Krauthammer to Nina Totenberg: Why did NPR fire Juan Williams but not you?

posted at 7:30 pm on October 23, 2010 by Allahpundit

He’s too much of a mensch to mention her most notorious bon mot, about Jesse Helms — or one of his grandkids — maybe deserving a little AIDS in the ol’ bloodstream as a matter of divine justice. I think they both have that quote in mind here, though, which explains why Totenberg is palpably uncomfortable with NPR’s sudden sticklerism about “analysts” offering controversial opinions in public. In fact, near as I can tell, not a single member of NPR thus far has been willing to call Williams’s firing an unvarnished triumph. And that includes the dummy responsible for the now infamous line about him maybe needing to consult with his shrink:

Even NPR’s own staff expressed exasperation at the decision during a meeting Friday with NPR’s president, Vivian Schiller. Several of those who attended said Schiller told employees that she regretted how she handled the episode…

In a meeting with employees that had been scheduled before the Williams story broke, Schiller acknowledged that NPR didn’t manage the firing well, but offered no specifics. She said NPR would conduct a “post-mortem” next week to review how the firing was handled, according to employees who attended the meeting, which was closed to the news media. Schiller didn’t say who would handle the review or what the consequences of it might be…

“There wasn’t anger” among NPR employees at the meeting, “but I did get a sense of despair and disappointment,” said one NPR journalist, who asked not to be named because employees are not authorized to speak on the record about the matter. “I got the impression that [management] felt they had acted rashly and without deliberation. When [Schiller] made the psychiatrist crack, it just made matters much, much worse.”

Schiller reiterated the company line about Williams violating journalistic ethics in an interview with the Times (in which she also insisted that NPR is sometimes accused of … catering to conservatives), then went on to say that the board of directors is completely behind the decision to fire him. Is that right? Hmmm:

“I agree with the principle, but am not happy with the execution,” Robert Gordon, an NPR board member and president of Nashville Public Radio, said after Williams was fired over comments about Muslims that he made on Fox News.

“The execution was very poorly timed. You have a lot of stations who are in fund drive mode now and that’s making it difficult.”…

“I’ve gotten a lot of calls and a lot of e-mails, and in fact, more than we’ve gotten about anything else,” Gordon said. “We’ve had a few people make donations in support of the decision, but more decided not to support us.”

I wouldn’t worry if I were him; as Jesse Walker reminds us, GOP threats to defund public broadcasting are evergreen but never go anywhere. Then again, this time could be different for the reason Andy McCarthy says: If the new tea party Congress doesn’t have the guts to pull the plug on NPR, how will they ever have the guts to defund ObamaCare? Exit question: Is NPR about to become a test case of Republican mettle among the base? Click the image to watch.


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NPR acted stupidly.

SlaveDog on October 23, 2010 at 7:34 PM

I love Charles! NPR’s hypocrisy is just breath-taking here. Nina tried to sweep it all away by saying that times are changing, but it doesn’t wash.

MochaLite on October 23, 2010 at 7:37 PM

Perhaps Dr. K should have insisted that Nina “leave the room”.

turfmann on October 23, 2010 at 7:39 PM

He’s too much of a mensch to mention her most notorious bon mot, about Jesse Helms

Why ? When he couldn’t give O’Donnell the same humane treatment. Why the kid gloves with criminals.

the_nile on October 23, 2010 at 7:39 PM

Here’s a hint for the GOP: this isn’t one of the times that you have to “work with the other side” just get rid of this progressive, publicly funded, garbage. You should cut NPR off the government teat too.

Weight of Glory on October 23, 2010 at 7:40 PM

Juan is black and off the plantation, while Nina is white and on the plantation.

NaCly dog on October 23, 2010 at 7:40 PM

When blacks get uppity, we don’t just talk, we take action -NPR

18-1 on October 23, 2010 at 7:41 PM

Oh, and if you are going to talk about Totenberg, why not the fact she and Metzenbaum illegally leaked Hill’s accusation? Without Totenberg committing a crime, there would never have been a Hill-Thomas hearing…

18-1 on October 23, 2010 at 7:43 PM

Tongue in cheek but not too firmly: Does anyone think that Media Matters and the left in general would have been upset had Williams opined in the pages of Granma?

This is mostly all about Fox News and the left’s paranoia about that network. It is simply astonishing how much they detest it. A small part is that Williams didn’t always toe the liberal line. And independent thinking black American is simply not allowed for many on the left.

SteveMG on October 23, 2010 at 7:43 PM

Why ? When he couldn’t give O’Donnell the same humane treatment. Why the kid gloves with criminals.

the_nile on October 23, 2010 at 7:39 PM

He’s a full-time creature of DC.

