Obama: ObamaCare provides “structure” for further gov’t growth

posted at 2:43 pm on October 28, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Oh, man, I’ve had it up to here with those lying wingnuts that claim ObamaCare is just a Trojan horse for expansion of government control over health care. This was just a one-time fix, not a structure for increasing regulation and top-down authoritarian control over one-sixth of the American economy. What conservative fearmonger is claiming that it’s all part of an expansionist plot now?

This one (via Verum Serum):

If you want to sell ObamaCare to a deeply skeptical public, is Social Security the best example Obama has? It may have started out as a “widows and orphans” fund, but it rapidly turned into a Ponzi scheme that is now running monthly cash deficits, thanks to a historic lack of workers per beneficiary. It’s part of a gigantic entitlement catastrophe that is rapidly approaching, and which will require serious change and downscaling in one way or another if the US is to avoid getting swamped by its own debt and unfunded liabilities.

Actually, the better analogy is Medicare, not Social Security. Originally targeted at a small group of beneficiaries, the program grew into a massive insurance program for all Americans that has an even worse financial foundation than Social Security. It grew much more rapidly in size and scope than did Social Security, and now generates such massive deficits that it can’t properly compensate its providers, who are fleeing the program in response.

Either way, as John at Verum Serum points out, this substantiates the argument about ObamaCare being a Trojan horse all along:

We knew the President wasn’t telling the truth back then. Every time the President promised “if you like the plan you have now, you can keep it” he was telling, at best, half the truth. Every time he said it was about “choice and competition” he was being dishonest. This was always a framework for change. Canadian-style single-payer is what they’ve always wanted and it’s what they still want.

We reached out to various reporters trying to get them to cover the story of the public option and explain to people why it was so important to liberals on Capitol Hill. Despite the fact that the public option was the center of the controversy for months, no one would touch it. And so, with the exception of a couple editorials and talk radio, no one informed Americans that health reform was, from its inception, designed to engulf the private system over time. Other than Glenn Beck’s show and a few other places, none of those video clips of people admitting the real plan ever appeared on TV. But now we have one final clip to add to our collection, the one above of the President admitting we were right.

President Obama says he’ll keep pushing to expand health control as long as he’s in office. That sounds like a great reason to make sure he only gets one term.

And to make sure that those in Congress who abetted the effort don’t return in January, too.


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When I found out that PBHO read Niebuhr, I was really on his side, now not so much.

Bishop on October 28, 2010 at 2:46 PM

When I found out that PBHO read Niebuhr, I was really on his side, now not so much.

Bishop on October 28, 2010 at 2:46 PM

And we all thought it was the Pants crease. =)

portlandon on October 28, 2010 at 2:47 PM

Or, more accurately, a stepping stone for Obama’s Marxist utopia. Obama is a cancer on the heart of the Republic.

rplat on October 28, 2010 at 2:47 PM

Dang. Rush was right. I should not have doubted.

chaswv on October 28, 2010 at 2:47 PM

Yep he said it “Fundamentally Change America” did you think he was kidding?

The Expert Knows

HAExpert on October 28, 2010 at 2:48 PM

Bankrupt.

Morally & Intellectually Bankrupt.

portlandon on October 28, 2010 at 2:49 PM

Duh. We gave the mouse a cookie. Now it’ll be “just a little bit more” and “what’s the big deal, it’s just a little bit more on top of what we already have”.

That was obvious.

amerpundit on October 28, 2010 at 2:49 PM

50 years of damage crammed into 18 months.

carbon_footprint on October 28, 2010 at 2:52 PM

Whenever he speaks to a friendly audience, he lowers his guard and ends up saying things that belie his public statements.

He is not a smart politician. He hasn’t yet grasped the concept of electronic recordings.

keep the change on October 28, 2010 at 2:52 PM

Every govt plan is a trojan horse with the ultimate goal of fascism.

angryed on October 28, 2010 at 2:55 PM

Math is hard.

Congress ratio of degrees in law:math/economics must be about 200:1

We need to have quotas in Congress. For every attorney, we need two people with degrees in math/economics, five people who have small business experience and two miscellaneous.

