Pelosi: Things were going great for us until these outside groups started spending money

posted at 3:51 pm on October 25, 2010 by Allahpundit

Uh huh. You can fact-check her on this yourself: Go here and scroll alllllll the way down to see how long ago it was that the generic ballot started to tilt towards Republicans. Even lefty pollsters like PPP were showing a lead for the GOP as far back as August 2009. If you want to throw that poll out because it was taken at the height of anti-ObamaCare townhall fever, no problem: Gallup found the GOP ahead in November 2009 and, as you’ll see, more pollsters started to follow suit shortly thereafter. (Rasmussen, which polls only likely voters, has had Republicans ahead for ages.) Which is to say, the big red wave has been building for a long, long time, first gathering strength during the ObamaCare debacle and then racing towards shore when Recovery Summer turned into Double-Dip-ish Fall. And yet here’s Madam Speaker, fooling exactly no one with the talking point du jour. Serious question: Is this just desperate eleventh-hour excuse-making or … is she actually starting to believe it? Between this and last week’s jawdropper that she’d rather be in the Democrats’ position right now than the GOP’s, she sounds less like a spin doctor coolly doing damage control than someone trying to convince herself.

Before introducing President Barack Obama at a Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee fundraiser in Minneapolis on Saturday, Speaker Nancy Pelosi bemoaned the massive amount of money that shadowy conservative third-party groups have poured into this year’s election.

“Everything was going great and all of a sudden secret money from God knows where — because they won’t disclose it — is pouring in,” the California Democrat told about 100 donors at the fundraiser, according to a White House pool reporter in attendance.

The fundraiser, held at the 119-year-old Van Dusen Mansion on the National Register of Historic Places, was expected to raise $600,000, Democrats said. Guests dined and VIPs were greeted by Obama in a photo line for the cost of $50,000 per couple.

A Democratic strategist told Politico that conservative outside money could mean the difference between a 35-seat pick-up and a 60-seat pick-up, which nicely anticipates the liberal day-after spin to come. If the GOP nets, say, 70 seats, half of the gain will be blamed on the economy — pardon me, the “Bush-inherited” economy — and another 25 will be blamed on Karl Rove and the dirty, dirty foreigners who are bankrolling Republican PACs. And the other 10 seats? Why, that’ll be blamed on Fox News’s influence, of course. Damned Glenn Beck and his chalkboard.

Only one thing is certain, my friends: In no way will the stimulus or ObamaCare play any role in this election. Unless, of course, GOP gains are less than expected, in which case then they’ll be credited with having saved the Democrats’ majority. Speaking of which, below you’ll find another Pelosi bon mot to savor; click the image to watch and then choose the video clip titled “Pelosi on Voter Discontent.” Actual quote: “We haven’t really gotten the credit for what we have done.”

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Oil Can on October 25, 2010 at 3:53 PM

It doesn’t matter…Pelosi will never take the blame…and it doesn’t matter as long as she is gone.

right2bright on October 25, 2010 at 3:53 PM

Ever since Pelosi hit the national scene, her soundbites have always been the same: “Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.”

Jim-Rose on October 25, 2010 at 3:54 PM

They’ve obviously conference called on this meme. Obama started it the other week with the Chamber of Commerce.

INC on October 25, 2010 at 3:54 PM

outside groups = conservatives, democrats, and independents

Blake on October 25, 2010 at 3:54 PM

We have by far the worst unemployment rate in recent history.

This is like showing up for your first date with toilet paper stuck on your shoe, spinach in your teeth, bad breath and drunk.

Then saying the reason you didn’t get a second date was because you didn’t tip the waiter enough after dinner.

NoDonkey on October 25, 2010 at 3:55 PM

So there’s foreigners who likes republicans…

the_nile on October 25, 2010 at 3:55 PM

Delusional….

davek70 on October 25, 2010 at 3:55 PM

It’s amazing how the left vilifies Palin, calling her stupid. Now tell me, if SanFranGran isn’t stupid, then she’s completely delusional. She’s the modern day Baghdad Bob — “We have the Republicans completely surrounded and they’re surrendering in droves”.

I doubt she actually believes what she’s saying, but consider the nerve she has in expecting that any of us might believe it. Astonishing.

mr.blacksheep on October 25, 2010 at 3:57 PM


Pelosi: Things were going great for us until these outside groups started spending money

She’s right, y’know.