He has his limits.

artist on October 23, 2010 at 7:43 PM

“The execution was very poorly timed. You have a lot of stations who are in fund drive mode now and that’s making it difficult.”…

Well Mr. Gordon, seems you don’t have that excuse to fall back on anymore.

fourdeucer on October 23, 2010 at 7:43 PM

The day is coming when people will be fired for what they think about the issues of the day… Hind sight working well today!

RalphyBoy on October 23, 2010 at 7:44 PM

WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING TO THIS WEBSITE (post-Townhall purchase)?! Now I get an ad that blocks the first couple of paragraphs WITHOUT the option of CLOSING it, even after visiting the so-called OPTIONAL ad site.

SCREW HOT AIR IF THIS IS THE NEW NORMAL HERE.

Lockstein13 on October 23, 2010 at 7:46 PM

Gee, I really want to hear from Julianne (I hope Clarence Thomas gets heart disease and dies) Malveaux and get her perspective.

azkag on October 23, 2010 at 7:46 PM

Notice the complete lack of principle? NPR is not worried about the sacking, per se, only the effect on donations!

OldEnglish on October 23, 2010 at 7:46 PM

Yikes. Sleaze hack Totenberg is morphing into Cindy Sheenan but with a fancy hair stylist and no war hero as a son.

“The execution [of Williams] was poorly timed.” Execution. I’ll say.

viking01 on October 23, 2010 at 7:47 PM

Got to hand it to CK..He handed Nina and crew their A$$..:)

Dire Straits on October 23, 2010 at 7:47 PM

Perhaps Dr. K should have insisted that Nina “leave the room”.

turfmann on October 23, 2010 at 7:39 PM

HEY! She’s one of the GROWN UPS, you dont treat SERIOUS people that way…

the_nile on October 23, 2010 at 7:50 PM

Colby King appears to not only be an absolute moron who cannot string two words together coherently, but also, like Totenberg, a coward for refusing to call NPR out. Just imagine if Fox had fired Williams for calling the Tea Party racist? They would be calling for heads at Fox and claiming it was racism to fire a black.

federale86 on October 23, 2010 at 7:52 PM

Editors – I am viewing this from my iPhone and there is in fact an unclosable ad that is partially blocking this article. Please fix this.

jam550 on October 23, 2010 at 7:54 PM

Juan is black and off the plantation, while Nina is white and on the plantation.

NaCly dog on October 23, 2010 at 7:40 PM

Not sure Juan has wandered off the Dem plantation, but what he has yet to realize is that he no longer belongs to the most precious, protected minority. When he does, along with the rest of the brothers and sisters, all hell is going to break loose.

CAIR has learned well and taken over the victim, race/religion pimping game. Jesse, Al, et al are going to be really chuffed, but that’s the way it goes. It’s very profitable, and it’s called legal rape.

There’s something ugly brewing here, and it won’t be pretty. Guess who’s right in the middle of it? Not good.

Cody1991 on October 23, 2010 at 7:54 PM

federale86 on October 23, 2010 at 7:52 PM

Excellent post..This is like playing twister..It is not hard to learn at all..:)

Dire Straits on October 23, 2010 at 7:55 PM

If the new tea party Congress doesn’t have the guts to pull the plug on NPR, how will they ever have the guts to defund ObamaCare?

That right there is a pretty darn good question.

BowHuntingTexas on October 23, 2010 at 7:56 PM

Notice the complete lack of principle? NPR is not worried about the sacking, per se, only the effect on donations!

OldEnglish on October 23, 2010 at 7:46 PM

Exactly, and for the local stations to be afraid of being adamant about the firing they resort to

“I agree with the principle, but am not happy with the execution,” Robert Gordon,

fourdeucer on October 23, 2010 at 7:56 PM

Yeah, Nina says she sometimes has an opinion that she doesn’t feel comfortable expressing…. well, I’d ask, what opinion might that be Nina? If this opinion is so offensive than perhaps you are a closet bigot? NPR deserves to know!

The next step in the attack on free speech will be to attack free thought. If your thoughts are so offensive that you must keep them hidden and suppressed, than why have them at all? Hidden opinions surely must be evil opinions. Hidden thoughts surely must be evil thoughts.

JellyToast on October 23, 2010 at 7:56 PM

I keep seeing people talk about this ad thing. I never see them, never. Must be something wrong with my browser.

Oldnuke on October 23, 2010 at 7:57 PM

A leftard public radio network is the most frivolous and useless of any federal expediture that I can think of, and that’s saying a lot. (Education Department, I’m looking at you.) If NPR is not defunded post haste once the GOP has control of Congress, then the GOP is useless too. A third party will become inevitable, and the GOP will have sown the seeds of its own extinction.