INC on October 28, 2010 at 2:56 PM

Whenever he speaks to a friendly audience, he lowers his guard and ends up saying things that belie his public statements.

keep the change on October 28, 2010 at 2:52 PM

You call him “Dude” and he lets his guard down.

WashJeff on October 28, 2010 at 2:57 PM

He is not a smart politician. He hasn’t yet grasped the concept of electronic recordings.

keep the change on October 28, 2010 at 2:52 PM

If the MSM never plays those recordings it’s as if they never took place. It’s all fine and good that we see this. But we already knew what he said to be true. It’s the (to quote Katie Couric) the great unwashed that need to hear/see these clips. But they don’t go to blogs. They get their news from Katie and Anderson who will never play the recordings.

When the referee is on your side, you don’t really have to worry about how good your team is.

angryed on October 28, 2010 at 2:57 PM

I think people are sick of political commericials at this point, so the Chamber of Commerce has opted from product placement within TV shows; thus, Obama exposing himself on the Daily Show.

WashJeff on October 28, 2010 at 3:00 PM

The crowd was applauding and cheering. They really are ignorant.

darwin on October 28, 2010 at 3:00 PM

Obi-Won ObamaCare provides “structure” for further government growth

Thanks, champ, for giving us the quote that backs our rationale for tearing down your craptastic edifice … further government growth is the last thing this country needs.

ya2daup on October 28, 2010 at 3:01 PM

Repeal that “structure”.

Scrappy on October 28, 2010 at 3:02 PM

Every day is one day closer to the end of his only term.

publiuspen on October 28, 2010 at 3:05 PM

And anyone who wants to repeal it wants to harm babies and the disabled and the elderly and the infirm!
/Dem politicians
They think they will be in election spin nirvana for the next 50 years. The plan all along.

txmomof6 on October 28, 2010 at 3:05 PM

Woa! Did Obama just say,” Glenn Beck isn’t the whack job we progressives make him out to be. Actually he’s been right about us all along!”? Yes he did!

cartooner on October 28, 2010 at 3:05 PM

Duh. We gave the mouse a cookie. Now it’ll be “just a little bit more” and “what’s the big deal, it’s just a little bit more on top of what we already have”.

That was obvious.

amerpundit on October 28, 2010 at 2:49 PM

Dude, you’re making me break out the addiction tunes…

Mr. Brownstone.

ted c on October 28, 2010 at 3:06 PM

Welcome to the Socialist States of America, ladies and gents!

capejasmine on October 28, 2010 at 3:07 PM

REPEAL OBAMACARE

Kini on October 28, 2010 at 3:07 PM

Having to actually think of answers as opposed to reading off TOTUS is difficult for him. Didn’t he once say the USPS was a good example of what gov’t can accomplish?

Oleta on October 28, 2010 at 3:08 PM

Woa! Did Obama just say,” Glenn Beck isn’t the whack job we progressives make him out to be. Actually he’s been right about us all along!”? Yes he did!

cartooner on October 28, 2010 at 3:05 PM

Dems have been crucifying Beck for months. Now…how many will wake up to the reality that the Dem party has been, and still are lying about almost everyone, and everything? Is this what it takes? If not, what more evidence do they need?

capejasmine on October 28, 2010 at 3:09 PM

What a SHOCKER! Not.

Flyboy on October 28, 2010 at 3:09 PM

Yes, let lawyers and lobbyists redesign health care and Congressional morons vote for it.

The people who wrote it, know absolutely nothing about health care or the insurance industry.

The people who vote for it, don’t read the Bill.

What could go wrong?

Better yet, what could go right?

NoDonkey on October 28, 2010 at 3:10 PM

Motley Crue – Dr. Feelgood

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHP6U5vQ3mU

canopfor on October 28, 2010 at 3:10 PM

The crowd was applauding and cheering. They really are ignorant.
darwin on October 28, 2010 at 3:00 PM

A free carton of smokes and a reminder to cheer and clap when the “applause” sign is triggered by Axelrod will do wonders for crowd participation.

