Valerie Jarrett: We completely understand this voter anger — about the Bush-driven recession

posted at 8:03 pm on October 21, 2010 by Allahpundit

Alternate headline: “Valerie Jarrett completely misunderstands voter anger.” If you don’t have time to watch this now, no worries: You’ll be hearing the same talking point verbatim on the morning of November 3. The electorate is as gung ho for Hopenchange as ever, it’s just that this darned economy, which the Democrats have absolutely nothing to do with, has voters feeling anxious and angry and, well, darned peevish towards the president.

And as we all know, peevish voters don’t really count:

“What about all those angry tea partiers, though?” you ask. The key word is “angry.” Angry people aren’t enthusiastic; they’re just angry. And once the object of that anger is gone, there’s not much left, except perhaps more undirected anger.

Tea-party anger is not enthusiasm for Republicans or Republican policies — the only folks more disliked than incumbents are those inside the tea-party movement itself. Polls show a majority of Americans don’t align themselves with the tea party. A late August CBS poll, for example, found that 54 percent did not support the movement…

If we’re going to equate anger with enthusiasm — which is not a good idea, but that’s the media’s ginned-up, don’t-think-for-yourself, pre-fabricated narrative — then we have to note that angry voters are usually abrasive and obtuse. It’s not an emotion of the future.

Patriotism, on the other hand, does look into the future. And real patriotism is about solving problems, not posing slogans or inciting fear. Patriots debate; they don’t vilify, and they actually work toward things like establishing justice, ensuring domestic tranquility and promoting the general welfare.

That’s Donna Brazile, helpfully explaining that anger is unpatriotic. By the way, in case you’re not keeping up on your daily talking points, this is the Democratic meme du jour — that voters are angry and therefore not quite in their right mind, which is why they’re willing to elect candidates who are stupid. That’s the best liberals can do under the circumstances; no doubt they’d like to expand their tea-party narrative to the electorate generally and tell voters that if they elect Republicans they’re (a) racist and (b) stone-cold nuts, but even the Obama-led Democratic Party retains some vague sense that they shouldn’t insult the electorate too much. Psychoanalyzing them, telling them that they’re not thinking clearly because economic anxiety is acting like some sort of political narcotic on their brain — that’s all fair game. But ix-nay on the acism-ray. Until 2012, at least. Click the image to watch.


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Valerie, identify with the American voter.

MeatHeadinCA on October 21, 2010 at 8:05 PM

The chicken will need a moment.

greggriffith on October 21, 2010 at 8:06 PM

Patriotism, on the other hand, does look into the future. And real patriotism is about solving problems, not posing slogans or inciting fear.

Don’t say it too often, but EFF YOU.

Man, I would walk barefoot over broken glass, through molten lava, and across a minefield sown with Bouncing Bettys to vote against these liberal turds.

Way to bridge that partisan gap, PBHO, you and your hired human trash thugs.

Bishop on October 21, 2010 at 8:07 PM

Ah….Yes…. The old Jedi Mind trick…”These aren’t the droids you are looking for!”.

Rndguy on October 21, 2010 at 8:09 PM

It’s amazing how many people in the White House just aren’t very bright at all.

beatcanvas on October 21, 2010 at 8:09 PM

I can just imagine how these White House morons sit around encouraging each other to come up with these brainless comments, some of which they feed to the Pinhead-in-Chief thru his Tele-crutch-Ter.

n0doz on October 21, 2010 at 8:09 PM

What were people saying about Obama and Triangulation?

These people will not moderate. Full speed ahead.

conservative pilgrim on October 21, 2010 at 8:11 PM

So confused childish angry voters are electing stupid people?

Yeah, that will win hearts and minds.

sharrukin on October 21, 2010 at 8:11 PM

I can just imagine how these White House morons sit around encouraging each other to come up with these brainless comments, some of which they feed to the Pinhead-in-Chief thru his Tele-crutch-Ter.

n0doz on October 21, 2010 at 8:09 PM

And Jarrett got the short end of the stick today. It’s her turn to look like the idiot.

conservative pilgrim on October 21, 2010 at 8:12 PM

Angry people aren’t enthusiastic; they’re just angry.

