this particular he said-he said , taken by itself, is a lot of ado about nothing, AnninCa, except I cannot believe this clumsily handled incident plus the tepid support for Meeks from his party cumulatively helps Dems with their minority voters in Florida or anywhere else.

Where have the loud affirmations of unflinching support for their candidate from the DNC and this White House been over the last few days as this extended story has been percolating? They could have put the kabosh on it immediately but they chose not to – they look even slimier than the oleaginous fop Crist in this, and who would have ever dreamed that was possible?

The optics on all this are just awful: lily-white national Dem leaders skulking around behind the scenes reportedly trying to get their own A-A candidate to throw the race for the orange guy – a man whom they were eviscerating for being a minority-hating conservative extremist mere months ago? And they don’t swiftly & forcefully deny that they were doing so?

Any African-American politician in the Democratic Party today better be making sure they have alternative transportation lined up, because it’s very clear that A-A’s are always gonna be the first to get thrown off the bus and abandoned when the going gets tough for that party. (Just as a lot of Democratic women discovered during the 08 primaries before them.)

leilani on October 29, 2010 at 11:30 AM

He and Clinton were discussing early withdrawal. I’ll bet Billy-Boy’s mind wasn’t anywhere near politics at that moment.

Electus Interruptus

AubieJon on October 29, 2010 at 8:44 AM

Meeks was thinking how early withdrawal would lead to less support from FL Democrats later on. Clinton was thinking how early withdrawal led to a stained blue dress.

Kevin71 on October 29, 2010 at 11:35 AM

…but this race could be a little closer than anyone thought.

You’re just trying to scare Allahpundit, aren’t you?

irishspy on October 29, 2010 at 12:21 PM

Clinton apparently made 11 appearances for Meeks. That’s enough to set aside any notion that he wasn’t supportive, for goodness sakes.

AnninCA on October 29, 2010 at 8:47 AM

This is politics. None of this should be surprising. And no one is more menacing, then the Dems. If there’s a machine, and it’s working…they always carry a monkey wrench to throw at it.

capejasmine on October 29, 2010 at 12:27 PM

I seeing this hurting Crist not Rubio. Democrats who were looking at Crist will be more likely to vote for Meeks now because he stood up and said NO!

Crist is the loser in all of this — the words I would like to use about Crist and the White House since he agreed to caucus with the Dems I won’t put in print. Suffice it to say that Crist is the lowest common denominator of politicians. You don’t get any lower than Charlie Crist.

If Greer knows what is good for him, he will turn on Crist and tell the whole story of how Charlie may not have had his own card but he had Greer and his Governor’s/political aides charge items for him including a trip to Europe for Crist’s wife. Crist is nothing but a scumbag. Probably goes to work for Obama after this — two make a perfect paid and throw in Clinton for a threesome.

PhiKapMom on October 29, 2010 at 12:50 PM

I seeing this hurting Crist not Rubio. Democrats who were looking at Crist will be more likely to vote for Meeks now because he stood up and said NO!

Crist is the loser in all of this — the words I would like to use about Crist and the White House since he agreed to caucus with the Dems I won’t put in print. Suffice it to say that Crist is the lowest common denominator of politicians. You don’t get any lower than Charlie Crist.

If Greer knows what is good for him, he will turn on Crist and tell the whole story of how Charlie may not have had his own card but he had Greer and his Governor’s/political aides charge items for him including a trip to Europe for Crist’s wife. Crist is nothing but a scumbag. Probably goes to work for Obama after this — two make a perfect paid and throw in Clinton for a threesome.

PhiKapMom on October 29, 2010 at 12:50 PM

So Democrats don’t want the guy of color, they want the white Leftist dude? Standard Operating Practices here.

Sultry Beauty on October 29, 2010 at 1:18 PM

Hey, Floridians! If any are in the Sarasota area, there is a free BBQ w/ the canidates on Sunday (1-4pm) at Dolphin Aviation at the Sarasota Airport. Rubio, Scott, Carroll, Buchanan and others will ALL be in attendance! Stop on by if you can…

ornery_independent on October 29, 2010 at 10:46 AM

Dang! That is very tempting! Not too far a drive for me…

Sink is an interesting story, in my mind. She’s been treated fairly by the opposition. No slime tactics like the Dems have used against all the women teaparty candidates.

AnninCA on October 29, 2010 at 10:52 AM

Like all Floridians, I’ve been getting mailboxes full of campaign crap from every candidate under the hot FL sun. All the anti-Sink stuff focuses on her policies, her support for Obama’s agenda and her job with NationsBank involving low-income mortgage/predatory loan programs, NOT personal attacks such as have been directed against various female conservative candidates.

Kirin on October 29, 2010 at 4:07 PM