Bishop on October 28, 2010 at 3:13 PM

Whoever put the columns behind him IS a genius.
As opposed to Odumbo. If he goes on this program again he should just start wearing a dunce cap.

ORconservative on October 28, 2010 at 3:14 PM

New Federal Bureaucracies Created in Pelosi Health Care Bill
November 2, 2009

The House Republican Conference has compiled a list of all the new boards, bureaucracies, commissions, and programs created in H.R. 3962, Speaker Pelosi’s government takeover of health care:
================

1. Retiree Reserve Trust Fund (Section 111(d), p. 61)

2. Grant program for wellness programs to small employers (Section 112, p. 62)

3. Grant program for State health access programs (Section 114, p. 72)

4. Program of administrative simplification (Section 115, p. 76)

5. Health Benefits Advisory Committee (Section 223, p. 111)

6. Health Choices Administration (Section 241, p. 131)

7. Qualified Health Benefits Plan Ombudsman (Section 244, p. 138)

8. Health Insurance Exchange (Section 201, p. 155)

9. Program for technical assistance to employees of small businesses buying Exchange coverage (Section 305(h), p. 191)

10. Mechanism for insurance risk pooling to be established by Health Choices Commissioner (Section 306(b), p. 194)

11. Health Insurance Exchange Trust Fund (Section 307, p. 195)

12. State-based Health Insurance Exchanges (Section 308, p. 197)

13. Grant program for health insurance cooperatives (Section 310, p. 206)
————————
*(Partial List)

http://www.gop.gov/policy-news/09/11/02/new-federal-bureaucracies-created-in

canopfor on October 28, 2010 at 3:15 PM

Yeterday, on another thread, crr6 and another, were joking about being members of the communist party. I’m sure laughing, and joking that we were stupid, thinking this was what the country was coming to, under Obama.

What say they now???????

capejasmine on October 28, 2010 at 3:17 PM

He speaks before Greek columns, as if from the Pantheon.

Any chance of Samson (from the Bible) crashing this party?

He has “awakened a sleeping giant…”

Steve Z on October 28, 2010 at 3:20 PM

The crowd was applauding and cheering. They really are ignorant.

darwin on October 28, 2010 at 3:00 PM

No surprise, no one but hardcore believers are going to waste their time standing in line to see this tripe, and even if they didn’t applaud they can insert that later.

Stewart and the Bamster are really very much alike, -both empty suits with huge staffs writing every word they speak in an attempt to make them appear brilliant to their adoring fans.

slickwillie2001 on October 28, 2010 at 3:21 PM

He hasn’t yet grasped the concept of electronic recordings.

keep the change on October 28, 2010 at 2:52 PM

Obama is still hoping that he will be able to control the internet so he won’t have to worry about electronic recordings.

VibrioCocci on October 28, 2010 at 3:21 PM

This is no big secret. As one of Amanda Marcotte’s co-bloggers at Pandagon said in November of last year:

>> there’s only one real solution to the out-of-control pricing of health care services, and that’s single-payer, which we aren’t going to get, which is why even after whatever reform bill we get passes, nobody should stop agitating for more (shhhh…don’t tell Republicans that little secret.) [emphasis added]

tommy shanks on October 28, 2010 at 3:21 PM

is it tuesday yet?

rollthedice on October 28, 2010 at 3:22 PM

Paging Senators Graham and Gregg.

Paging Senators Graham and Gregg.

Please pick up the red courtesy phone.

Fallon on October 28, 2010 at 3:23 PM

I just got here but I have to ask, is he reading from his tele(binky)prompter? Sure does look like it…

sicoit on October 28, 2010 at 3:23 PM

ObamaCare – designed to fail.

GarandFan on October 28, 2010 at 3:26 PM

Dedicated to: Team HopeLessNess/ChangeLessNess
===============================================

cake- comfort eagle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p99a6K81zqM

canopfor on October 28, 2010 at 3:27 PM

Obama: ObamaCare provides “structure” for further gov’t growth fascist tyranny

Luka on October 28, 2010 at 3:28 PM

I’ve seen something similar from Naked Emperor, but the older video at the Verum Serum site is a knockout.