HAHAHAhahahahahaha!!! You can kiss our enthusiasm come Nov. 2

John the Libertarian on October 21, 2010 at 8:12 PM

They must be ready to cheat on a massive scale.

tetriskid on October 21, 2010 at 8:12 PM

The left has never been known for it’s iron grasp on reality.

ronsfi on October 21, 2010 at 8:13 PM

These people will not moderate. Full speed ahead.

conservative pilgrim on October 21, 2010 at 8:11 PM

It’s like asking MeggyMac to moderate on her fat intake or asking Andy Sullivan to moderate on his creepy stalking. Just not gonna happen. Barry and team have a authoritarian fetish and aren’t about to kick it. Nov 2012 will be intervention day.

MeatHeadinCA on October 21, 2010 at 8:13 PM

It`s all my fault….. I`m a piece of no good horse sh*t!

ThePrez on October 21, 2010 at 8:13 PM

The beeping vehicle backing up behind her was less monotonous.

Disturb the Universe on October 21, 2010 at 8:13 PM

BTW I’m teeth and fist clenchingly…enthusiastic.

ronsfi on October 21, 2010 at 8:13 PM

Whatever happened to mind your own business, and leave mine to me?

OldEnglish on October 21, 2010 at 8:14 PM

A bird in hand is worth two in the….BOOOOOOOSH!

Tennman on October 21, 2010 at 8:14 PM

If the Democrats have done sooooooo much good in the past two years, why aren’t they running on their record Ms Jarrett?

……………..crickets chirping………………….

GarandFan on October 21, 2010 at 8:15 PM

Hope she gets a lot more air time…that will seal the deal in Nov.

Dingbat63 on October 21, 2010 at 8:15 PM

They must be ready to cheat on a massive scale.

tetriskid on October 21, 2010 at 8:12 PM

Perhaps they have been taking notice of recent events in Afghanistan.

OldEnglish on October 21, 2010 at 8:16 PM

Valerie Jarrett – Her appetites were low and expensive. Her boots were high and cheap.

jaime on October 21, 2010 at 8:16 PM

The chicken will need a moment.

greggriffith on October 21, 2010 at 8:06 PM

You’re gonna need several more chickens.

I’m angry. Yes, I am….I’m angry about the government telling me what kind of healthcare to buy. I’m angry about the government bailing out unions, car companies run by unions. I’m angry about the government destroying the private sector. I’m angry about the government telling me I can’t eat a cherry fried pie covered in salt. I’m angry about the government calling me racist and a bigot for wanting to restore honor to our country, to restore what the founding fathers created for us. I’m angry about the government killing the dollar by printing money. I’m angry about the government being so effing stupid that they can’t see the torches coming. You will see on November 3 just how angry we are…and Valerie, don’t get comfortable…you and your little fisty puppet are going to be out of a job come November 2012.

HornetSting on October 21, 2010 at 8:17 PM

So what about all of Obama’s anger?

theperfecteconomist on October 21, 2010 at 8:17 PM

The chicken will need a moment.

greggriffith on October 21, 2010 at 8:06 PM

.. and a shrink.

darwin-t on October 21, 2010 at 8:18 PM

CUNNING STUNT!

400lb Gorilla on October 21, 2010 at 8:21 PM

Dumb as a rock and just as good looking.

Scrappy on October 21, 2010 at 8:21 PM

HornetSting on October 21, 2010 at 8:17 PM

Dogfart.

John the Libertarian on October 21, 2010 at 8:21 PM

How amusing. I know it is frustrating to endure during the interview, but I take heart. I can see the panic. The utter denial and desperation coursing through the halls and doorways of the WH.

They, like a wounded animal, are doubling down for the fight of their lives

blatantblue on October 21, 2010 at 8:22 PM

Wouldn’t you just love to be in the room when Valerie Jarrett is asked the question…

“So what do you plan to do now that you have to leave government service?”

Seven Percent Solution on October 21, 2010 at 8:23 PM

Amazing how the evil Boosh also inherited a recession in 2001 and spent his way to recovery- a year later.
And by spent, I meant cut taxes.
These people are evil and stupid.

jjshaka on October 21, 2010 at 8:24 PM

We completely understand this voter anger — about the BushFederal Reserve-driven recession

FYFY, Val. And?

“Fear the Boom and Bust” a Hayek vs. Keynes Rap Anthem

HTH you understand, you stupid fascist cow.

Rae on October 21, 2010 at 8:25 PM

Oh to be a fly on the wall at one of their BS strategy sessions.

