Rachel Maddow: Did you know that a GOP congressman had advance notice of the Oklahoma City bombing?

posted at 7:13 pm on October 20, 2010 by Allahpundit

Look at it this way: If you’re going to smear conservatives in order to turn out a few extra liberals at the polls next month, this is a heck of a lot more effective than the White House’s dopey demagoguery of the Chamber of Commerce.

Newsbusters did all the work in debunking this so I’m going to make you click here to read their post in full. Suffice it to say, no, Rep. Steve Stockman didn’t receive “advance notice” of anything. But rest assured that if he had gotten a fax about the bombing in advance, he’d still be getting smeared in precisely these same terms even had he turned the fax over to police right away (which he did on the day of the bombing). It reminds me, in fact, of lefty hero Alan Grayson accusing Bush a few months ago of having let 9/11 happen. Technically he was accusing Bush of not having taken the warnings about a hijacking plot seriously enough, but the “let it happen” rhetoric was his sly way of suggesting that Bush knew what was coming and happily allowed it to occur to further his policy agenda. The left likes to call that sort of loaded language a “dog whistle” insofar as certain listeners will hear extra meaning in it, and that’s certainly true in the Grayson example: He’s winking at Truthers and hardcore Bush-hating lefties by hinting that Bush was in cahoots with Al Qaeda while being careful not to explicitly accuse him of anything. Maddow is doing something similar here, presenting the point about the fax ostensibly to show only that Stockman was “close” to militias, but of course the (incorrect) rhetoric about “advance notice” implies something similar to Grayson’s point — that Stockman knew what was going down and cheerily kept it to himself to help his terrorist buddies out. And lest you doubt that this sort of scaremongering is geared at helping Democratic turnout, here are the very next words she uttered after the bit about Stockman:

There are extremist candidates who from time to time survive the churn of electoral politics and actually make it into the mainstream. There‘s always a few. But there has never been this many.

None of this makes any sense. We‘re just about to elect a whole bunch of extremists—unless thing change in the next two week.

Two weeks out. How do Democrats run against this? That‘s next.

So there you go. Oh, one more point: Outside the Beltway dug around a bit and found that this isn’t the first time she’s referred to Stockman and Oklahoma City on air. Back in March, she also mentioned the fax incident — except that, on that occasion, she noted that the fax was received after the bombing, not before. How that turned into “advance notice” this time, I don’t know. Check the calendar, I guess.


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Madcow has a bit of stalker in her, it seems. Creepy.

upinak on October 20, 2010 at 7:15 PM

Leaning loco.

publiuspen on October 20, 2010 at 7:15 PM

Why are the hot ones always crazy?

Chuck Schick on October 20, 2010 at 7:16 PM

I also heard that Maddow once had more than 10 nightly viewers, but I think that’s bullshnazz too.

Bishop on October 20, 2010 at 7:17 PM

She suffers from peniphobia!

Nearly Nobody on October 20, 2010 at 7:17 PM

Why are the hot ones always crazy?

Chuck Schick on October 20, 2010 at 7:16 PM

if you think madcow is hot, then you need to get your eyes checked post haste!!

right4life on October 20, 2010 at 7:18 PM

Hey, when did Elvis Costello get his own MSNBC show? Good for him!

Pope Linus on October 20, 2010 at 7:19 PM

Why are the hot ones always crazy?

Chuck Schick on October 20, 2010 at 7:16 PM

This is almost as crazy as being a truther.

tetriskid on October 20, 2010 at 7:20 PM

Hey, Rachel Maddow–the next time you visit the Grand Canyon, lean forward.

Emperor Norton on October 20, 2010 at 7:20 PM

When you’re a liberal, who needs facts?

conservative pilgrim on October 20, 2010 at 7:21 PM

Why are the hot ones always crazy?
Chuck Schick on October 20, 2010 at 7:16 PM

By “hot”, I’m presuming you mean incandescently stupid.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on October 20, 2010 at 7:21 PM

Her snarky hate boomeranged back into her face.

If CNN can fire an anchor for anti-jewish speech, Why won’t MSNBC fire the trash for making a statement that accuses an innocent person of a terrorist act?

portlandon on October 20, 2010 at 7:21 PM

Leaning slander.

Reckless disregard for the truth? Check. Defamation? Check. False statement? Check.

Rep. Stockman has a case if he wants it.

She’ll apologize tonight but it’ll be the half-hearted, unctuous type.

