Manchin: On second thought, I would have voted against ObamaCare

posted at 9:25 am on October 25, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

What a difference seven months — and an election — makes! Joe Manchin told Chris Wallace on yesterday’s Fox News Sunday that he would have voted against ObamaCare if he had taken the time to read the bill before casting a vote. A year ago, though, Manchin was cheerleading its passage, telling people that no bill is ever perfect but that the time had come to pass this particular government grab of authority. Did he bother to read the bill first before giving that advice, or was Manchin just acting as a rhetorical rubber stamp for Obama? The Daily Caller reports on the flip-flop:

In the final days before the midterm elections, Democratic Senate candidate and West Virginia Gov. Joe Manchin doubled down on his opposition to parts of the health care law, legislation he supported when it was being debated in Congress last spring.

Manchin said on “Fox News Sunday” that he would not have supported the bill if he had been made aware of everything that was in it at the time. While he still fully supports “the concept” of the health care overhaul, he called the final product “overreaching,” citing the new tax mandate on businesses and the lack of protection against government-subsidized abortions.

“Knowing that, I would not have supported that or voted for that at that time,” he said.

Manchin added that he still supports parts of the bill that halt insurance companies from discriminating against customers with pre-existing conditions and the ability for young people to stay on their parents’ health care plan until they are 26-years-old.

“There’s a lot of good parts to it,” he added. “Why don’t we fix what’s wrong with it and make it better?”

Here’s Manchin a year ago, giving the argument that we needed to pass a bill that he apparently never bothered to read:

Put aside for the moment Manchin’s desire to leave the bill in place and nibble around its edges. Before he ran for the Senate, Manchin campaigned for ObamaCare’s package — and now he claims not to have read the bill or known about its taxes and mandates. That’s not the actions of an independent thinker, but of a mindless partisan. Those taxes and mandates were hardly hidden in the bill; anyone at all informed of the bill’s components knew them well. All Manchin had to do was pick up a newspaper and find out, for instance, that a significant group of Democrats had held up the bill over the federal funding of abortion coverage.

Either Manchin is lying, or he’s nothing but a tool for Democrats. West Virginians should avoid putting Manchin in the Senate and finding out the hard way which is true.


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Yeah, Manchin sounded pretty dumb with the “I would have voted for a bill I didn’t understand, but now that I understand it, I would regret having voted for it.”

WV needs a senator that’s paying attention to what they’re doing. It’s been an awfully long time since they’ve had one.

Pablo on October 25, 2010 at 9:29 AM

Either Manchin is lying, or he’s nothing but a tool for Democrats.

Or both.

forest on October 25, 2010 at 9:30 AM

Lying…Tool for Democrats… is there a difference?

IronDioPriest on October 25, 2010 at 9:30 AM

How about we administer a test on the contents of every new bill before congress, if you fail the test you cant vote, problem solved.

Daveyardbird on October 25, 2010 at 9:31 AM

he would have voted against ObamaCare if he had taken the time to read the bill before casting a vote

Isn’t there something in the constitution about……

ah..never mind.

Skandia Recluse on October 25, 2010 at 9:31 AM

I wonder how the liberal base is holding up? I know it’s not too big in WV, but is there anything else Manchin can do to depress his base turnout?

forest on October 25, 2010 at 9:33 AM

Hey, Joe Manchin , how about some Waffles for breakfast?

pilamaye on October 25, 2010 at 9:34 AM

I love the smell of desperation in the morning…it smells like VICTORY!

ladyingray on October 25, 2010 at 9:34 AM

And these are supposedly the adults?

rbj on October 25, 2010 at 9:34 AM

He’s paid huge money to read bills and vote on them. What’s his problem. All you need to know about him is that he won’t take responsibility for doing his own job rather he depends on others to “tell him what’s in it”. What a fool. Lots of luck to W. Virginia.

Mojave Mark on October 25, 2010 at 9:34 AM

There are atheists in foxholes and no Progressives in the Midterm Elections (or at least any that will admit it).

kingsjester on October 25, 2010 at 9:35 AM

Don’t buy a used car from this guy.

Really Right on October 25, 2010 at 9:35 AM

Awwwww, he didn’t find $20 on the dresser when he woke up?

hoosiermama on October 25, 2010 at 9:36 AM

Either Manchin is lying, or he’s nothing but a tool for Democrats.

Tool + lying = democrat

Its not an either/or type of question. Proper phrasing would have been;

Either Manchin is a garden variety democrat (in which case, he’s a lying tool) or he’s an illiterate dummy with Reid’s hand up his back

Manchin must have followed along with Pelosi’s thinking that he’d learn what was in the bill AFTER he voted for it…

Geministorm on October 25, 2010 at 9:38 AM

Either Manchin is lying, or he’s nothing but a tool for Democrats.

Does it have to be either/or? I vote for both.

BacaDog on October 25, 2010 at 9:38 AM

All many of us needed to know about Obamacare legislation to make us hate it was the fact the Democrats and Obama wanted it.

Knowing a shite sandwich is full of shite doesn’t make it taste any better going down…

catmman on October 25, 2010 at 9:39 AM

Or just your run of the mill, Democrat Pu$$y, going through life scared of their own core beliefs.