Meanwhile, this is related, from an interview with Stanley Kurtz about his new book:

I also think Obama is ready for slow trench warfare with a Republican Congress. To prepare for that, he first needed to get in place programs the Republicans would try to repeal. Out of that polarizing battle, Obama hopes to jump-start a movement of have-nots angry about efforts to peel back their new entitlements. He may fail, but that is his long-term play. And it follows a well-worn community-organizing model, as I show in the book.

Buy Danish on October 28, 2010 at 3:30 PM

You gotta love these moments of honesty when he lacks his teleprompter. They’re rare events to be sure but i do like them…. and then shudder at the realization that this is our reality.

Yakko77 on October 28, 2010 at 3:46 PM

Did anyone really doubt this when they were so determined to ram Obamacare through? I know these people. They are not about brotherly love and never were. The only reason they took such a risk with their majority to ram through Obamacare was because of the potential future benefit to the power-mad Statists. Now the truth is out in the open, but is anyone here really surprised?

I didn’t think so.

hachiban on October 28, 2010 at 3:53 PM

If the newly elected GOP does not take on a “repeal” footing immediately, we are hosed. Accept no excuses from these bastages.

bloviator on October 28, 2010 at 3:56 PM

you have to admit, O is at his best, his most enthusiastic, his most upbeat, least hateful, most coherent when he tells the truth.

and he really sees the progressive vision as the best in the world…and he really isn’t bright enough to see what is happening to europe….or what has happen to every country that has embraced his vision…the vision of benign ruling elites…and serfs….somehow never works out well in the end

r keller on October 28, 2010 at 4:07 PM

Governing Kenya commie style … dreams of my whacked out commie father. Who knew.

Vote America, eject the Democrat.

tarpon on October 28, 2010 at 4:13 PM

When I found out that PBHO read Niebuhr, I was really on his side, now not so much.

Bishop on October 28, 2010 at 2:46 PM

Read him? Probably more like memorized a few quotes he could drop at cocktail parties and impress morons like Brooks with his “brilliance.”

AZCoyote on October 28, 2010 at 4:21 PM

actually, with morons like Brooks, I’m sure that they have done their profiling of him….let’s say they he is fond of Burke…so carry a book by Burke…maybe a couple of quotes.

this is kind of like college…you know, when you are trying to impress a girl, you get a sudden interest in X.

Brooks would be playing the part of the girl

r keller on October 28, 2010 at 4:32 PM

Rush says it is because – Scientist Prove Liberalism Is A Genetic Defect

Nearly Nobody on October 28, 2010 at 4:35 PM

Buy Danish on October 28, 2010 at 3:30 PM

Thanks for the link. That makes a great deal of sense. It’s all he knows. What he doesn’t grasp, however, is the character of our country.

Dorothy Rabinowitz wrote two columns, almost a year apart, in which she makes similar observations. (Emphasis added).

August 2009:

The president has a problem. For, despite a great election victory, Mr. Obama, it becomes ever clearer, knows little about Americans. He knows the crowds—he is at home with those. He is a stranger to the country’s heart and character.

June 2010:

For it was clear from the first that this president—single-minded, ever-visible, confident in his program for a reformed America saved from darkness by his arrival—was wanting in certain qualities citizens have until now taken for granted in their presidents. Namely, a tone and presence that said: This is the Americans’ leader, a man of them, for them, the nation’s voice and champion….

A great part of America now understands that this president’s sense of identification lies elsewhere, and is in profound ways unlike theirs. He is hard put to sound convincingly like the leader of the nation, because he is, at heart and by instinct, the voice mainly of his ideological class. He is the alien in the White House

INC on October 28, 2010 at 4:42 PM

INC on October 28, 2010 at 4:42 PM

I remember those – love Rabinowitz. He is an alien unless you’re a stealth Socialist, in which case you’re right at home with him and his agenda. And I love how the Left (including Barack) mock and ridicule those of us you call him the S word. Hopefully Kurtz’s book and others will help to peel the skin off the onion.

Buy Danish on October 28, 2010 at 5:13 PM

When the referee is on your side, you don’t really have to worry about how good your team is.

angryed on October 28, 2010 at 2:57 PM

THIS!!!!!!!!!!