SteveMG on October 20, 2010 at 7:21 PM

if you think madcow is hot, then you need to get your eyes checked post haste!!

right4life on October 20, 2010 at 7:18 PM

C’mon. Maddow is pretty cute. She’s a post turtle, but still a cute one.

lorien1973 on October 20, 2010 at 7:22 PM

Desperate Dems are not attractive or truthful.

This is why when the GOP wins in november we do NOT extend a hand to the democrats.

They are angry bitter hate filled people. They will never work with us. They only love power and will do or say anything to keep it.

That is why the new GOP congress should kick the democrats in the teeth rather than reach across the isle. Because I gaurantee you that every dirty trick they can think of they will pull in 2012 to regain power.

THESE ARE NOT NICE PEOPLE POWER IS ALL THAT MATTERS TO THEM !

Investigate every damn dirty little democratic secret GOP ! Dont let them abuse us anymore.

ACORN, Fannie and Freddie, Black Panthers, the list goes on and on.

Until Obama is out of office our agenda is dead anyways. We cant over ride his veto. But we can hold their feet to the fire for a change.

William Amos on October 20, 2010 at 7:22 PM

Organized crime.

the_nile on October 20, 2010 at 7:23 PM

Oooh, conspiracy theories and urban myths, way cool, oooh… and Halloween’s coming up, even better. Did your region have variations of the Green Man, scratching on the car roof top and finger in the dobermans’ throat stories when you were at camp, too?

obladioblada on October 20, 2010 at 7:23 PM

Sue her and MSNBC.

darwin on October 20, 2010 at 7:24 PM

Mad Cow strikes.

Jaibones on October 20, 2010 at 7:24 PM

not sure which is scarier, her report or the guy that thinks she is hot……whoops, guess I assumed it was a guy….

SDarchitect on October 20, 2010 at 7:25 PM

Is this the politics of fear that Obama was always telling us about? I think so, but I might be too scared to think straight.

stldave on October 20, 2010 at 7:25 PM

That settles it…. I`m voting for democrats and at least $5 trillion more in debt.

ThePrez on October 20, 2010 at 7:25 PM

Who was it that said “The bigger the lie, the more people believe?”

Look for more of this sort of Maddow thing in the next 14 days. Anything to derail the oncoming train.

Nearly Nobody on October 20, 2010 at 7:17 PM

Maddow has one.

coldwarrior on October 20, 2010 at 7:26 PM

To think they are running an ad about MSNBC journalists doing the research for truth

blatantblue on October 20, 2010 at 7:27 PM

She should be fired for this vicious lie. Oh, wait. I forgot dirty lying is a requirement for working at MSNBC.

WannabeAnglican on October 20, 2010 at 7:29 PM

This canard is just the rattling throes of a mouldering bete noir.

Jocundus on October 20, 2010 at 7:29 PM

I think Maddow should join Grayson on one of his visits to the Alex Jones show. They can discuss how all their political enemies are actually responsible in some way for mass murder.

MadisonConservative on October 20, 2010 at 7:30 PM

This is almost as crazy as being a truther.

Tetraskid: This is exactly the same as being a truther! I can’t believe what she is just casually throwing out here-

Allahs vulva on October 20, 2010 at 7:30 PM

heh. when you can time travel like Rachel, it’s bound to get confusing after a while …

/sarc

dissent555 on October 20, 2010 at 7:30 PM

I think she’s vastly worse than Keith or Chris. They can, and should, be mocked for being so ridiculous. She’s like Obama, has a calm temperament, so it makes the incendiary things she says seem more reasonable. Which is much more dangerous in the end.

lizzie beth on October 20, 2010 at 7:31 PM

“lady” you better not step foot in Oklahoma…

Kaptain Amerika on October 20, 2010 at 7:31 PM

I am a twoofer! ~ Madcow

John the Libertarian on October 20, 2010 at 7:32 PM

Comcast has a lot of work to do…

d1carter on October 20, 2010 at 7:32 PM

When is this broad gonna show some skin?

Dork B. on October 20, 2010 at 7:32 PM

Ooh, can we play too? Fill in the blank and pass it on.

Did you hear that Rachel Maddow once got advance notice of __________________?

GrannyDee on October 20, 2010 at 7:32 PM

What a despicable individual! Hey Rachel, here is some advance warning for you. Watching/reporting TV election results the night of Nov 2nd might induce your head to pop.

bluemarlin on October 20, 2010 at 7:33 PM

Isn’t this Libel? She’s accusing the man of a crime.

Mord on October 20, 2010 at 7:33 PM

When is this broad gonna show some skin?