Cicero43 on October 23, 2010 at 7:57 PM

Ok. Really. This Bloomberg ad is RIDICULOUS.

lansing quaker on October 23, 2010 at 7:58 PM

I keep seeing people talk about this ad thing. I never see them, never. Must be something wrong with my browser.

Oldnuke on October 23, 2010 at 7:57 PM

Everyone doesn’t get the same ads.

the_nile on October 23, 2010 at 8:01 PM

Here is a tip for hotair WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange walked out of an interview with CNN in London.

Nearly Nobody on October 23, 2010 at 8:02 PM

SCREW HOT AIR IF THIS IS THE NEW NORMAL HERE.

Lockstein13 on October 23, 2010 at 7:46 PM

Use Firefox with Adblock Plus, or use Privoxy.

Anyway, it’s obvious that Totenberg was safe because she was just repeating the party line.

ddrintn on October 23, 2010 at 8:03 PM

Ok. Really. This Bloomberg ad is RIDICULOUS.

lansing quaker on October 23, 2010 at 7:58 PM

Have you tried using the Dashboard feature of Hot Air?..:)

Dire Straits on October 23, 2010 at 8:03 PM

Everyone doesn’t get the same ads.

the_nile on October 23, 2010 at 8:01 PM

I don’t get any.

Oldnuke on October 23, 2010 at 8:03 PM

Ok. Really. This Bloomberg ad is RIDICULOUS.

lansing quaker on October 23, 2010 at 7:58 PM

Firefox with AdBlock Plus, or Chrome with AdLocker will make it go away.

sharrukin on October 23, 2010 at 8:04 PM

Anyway, it’s obvious that Totenberg was safe because she was just repeating the party line.

ddrintn on October 23, 2010 at 8:03 PM

I find it curious, not surprising, just curious that no one’s actually tried to justify her remarks. They just avoid the issue altogether. Even when asked directly.

Oldnuke on October 23, 2010 at 8:06 PM

But watch NPR offer to hire Williams back. And Williams will refuse.

ddrintn on October 23, 2010 at 8:07 PM

Has the CAIR involvement with the firing of Juan Williams bothered anyone else? Soro’s money is one thing but the CAIR issue is down right scarey.

fourdeucer on October 23, 2010 at 8:08 PM

I find it curious, not surprising, just curious that no one’s actually tried to justify her remarks. They just avoid the issue altogether. Even when asked directly.

Oldnuke on October 23, 2010 at 8:06 PM

Well, being a lib means never having to say you’re sorry for anything. As everyone knows, conservatives should all die in a fire.

ddrintn on October 23, 2010 at 8:09 PM

And as far as I know that “Tea Bag” cartoon is still at the NPR website. I guess some people are more legit targets than others.

ddrintn on October 23, 2010 at 8:10 PM

I’ve been seeing that ad and complaints at least for a couple hours and I’m sure the guys are working on it. SO calm down. I remember recently some “scripts error” where every page took forever to load and I got “we’re aborting your scripts” or something messages in pop ups I had to close like three times. Ed sent me an email that said “we KNOW we KNOW” and it was resolved.

Marcus on October 23, 2010 at 8:11 PM

“journalistic ethics”… LOL

RedbonePro on October 23, 2010 at 8:13 PM

Obviously it was just CK trying to point out that NPR is a bunch of commie hypocrites. I don’t see them offering JW his job back… Wait Juan’s initials… JW… JEW… Ahhh that’s why they fired him. It’s so clear now!

The Expert Knows
http://theexpertsblog.blogspot.com

HotAirExpert on October 23, 2010 at 8:14 PM

Has the CAIR involvement with the firing of Juan Williams bothered anyone else? Soro’s money is one thing but the CAIR issue is down right scarey.

fourdeucer on October 23, 2010 at 8:08 PM

It bothers me, but I’m not surprised. See my post above @ 7:54 PM

BO has divided loyalties. He plays all sides. Soros is Big Daddy, and that’s why Zip didn’t stick his toe into the mess. BO is also sympathetic and tied into NOI which makes things messier. I’ll end my comments here, and you can fill in the blanks.

Cody1991 on October 23, 2010 at 8:15 PM

employees are not authorized to speak on the record about the matter.

“As you are well aware, Comrade Williams is now a non-person…”

ddrintn on October 23, 2010 at 8:15 PM

“I agree with the principle, but am not happy with the execution,” Robert Gordon, an NPR board member and president of Nashville Public Radio, said after Williams was fired over comments about Muslims that he made on Fox News.