“These Tea Party people are racists, running around scared because there’s a black man in the White House.”

“Oh, I got one. They’re also potential domestic terrorists!”

“I don’t know if that will work. I’m going with just plain crazy.”

“No, it’s racism, racism, racism, I tell you!”

“Wait, what if we just go with hardcore Christian fundamentalists?”

“Don’t forget the tried and true ‘orchestrated, big money astroturf’ campaign. We could use that.”

“How about ‘scared and too stupid to know what’s good for them’?”

“Can’t they be scared and racist at the same time?”

“Perhaps, populist poseurs?”

“But can racists be poseurs?”

“No, I got it! They’re too darned angry to think straight!”

“Ooh, wait. Even better. They’re angry, all right…but,wait for it… at BUSH!!!!!!”

(raucous applause and excited high fives all around the room)

Bruce MacMahon on October 21, 2010 at 8:26 PM

HornetSting on October 21, 2010 at 8:17 PM
Dogfart.

John the Libertarian on October 21, 2010 at 8:21 PM

Yeah.

HornetSting on October 21, 2010 at 8:27 PM

Standing at the event horizon of ‘stoopid’ these people are.

lukespapa on October 21, 2010 at 8:29 PM

Speak truth to power, girlie.

Aquateen Hungerforce on October 21, 2010 at 8:30 PM

The best and brightest from Chicago??? No wonder it’s such a screwed up city and soon to surpass Detroit, no doubt.

chickasaw42 on October 21, 2010 at 8:30 PM

We’re Moving in the right direction
Keep Moving forward
Making progress
Bush
Recession since great depression
Voter anger
Lean forward
Keep moving toward Progress

/Got it. All the latest Marxist talking points for the new Angry Generation.

Key West Reader on October 21, 2010 at 8:32 PM

These people are just pathetic. Dog ate my homework. Really?

ronsfi on October 21, 2010 at 8:32 PM

“Polls show a majority of Americans don’t align themselves with the tea party.”

Too bad the “Polls” don’t realize that 100% of the Tea Party members are Americans…

… and those that have to work, and take care of their families, who are unable to travel to D.C., but are just as pissed off at the Ruling Class and entrenched political bureaucrat elite who are at the heart of this mess, but are not home when the “Poll” calls, will be going to the polls come November 2nd.

And they will be doing so in vast numbers…

…. Vast!

Seven Percent Solution on October 21, 2010 at 8:32 PM

And aspirin.

katy the mean old lady on October 21, 2010 at 8:32 PM

Nuance Head up arseance.

Luka on October 21, 2010 at 8:35 PM

.
This is the woman known as “Obama’s Brain?” Really?

I’m glad she’s getting air time. It’s time she was targeted for closer scrutiny by the public. She’s way too close to Obama to be left alone.

Joan of Argghh on October 21, 2010 at 8:35 PM

It’s a little funny watching someone defend her Pet Rock.

Nice suit though, Val. You’re a little to heavy on the facial fillers, and that granny haircut is… Blech. You look a little uncomfortable in that frock that resembles a couch in an abandoned house, but other than that? You’re a farking genius!

Key West Reader on October 21, 2010 at 8:36 PM

Bush driven recession! Wait til you see the economy without his tax cuts. We are on the cusp of the Obama economy: high unemployment, high interest rates, stagnation and lower government revenues.

Basilsbest on October 21, 2010 at 8:38 PM

We still have two weeks…

… Why not ask Valerie Jarrett if the Service Men and Women on the front lines, whose ballots won’t be counted, if they are angry, and if they are Americans?

Seven Percent Solution on October 21, 2010 at 8:38 PM

God, this woman is an idiot!

thekingtut on October 21, 2010 at 8:38 PM

We are on the cusp of the Obama economy: high unemployment, high interest rates, stagnation and lower government revenues.
Basilsbest on October 21, 2010 at 8:38 PM

That’s only if we’re lucky.

Bishop on October 21, 2010 at 8:40 PM

this woman is an idiot!

thekingtut on October 21, 2010 at 8:38 PM

birds of a feather and all that

darwin-t on October 21, 2010 at 8:41 PM

Why not ask Valerie Jarrett if the Service Men and Women on the front lines, whose ballots won’t be counted, if they are angry, and if they are Americans?