The Democratic party was in much better shape before Soros bought it.

SuperCool on October 25, 2010 at 3:57 PM

Actual quote: “We haven’t really gotten the credit for what we have done.”

Don’t worry. You will get your reward.

*stereotypical “evil villain”-chuckle*

RINO in Name Only on October 25, 2010 at 3:58 PM

Pelosi is now officially in that place in her mind where she is either totally unclear on the concept, is in a state of perpetual denial, or she is just plain nuts.

Whatever the case, one thing is certain and that is she is now 8 days away and counting from being SOL.

pilamaye on October 25, 2010 at 3:58 PM

Seems like the botox needle hit the frontal lobe this time…

catmman on October 25, 2010 at 3:58 PM

She really doesn’t think Democrats have done anything wrong.

I can’t believe this woman has power over our lives.

There is something seriously amiss with our country when worthless, stupid, incompetent and corrupt flaming a-holes like Nancy Pelosi are in power.

How in hell did this happen?

NoDonkey on October 25, 2010 at 3:59 PM

If elections could be reliably flipped with shady money, Democrats would hold every frickin’ political seat in existence.

Bat Chain Puller on October 25, 2010 at 4:00 PM

Hey, soon to be deposed Madame Speaker, what about Candidate Obama’s Campaign donations from the Gaza Strip, or Democrat donations from SEIU, etc?

kingsjester on October 25, 2010 at 4:00 PM

You want to talk money? How about coming up with a budget?

The Mega Independent on October 25, 2010 at 4:00 PM

Between this and last week’s jawdropper that she’d rather be in the Democrats’ position right now than the GOP’s, she sounds less like a spin doctor coolly doing damage control than someone trying to convince herself.

A liberal’s entire method of persuasion is based almost completely on “if you repeat a lie often enough it becomes the truth.”

There’s no question that she’s trying very hard to convince herself, and she’ll likely suceed, she’s that vapid enough.

DrAllecon on October 25, 2010 at 4:01 PM

Their made-up little stories will continue well after the election into the next one. It’s best to ignore them and start working. Broom and shovel futures are looking good.

BetseyRoss on October 25, 2010 at 4:01 PM

Seems like the botox needle hit the frontal lobe this time…

catmman on October 25, 2010 at 3:58 PM

Yes, if by “the frontal lobe”, you mean “absolutely nothing”.

The Mega Independent on October 25, 2010 at 4:01 PM

Serious question: Is this just desperate eleventh-hour excuse-making or … is she actually starting to believe it? Between this and last week’s jawdropper that she’d rather be in the Democrats’ position right now than the GOP’s, she sounds less like a spin doctor coolly doing damage control than someone trying to convince herself.

dude, I think she believes her sh!t–she’s convinced and she’s just saying what she believes. She’s a shamelessly wrong botoxed woman that is right about everything…just ask her…she’ll tell ya.

take the gavel, LTC West. Knock some sense into her.

ted c on October 25, 2010 at 4:02 PM

Stretch has taken the first step.

She’s admitting there might be a problem.

Hey Nan, that ripple you see way out on the horizon is actually not a ripple…

eyesky on October 25, 2010 at 4:02 PM

If we had an objective media she would be the laughingstock of the entire nation…IF

winston on October 25, 2010 at 4:02 PM

You want to talk money? How about coming up with a budget?

The Mega Independent on October 25, 2010 at 4:00 PM

This!

NaCly dog on October 25, 2010 at 4:03 PM

Are Carter and Pelosi having a contest to see who can be the most outlandishly delusional?

behiker on October 25, 2010 at 4:03 PM

They`ll have to call in a S.W.A.T. team to go inside Capitol Hill and pry that gavel from her hand, aren`t they?

ThePrez on October 25, 2010 at 4:03 PM

Man I want to see that gavel ripped out of this geriatric hippie’s hideous claws.

I want to see her downcast, depressed, defeated, disgraced, deflated and defecating all over her $5,000 dress.

