Lefty gossip site somehow unites entire blogosphere behind Christine O’Donnell
posted at 8:53 pm on October 28, 2010 by Allahpundit
I’m not linking the post — read Michelle’s take instead — but this is worth blogging anyway for the unusual degree of bipartisan contempt directed at the “scoop” in question. It’s not quite the entire blogosphere that’s cringing, but … it’s pretty close, including former Gawker editors, Media Matters fellows, and feminist bloggers. Even Donna Brazile has the dry heaves over it. Not a single word of any of the criticism will make Denton and Gawker think twice before doing it again to someone else, but don’t let that stop you from recognizing the good intentions of their critics. In fact, so disgusting is this story that even NOW has lowered the boom:
NOW repudiates Gawker’s decision to run this piece. It operates as public sexual harassment. And like all sexual harassment, it targets not only O’Donnell, but all women contemplating stepping into the public sphere.
NOW/PAC has proudly endorsed women’s rights champion Chris Coons, O’Donnell’s opponent in the Delaware Senate race, and finds O’Donnell’s political positions dangerous for women. That does not mean it’s acceptable to use slut-shaming against her, or any woman.
NOW has repeatedly called out misogyny against women candidates, and this election season is no different. Let me be honest: I look forward to seeing Christine O’Donnell defeated at the polls, but this kind of sexist attack is an affront to all women, and I won’t stand for it.
Dave Weigel summed things up nicely on Twitter this afternoon. Exit question: Is Delaware media going to cover this? If so, how?
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Sheila Jackson Lee and Joe Biden.
Now, the bar is on the ground.
massrighty on October 28, 2010 at 9:51 PM
Nahhhh, I think there’s something with the polls. Obama and Biden going to Delaware, and Coons calling out Palin to come campaign for O’Donnell? That’s not what someone who’s cruising along does.
ddrintn on October 28, 2010 at 9:51 PM
Uhhhhhh…kay.
MadisonConservative on October 28, 2010 at 9:51 PM
When the left and RINO’s has lost Allahpundit, they have no one left to turn to.
WoosterOh on October 28, 2010 at 9:52 PM
Dustin Dominiak. This is the guy who did this.
Chudi on October 28, 2010 at 9:52 PM
Ann Coulter said tonight on Hannity the one upset she wants on election night is Christine. Me, I want Barney Frank’s concession speech.
Marcus on October 28, 2010 at 9:53 PM
LOL, yeah. How DARE that witch think she can fit in such august company.
ddrintn on October 28, 2010 at 9:53 PM
You’re assuming that Coons wants to just win. Political candidates who obliterate opponents in Congressional races usually have a long career ahead of them. The more he buries O’Donnell, the better shot he’s got at re-election.
MadisonConservative on October 28, 2010 at 9:53 PM
Right you are, ddrintn. So many people complain about the state of things as to Congress and yet they continue to hold up the “league” of Congressional mean as some expectation or standard by which they criticize challengers.
What’s needed is a big change in expectations and what’s valued by those elected to Congress. As long as the “league” is what it is and people continue to use that as standard to measure challengers against, then, you just get more of the same and we all lose.
O’Donnell’s a breath of fresh air, and she’s been consistently quite courageous in being genuine with the public.
Lourdes on October 28, 2010 at 9:53 PM
I feel like donating to COD’s campaign after this. Hopefully it will turn into cashapalooza like it did for Sharron Angle after Joyless Behar’s ‘bitch’ rant.
cynccook on October 28, 2010 at 9:54 PM
Wish you would run for dog catcher so you could get buried by the dogs. You are always so negative towards certain candidates. Too bad your life could not be put out for all to scrutinize, liek what you did with that dog back in 1991.
WoosterOh on October 28, 2010 at 9:56 PM
I pointed out that it was a b*tchy thing that someone else wrote (to whom I commented with what you’ve quoted). And it was: a b*tchy thing to have written.
It’d be refreshing if people would just come out and write what they really mean and stop trying to cloak their denigrations of others in some form of “big talk.” People who do such underestimate the ability of the rest of us to understand what’s really bugging them.
Lourdes on October 28, 2010 at 9:56 PM
Sexism?!? Loathe her values?!?
Where is that coming from? Nevermind…just another case of jumping the gun and coming to your already entrenched ideas of me. And you couldn’t be more wrong.