MNHawk on October 25, 2010 at 9:39 AM

Awwwww, he didn’t find $20 on the dresser when he woke up?

hoosiermama on October 25, 2010 at 9:36 AM

Did you mean “$2.00″ instead of $20.00? Since it would appear to be the performance of a $2.00 …um…street-walker?

oldleprechaun on October 25, 2010 at 9:40 AM

How about we administer a test on the contents of every new bill before congress, if you fail the test you cant vote, problem solved.

Daveyardbird on October 25, 2010 at 9:31 AM

How about we administer a test on the contents of every new bill before congress, if you fail the test you cant automatically vote against, problem solved.

FIFY!

belad on October 25, 2010 at 9:40 AM

Is he related to Charlie Crist?

darwin on October 25, 2010 at 9:41 AM

If I had read the drug label, I’d have never injected it into the patient. Sorry bout that.

If you vote for crap like this, own it. He’s basically saying he’s incompetent to do the job he’s applying for.

Asher on October 25, 2010 at 9:41 AM

That blurb on Jon Stewart’s show a few weeks ago is prescient, except for the party.

It won’t be a Republican saying “Vote for me and I will bunch president Obama in the balls!”, it’s going to be a Democrat.

NoDonkey on October 25, 2010 at 9:42 AM

That blurb on Jon Stewart’s show a few weeks ago is prescient, except for the party.

It won’t be a Republican saying “Vote for me and I will punch president Obama in the balls!”, it’s going to be a Democrat.

NoDonkey on October 25, 2010 at 9:42 AM

Like Slick Willie said about Byrd at his funeral, he was lying because that was the only way he could get elected. Are the demorats really that simple-minded? Manchin is only reinforcing they are.

volsense on October 25, 2010 at 9:44 AM

Then after the election Manchin will then say, “April Fools!”

albill on October 25, 2010 at 9:49 AM

A rubber stamp and a flip flopper is a twofer.

Kissmygrits on October 25, 2010 at 9:51 AM

Either Manchin is lying
, or and he’s nothing but a tool for Democrats.

Yes and Yes. I watched this nifty little tap-dance on a landmine yesterday, and was quite amused.

CantCureStupid on October 25, 2010 at 9:52 AM

How about we administer a test on the contents of every new bill before congress, if you fail the test you cant vote, problem solved.

Daveyardbird on October 25, 2010 at 9:31 AM

How about we administer a test on the contents of every new bill before congress, if you fail the test you cant automatically vote against, problem solved.

FIFY!

belad on October 25, 2010 at 9:40 AM

How about we administer a test on the contents of every new bill before congress, if you fail the test you cant automatically vote against are thrown out of Congress for good, problem solved. Maybe throw a little jail time in for malfeasance.

Better fix still.

RickZ on October 25, 2010 at 9:52 AM

Awwwww, he didn’t find $20 on the dresser when he woke up?

hoosiermama on October 25, 2010 at 9:36 AM

What an awful insinuation. I’ll have you know that I am familiar with Joe Manchin and I have never known him to put out that cheaply.

Extrafishy on October 25, 2010 at 9:53 AM

Now that is a flat lie and he knows that reversing himself is the only way to save his election. You are toast Mr. Manchin

hawkman on October 25, 2010 at 9:54 AM

Just another Charlie Crist, say what you think the populous wants to hear to get elected, then do what you want after election day.

Fool some of the people ALL of the time, maybe enough fools to get elected.

belad on October 25, 2010 at 9:56 AM

RickZ on October 25, 2010 at 9:52 AM

Excellent!

belad on October 25, 2010 at 9:58 AM

Democrats always become caring, thoughtful listeners when they’re running for office.

The Mega Independent on October 25, 2010 at 10:02 AM

Either Manchin is lying, or he’s nothing but a tool for Democrats.
Or both.

forest on October 25, 2010 at 9:30 AM

I second that. It’s definitely both!

Give this man a seat in the Senate, and I guarantee, he won’t be able to help himself. He’ll go lock step with the Dems agenda. Because it’s his agenda too.

capejasmine on October 25, 2010 at 10:03 AM

How about we administer a test on the contents of every new bill before congress, if you fail the test you cant vote, problem solved.

Daveyardbird on October 25, 2010 at 9:31 AM

Because the Democrats would just cheat on the test.

fossten on October 25, 2010 at 10:04 AM

Another pro-abortion Catholic pretends otherwise? It’s almost as if he lived in…New England.

Don L on October 25, 2010 at 10:07 AM

Manchin: ObamaCare is great!

Aide: Psst, governor, most West Virginians hate it and want it repealed.

Manchin: Oh

Manchin: ObamaCare is horrible and must be repealed!!!

darwin on October 25, 2010 at 10:07 AM

How about we administer a test on the contents of every new bill before congress, if you fail the test you cant vote, problem solved.