NoDonkey on October 25, 2010 at 4:03 PM

It is now all about 2012.
How can the Democrats make it a law that for every $1 given to conservative candidates or Republicans that the same person or organization must give $2 to Democrats and liberals?

albill on October 25, 2010 at 4:04 PM

Goebbels M.O.

the_nile on October 25, 2010 at 4:05 PM

Nancy has inspired me. I am off to vote early :) Okay my husband just called me there is no waiting in line so I’m going to vote now.

Dr Evil on October 25, 2010 at 4:05 PM

Because, according to the progtards, the cure for “bad” speech is to kill it; either by banning it, or chilling the impulse by demanding groups “disclose” their donors (except for unions, of course). Remember what they did with the disclosure rules during prop 8? Oh yeah.

JeffWeimer on October 25, 2010 at 4:06 PM

Outside groups = All the families who have no homes anymore because of Pelosi and ilk’s policies. You know…they’re outside now.

JetBoy on October 25, 2010 at 4:07 PM

Liar! Liar!
Botox on fire!

Shy Guy on October 25, 2010 at 4:07 PM

Who cares how they spin a tidal wave loss? Everyone will know the truth. Unless we’re worried about Pelosi getting some sort of sympathy credit in the same way Baghdad Bob did (we felt a little sorry for his pathetic ostrich-view of the imminent invasion).

Even then, I think hardly anyone will feel sorry for Pelosi.

JonPrichard on October 25, 2010 at 4:08 PM

It’s amazing how the left vilifies Palin, calling her stupid. Now tell me, if SanFranGran isn’t stupid, then she’s completely delusional. She’s the modern day Baghdad Bob — “We have the Republicans completely surrounded and they’re surrendering in droves”.

Like Saddam’s Republican Guard?

San Fran Nan conveniently forgot about the support her Democrats got in 2006 and 2008 from “outside groups” such as the SEIU, AFSCME, UAW, ACORN, and people who signed themselves Donald Duck and Adolf Hitler on the donation website of one Barack Hussein Obama.

Must be nice riding that taxpayer-funded jet from the Capitol to the Golden Gate, and we’ll weep for you when John Boehner rides it next January. Bwahahaha….

Steve Z on October 25, 2010 at 4:08 PM

Obviously Nancy must be refering to the fact that they did’nt steal enough from the pension funds.

heshtesh on October 25, 2010 at 4:08 PM

Actually, I think she sounds like te crazy old lady with 150 cats in her apartment.

dlc2 on October 25, 2010 at 4:09 PM

AND I WOULD HAVE GOTTEN AWAY WITH IT IF IT WASN`T FOR THOSE PESKY KIDS!!

ThePrez on October 25, 2010 at 4:09 PM

I REALLY HOPE SALEM IS MAKING A FORTUNE OFF FANNIE MAE HOUSING LOWLIFE ANDREW CUOMO, BECAUSE ALL I’VE SEEN ON THIS SITE FOR THREE WEEKS ARE FACCE BRUTE CUOMO ADS. OY!

Western_Civ on October 25, 2010 at 4:09 PM

Nancy has inspired me. I am off to vote early :) Okay my husband just called me there is no waiting in line so I’m going to vote now.

Dr Evil on October 25, 2010

Dr. Evil is a chick?!! Or, err…

JonPrichard on October 25, 2010 at 4:10 PM

Given how much in denial she seems to be, I see Pelosi going out of her speaker’s position on Jan. 3 about like the way Jimmy Cagney went out at the end of “White Heat”.

jon1979 on October 25, 2010 at 4:10 PM

Thaaaaaaaaaat’s right Nancy. That’s why! Moron!!!

One of the hardest things for most people to do, is to look n the mirror, own up, man up, and admit….I f’d up.

Nancy seems to have an extreme problem. Intervention next Tuesday. ;)

capejasmine on October 25, 2010 at 4:11 PM

Yeah, just like things were going great until the Dems won congress in 2006.

I knew this was coming after hearing a report every. single. day. about the outside money on NPR. Democrats: We can only win if we suppress free speech!

JohnW on October 25, 2010 at 4:11 PM

We are working on it. I believe that our evaluation of the work you have done for the past 4 years will be delivered on November 2, 2010. Hang tight.

AgCOtter on October 25, 2010 at 4:12 PM

“Everything was going great and all of a sudden secret money from God knows where — because they won’t disclose it — is pouring in,”

She sounds like a two-bit extra in a pirate movie: “Tell us where the money is hidden!