“The execution was very poorly timed. You have a lot of stations who are in fund drive mode now and that’s making it difficult.”…

So this translates as he wishes they’d canned Juan Williams just long enough AFTER the fund drive ended for the checks to clear. That way maybe people would cool down and forget about this crummy act before the next Begathon started.

Jill1066 on October 23, 2010 at 8:17 PM

I’m blessed not to have the Bloomberg ad problem though often endure a “Content Encoding Error” only at HA. Sometimes when rubiconproject and scorecardresearch are particularly aggressive that’ll crash my browser (Firefox) too.

viking01 on October 23, 2010 at 8:17 PM

So this translates as he wishes they’d canned Juan Williams just long enough AFTER the fund drive ended for the checks to clear. That way maybe people would cool down and forget about this crummy act before the next Begathon started.

Jill1066 on October 23, 2010 at 8:17 PM

“Yes ,our fault, we should have killed the witness too”

the_nile on October 23, 2010 at 8:18 PM

NPR will probably devote an upcoming 2 minute hate to Juan Williams. I wonder if Juan will be frequenting the Chestnut Tree Cafe sometime soon?

Oldnuke on October 23, 2010 at 8:19 PM

Hmmmm….All the top brass at NPR are female.
Could that be the reason why Nina didn’t get fired and Juan did?

centre on October 23, 2010 at 8:22 PM

not a single member of NPR thus far has been willing to call Williams’s firing an unvarnished triumph

You don’t know the half of it. NPR’s On The Media is usually their most obviously leftist show, as a media watchdog which somehow manages to find more right-wing influence on the media than left. But today they did a pretty good job on the Juan Williams story, picking up something from the William Saletan Slate article many of us probably missed, those of us who didn’t read beyond the unfair Shirley Sherrod comparison: ThinkProgress got the ball rolling on calling for Williams’ firing by intentionally selectively editing Williams’ comments to make them appear worse than they were.

The blog’s sponsoring organization, the Center for American Progress, was characterized by Time Magazine, in its closeness to Obama as follows: “not since the Heritage Foundation helped guide Ronald Reagan’s transition in 1981 has a single outside group held so much sway.” And of course Soros is a major donor and they were the originator of the Chamber of Commerce smears. But it’s also worthwhile to mention that NPR’s Fresh Air, in covering the Chamber story prior to its use by Obama and debunking by the Times, presented ThinkProgress as a straightforward reporting organization, not a left-wing blog. Visitors to NPR’s website would see that it was indeed a left-wing blog, but radio and podcast listeners wouldn’t have a clue. This was actually the first of a series of actions this month which saw NPR sink to new lows

Curiously, NPR’s On The Media didn’t go deeper into the more recent statements by NPR, and, without a trace of irony, said that NPR wouldn’t respond to requests for comment.

calbear on October 23, 2010 at 8:22 PM

Why did Colby King get away with that canard re the OK bomber acting as a Christian? How clueless are these people?

Totenberg cannot spin her way out of the nonsensical NPR decision.

onlineanalyst on October 23, 2010 at 8:23 PM

Big government Krauthammer sometimes gets things right.

True_King on October 23, 2010 at 8:24 PM

Cody1991 on October 23, 2010 at 8:15 PM

Thanks, CAIR was instrumental in getting Mike Savage taken off the air in Great Britain I believe and no one came to his defence like they have Juan Williams.

fourdeucer on October 23, 2010 at 8:26 PM

I won’t let this go, get stale, or fade away.
Let NPR find their own funding, and not from my dime.

Kini on October 23, 2010 at 8:29 PM

You know…

… the last time I watched PBS, it was forty years ago and I was in the first grade.

I see it hasn’t changed much…

Seven Percent Solution on October 23, 2010 at 8:29 PM

Perhaps Dr. K should have insisted that Nina “leave the room”.

turfmann on October 23, 2010 at 7:39 PM

Oh, that’s unfair. When Krauthammer is right, he is a good, persuasive ally to have. To his credit, his tea-party-bashing has been few and between, only occasional column here and there (I only remember the one against “death-panel” comment and perhaps another against O’Donnell), and he doesn’t try to keep them in focus as attention-whore McCain (M. McCain, not J. McCain) does all the time.

novakyu on October 23, 2010 at 8:31 PM

re: schiller

she also insisted that NPR is sometimes accused of … catering to conservatives

Yeah, I saw that bit too. They have made that claim a couple of times and perhaps it is true.

Question: How far left do you have to go before NPR becomes too conservative?