Daveyardbird on October 25, 2010 at 9:31 AM
Because the Democrats would just cheat on the test.

fossten on October 25, 2010 at 10:04 AM

…or ‘deem’ themselves to have passed it.

fossten on October 25, 2010 at 10:07 AM

And on that crisp, clear note, let the voters of West Virginia have a clarifying moment. He’s a Democrat, and therefore a liar and an idiot. His first instinct is to support this most absurdly leftist party and to add on new Federal entitlements which will cripple our economy for decades, until we collapse onto the junkpile of once great societies, bankrupt and defenseless.

Mountaineers, if you have any balls and self-respect left, dump this putz — or leave him chaste in the Governor’s mansion to reflect upon recent history — and put someone in the office who can figure out simple votes the first time around.

Jaibones on October 25, 2010 at 10:09 AM

He needs a tan.

44Magnum on October 25, 2010 at 10:23 AM

He’s a Democrat, and therefore a liar and an idiot.

I am glad that the American people, as a whole are increasingly recognizing this simple, undeniably accurate truth.

No thinking adult American should even slightly consider voting for a Democrat in this election.

NoDonkey on October 25, 2010 at 10:26 AM

Is he related to Charlie Crist?

darwin on October 25, 2010 at 9:41 AM

Nope. He’s related to John Kerry

mizflame98 on October 25, 2010 at 10:28 AM

Manchin: “Chris, I’m taking whatever position will get me elected today.”

BuckeyeSam on October 25, 2010 at 10:30 AM

Pelosi and Reid had them all by the short hairs, going back in time wouldn’t change that.

Speakup on October 25, 2010 at 10:33 AM

BuckeyeSam on October 25, 2010 at 10:30 AM

I’ve got a position for him – left out.

NoDonkey on October 25, 2010 at 10:37 AM

WOW!

But this guy has a long list of credentials as lawmaker!

And look how he does things as a lawmaker: LIKE A USEFUL IDIOT.

Common, guys. Let us start voting “ONE OF US” and not the kind of this egomaniac individual.

TheAlamos on October 25, 2010 at 10:39 AM

These guys remind me of a thug who goes on a crime spree and then finds himself chastened and standing before the Judge. Stammering and studdering he confesses his wrongdoing and promises he will stick to the straight and narrow from now on.

Later, he clobbers an old lady for her purse while out on parole.

kurtzz3 on October 25, 2010 at 10:39 AM

I hope West Virginians see through this shameless flip flop…. A Democrat is a Democrat and will lie and say anything to get elected or stay in office. I hope West Virginians don’t forget the arrogance and F you attitude of the Democrats as we yelled at the top of our lungs all over this coutry that we didn’t want Obamacare and the Democrats rammed it down our throats anyway! Please WV don’t trust a Democrat!

I’d love to see an ad with Clinton saying Byrd had to lie to get elected, then the part of the first clip where Manchin is praising Obamacare and then the part in the second clip where he is sayiig he’d vote against it…

CCRWM on October 25, 2010 at 10:41 AM

It’s tool late, Manchin. That ship has sailed.

dogsoldier on October 25, 2010 at 10:53 AM

Shorter Manchin:

Those are my principles. If you don’t like them I have others.
-Groucho Marx

Anything to ‘win’ makes you willing to say anything, do anything, promise anything to anyone… and means that you can be bought as you have no principles beyond seeking power. People like this need to be denied their power fix.

ajacksonian on October 25, 2010 at 11:15 AM

Manchin: I would have voted for the $938 billion before I would have voted against it.

John Kerry on steroids!

Steve Z on October 25, 2010 at 11:20 AM

I’d love to see an ad with Clinton saying Byrd had to lie to get elected, then the part of the first clip where Manchin is praising Obamacare and then the part in the second clip where he is sayiig he’d vote against it…

CCRWM on October 25, 2010 at 10:41 AM

Clinton? Clinton would never touch this issue! Both Clintons remember that HillaryCare lost the House for them in 1994–they don’t want to remind the voters now. All through the ObamaCare debate, we didn’t hear a peep about it from Hillary…

Steve Z on October 25, 2010 at 11:27 AM

West Virginians are aware of this, big time. The WV tea parties have been spreading the word. Hopefully enough of them will vote for John Raese. Manchin has a huge problem after the election as he has been Obamacare 24/7 since it was passed. He is going to be left in the governorship and will have to make good on his promise of getting rid of it in WV. We’ll see if he keeps his promise.
There will be tea parties holding his feet to the fire.

BetseyRoss on October 25, 2010 at 11:27 AM

Good stuff. BTW: That “Jim” guy on the panel (who is against Obamacare) is course is the RINO Republican Guv of Vermont.

So here you got Manchin (representing conservative WV) trying to convince a RINO from the People’s Republic of VT that Obamacare is all good. LOL!

The guy is worse than Charlie Crist. Well…. Maybe not.

kevinkristy on October 25, 2010 at 11:30 AM

Manchin: “I would have voted for the bill, before I voted against it.”

ConservativePartyNow on October 25, 2010 at 12:01 PM

Just doing what he does best: Manchin-ups in the gutter.

ya2daup on October 25, 2010 at 12:08 PM

WEST VIRGINIA: don’t let me down!!

Khun Joe on October 25, 2010 at 4:50 PM