Vashta.Nerada on October 25, 2010 at 4:12 PM

Awesome. They started this meme a few weeks ago, and since they have absolutely NOTHING else to offer; they have to stick with it. If they had anything substantial to offer independents and fence-sitters, they’d be using it.

Democrats. Have. Nothing.

stevezilla on October 25, 2010 at 4:12 PM

Eight more days, then that nag’s mug can be relegated to the trash heep of history.

Bruno Strozek on October 25, 2010 at 4:13 PM

Given how much in denial she seems to be, I see Pelosi going out of her speaker’s position on Jan. 3 about like the way Jimmy Cagney went out at the end of “White Heat”.

jon1979 on October 25, 2010 at 4:10 PM

Remember when she said “cia lies all the time” , projection.

the_nile on October 25, 2010 at 4:14 PM

The (D) after her name no longer stands for Democrat.

It stands for Desperate.

UltimateBob on October 25, 2010 at 4:14 PM

By the way….did anyone catch Nancy on Charlie Rose, yesterday?

She went on, and on about how she, and the Dems TRIED to work side by side with Republicans, but they just wouldn’t have it. I couldn’t take much more than 5 minutes of watching, or I’d have to break my tv. LOL But what a despicable woman she is.

capejasmine on October 25, 2010 at 4:14 PM

Pelosi: Things were going great for us until these outside groups started spending money

You just keep on thinking that Pelosi. Please, hold that though and the liberal agenda will keep losing elections.

It’s a rare thing when Pelosi does something I want her to.

Yakko77 on October 25, 2010 at 4:15 PM

IS it November 3rd yet?

Are we THERE yet?

DAMN!

44Magnum on October 25, 2010 at 4:15 PM

If every unemployed or underemployed American in this country would just take hold of their situation and vote against one Democrat, why, it would really make a difference.

NoDonkey on October 25, 2010 at 4:15 PM

The botox must be leaking into her brain.

evergreen on October 25, 2010 at 4:16 PM

This has been the meme for Dems forever. It’s not the policies that are hurting us, it’s (fill in the choice of the day)

a. racism
b. outside interests
c. failure to get out the message out to the voters
d. stupid voters
e. scared voters
d. all of the above

angryed on October 25, 2010 at 4:16 PM

With liberals it’s all about BS. They reject the very notion of objective reality.

When things aren’t going their way, they just increase the BS level, and they really, actually think that will fix the problem.

ZenDraken on October 25, 2010 at 4:16 PM

What really bothers her is the fact that there is still money out there somewhere that the democrats haven’t confiscated.

fourdeucer on October 25, 2010 at 4:17 PM

Serious question: Is this just desperate eleventh-hour excuse-making or … is she actually starting to believe it?

Starting …… ? ? ? ? ?

I’ve got this visual in my head – every time I see her picture I see Snidely Whiplash sneering maniacally over Poly Purebread as she is tied to the railroad tracks and a trains’ acomin.

Poly = The USA as designated in 1776
Train = Unchecked Stateism
Dudley Doright = Palin, Rubio, Angle, et ál

oldfiveanddimer on October 25, 2010 at 4:17 PM

Tea minus 8 days…and counting.

kingsjester on October 25, 2010 at 4:17 PM

“Outside Groups” = bitter clingers.

darwin on October 25, 2010 at 4:17 PM

So the unions, Media Matters, MoveOn, Think Progress, are inside groups?

John Deaux on October 25, 2010 at 4:18 PM

Things were going great until Obama said “I won”.

darwin on October 25, 2010 at 4:19 PM

San Fran Nan conveniently forgot about the support her Democrats got in 2006 and 2008 from “outside groups” such as the SEIU, AFSCME, UAW, ACORN, and people who signed themselves Donald Duck and Adolf Hitler on the donation website of one Barack Hussein Obama.

Steve Z on October 25, 2010 at 4:08 PM

Don’t forget that all-time favorite, Doodad Pro.

UltimateBob on October 25, 2010 at 4:19 PM

You want to talk money? How about coming up with a budget?