O’Donnell simply is too amateurish and hardly qualified to be a US Senator. Has nothing to do with her personal “values” whatever they may be…I don’t know, she’s changed her tune on so many of her pet issues.
JetBoy on October 28, 2010 at 9:58 PM
I’m suggesting you go out tonight and buy:
(1.) Crest toothpaste;
(2.) Dental Floss;
(3.) A new toothbrush; and,
(4.) Listerine.
And then go back “home” and use all three.
Lourdes on October 28, 2010 at 9:58 PM
Ayotte–like Rossi, Fiorina–has the record and history that belongs in the US Senate. Ayotte was a good AG and won her case at the Supreme Court. As a person COD is fine, but she has done nothing in her life to merit a Senate seat. Time is very very limited right now and we should be focusing everything on Rossi, Buck, Kirk and Fiorina, not on COD.
TimTebowSavesAmerica on October 28, 2010 at 9:59 PM
“Women’s rights”= killing your baby
“Positions dangerous to women”= opposing killing babies
That’s the kind of insanity liberals operate on. No wonder you get anonymous BS like this.
TheBlueSite on October 28, 2010 at 9:59 PM
I note your focus, for starters, over time, as per your comments here.
As to the animosity you continue to *display abnormally* about O’Donnell, there’s much more there that’s bugging you than simply your desire to elect Castle, that despicable Leftwinger.
I strongly doubt my first evaluation of what’s bugging you about O’Donnell was off by much, if at all.
Lourdes on October 28, 2010 at 10:00 PM
We shouldn’t suggest dogs be so mistreated, WoosterOh, but otherwise, I agree with your sentiments.
Lourdes on October 28, 2010 at 10:02 PM
I think that RINO attacks against this woman pretty much sent a clear signal to the vile left that anything was fair game regarding her.
HondaV65 on October 28, 2010 at 10:02 PM
All four.
Lourdes on October 28, 2010 at 10:03 PM
Courage? When I think courage, I think losing a child, martyrdom, fighting cancer. Not “being genuine” on camera which, in O’D's case, is up for debate.
Bee on October 28, 2010 at 10:03 PM
What? I’ve “judged” Leftwingers as Liberals and Liberals as Leftwingers and that’s about it. So no wonder you’re all huff-and-puffy.
The thing about Conservative candidates is that they always get the Liberals who feign to be “Conservative” such as yourself and a number of others here upset.
You fool no one but yourself.
Lourdes on October 28, 2010 at 10:05 PM
Well, I never said Castle was a great candidate either…only that he probably would have had a better chance of defeating Coons. So I don’t know who’s comments you might be associating as mine.
And for the record, you are WAY off on your perceptions of me. But that’s typical of the closed-minded who etch those perceptions based on a broader stereotyping into stone for the ages.
JetBoy on October 28, 2010 at 10:06 PM
I repeat, O’Donnell has remained courageous before the public in remaining sincere as to what she believes and why.
And aren’t you glad she hasn’t had to be courageous about things like cancer? Aren’t you?
Lourdes on October 28, 2010 at 10:07 PM
That’s what I meant to say.
davidk on October 28, 2010 at 10:07 PM
The guy who played Screech on Saved by the Bell?
Good Solid B-Plus on October 28, 2010 at 10:07 PM
I know whatcha mean – it’s really annoying. Go into your history and you can click back that way…
Buy Danish on October 28, 2010 at 10:08 PM
Al Franken. Hopefully to be joined soon by Alvin Greene.
I’d still take Greene over Senatr Ma’am, though.
malclave on October 28, 2010 at 10:09 PM
Dude! How long you been savin’ that line?
davidk on October 28, 2010 at 10:10 PM
Not a very intelligent response there (I can’t ever bring myself to refer to you as “Boy” and I continue to wonder why you identify as one).
You’re as much as enthusing about Castle (and about Coons) by denigrating like a snippy woodchuck about O’Donnell. Snip, snip, snip, bite here, snip there, snip, doubts and negations, it all adds up and a good person (O’Donnell) has to contend with your harms.
Rove has been terribly wrong in his similar denigratons of O’Donnell. And it goes beyond political disagreements (which, actually, you have never identified, your complaints about O’Donnell have all been of the indeterminable personal characteristics of her, which is what my earlier and original point about your snipping was).