It is a reflection of just how far left their audience veers, not evidence that they are in any way objective.

novaculus on October 23, 2010 at 8:34 PM

novakyu on October 23, 2010 at 8:31 PM

Are you freakin kidding me?! Charles Krauthammer was among the most outspoken Republican O’Donnell detractors out there! If you tell me where your cave is, I’ll come live in it with you. You must be lonely.

gryphon202 on October 23, 2010 at 8:36 PM

For everyone’s information, Jesse Helms has a lesbian granddaughter, who to my knowledge he did not disown her. And, she was/and still maybe politically active.

http://atheism.about.com/b/2004/10/30/jesse-helms-gay-granddaughter-uses-him-for-election-advantage.htm

I am gay and consider myself conservative. And, Helms is not someone whom I admire.

SC.Charlie on October 23, 2010 at 8:38 PM

Has anybody asked Ibrahim Hooper if he’s glad Williams was let go, or has he pronounced a sharia law resolution?

How is it Islam, in this country can do anything, say anything, cause as much personal harm as any of its practitioners feel like, but pointing out a personal fear is unacceptable to that same movement?

Speakup on October 23, 2010 at 8:39 PM

There’s something ugly brewing here, and it won’t be pretty. Guess who’s right in the middle of it? Not good.

Cody1991 on October 23, 2010 at 7:54 PM

My take is that there is no scientific reason for any preferences. In a world than knows about single nucleotide polymorphisms and developmental gene-expression, there is one human race. Today’s Dems are racist 19th century slave-masters that want all blacks to think alike, or at least not go where another reality (Fox News) exists.

Culture is what we should be talking about, and which party reinforces failure by handing out vapid excuses?

The culture of NPR is Left, i.e. scientifically backward, with the best 19th century philosophy dressed up in 20th century oppression.
And CAIR wants the 7th century to reappear, which is even more backward than the Left. Help Muslims adapt to the 21st century — todays prayer to the supreme Deity of your choice, or the Flying Spaghetti Monster, for those of that persuasion.
/rant

NaCly dog on October 23, 2010 at 8:39 PM

“The execution was very poorly timed. You have a lot of stations who are in fund drive mode now and that’s making it difficult.”

Honest defense of “principle” should never depend on proper timing.

pjean on October 23, 2010 at 8:40 PM

How is it Islam, in this country can do anything, say anything, cause as much personal harm as any of its practitioners feel like, but pointing out a personal fear is unacceptable to that same movement?

Speakup on October 23, 2010 at 8:39 PM

BINGO!

The only reasonable conclusion that one can reach is that Islam seeks for itself some sort of special protection that other religons don’t enjoy.

gryphon202 on October 23, 2010 at 8:41 PM

Honest defense of “principle” should never depend on proper timing.

pjean on October 23, 2010 at 8:40 PM

Hence why NPR’s board was not engaging in an honest defense of their principles.

gryphon202 on October 23, 2010 at 8:42 PM

gryphon202 on October 23, 2010 at 8:36 PM

As was Rove, Allahpundit, and Chris Christie, at least to the extent they all preferred Castle. If O’Donnell is your litmus test, you are going to drive off *a lot* of 80% and 90% friends and allies.

And don’t forget—all these friends and allies realized their mistake (specifically, commenting on the primary that was already over, for those who did comment after the primary) within a week or so and have offered no criticism of O’Donnell since then; that’s the Democrats’ job after all.

M. McCain stands as the sole exception who attacks a “fellow Republican” (in scare quotes because I’m not sure if Ms. McCain identifies as Republican any more) 2 weeks before the general election.

Allow Dr. Kraut his mistakes now and then; mercilessly attacking Krauthammer on his occasional mistakes would be faux pas on the order of NPR firing Williams.

novakyu on October 23, 2010 at 8:42 PM

CAIR was instrumental in getting Mike Savage taken off the air in Great Britain I believe and no one came to his defence like they have Juan Williams.

fourdeucer on October 23, 2010 at 8:26 PM

Apologies Mike was not taken off the air because of CAIR. Mike sued CAIR over copyright infringement when they (CAIR)
used portions of his show out of context and led a boycott of Mikes advertisers. Sorry, the fact is though he had very little support compared to Juan Williams.

fourdeucer on October 23, 2010 at 8:43 PM

Soros.

BallisticBob on October 23, 2010 at 8:43 PM

Way to go Charles! As usual, you did a great job translating the liberal “mental disorder” inflicted on many in our population in a clear and intelligent manner.

Travis1 on October 23, 2010 at 8:44 PM

fourdeucer on October 23, 2010 at 8:26 PM

CAIR is imitating our domestic race hustlers. It’s part of the plan, and as it has been profitable for guys like Jackson and Sharpton, they intend to follow. It’s easy funding for their larger agenda. Remember the ‘Flying Imams?’ This has going on for a while. CAIR may appear to be late comers to the game, but they’re sharper and part of a larger, international scheme. It should aggravate the daylights out of our domestic race/poverty pimps because they were, well, rather original in our context. They will certainly feel that they are the truly legitimate victims, and I do think there will be a good deal of friction as we go along.

