Shocker: Bush beats Obama 48/43 in poll
posted at 12:55 pm on October 28, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
When I wrote yesterday that the “blame Bush” strategy had reached its expiration date, I had no idea how prescient that was. Pollster Douglas Schoen, who partners with longtime Democratic strategist Mark Penn at Penn Schoen & Berland, has taken his final look at the midterm electorate and finds it extraordinarily hostile to Barack Obama. The President only gets 38% for a re-election bid, but the news is worse than that — much worse, according to US News & World Report:
According to pollster Doug Schoen, whose new poll shows vast support for the Tea Party movement among voters, the president is still liked by about half the nation. In fact, more like him personally than like his policies. Some 48 percent think he’s a nice guy, while just 42 percent approve of his job performance.
But that personal favorability doesn’t translate into re-election support when voters are asked if Obama deserves a second term. Says Schoen: “Despite voters feelings toward Obama personally, 56 percent say he does not deserve to be re-elected, while 38 percent say he does deserve to be re-elected president.” Worse, Schoen adds, “43 percent say that Barack Obama has been a better president than George W. Bush, while 48 percent say Bush was a better president than Obama has been.”
Schoen’s presentation focuses mainly on Tea Party influence on the election, and postulates the effects of a third-party candidate from the Right in the 2012 presidential election. However, there is more immediate data on this election as well. A majority of 53% wants Republicans to control Congress as an outcome of the midterms, while only 36% want Democrats controlling Congress. That more or less corroborates the gap found in Gallup polling on the midterm leanings from yesterday. Overall, the Schoen poll shows a nine-point lead for Republicans on the generic Congressional ballot, 48/39.
Not only that, but the messaging of Democrats is falling flat. Despite the hysteria about money supporting Republican candidates, only 29% of those likely voters polled by Schoen believe that will be the reason for a GOP takeover in one or both houses of Congress. Fifty-three percent say it will be the result of “the perceived failed policies of Obama and the Democrats.” That also dovetails with Greg Sargent’s analysis of the failure of another Democratic message, that Republicans have been too obstructionist in the last two years:
In a post yesterday about Mitch McConnell’s stated desire to ensure that Obama is a “one term president,” I noted that there’s no evidence to speak of that the Dem strategy of pillorying GOP partisanship and obstructionism has paid any dividends.
The internals of today’s New York Times poll seem to confirm this. They suggest that the public just isn’t prepared to believe that Republicans are any more partisan or obstructionist than Dems are. …
This, even though Dems have been relentlessly hammering Republicans as obstructionist, nakedly political and fully committed to nothing more than destroying the Obama presidency for over a year now. This suggests that voters quite properly view both political parties as political — in other words, people expectthem to try to do what it takes to win. Efforts to claim the moral high ground on who’s truly bipartisan and who isn’t come across as so much Beltway white noise.
It turns out that voters are much more interested in policy and track records than partisan bickering. One particular point on policy seems worth noting from Schoen’s analysis, on the Bush tax cuts. More than three-quarters of voters want the tax rates extended for the middle- and working-class earners, hardly a surprise, although 17% oppose this. But a majority wants them all extended, 50/40, preferring to keep money in the private sector.
And perhaps that’s why voters are beginning to prefer the oft-maligned George W. Bush over Barack Obama. It’s worth noting that Bush managed to pass his economic policies with much smaller Congressional majorities than Obama has enjoyed … until now.









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Doesn’t matter anymore.
Inanemergencydial on October 28, 2010 at 12:56 PM
There’s really only one thing to say in a situation like this:
Count it!
Good Solid B-Plus on October 28, 2010 at 12:56 PM
Ha Ha.
Edouard on October 28, 2010 at 12:57 PM
Not a shocker to me.
Vashta.Nerada on October 28, 2010 at 12:58 PM
If the tax cuts are not made permanent, those numbers will become catastrophic for PBHO.
It’s lame duck hunting season, I hope the GOP is up to the task.
Bishop on October 28, 2010 at 12:58 PM
You know who this helps? Jeb Bush.
Emperor Norton on October 28, 2010 at 12:59 PM
I’d bet even Jimmy Carter would beat him at this point.
Done That on October 28, 2010 at 12:59 PM
So.. 38% of the population is totally off their rocker?
GoodBoy on October 28, 2010 at 1:00 PM
0bama is on track to be the most hated and reviled president in American history.