Being “a good candidate” or “a bad candidate” doesn’t represent serious commenting about anyone. It’s just avoidance language to grouse about someone by way of trying to hide what’s actually bugging you (or anyone who behaves similarly).
Lourdes on October 28, 2010 at 10:12 PM
“Jet”"Boy” is really hauling Liberal memes out tonight. O’Donnell has him sounding somewhat ready to make a Joy Behar walk-off.
Lourdes on October 28, 2010 at 10:14 PM
Yes. Once Denton (Gawker publisher) piles on, it’s an indication that the Left thinks it’s “funny” like Teena Fey’s work using Palin.
Lourdes on October 28, 2010 at 10:16 PM
I reserve the term “courage” for extraordinary circumstances, not behavior we should expect from all elected officials.
Bee on October 28, 2010 at 10:17 PM
This gawker hitpiece is a new low for the left.
It’s sooo damn awful, I just don’t know what to say, except that I hope Ms. O’Donnel wins and wins big.
maineconservative on October 28, 2010 at 10:18 PM
LOL!
Every so often a neat sounding line just pops in the ol’ noggin. Don’t know where it comes from haha
JetBoy on October 28, 2010 at 10:19 PM
PM
Ditto!
TheAlamos on October 28, 2010 at 10:19 PM
Jet’s not the worst, not by a longshot.
alwaysfiredup on October 28, 2010 at 10:22 PM
Sorry you don’t care for my screen-name…there’s three reasons I have it, but you wouldn’t understand.
And please, show me one instance of a “liberal meme” I’ve hauled out tonight…
Anyway, I don’t dislike you Lourdes…we bump heads, but I do appreciate your input. Cheers.
JetBoy on October 28, 2010 at 10:22 PM
When have I ever “enthused” about Castle?!?
“Snip snip sipping snip…”… wtf?
And Oh, Lawdy, O’Donnell has to contend some criticism? Poor thing…going into national politics and having to deal with “harms” of criticism. Oh, brother.
JetBoy on October 28, 2010 at 10:25 PM
This hit piece tells me
1) that Christine is ahead. They wouldn’t waste effort if she was really 21 points down.
2) she is dangerous. That’s a compliment when it comes from ones enemies.
scrubjay on October 28, 2010 at 10:30 PM
If COD wins on 11/2 THAT will be the race that sets off a live festival of SPONTANEOUS COMBUSTION on MSNBC
NOW?……The National Organization of Joy Behars?
NOW?……The National Organization of Baby Killers?
NOW?……The National Organization of Bitter Old Gals?
NOW?……The National Organization of Butcheys?
PappyD61 on October 28, 2010 at 10:31 PM
Could someone please tell me what is so awful about this woman?
I can understand why liberals dislike her, but what is wrong here that a conservative should be upset about?
sharrukin on October 28, 2010 at 10:32 PM
And Palin has distanced herself from COD (and not taking up Coons on the challenge to come and campaign for COD) and I’m not hearing ANY POLLSTER mention a win in DE, or Cali either…..but it’s still early there are what 4 more days?
PappyD61 on October 28, 2010 at 10:34 PM
Yet….infinitely better then Coons…
And yes the guys calling you a “sexist”, that’s laughable…reaching deep into the “bigot” bag for that one.
right2bright on October 28, 2010 at 10:34 PM
Saw on Michelle’s site that Absolut Vodka was a Gawker advertiser. Sent this to them:
First, your web site sucks. Find a new provider. I have a very high speed connection, and the bull shit you do to eat up band width is stupid.
Secondly, you probably won’t miss it, but you’ve lost a customer that used to buy at least a 1.75 liter bottle a month. And I have friends, and you’ll loose them too.
Advertising on Gawker may have seemed like a good idea. You’re supporting those useless pieces of shit, I won’t buy EVER buying your product again. I like Skyy better anyway.
HogsBreath on October 28, 2010 at 10:36 PM
But people are laughing at her! We don’t want someone people laugh at, it’s embarrassing!