The Mega Independent on October 25, 2010 at 4:00 PM

“But, if we don’t have a budget, then we can’t have deficits. We can just keep spending money since there is no limit. Your just thilly. What? I know we’ve already been spending money like there is no limit, but there isn’t. We can just print up all the money we need. So what good is a budget anyway?” – Dem logic

catmman on October 25, 2010 at 4:20 PM

Tea minus 8 days…and counting.

kingsjester on October 25, 2010 at 4:17 PM

/likes it!!

44Magnum on October 25, 2010 at 4:20 PM

Nancy – hear that sucking noise as the waves disappear into the ocean? That’s a giant riptide forming as the TEA-NAMI grows larger and larger, sucking all of the power from under the sea, only to come ashore as a humongous wave of Democrat destruction. Botox and inflatables won’t help you now.
Equal footing sucks, doesn’t it Nan?

Yellowdog12 on October 25, 2010 at 4:20 PM

Narcissists always look for someone else to blame. It can’t possibly be their fault after all…

Grayson on October 25, 2010 at 4:22 PM

Ah, the cryptkeeper and Hussein were in Minneapolis this weekend? That explains the disturbance I felt in The Force.

IronDioPriest on October 25, 2010 at 4:22 PM

Is this just desperate eleventh-hour excuse-making or … is she actually starting to believe it?

You can’t really tell when dealing with someone who lives in an alternate reality.

Odd, all that “foreign money” didn’t appear to bother Barry during his campaign.

GarandFan on October 25, 2010 at 4:23 PM

If the Dems lose 60 plus seats in the House, Captain Kicka$$ needs to know “whose a$$ to kick” right?

DrStock on October 25, 2010 at 4:23 PM

the dirty, dirty foreigners who are bankrolling Republican PACs

Unless they come here illegally and vote Dem. Then Nancy likey.

John the Libertarian on October 25, 2010 at 4:24 PM

New Pelosi Ad Nancy Pelosi on Trial in a ‘Few Good Men’ Spoof

Nearly Nobody on October 25, 2010 at 4:24 PM

Two words…and then two more “November 2nd”.

NumberTwo on October 25, 2010 at 4:25 PM

Good heavens !
Carter, Biden and Pelosi on the same day ??
DELUSIONAL OVERLOAD !!
Guess you can throw in BillClinton while you’re at it, too.
YIKES !!
Alternate universe, I swear !!

pambi on October 25, 2010 at 4:25 PM

By “outside groups” they mean, of course, “American Citizens.”

29Victor on October 25, 2010 at 4:26 PM

Yep, the Dems thought they were right on schedule: Win control by hook or by crook, and spend that political capital building up dependent constituencies that won’t require persuasion to vote Democrat, just GOTV to get them to the polls.

Problem is, most Americans don’t want to live as milch cows for votes, living only at the sufferance of others. Oops? Yeah, oops.

Sekhmet on October 25, 2010 at 4:27 PM

So she and Joe Biden had a meeting this weekend. Got it.

unclesmrgol on October 25, 2010 at 4:29 PM

It’s Duhem-Quine time in the DNC echo chamber.

DrSteve on October 25, 2010 at 4:29 PM

Word…

d1carter on October 25, 2010 at 4:31 PM

“Everything was going great and all of a sudden secret money from God knows where — because they won’t disclose it — is pouring in,” the California Democrat told about 100 donors at the fundraiser, according to a White House pool reporter in attendance.

Yes Nancy, “God knows where” forty million aborted souls are; (at His side), thanks to the liberal mindset that promotes abortion for convenience. Why you profess to be a Catholic is astounding. And God knows you’ll be needing a few hundred days in the confessional for your sins against humanity.

“no new deficit spending.”

Cough-cough (spitting)

Rovin on October 25, 2010 at 4:31 PM

Fantasy Land Nancy is a gold mine for Republicans. They couldn’t have asked for a better example of the lunatic left. When the GOP takes her taxpayer funded jet away from her I hope they don’t forget to check under the seats for any loose bags of cash she may have left behind. They could use it to help retire the deficit!

Done That on October 25, 2010 at 4:32 PM

So let’s see if I can follow this….First a bunch of plants went to these town halls and yelled at these fine representatives, but everybody really thought Obamacare was outstanding. They continued to think that too, until all these outside groups started funding ads that smear them.