One of the things that I see as a fuse waiting for a light is the inevitable conflict between our home-grown civil rights opportunists, the black community with a predilection for NOI and the outsider Islamists. I’ve been thinking about this for years as NOI takes root along with Arab funded movements within the US.

The bottom line for both is looting the taxpayers via our legal system, relegating the indigenous population irrelevant (like the UK), angry and stuck with the bill, while allowing a minority to dominate.

Make no mistake about it. This is what the “liberals” want, and Soros is behind it with his pals like Peter Lewis (Progressive Insurance) and a host of others.

Cody1991 on October 23, 2010 at 8:44 PM

Simple answer: Juan never offered Slick Willie a BJ.

SilentWatcher on October 23, 2010 at 8:45 PM

If the new tea party Congress doesn’t have the guts to pull the plug on NPR, how will they ever have the guts to defund ObamaCare?
That right there is a pretty darn good question.

BowHuntingTexas on October 23, 2010 at 7:56 PM

That will show us their mindset right away , won`t it?

bluemarlin on October 23, 2010 at 8:45 PM

Allow Dr. Kraut his mistakes now and then; mercilessly attacking Krauthammer on his occasional mistakes would be faux pas on the order of NPR firing Williams.

novakyu on October 23, 2010 at 8:42 PM

Don’t even link me with those CPB flunkies, you douchebag. No one is calling for the cabbage pounder’s ouster. I just think that he is one of several (including Rove, and others) that are cannibalizing the Republican party from the inside out, and that no good can come of it.

Or are you saying that I shouldn’t feel free to express my opinion about what an establishment douchebag I think he is?

gryphon202 on October 23, 2010 at 8:47 PM

Good grief, that clip vividly reminds me why I never watch that horses–t show. Mincing around the issue and some nitwit who once again tries to sell the left’s despicable “McVeigh was a Christian!” lie. What a mess.

Django on October 23, 2010 at 8:48 PM

I wouldn’t worry if I were him; as Jesse Walker reminds us, GOP threats to defund public broadcasting are evergreen but never go anywhere

Same can be said of GOP promises to protect LIFE … the BORDERS … cut the deficit …

And that had better change after November.

The gig is up.

HondaV65 on October 23, 2010 at 8:48 PM

Or are you saying that I shouldn’t feel free to express my opinion about what an establishment douchebag I think he is?

gryphon202 on October 23, 2010 at 8:47 PM

Look, it’s getting ugly, so I’m going to let this be my last word: if you are serious about advancing conservative agenda, you have to be serious about building alliances. Never compromise your principles, but don’t viciously attack your own people either.

You say whatever you want to say, but if you are serious about being a conservative who wants to pull the D.C. to the right, then you shouldn’t get ugly attacking someone to the right of center. Or, to paraphrase a global savior, you have constitutional right to say whatever you want, but you would be seriously lacking in wisdom in doing so.

novakyu on October 23, 2010 at 8:51 PM

I can’t characterize that this was better or worse or less egregious or more egregious than any other time. The point is, this was the latest in a series of incidents.

Well Ms. “Go see your shrink” it would behoove you to do so as you will be called on it in a lawsuit and if you can’t explain why

“I hope his grand children get AIDS” is consistent with your editorial standards and practices”

and doesn’t

“violate your standards as well as your values”

you are going to lose the case.

BTW, if you
“can’t characterize that this was better or worse”
“less egregious or more egregious”

It sounds like “what he said” was not the problem but “where he said it is the problem”. And if that’s the case your going to lose again as Juan has been on Fox for years, and other NPR folk regularly appear on other shows.

To anyone with an oz of commonsense would conclude that the TRUE reason Juan was fired is unstated.

So what has recently changed at NPR that could account for this recent change from the norm?

Humm? Could it have anything to do with the $1.8 million George Soros the most partisan billionaire and convicted criminal in the world donated to NPR?

If yes then Ms. Schiller the term “useful idiot” comes to mind, as in Ms. Schiller your a “useful idiot”.

This decision of your is going to cost NPR wayyyyyyyyyyy over $1.8 million and that most likely explains why you work for a government subsidize entity.

Idiots don’t last long in the real world, the “Peter principle” applies here, хотели бы Вы жаркое с этим?