/
alwaysfiredup on October 28, 2010 at 10:39 PM
Have you seen some of these congresscritters? Makes you wonder if people ever paid attention before casting their vote…
disa on October 28, 2010 at 10:40 PM
http://theconservativejournal.wordpress.com/2010/10/21/tcj-research-1019-1020-poll-christine-odonnell-inches-closer-to-chris-coons-in-delaware-senate-race/
Delaware Senate:
51%- (D)Chris Coons
44%- (R)Christine O’Donnell
4%- Undecided
1%- Other
This was on the 19th so she may be closer now. Even at this with Republican enthusiasm she could win.
sharrukin on October 28, 2010 at 10:42 PM
The outward attacks on O’Donnell is because she is the most vulnerable, and the least defended.
I thought for awhile that the polls were wrong…but I have come to realize that bully’s pick on the defenseless, and she has the weakest of defenders.
Only hard core Republicans, who can’t stand the thought of Coons keeping the seat defend her.
Moderate Republicans and soft conservatives could care less.
She is the one candidate that the left loves to hate…the poster candidate this year.
Every year one is chosen. It was Sarah, but she was to formidable. Quayle was one, Ron Paul is one, the left keeps jabbing until they find one that, for one reason or another, doesn’t counter effective…so they pounce. Comedians, journalists, talking heads, posters…it just becomes viral.
Me? I don’t get swept up in that garbage…I want conservatives to win every seat possible…and sort out the weak after the destruction of the democrats.
She can be controlled by other conservatives…Coons can’t.
Good or bad…she is better, so I stand with her.
right2bright on October 28, 2010 at 10:43 PM
Jetboy, your disgust for her makes you punch drunk…Boxer?
right2bright on October 28, 2010 at 10:44 PM
COD will put the icing on th cake on Nov 2. It will be a close race but COd will win 51 to 49 bank on it
unseen on October 28, 2010 at 10:45 PM
That seems to be what it comes down to. They would rather lose than be embarrassed. The Frum’s, Noonan’s, Brooks, and Kathleen Parker’s of the world are content to perpetual losers as long as they are taken semi-seriously.
sharrukin on October 28, 2010 at 10:45 PM
So your are trying to confuse her distractors with facts?
How shameful, those conservative stances will just be ignored, I mean she isn’t perfect…why she isn’t even wealthy, and she dabbled in witchcraft as a teenager…
Please, begone with your facts, they can’t be true, they seem to logical…
Don’t you understand, she doesn’t fit the senator mold that people have created in their minds…
right2bright on October 28, 2010 at 10:49 PM
I saw this in the afternoon. All I got from it was that COD doesn’t wax her bagina and the Gawker granola chick commenters were po’d that the anonymous dude was turned off by it.
di butler on October 28, 2010 at 10:51 PM
That’s what annoys me so much. They never talk about the issues, just the Gawker-lite stuff. Obviously Gawker went over the line, but most of the debate about her has been substance free for weeks.
sharrukin on October 28, 2010 at 10:52 PM
This coming from a guy best known as believing Charlie Crist was a great conservative senator prospect.
Sorry, but you have zero credibility when it comes to judging anyones fitness for office.
Norwegian on October 28, 2010 at 10:53 PM
MMA!
JetBoy on October 28, 2010 at 10:55 PM
Boy, when these Alinskyites apply their Rule 12, they sure don’t mess around.
Christine O’Donnell: THE Number One picked, frozen, personalized and polarized target of the year.
BTW, if any of you folks here feel like continuing to jump ugly on Christine for her original sin of defeating Castle, please bear in mind that, at this point in the process, you’re only helping validate Alinskyism.
FlameWarrior on October 28, 2010 at 10:59 PM
*facepalm*
SnarkVader on October 28, 2010 at 11:01 PM
Yeah, that was stupid. If there ever was a time to pretend nothing of the sort was happening, this would be it.
alwaysfiredup on October 28, 2010 at 11:05 PM
Christine O’Donnell is going to win. It’s going to be a Hollywood ending! Pretend you’re watching a movie called Gidget Goes to Washington. Starring Julia Louis-Dreyfus as Christine O’Donnell, and Jason Alexander as the villain, Coons.
Emperor Norton on October 28, 2010 at 11:05 PM
This should help her in the more liberal counties that are dependent on DuPont Industries!
Former Governor Pete du Pont Officially Endorses O’Donnell
October 25, 2010
Wilmington, DE– Former Republican Governor of Delaware Pete Du Pont has officially endorsed Christine O’Donnell, the Republican nominee for U.S. Senate.
“It is my belief that Christine O’Donnell will represent the First State honorably in the United States Senate.