Badger40 on October 28, 2010 at 5:33 PM

And he really sees the progressive vision as the best in the world…and he really isn’t bright enough to see what is happening to europe….or what has happen to every country that has embraced his vision…the vision of benign ruling elites…and serfs….somehow never works out well in the end

r keller on October 28, 2010 at 4:07 PM

With all due respect, for the millionth time, it has nothing whatsoever to do with obama not realizing that his elevation to dictatorship, and the intended absorption of the Republic into one world governance will “somehow never work out well in the end.”

It will work out perfectly for obama, and end in disaster for the unwashed masses and that is exactly what is intended and planned for.

Does anyone think that dictators care what happens, as long as absolute power is theirs? That they would turn away from their planned destruction because history has proven that dictatorships destroy? That destruction is a vital feature, not a bug.

Obama can’t wait to take his place among names such as Lenin, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot; joining himself to the pantheon of the worst humanity in history, and hoping audaciously, in his not-so-secret dreams, to surpass even these infamous madmen, because he lusts not to rule one nation, but to rule the planet.

tigerlily on October 28, 2010 at 5:45 PM

Probably more like memorized a few quotes he could drop at cocktail parties and impress morons like Brooks with his “brilliance.”

AZCoyote on October 28, 2010 at 4:21 PM

Chauncey Gardener.

BobMbx on October 28, 2010 at 6:01 PM

Now I know why my mother told me to “Always tell the truth because it’s easier than trying to keep track of a lie. You’ll never be able to remember what lie you told to whom and you’ll get caught in it.”

Done That on October 28, 2010 at 6:07 PM

LifeTrek on October 28, 2010 at 6:12 PM

Thanks; I heard that piece of the Stewart show excerpted on Fox News today and thought it sounded like typical Bammie BS.

slickwillie2001 on October 28, 2010 at 7:12 PM

Lying PoS.

jawkneemusic on October 28, 2010 at 7:28 PM

Thank you BuyDanish… the link was quite valuable.

I can’t believe how radical Beck used to sound. Now he sounds down right moderate.

This election is not enough. And it is not enough for Congress to mess with the small details of the Healthcare bill. If it gets improved it is still there. The structure is still there. It must go!

I don’t think many of our Republicans leaders understand what it represents, and how very important it is to the left that this structure remain.

Step by step we must dismantle the socialist take over.

I hope these fair weather Independents will stick with us until we can really destroy socialism. I am so afraid of protests like in France. There are a lot of dependent Americans, we must make that a stigma again!

petunia on October 28, 2010 at 7:38 PM

The entitlement ship is going to sink us fast. Obama and his minions know this. And when we’re begging in the streets for a spoonful of gruel, the elite will finally be happy. A spoonful of gruel for all: America is finally the land of equality and fairness.

Thanks for the hope and change, you moron Dem voters. Thanks a lot. Idiots.

Grace_is_sufficient on October 28, 2010 at 8:06 PM

but it rapidly turned into a Ponzi scheme that is now running monthly cash deficits, thanks to a historic lack of workers per beneficiary

Not quite all of the problem. The 1963 SCOTUS decision that allowed the government to spend the money as they pleased instead of keeping it in a true trust fund created a large piece of this debacle.

chemman on October 28, 2010 at 8:31 PM

He couldn’t even look Stewart in the eye the whole time he was spouting his talking points. Does the liar in chief really think this stuff is true and that we are buying it.

Kissmygrits on October 28, 2010 at 8:35 PM

Bishop on October 28, 2010 at 2:46 PM

Nearly anybody can read words the real trick is understanding what he read. Don’t think he has a clue about Niebuhr.

chemman on October 28, 2010 at 8:37 PM

I had an epiphany a day or two ago hearing another report of big bad corporations.

I’d much rather deal with a private or public corp over the Government any day. Show me the money. I want to see where every dime of Stim and Pork -ulus went. Senator Sessions, are you out there?

To deflect the growth of the albatross our children will find later,they demonize the American Dream.

I hope America makes the right choice come Tuesday.

seesalrun on October 28, 2010 at 10:21 PM