Rebar on October 28, 2010 at 1:01 PM
love it!!!
cmsinaz on October 28, 2010 at 1:01 PM
“beginning to prefer” Bush to Obama? Ed, I think Americans are wayyy past that point.
ChrisB on October 28, 2010 at 1:01 PM
Phew.
Decision Points is being leaked all over the place. Its splashed all over Drudge.
Maybe the Dems will over play the anti-Bush hand this weekend. No one will care. They will just look desperate.
swamp_yankee on October 28, 2010 at 1:01 PM
no third party in 12…this sucker is going down
cmsinaz on October 28, 2010 at 1:02 PM
Only shocker is that it took so long.
American Elephant on October 28, 2010 at 1:03 PM
The adults are in charge!
ladyingray on October 28, 2010 at 1:03 PM
Also helps Reggie Bush, a case of cold Busch Lite, George Castanza, the Sesame Street letter “W”…
ChrisB on October 28, 2010 at 1:03 PM
No surprise . . . Obama is a cancer in the heart of the Republic.
rplat on October 28, 2010 at 1:03 PM
So the Obama Recovery is not an economic one…it is a Bush popularity one. Now I understand.
WashJeff on October 28, 2010 at 1:03 PM
The Clintons are meeting to plan Hillary’s 2012 take-away of the Democratic nomination right about…now.
My collie says:
CyberCipher on October 28, 2010 at 1:03 PM
Leader versus scold.
Is this a great country, or what?
Bruno Strozek on October 28, 2010 at 1:06 PM
She is in Russia right now asking if she can have that reset button back, she needs it for 2012.
WashJeff on October 28, 2010 at 1:07 PM
It’s lame duck hunting season, I hope the GOP is up to the task.
Bishop on October 28, 2010 at 12:58 PM
Bishop:)
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Rabbit season, duck season
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-k5J4RxQdE&feature=related
canopfor on October 28, 2010 at 1:07 PM
Polls are off by 12% or more.
Tsunami is wrong, think Biblical flood.
barnone on October 28, 2010 at 1:07 PM
I think that a clear majority of people now feel that they were flat out lied to about by Obama about his true agenda.
This is breaking faith at the highest possible level with the American voter, something W would never have done.
Character matters.
jjshaka on October 28, 2010 at 1:08 PM
One of the most enraging things that BO speaks about is the “lost decade” under Bush. Excuse me, but I believe more than a majority of Americans enjoyed peace and prosperity under Bush. Now all we have is misery and poverty under Obama.
Obama sucks.
Key West Reader on October 28, 2010 at 1:08 PM
Perhaps people are starting to realize that (a) the dems actually controlled congress in 2007 and 2008 and that (b) man of the things the media said about Bush were lies.
DethMetalCookieMonst on October 28, 2010 at 1:08 PM
SNORT!
The great and evil Bush is a better president than Barry. Must be all of those unwashed bitter Bible and gun clingers.
HE HE!
gophergirl on October 28, 2010 at 1:09 PM
Hey, you really could say that it is Bush’s fault.
(For being moderately competent by comparison, that is)
Chip on October 28, 2010 at 1:09 PM
….And along came Jeb….
Bradky on October 28, 2010 at 1:09 PM
Maybe voters did learn something from the 2008 elections.
GarandFan on October 28, 2010 at 1:10 PM
Coke vs. Coke w/Vanilla
portlandon on October 28, 2010 at 1:10 PM
“The Republican Party is dead….they’re going to have to tack left.”
/oh wait.
hoosiermama on October 28, 2010 at 1:10 PM
BUSH, Slow moving Progressive
OBAMA, Speed it up Progressive
Different speed, same destination.
PappyD61 on October 28, 2010 at 1:13 PM
Bush has more class than any Democrat living or dead.
rplat on October 28, 2010 at 1:14 PM
no contest. Coke w/Vanilla lost (Obama).
upinak on October 28, 2010 at 1:14 PM
So,the Two year Senator,thats Mr.Obama,he worked
awfully hard to get that title,just like Community
Agitator and MIA POTUSA,and MIA LOTFW has hit pol
itical,almost rock bottom,has poll numbers thats
are elevated less than the height of a typical st
reet curb,
awesome,ain’t it!!!!!