Seven Percent Solution on October 21, 2010 at 8:38 PM

With the sudden and unexpected departure of Gates, perhaps we will see our troops have to come here to defend us on our own land. Nothing can shock me at this point.

Key West Reader on October 21, 2010 at 8:42 PM

Dangerous.Creepy.Extreme.

SouthernGent on October 21, 2010 at 8:43 PM

Not just an idiot, but a dangerous one as well.

thekingtut on October 21, 2010 at 8:48 PM

Dangerous.Creepy.Extreme.

SouthernGent on October 21, 2010 at 8:43 PM

Not just an idiot, but a dangerous one as well.

thekingtut on October 21, 2010 at 8:48 PM

Just check her out on http://www.Muckety.com

Then you’ll be able to state with specificity who and what this woman is, and why she is so dangerous.

Key West Reader on October 21, 2010 at 8:51 PM

These people have their finger on the pulse of America, all right. Delusional.

Philly on October 21, 2010 at 8:52 PM

Wouldn’t you just love to be in the room when Valerie Jarrett is asked the question…

“So what do you plan to do now that you have to leave government service?”

Seven Percent Solution on October 21, 2010 at 8:23 PM

Not to worry they all have a nice office at Center for American Progress already set out. Or leave, they never intended to leave. Why leave a dictatorship when they are the dictators.

tjexcite on October 21, 2010 at 8:52 PM

.Extreme.

SouthernGent on October 21, 2010 at 8:43 PM

She’s part of the Tea Party? /s

HornetSting on October 21, 2010 at 8:53 PM

These people have their finger on the pulse of America, all right. Delusional.

Philly on October 21, 2010 at 8:52 PM

Uh, that’s not where their finger is. I think their heads are up there too.
After we destroy the dems in a couple of weeks, with them serving up this crap, 2012 is going to be epic….as long as we get a candidate this time with some balls.

HornetSting on October 21, 2010 at 8:54 PM

Just another Chicago Commie !

Sandybourne on October 21, 2010 at 8:56 PM

Smarmy little leftist turd.
That garbage truck that passed forgot to pick her up.

justltl on October 21, 2010 at 8:57 PM

How hilarious is it that there is a garbage truck backing in behind her? It probably just follows her to every press event to pick up afterwards.

JavelinaBomb on October 21, 2010 at 8:58 PM

They must be ready to cheat on a massive scale.

tetriskid on October 21, 2010 at 8:12 PM

You can count on it.
Voter fraud ought to be one of the first items on the new Congress’s to do list.

justltl on October 21, 2010 at 9:00 PM

Funny how her name was floated to replace Rahm until one of her internal enemies leaked nasty stuff to a sympathetic media source. Now she continues in her role as “senior advisory,” whose duties apparently include lying to the press.

That group around Obama is more and more insular – Axe, Val, Plouffe, and Rouse, the cat-loving recluse.

I saw all Val on CNBC where she was interviewed the by the token liberal, who gave her a tongue bath. None of her ridiculous lies were challenged. I guess Immelt, the CEO of GE (who owns CNBC), is still looking for those green energy subsidies.

johnboy on October 21, 2010 at 9:08 PM

Ack, miss the edit function

Funny how her name was floated to replace Rahm until one of her internal enemies leaked nasty stuff to a sympathetic media source. Now she continues in her role as “senior advisor,” whose duties apparently include lying to the press.

That group around Obama is more and more insular – Axe, Val, Plouffe, and Rouse, the cat-loving recluse.

I saw ol Val on CNBC where she was interviewed the by the token liberal, who gave her a tongue bath. None of her ridiculous lies were challenged. I guess Immelt, the CEO of GE (who owns CNBC), is still looking for those green energy subsidies.

johnboy on October 21, 2010 at 9:10 PM

1. Establish an emotional — and true — narrative. Frame the election about who creates jobs and find the phrases that express ideas but resonate emotionally: Democrats create jobs, the American way.

Democrats only create Government jobs, run by Unions, paid for by taxes and more borrowing… but not private sector jobs; Democrats drive those away. Any job not controlled by the government is always somehow “evil”. Emotional and true… got it.

2. Draw the contrasts. Clarify the choice voters face. Take the initiative. Run on accomplishments, not away from them. And use visuals.