“As you know, she will be seated immediately following the November 2nd election making her votes all that more important to the citizens of our state.
“It is my hope that you will support Christine, as I am, and help her campaign move forward to victory.”
sharrukin on October 28, 2010 at 11:06 PM
So did John McCain, so did lots of senators, some of them pretty disappointing. Just because this one over here is “qualified” in your eyes doesn’t make any candidate who deviates from that pattern “unqualified”.
ddrintn on October 28, 2010 at 11:10 PM
That’s not the problem. It wasn’t universally “condoned”. It was “condemned”.
SnarkVader on October 28, 2010 at 11:14 PM
Big friggin’ deal. Tweet proofreaders can be tedious.
ddrintn on October 28, 2010 at 11:20 PM
First it was condoned, and then it was condemned.
Your statement is refudiated.
Emperor Norton on October 28, 2010 at 11:23 PM
She didn’t misspell the word. She used the antonym. A true *facepalm*, but I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt that it was a staffer, not she herself who made the tweet.
Still…what a metaphor for her entire campaign. Christ.
MadisonConservative on October 28, 2010 at 11:25 PM
Uh…by whom?
MadisonConservative on October 28, 2010 at 11:25 PM
Yeah, good metaphor. Judging candidacies on tweets. I’m just not one to pore over tweets for grammatical and other errors. If others want to do that, knock yourselves out.
ddrintn on October 28, 2010 at 11:27 PM
Before it was condemned, it was silently condoned by the lack of instant criticism.
Emperor Norton on October 28, 2010 at 11:27 PM
By the way, a “true *facepalm*” would be someone not knowing what the words “condemn” and “condone” mean. Are you saying that O’Donnell REALLY doesn’t know the meanings of those words? Of course not. It’s the same old nitpicky bitchiness.
ddrintn on October 28, 2010 at 11:29 PM
LOL! Based on what I’ve read from her main media person, she could use some better staff.
alwaysfiredup on October 28, 2010 at 11:30 PM
…you have got to be kidding. What exactly is the time limit for entities to stay silent before they’re “condoning” a story, given that even Dave Weigel responded within…um…an hour?
MadisonConservative on October 28, 2010 at 11:31 PM
So sorry. I’ll remember that we shouldn’t take tweets seriously the next time posts something on Facebook that everyone loses their mind over. Social networking sites really aren’t to be taken seriously, right?
MadisonConservative on October 28, 2010 at 11:32 PM
*next time Palin posts something on Facebook…long day today.
MadisonConservative on October 28, 2010 at 11:34 PM
Coon, trying to trap Palin and gain more favor from the left, has challenged to campaign for COD at Delaware.
Palin is scheduled for COD in the last 2 days of the campaign, ready to fight out against the liberals and the home of O’Biden.
These 2 conservative women may WIN OR LOSE on this one… but HEROINES nonetheless.
TheAlamos on October 28, 2010 at 11:35 PM
Is that mistake indicative of your mental capacities? *facepalm*
ddrintn on October 28, 2010 at 11:36 PM
Ah, cute. Something interesting I’ve noticed about Scientology, and their now-infamous status as a deranged cult of personality…one of their “fair play” directives was “always attack, don’t ever defend”. Really helped them avoid uncomfortable questions about the object of their worship.
Amazing how a few supporters of politicians have adopted the exact same tactic.
MadisonConservative on October 28, 2010 at 11:41 PM
Really? And I’m a cultist of what personality? Strawman addiction is gripping you again. “If you don’t agree with me that O’Donnell is a disaster, you’re a perosnality cultist, you fooollll!!!”
Get lost.
ddrintn on October 28, 2010 at 11:45 PM
Have you ever made a criticism of O’Donnell that had anything to do with her stand on the issues, rather than a personal smear?
sharrukin on October 28, 2010 at 11:45 PM
Even Senator Lamar Alexander (R-TN) is going to Delaware to campaign for Christine O’Donnell.
Emperor Norton on October 28, 2010 at 11:47 PM
I mentioned that a few supporters adopted the same tactic. I didn’t say that you were cultists. Odd, though, how you reflexively defended against such a notion.
Oh…and she made the mistake twice, and hasn’t yet fixed the second.