Oh,this was thee smartest Liberal,THE MAN WHO SAID HE
HAD A PLAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
canopfor on October 28, 2010 at 1:14 PM
Whatever happened to “P” Bush?
swamp_yankee on October 28, 2010 at 1:15 PM
If the sitting president is still campaigning against the last one who hasn’t been in office for years… well, time to reconsider your strategy.
WitchDoctor on October 28, 2010 at 1:15 PM
B-b-but… dog poop and all that.
Greek Fire on October 28, 2010 at 1:15 PM
What a dumb poll. What a waste of time.
Bush is gone. He is not relevant now.
It just shows what a thin bench the Repubs have for 2012, or they would be polling that.
Moesart on October 28, 2010 at 1:16 PM
And HotAirians……let’s not kid ourselves.
….if the Economy recovers, barring some major disaster like another War or scandal Obama will have his numbers come back up and he would be VERY DIFFICULT TO BEAT in 2012.
PappyD61 on October 28, 2010 at 1:16 PM
He’s relevant as long as Barry makes him relevant. If they would stop blaming him than polls like this wouldn’t be necessary.
gophergirl on October 28, 2010 at 1:18 PM
+1
spot on!!
enough with inheritance
cmsinaz on October 28, 2010 at 1:19 PM
Seems that Compassionate Conservatism is all the rage here at HotAir. Dumb a$$es! Compassionate Conservatism is the reason that we are in the mess that we find ourselves now.
I guess that by association “Tokyo” Rove is now THE Man again.
P. Monk on October 28, 2010 at 1:20 PM
FIRED UP…………………………..
READY TO GO…………………….
TO THE POLLS………………………….
TO VOTE……………………….
TO KICK POLITICAL *SS……….
canopfor on October 28, 2010 at 1:20 PM
FIRED UP…………………………..
READY TO GO…………………….
TO THE POLLS………………………….
TO VOTE……………………….
TO KICK POLITICAL *SS……….
canopfor on October 28, 2010 at 1:21 PM
FIRED UP…………………………..
READY TO GO…………………….
TO THE POLLS………………………….
TO VOTE……………………….
TO KICK POLITICAL *SS……….
canopfor on October 28, 2010 at 1:22 PM
Not sure if this has been put up on HotAir yet – but the REAL news is this …
The Democrats have completely exploded their coalition.
They have NOTHING but the HARD LEFT remaining to turn to.
HondaV65 on October 28, 2010 at 1:22 PM
Recall!
JammieWearingFool on October 28, 2010 at 1:23 PM
I had the misfortune to watch this idiot keep blaming Bush on the Daily Show last night.
He’s really not doing himself any favors, y’know.
Ryan Anthony on October 28, 2010 at 1:23 PM
Blacks – 13%
Union Members 10%
General imbeciles – 15%
There’s your 38%
angryed on October 28, 2010 at 1:25 PM
It just occurred to me… I have been so frustrated that Obama and the Congress keep acting like they were out of town when the current financial policies were made… but in reality when this economic down turn started it was Democrats in charge of the Congress and Bush didn’t even sign the last budget they sent him.
But the people who vote–know who won the elections in 2006! The people who pay enough attention to vote, know Democrats have held the purse for 4 years, not 2 years like the administration keeps saying! Obama was a Senator, no?
They know because when you vote, you look at results of elections.
So who ever the Dems are lying too, they can’t fool the ones who vote. At least not this time.
petunia on October 28, 2010 at 1:25 PM
I suggest you sign up for a Political Science 101 class.
Vashta.Nerada on October 28, 2010 at 1:26 PM
This poll is too easy.
How does Barack Obama poll versus Jimmy Carter?
Dr Evil on October 28, 2010 at 1:26 PM
say it loud, say it proud!
:)
cmsinaz on October 28, 2010 at 1:27 PM
Yes of course – that always happens when the leader of a nation employs HUGE HELPINGS OF SOCIALISM!
That stuff just perks the economy right up!
/sarcasm.
It’s not happenin’ Pappy. This man knows how to destroy a capitalist economy – not build one.
HondaV65 on October 28, 2010 at 1:27 PM
Darn it,oops double post!
canopfor on October 28, 2010 at 1:28 PM
Nothing extraordinary about this! This is about a guy who is suppose to be POTUS who, when he was campaigning for office, had people so bamboozled by his oratory blather that he was able to give his nomination speech in the middle of a baseball stadium amidst faux Roman columns, and no one so much as called him on this action even being semi-considered to be narcissitic in nature.