If you think deficits are bad, do you prefer 300 billion dollar deficits, or 1 trillion dollar deficits? House writes the Budgets and initiates spending bills (except this year’s Budget, which nobody wrote)… did you prefer 1994-2006 or 2006-2010 economically? That is the “accomplishment” you’ve got Dems. Everything Government does is designed to limit your choices and freedom; that is all legislation is for; and the Democrats are working to do it faster… look at their “accomplishments”.

Contrasts and accomplishments… got it.

3. Get your field ops operating.

If I knew what this really meant I’d probably be worried; or maybe just better armed.

gekkobear on October 21, 2010 at 9:15 PM

Gee, Valerie, you admit Obama tried to “rebuild” our economy. Yet you think people are mad at Bush?

No.

Obama turned a cyclical downturn… into an international disaster of seldom scene incompetence. The rest of the world is well into recovery.

Obama is worse than the worst socialist in Europe. When European socialists are mocking you…

This economy belongs to you Valerie. You. Look in the mirror sweetie. Then look at your boss and point that crooked evil finger straight in his face!

These people are so so so so far out of touch I wonder if they realize how very badly their plans have failed.

petunia on October 21, 2010 at 9:25 PM

Enough! Why do the Democrats keep getting the opportunity to define Republicans.

It is so subtle but the media goes along with it. Donna Brazile writes, not about who the Democrats are and what they are doing, but about the Republicans and their anger.

She writes about things she obviously does not understand first hand, only what she surmises, what she is already predisposed to believe about those who oppose her viewpoint.

They must be angry, irrational, abrasive and obtuse or they’d be going along with our fabulous progressive president.

And, for some reason, we are supposed to take her word for who we are and what we feel. Enough! The liberals cannot be allowed to drive the narrative anymore.

“I call shenanigans!”

Fallon on October 21, 2010 at 9:29 PM

How is it that the Democrats spent BILLIONS on the Stimulus and lied to us about “shovel-ready jobs”?

Where are the JOBS?

TN Mom on October 21, 2010 at 9:33 PM

Valerie should be the next White House Press Secretary. That would be fun.

MCGIRV on October 21, 2010 at 9:45 PM

Ah….Yes…. The old Jedi Mind trick…”These aren’t the droids you are looking for!”.

Rndguy on October 21, 2010 at 8:09 PM

“The Democrats should go about their business.”

fossten on October 21, 2010 at 9:47 PM

I’ll tell you, it’s maddening enough to watch them to do everything they can to wreck the country, but then to come out with drivel like this and direct it towards us, when Obama is the one who is guilty of posing slogans and inciting fear is just really too much.

We’ve spent two years listening to hope & change, I won, you’re racists, you’re stupid, you’re actions are fishy, etc., etc., and right now I would not just crawl, I would dance across broken glass to vote on November 2nd.

INC on October 21, 2010 at 9:54 PM

Let’s hope JOTUS sends this nutball out to speak more often, we might even get the Senate. Maybe she can even replace Gibby!

slickwillie2001 on October 21, 2010 at 9:55 PM

So confused childish angry voters are electing stupid people?

sharrukin on October 21, 2010 at 8:11 P

They sure did in 2008!

Oopsdaisy on October 21, 2010 at 9:55 PM

So Obama got rid of Rahm and kept Jarrett or Rahm said, I am out of here, and all he was left with was Jarrett.

Dr Evil on October 21, 2010 at 9:59 PM

Valerie Jarrett really knows her patriotism. But you think that she knows patriotism? You should see her rebuild automatic transmissions! She knows five times as much about transmissions as she does about patriotism. Amazing, huh?

“This is the accumulator spring she said, waving the pump in the air.”

That’s what it’s like listening to her talk about patriotism. For heaven’s sake, the only thing she knows about patriotism, is that dissent used to be its highest expression, until Obama became president.

smellthecoffee on October 21, 2010 at 9:59 PM

So this is what qualifies as advanced thinking?

diogenes on October 21, 2010 at 10:13 PM

54 percent did not support the movement…

…and even less support ….

.Obama….

…The democratic lead Congress……


….Obama’s stimulus…

……..Obama’s Health Care Bill……..

…………..Obama’s bail outs………..

………………Obama’s position on the Ground Zero Mosque

……Obama’s position on Illegal immigration enforcement

………Yea great point genius

Baxter Greene on October 21, 2010 at 10:22 PM

Valerie, Valerie, Valerie. Poor, insipid, spiteful, lying, moronic idiot, Valerie.