DSchoen on October 23, 2010 at 8:52 PM

You say whatever you want to say, but if you are serious about being a conservative who wants to pull the D.C. to the right, then you shouldn’t get ugly attacking someone to the right of center. Or, to paraphrase a global savior, you have constitutional right to say whatever you want, but you would be seriously lacking in wisdom in doing so.

novakyu on October 23, 2010 at 8:51 PM

You mean like Krauthammer attacked O’Donnell? That wasn’t a mistake, dude. Pounding your thumb with a hammer is a “mistake.” What Rove and Krauthammer did was an unforced egregious strategic political error borne of the panic induced by their loss of control from within the establishment. We’ve been “building alliances” for longer than I’ve been alive, and quite frankly, I’d like to build some alliances with people that will act in my interest for a change.

gryphon202 on October 23, 2010 at 8:54 PM

Even outnumbered 3 or 4 to 1, Charles was an intellectual force to behold. I can’t wait to hear from Brit Hume and hope he’s on the Fox News Sunday panel tomorrow.

Juan was on Hannity’s radio show yesterday. They were talking about being friends, having a lot in common, etc. Hmmm. Will Juan’s expanded role at Fox News put him in the Alan Colmes role on a new TV show modeled after Hannity and Colmes? They could call it Sean and Juan.

On today’s episode of Huckabee, Juan said he hasn’t really slept since his firing. His emotions are pretty raw. After another week of this, I hope he can take a vacation.

Terrie on October 23, 2010 at 8:57 PM

On today’s episode of Huckabee, Juan said he hasn’t really slept since his firing. His emotions are pretty raw. After another week of this, I hope he can take a vacation.

Terrie on October 23, 2010 at 8:57 PM

I do feel for Juan. Stabbed in the back by his ideological soulmates… It’s hard for me to fathom getting worked up about being s**t-canned by NPR, but Juan got a raw deal any way you cut it.

gryphon202 on October 23, 2010 at 8:59 PM

Never compromise your principles, but don’t viciously attack your own people either.

novakyu on October 23, 2010 at 8:51 PM

Tell that to a slew of anonymous “Republican strategists” and “top money people” and “party elders”. They seem to forget that when it comes to the TP, Sarah Palin, Christine O’Donnell and so on.

ddrintn on October 23, 2010 at 9:01 PM

WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING TO THIS WEBSITE (post-Townhall purchase)?! Now I get an ad that blocks the first couple of paragraphs WITHOUT the option of CLOSING it, even after visiting the so-called OPTIONAL ad site.

SCREW HOT AIR IF THIS IS THE NEW NORMAL HERE.

Lockstein13 on October 23, 2010 at 7:46 PM

As others mentioned, download Firefox browser here: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/

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Problem solved.

I’d be willing to not use Adblock and view ads but advertisers are so obnoxiously over the top with their intrusive ads that I’ll keep using adblockers. It’s not the ads that are the problem, it’s their aggressive attempts to completely take over your browser and whole websites.

Django on October 23, 2010 at 9:02 PM

Juan was fired from NPR because Mr Soros is now handing out the pink Slips.

Conservalicious on October 23, 2010 at 9:06 PM

I do feel for Juan. Stabbed in the back by his ideological soulmates… It’s hard for me to fathom getting worked up about being s**t-canned by NPR, but Juan got a raw deal any way you cut it.

gryphon202 on October 23, 2010 at 8:59 PM

I can agree with the raw deal part but let me add also that he got mugged by reality. A reality that the very people and ideaology he has been defending are exactly what the right has been telling him they are. It will take a while for him to digest this and believe it and I bet it that is what is keeping him up at night.

bluemarlin on October 23, 2010 at 9:07 PM

Schiller acknowledged that NPR didn’t manage the firing well,

One of the most obviously stupid comments of the week. Like, maybe, they should not have fired him at all… Duh….

chai on October 23, 2010 at 9:09 PM

Tell that to a slew of anonymous “Republican strategists” and “top money people” and “party elders”. They seem to forget that when it comes to the TP, Sarah Palin, Christine O’Donnell and so on.

ddrintn on October 23, 2010 at 9:01 PM

How true, as Demint said, all of the people he backed that lost are now supporting the Primary winner the RINOS that lost, not so much. They will learn soon enough, I think.

bluemarlin on October 23, 2010 at 9:11 PM

bluemarlin on October 23, 2010 at 9:07 PM

ideaology = ideology in above post

bluemarlin on October 23, 2010 at 9:12 PM

I can agree with the raw deal part but let me add also that he got mugged by reality. A reality that the very people and ideaology he has been defending are exactly what the right has been telling him they are. It will take a while for him to digest this and believe it and I bet it that is what is keeping him up at night.

bluemarlin on October 23, 2010 at 9:07 PM

Or not. I lost a few nights of sleep after I got sacked from Walmart. I was making almost $10/hour back in 2004, while minimum wage was still less than $6. I got over it. Juan will too, and I think when he does, he’ll still be liberal.

gryphon202 on October 23, 2010 at 9:13 PM

On today’s episode of Huckabee, Juan said he hasn’t really slept since his firing. His emotions are pretty raw. After another week of this, I hope he can take a vacation. – Terrie on October 23, 2010 at 8:57 PM

I am sure he will be able to take a vacation. Williams has become a star ………….. thank you NPR.