It took two years of driving the economy into the ground, out of control spending on a level never before seen in history, and destroying the healthcare system in this country to finally open peoples eyes to what this guy is really all about.
The only thing that is actually extraordinary is that there are still some people running around out there who are still convinced that everything Obama is doing is A-OK with them.
What it will take for these folk to see the truth as well is anyone’s conjecture.
pilamaye on October 28, 2010 at 1:28 PM
Yes, the planet is healing itself.
esnap on October 28, 2010 at 1:29 PM
this
cmsinaz on October 28, 2010 at 1:29 PM
FIFY
Destination: The usual with socialism – Collapse and ruin.
Chip on October 28, 2010 at 1:29 PM
That depends if any third-party candidates are stealing votes from Carter.
ChrisB on October 28, 2010 at 1:30 PM
canopfor on October 28, 2010 at 1:20 PM
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say it loud, say it proud!
:)
cmsinaz on October 28, 2010 at 1:27 PM
cmsinaz:Yup,tick…..tick….tick…:)
canopfor on October 28, 2010 at 1:30 PM
Vashta.Nerada on October 28, 2010 at 1:26 PM
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
P. Monk on October 28, 2010 at 1:30 PM
Wow so all African-Americans are off their rocker as well as most of the firemen and policemen who are union members?
I’d say you probably belong to the other 15% you mentioned.
Bradky on October 28, 2010 at 1:30 PM
Boom!
dczombie on October 28, 2010 at 1:30 PM
It really doesn’t matter what name you put on the other side…
Homer Simpson – 48%
Barack Obama – 43%
mankai on October 28, 2010 at 1:31 PM
petunia, i don’t even think they gave w a budget…they were holding out until dear leader won the election…
cmsinaz on October 28, 2010 at 1:31 PM
Yeah but they are getting smarter every week. You can see it it that number shrinking, even now I think it’s at 34.
The Expert Knows
HAExpert on October 28, 2010 at 1:31 PM
Better Poll: Dino Rossi +1
(They vote by mail in WA, so Tuesday is irreleavant really. All hands should be on deck for Rossi right now.)
swamp_yankee on October 28, 2010 at 1:32 PM
Nah -we just prefer honesty and character over a lying scumbag.
gophergirl on October 28, 2010 at 1:32 PM
The point is, dems from the top down have run against Bush since 2003; now, Bush is more popular than their messiah. It has nothing to do with Bush’s policies.
Sad that I have to explain this to you.
Vashta.Nerada on October 28, 2010 at 1:33 PM
cmsinaz on October 28, 2010 at 1:29 PM
Do you really believe the George Bush was a limited government conservative?
P. Monk on October 28, 2010 at 1:33 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Chuck Schick on October 28, 2010 at 1:35 PM
i’d wish he’d use his veto pen a little bit more however, he stood on his convictions and didn’t blame his predecessor,
what you see is what you get with W
cmsinaz on October 28, 2010 at 1:37 PM
Charlie Sheen – 48%
Barack Obama – 43%
Hey, you’re right!
ChrisB on October 28, 2010 at 1:38 PM
Wow…condescension? Always the best teacher.
Good luck with that.
P. Monk on October 28, 2010 at 1:40 PM
Let me guess…..Ron Paul fan.
DethMetalCookieMonst on October 28, 2010 at 1:40 PM
P. Monk on October 28, 2010 at 1:33 PM
The government grew paidly under Reagan too.
Need someone to blame. Blame liberals, Democrats, the press, Hollywood, unions, college and universities, the publishing industry, Wall Street…
What’s worse are the self-righteous, cry baby Republicans who whine because every Republican didnt do exactly as they wished. The “only if the GOP listened to me” faction.
The pendulum swings back and forth. W is what we needed in 2000 and 2004. Now we need something different. But soon too this phase will come to an end.
Stop crying. He was a fine man and President.
swamp_yankee on October 28, 2010 at 1:41 PM
I’ll give you that. I just don’t understand the glee expressed by some here.
P. Monk on October 28, 2010 at 1:42 PM
Obama’s left-of-center coalition, which got young people and intellectuals involved and which appealed to a majority of women, blacks and Latinos, has evaporated into nothing.”
The Democrats and the president have been put totally on the defensive. From now on they will only be able to react, rather than act.”
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From Der Spiegel,
Me thinks the Tea Party might be cook’n Hopey’s goose,
this analysist sounds good to me!!