Remember the poll, where Obama and Bush are about neck, and neck in popularity? Of course you do. So your sorry attempts to lable this as ALL republican, while skirting any responsibility for yourself…really is a waste of yours, and my time. Go away now! ;)

capejasmine on October 21, 2010 at 10:28 PM

Valerie should be the next White House Press Secretary. That would be fun.

MCGIRV on October 21, 2010 at 9:45 PM

I think she’d be much more useful as one of those metal posts that holds up the velvet ropes. LOL

capejasmine on October 21, 2010 at 10:30 PM

I’ll beg for forgiveness ahead of time but:

And Jarrett got the short end of the stick today. It’s her turn to look like the idiot.

conservative pilgrim on October 21, 2010 at 8:12 PM

Sadly it is the excrement end of the stick and that is what the Obooby administration has handed all of us.

hamradio on October 21, 2010 at 11:10 PM

What an insufferable twit and liar “we’re not following daily polls”.

Maybe she told the truth and they are following hourly ones.

I like it when they are delusional.

Schadenfreude on October 21, 2010 at 11:47 PM

The more the RATS talk, the deeper their hole gets…I meant to say, the hole in their heads.

byteshredder on October 22, 2010 at 12:07 AM

Oh, shaddup already! You are incapable of getting it because you both are so caught up in your self-assigned brilliance.

ya2daup on October 22, 2010 at 12:31 AM

… then we have to note that angry voters are usually abrasive and obtuse. It’s not an emotion of the future. Patriotism, on the other hand, does look into the future.

Waitaminute, I thought that it was patriotic to disagree and debate with the president and his policies when you disagreed with those policies. At least that what Hillary told us, and she looked darned angry when she was saying that.

/I’m really confused here. Which is it?

//Oh, we’re looking into the future, a very bright future with no more Speaker Pelosi or Democrat Majority Leader Harry Ried. A very bright future indeed.

AZfederalist on October 22, 2010 at 12:45 AM

This election is about booting the Democrats out of power. They’ve been in power FOUR years, not TWO. FOUR years ago, the economy was in great shape.

This “we inherited this bad economy” crap has got to stop.

Pythagoras on October 22, 2010 at 1:16 AM

I genuinely believe that America’s Whiner-In-Chief wants the Republicans to gain control of Congress more strongly than the RNC does.

The Depression; Iran getting nukes; who cares? What Barack Hussein Obama wants more than anything in the world is SOMEONE TO BLAME.

logis on October 22, 2010 at 1:21 AM

Tell me again about how brilliant people these are.

Cindy Munford on October 22, 2010 at 1:37 AM

Isn’t the problem that Obama lama ding dong has not clearly articulated his message to the people, concentrating on policy more than promotion?

Isn’t that it?

Dhuka on October 22, 2010 at 2:50 AM

SHE’S THE REAL IDIOT! NUFF SAID.

TheAlamos on October 22, 2010 at 4:00 AM

The entire White House is living in deep denial about the problems the nation faces and the problems they face politically.

NoDonkey on October 22, 2010 at 6:49 AM

Why is it that these morons seem to always conveniently forget that their hero Barack was a sitting U.S. Senator since 2004… and never lifted a finger to prevent our current economic crisis?

They say that when you point the finger of blame, there’s three fingers pointed back at you. And Barry wonders why his “inherited mess” meme rings so hollow.

Murf76 on October 22, 2010 at 7:51 AM

Hey Valerie! How does it fel to be standing in the middle of the railroad tracks?

THat headlight you see is also known as “NO-vember 2, 2010″… A date that will live in Democrat infamy…

Khun Joe on October 22, 2010 at 7:59 AM

Grifter. A con artist giving us advice on how we should feel. How do those poor people in Chicago feel about their sub standard living conditions where you made millions right about now since winter’s coming on?

Kissmygrits on October 22, 2010 at 8:47 AM

Heh, “but we are moving in the right direction” How she says this with a straight face is beyond me.

Alden Pyle on October 22, 2010 at 9:11 AM

“Bloody peasants!”

mojo on October 22, 2010 at 11:03 AM

Field Marshall Jarret

until 2012 if the peons come to their senses…

Rea1ityCheck on October 22, 2010 at 12:38 PM