Also, Obama was going to make the world love us again, but now the world is conspiring to drive his would-be allies out of office?

stldave on October 25, 2010 at 4:32 PM

So she and Joe Biden had a meeting this weekend. Got it.

unclesmrgol on October 25, 2010 at 4:29 PM

yeah, they met at Katie’s

Rovin on October 25, 2010 at 4:33 PM

You might think that Nancy looks happy in that pic, but she’s not.
That is her permanent face now.

justltl on October 25, 2010 at 4:34 PM

Man I want to see that gavel ripped out of this geriatric hippie’s hideous claws.

I want to see her downcast, depressed, defeated, disgraced, deflated and defecating all over her $5,000 dress.

NoDonkey on October 25, 2010 at 4:03 PM

I couldn’t have said it better myself…

I still think she’ll resign her seat rather than “just be” a member of the minority party caucus…

HERE’S HOPING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Khun Joe on October 25, 2010 at 4:35 PM

If Repubs had cajones they would of been yelling this from the roof tops and in every interview, thus making the talking head like Nora O’Donnell look stupid and Obama too.

Congress makes laws and holds the purse strings.

Jan. 2008 DEFICIT……….$410 Billion
DOW…………..12,800
HOUSE…………254 D
SENATE………..57 D

lilium on October 25, 2010 at 4:39 PM

Jan. 2008 unemployment at a 2 Year high at a whopping 5%.

lilium on October 25, 2010 at 4:42 PM

Word…

d1carter on October 25, 2010 at 4:31 PM

LOL!

txhsmom on October 25, 2010 at 4:42 PM

Pelosi is the most whacked-out lady in politics that I have personally seen.

She reminds of the Great Empress of China at the time of the Boxer Rebellion.

technopeasant on October 25, 2010 at 4:42 PM

Eh . . . what’s the old bag supposed to say? We’re going to get our Dim asses handed to us on Nov. 2nd because we’re a bunch of corrupt incompetent idiots and our policies suck!

If Nan were inclined to tell the truth about things, she wouldn’t be a Dim in the first place.

AZCoyote on October 25, 2010 at 4:43 PM

D

r. Evil is a chick?!! Or, err…

JonPrichard on October 25, 2010 at 4:10 PM

Yes a Chick, and I just pulled the lever, guess for who? I am not a big Rick Perry fan…but then NPR canned Juan Williams for appearing on Fox News…Juan’s got a family to support, and kids in college. It takes these kinds of acts of tyranny to “nudge” the undecided voter in the right direction GRIN…yeah I’m a Chick and I’m Evil.

Dr Evil on October 25, 2010 at 4:44 PM

We would’ve won this election if it wasn’t for those meddling outsiders and their $200 billion dollars!

modnar on October 25, 2010 at 4:46 PM

“Everything was going great and all of a sudden secret money from God knows where — because they won’t disclose it — is pouring in,”

The ignorance here is mind boggling.

This Rosie O’donell wannabe is 100% democrat…….she is all yours lefties.

Baxter Greene on October 25, 2010 at 4:55 PM

I ran out of gas. I, I had a flat tire. I didn’t have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn’t come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from out of town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake. A terrible flood. Locusts. IT WASN’T MY FAULT, I SWEAR TO GOD!

uh-huh…

jnelchef on October 25, 2010 at 4:57 PM

“Pelosi on Voter Discontent.” Actual quote: “We haven’t really gotten the credit for what we have done.”

You will!

On November 2 2010!

DSchoen on October 25, 2010 at 4:58 PM

You want to talk money? How about coming up with a budget?

The Mega Independent on October 25, 2010 at 4:00 PM

Seriously, it is journalistic malpractice for anyone to interview this woman without asking that question! She and her entire caucus should be fired if for no other reason than they have failed to perform even their basic Constitutional duty! And I’ll bet less than 20% of voters even know it.

rockmom on October 25, 2010 at 4:59 PM

shadowy conservative third-party groups

Like that ultra-secret clandestine US Chamber of Commerce. Shhhhhhhh!

KS Rex on October 25, 2010 at 5:06 PM

yes, those nefarious outside groups, like AFSCME, with $87.5 to Democrats; “the biggest outside spender of the 2010 elections”

runner on October 25, 2010 at 5:16 PM

Can somebody tell me if money makes that much of a difference to a race how can Meg Whitman possibly be losing?

oddjob1138 on October 25, 2010 at 5:19 PM

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