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‘Obama Has Underestimated the Frustration in the Country’
09/16/2010
The center-left Süddeutsche Zeitung writes:
“The success of the Tea Party candidate Christine O’Donnell does not bode well for the Republicans, nor for the Democrats (even if they see it differently at the moment), nor for the whole American political machine.”
“Obama has underestimated the frustration in the country and the power of the Tea Party movement, which gives the prevailing disillusionment a platform and a voice. It is by far the most vibrant political force in America. Obama’s left-of-center coalition, which got young people and intellectuals involved and which appealed to a majority of women, blacks and Latinos, has evaporated into nothing.”
“The new right, though, is on the rise. It sets the agenda. America is facing a shift to the right. The Republicans have already marched in this direction of their own accord, regardless how many Tea Party reactionaries get a seat and a voice in Congress in November. The Democrats and the president have been put totally on the defensive. From now on they will only be able to react, rather than act.”
– Jess Smee
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,717845,00.html
canopfor on October 28, 2010 at 1:42 PM
The irony is that conservatives have never been more popular in America than now, primarily because they are completely shut out of the political process. But once they retake the House for two years, 2012 might not look like such a cakewalk. When times are bad, being anywhere near the levers of power is suicide. And in 2012, times will be very bad indeed. Taking the House now is an unfortunate development. It may feel good now, but in 2012, it will be a political liability.
keep the change on October 28, 2010 at 1:42 PM
Why do people continue to think Obama is “a nice guy”? Everything he says and does contradicts this. He spits venom, contempt, and condescension almost daily.
IronDioPriest on October 28, 2010 at 1:43 PM
It took less than two years.
LESS THAN TWO YEARS, FOLKS.
Less than two years for the “worst president in history” to be more desired to lead the country than “the One”.
I love this country.
MadisonConservative on October 28, 2010 at 1:44 PM
DethMetalCookieMonst on October 28, 2010 at 1:40 PM
Nope…a realist. Not a mindless drone or a big government Republican fan boy.
P. Monk on October 28, 2010 at 1:45 PM
I’d have loved it even more if the voters had felt this way back in 2008.
ChrisB on October 28, 2010 at 1:47 PM
Wow, that is horrible!
WisCon on October 28, 2010 at 1:49 PM
Bush is not popular. Not with independents and not with conservatives. Regardless of who you put up against Obama, they look good. This reflects on Obama, not Bush.
Ralph Lauren – 44%
Ted Bundy – 39%
Obama – 43%
Unibomber – 22%
keep the change on October 28, 2010 at 1:50 PM
Of course Bush was better, but that isn’t saying much.
The country deserves and needs far better than both of them.
james23 on October 28, 2010 at 1:51 PM
Nope! It’s “Fried Up! Take it To Go”!
/What Obama yells when Michelle the food cop isn’t around.
Key West Reader on October 28, 2010 at 1:58 PM
Just watch. He’ll become suddenly ill while in India and have to ahem… step aside. Then we have SloJoe for 2 years and then Billary steps in. Watch.
Key West Reader on October 28, 2010 at 1:59 PM
In who’s eyes?
Inanemergencydial on October 28, 2010 at 2:01 PM
Maybe you should be reminding Obama of that…
Scrappy on October 28, 2010 at 2:05 PM
This is all so…so unexpected!
-msm pundit-
Sweet_Thang on October 28, 2010 at 2:06 PM
Relax. That was just one question of many they asked. It’s an amusing result.
strictnein on October 28, 2010 at 2:14 PM
When he promises to punish his enemies, he means it in the nicest of ways.
BlueCollarAstronaut on October 28, 2010 at 2:19 PM
Yippie!! About time!!! History is already correcting itself.
As with Lincoln, GW Bush will find himself one of the favorite forward looking Presidents of his time, while his
bashers will be swept into shame and embarrassment.
dec5 on October 28, 2010 at 2:23 PM
Yippie!! About time!!! History is already correcting itself.
As with Lincoln, GW Bush will find himself one of the favorite forward looking Presidents of his time, while his bashers will be swept into shame and embarrassment.
dec5 on October 28, 2010 at 2:26 PM
Did anyone else see this article that Drudge had up for a while this morning where even democrats are trying to figure out how to get Obama out of office before his term is over?
behiker on October 28, 2010 at 2:27 PM
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