SC.Charlie on October 23, 2010 at 9:13 PM

It’s amazing that above all they’re openly bemoaning the timing of the firing during funding week. And that’s on top of being on the taxpayer’s dole. Life is good at the top, eh?

Gotta love Chuck the Hammer.

paul1149 on October 23, 2010 at 9:16 PM

I’d like to build some alliances with people that will act in my interest for a change.

gryphon202 on October 23, 2010 at 8:54 PM

I’m with you all the way.

Take heart, though. I had an interesting experience today which may seem meaningless to many of you, but for me it was enlightening in many ways.

Here’s what happened….. I was doing some yard work today, and one of my neighbors gave me a shout. Normally I don’t join in with the coffee klatch crowd that spends most of their days sitting in their backyards – a little too gossipy for me. But today I joined them because I really didn’t feel like pruning giant hedges.

We started talking about politics, and I was amazed. This is a most ordinary neighborhood, ones of those neighborhoods commonly described as ignorant, ill-informed and too stupid to understand what was going on. In fact, to be honest, I avoided these ladies because I didn’t want to get into the usual gossip.

What I learned especially from the least likely participant is that every one of those women are smart, informed and understood exactly what is going on in this country. They had the facts in command, and they could recount every bill, every travesty Congress has made in the last two years (also the Bush admin.), and they could recite all the stupid, idiotic things BO, Pelosi and Reid have said for the last two years.

They were on FIYAH!

My take away (with my little tush between my legs) is that I can also be a snob. These are the people I defend, but today I finally understood that they don’t need my defense.

A few little ladies sitting in their back yards drinking tea…. one who looks as though she couldn’t put two sentences together yet has one of the sharpest political minds I’ve met in years. Another one is ill and facing death. She’s hanging on, but is finding it more and more difficult (Obamacare) to access her doctors and receive the care she had a few months ago.

All of them are very aware, and to a woman they despise this administration with special hatred directed toward Pelosi and Reid.

So, yeah, we’re just ignorant Southerners. When Zip talks about our “fear” because we’re “stupid” it doesn’t wash. The fear is actually rage, and it’s because his policies are killing us.

Cody1991 on October 23, 2010 at 9:19 PM

When Zip talks about our “fear” because we’re “stupid” it doesn’t wash. The fear is actually rage, and it’s because his policies are killing us America.

Cody1991 on October 23, 2010 at 9:19 PM

We’ll live. America is much more fragile.

gryphon202 on October 23, 2010 at 9:23 PM

We got a fund drive request in the mail this week and sent it back with a Zero Dollar contribution and listed the name as Juan Williams.

Elizabetty on October 23, 2010 at 9:24 PM

gryphon202 on October 23, 2010 at 9:13 PM

I am sure he will still be a liberal but will he still defend the progressives? It will be interesting to watch,

bluemarlin on October 23, 2010 at 9:24 PM

I am sure he will still be a liberal but will he still defend the progressives? It will be interesting to watch,

bluemarlin on October 23, 2010 at 9:24 PM

Isn’t that a requirement of being a liberal? Juan Williams is a pretty reasonable guy, even when he is utterly wrong. His honesty will serve him well as a newly-minted Fox News employee, liberalism notwithstanding.

gryphon202 on October 23, 2010 at 9:27 PM

Re the annoying Bloomberg ad that blocks the thread, I took the advice of one of the commenters and hit “refresh.” Voila! The ad disappeared.

onlineanalyst on October 23, 2010 at 9:28 PM

Wow. I flipped to the Headlines page and saw the Bloomberg ad. First time it popped up which is why I couldn’t figure out why everyone was so worked up.

That’s really awful. It’s even worse because Mike Bloomberg is such a puke.

Hey, Salem! Got to do something about it. Pronto!

Cody1991 on October 23, 2010 at 9:33 PM

It looked like Totenberg soiled her drawers halfway through Hammer’s response and was rendered speechless. A classic.

echosyst on October 23, 2010 at 9:38 PM

If that ad doesn’t go away then the commenters should.

Schadenfreude on October 23, 2010 at 9:38 PM

Krauthammer back in HotAir’s good graces? Wow. We’re such cheap whores here. I love it!

/sarc ?

SouthernGent on October 23, 2010 at 9:42 PM

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