I’ve never smeared her, genius. I’ve brought up her past, which I was always told was insignificant. Apparently, remarks from one candidate calling himself a “bearded Marxist” is significant, but holding open a seven million dollar gender discrimination lawsuit against a conservative thinktank for three years is insignificant. Because, you know, fiscal conservatives file those kinds of lawsuits.
MadisonConservative on October 28, 2010 at 11:49 PM
Wouldn’t have bought Absolut, anyway. Stuff is overpriced as all hell.
Good Solid B-Plus on October 28, 2010 at 11:50 PM
Got a better reason not to buy it. Never will again, myself.
MadisonConservative on October 28, 2010 at 11:51 PM
Passive-aggressive bullshit. “I’m not calling you cultists, I’m just sayin’…”
ddrintn on October 28, 2010 at 11:52 PM
Um, no, genius. What’s more significant is where they stand on the issues here and now. I couldn’t care less about the past sex lives and litigation of either.
ddrintn on October 28, 2010 at 11:53 PM
The remarks (“bearded Marxist”) your guy made are indicative of what he believes, which is socialism and that is how he voted and what he supported in Obama.
Have you ever put forth any criticism of substance on the ISSUES?
Anything at all?
sharrukin on October 28, 2010 at 11:54 PM
I said clearly that you were using the tactic, whiz kid. I’m also now going to call you delusional for seeing things that aren’t there. Quite the little victim, aren’t you? Sort of like Christine? Everything bad about her campaign is the fault of everyone but herself?
MadisonConservative on October 28, 2010 at 11:54 PM
I think she is old enough to have a 1 night stand if she wants to and it’s nobodies business whether she did or didn’t. It’s of no relevance to the election.
huckleberryfriend on October 28, 2010 at 11:56 PM
Tell ya what, bright guy. Do a little search and find me a comment of mine in which I ever extolled O’Donnell PERSONALLY. Will ya do that for us, snookums? Go get busy.
ddrintn on October 28, 2010 at 11:56 PM
It’s called not trusting her. If she’s clearly out for her own interests, and lies about things like tax liens and defaulted mortgages and prior campaign debt, how exactly are we to trust her to vote the way she says she will? If she’s willing to throw a conservative thinktank under the bus for seven million, how much to throw the rest of the conservative movement under the bus and become the next Mike Castle, hmmm?
Either you want accountability from your representatives, or you don’t. Man up and deal with the facts about candidates, and stop attacking everyone who points them out as operatives of Mike Castle or whatever other entity you ascribe criticism to.
MadisonConservative on October 28, 2010 at 11:58 PM
From what I understand, it was a non-one night stand. The guy says he never slept with her, so its even stupider than a trash story about her sex life.
sharrukin on October 28, 2010 at 11:59 PM
Hey bright guy…I just attacked her campaign, and you responded not by defending or standing up for it or her, but by attacking me and the others who notice these things. Congratulations on proving my point before I even brought it up, and proceeding to continue to prove it.
MadisonConservative on October 29, 2010 at 12:01 AM
In other words no. You have no criticism on the issues at all. Personal smearing is the entirety of what you have to say.
sharrukin on October 29, 2010 at 12:01 AM
Oooooh…attacked her campaign for the dreaded tweet flub! Ouch!
Pathetic.
ddrintn on October 29, 2010 at 12:03 AM
Yeah, it is a little childish looking for every uncrossed t and undotted i and split infinitive.
ddrintn on October 29, 2010 at 12:05 AM
Shocker. You haven’t the balls to answer my question about her dishonesty, because you know it’s a problem, and you don’t care. You’re nothing but an unthinking drone that will vote for anyone who claims to be a conservative, regardless of their past. I’ll try one last time, and then you can give up the pretense of being objective or consistent.
If Christine O’Donnell, or any candidate, lies about their troubling financial past, how can you trust them to vote the way you want?
MadisonConservative on October 29, 2010 at 12:05 AM
Too bad using an antonym of a word in two different communiques isn’t any of those.
MadisonConservative on October 29, 2010 at 12:06 AM
Did you vote for Bush in spite of his DUI and his past record of drug and alcohol use? Hmm? If you did, you must be an unthinking drone.
ddrintn on October 29, 2010 at 12:09 AM
Hmm…apparently, the *entire* blogosphere hasn’t been untied behind CoD. For some reason, the song “Cruel to be Kind” keeps running through my head whenever this subject comes up…
gryphon202 on October 29, 2010 at 12:10 AM
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