Dork B. on October 20, 2010 at 7:32 PM

Uhhh… ewwwwww.

JohnGalt23 on October 20, 2010 at 7:34 PM

Desperate Dems are not attractive or truthful.

This is why when the GOP wins in november we do NOT extend a hand to the democrats.

They are angry bitter hate filled people. They will never work with us. They only love power and will do or say anything to keep it.

That is why the new GOP congress should kick the democrats in the teeth rather than reach across the isle. Because I gaurantee you that every dirty trick they can think of they will pull in 2012 to regain power.

THESE ARE NOT NICE PEOPLE POWER IS ALL THAT MATTERS TO THEM !

Investigate every damn dirty little democratic secret GOP ! Dont let them abuse us anymore.

ACORN, Fannie and Freddie, Black Panthers, the list goes on and on.

Until Obama is out of office our agenda is dead anyways. We cant over ride his veto. But we can hold their feet to the fire for a change.

William Amos on October 20, 2010 at 7:22 PM

Worth repeating.

GrannyDee on October 20, 2010 at 7:34 PM

What a despicable individual! Hey Rachel, here is some advance warning for you. Watching/reporting TV election results the night of Nov 2nd might induce your head to pop.

bluemarlin on October 20, 2010 at 7:33 PM

They’ve said we Americans have been throwing a little temper tantrum the last year or so. We’ll see who is throwing the tantrum that night, won’t we?

stldave on October 20, 2010 at 7:35 PM

Getting pretty tired of the lies being put out by this network. She owes us all an apology. Right now.

http://examiner.com/conservative-in-spokane/msnbc-host-attacks-chenoweth-stockman-makes-false-claims-of-okc-bombing

jdawg on October 20, 2010 at 7:37 PM

Really, this is smoke so egregious, it should require a firing.

Won’t hold my breath, though. I won’t even hold it for a retraction.

Vyce on October 20, 2010 at 7:37 PM

Why are the hot ones always crazy?

Chuck Schick on October 20, 2010 at 7:16 PM

*gag*

BigWyo on October 20, 2010 at 7:37 PM

Rachel, don’t be surprised when karma rears it’s head on you, vile woman.

capejasmine on October 20, 2010 at 7:37 PM

Why are the hot ones always crazy?

Chuck Schick on October 20, 2010 at 7:16 PM

/Sarc?

Kjeil on October 20, 2010 at 7:38 PM

When is this broad gonna show some skin?
Dork B. on October 20, 2010 at 7:32 PM

When “Fangoria” starts showing nude centerfolds.

Bishop on October 20, 2010 at 7:39 PM

People really think Maddow is hot? This shakes my worldview to its core.

stldave on October 20, 2010 at 7:39 PM

Isn’t this Libel? She’s accusing the man of a crime.

Mord on October 20, 2010 at 7:33 PM

Slander. Libel is when it’s written. There may an exception due to the victim being a former congressman.

jdawg on October 20, 2010 at 7:39 PM

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on October 20, 2010 at 7:21 PM

It’s good to see you!!!

lovingmyUSA on October 20, 2010 at 7:39 PM

Rachel MadScum.

journeyintothewhirlwind on October 20, 2010 at 7:40 PM

They’ve said we Americans have been throwing a little temper tantrum the last year or so. We’ll see who is throwing the tantrum that night, won’t we?

stldave on October 20, 2010 at 7:35 PM

Yeah, some may actually prove the theory of spontaneous combustion that night.

bluemarlin on October 20, 2010 at 7:41 PM

Isn’t this Libel? She’s accusing the man of a crime.

Well, it’s slander (libel is written defamation; slander is oral or spoken).

The question is proving it in court. As a public figure Stockman has to prove reckless disregard for the truth in addition to defamation. Very hard to due.

Anyway, she’ll issue an apology tonight and that’ll be it.

SteveMG on October 20, 2010 at 7:41 PM

So, I’m assuming outright lies are okay for MSNBC?

ButterflyDragon on October 20, 2010 at 7:42 PM

Who heard what she said? What are her ratings?

XM put her on the Right channel…or whatever it is called…the one with Beck…I fear that when I push the preset by accident that it will register in XM that she had a listener.

Dingbat63 on October 20, 2010 at 7:42 PM

Hey Rachel, here is some advance warning for you. Watching/reporting TV election results the night of Nov 2nd might induce your head to pop.

bluemarlin on October 20, 2010 at 7:33 PM

Might help her ratings.

malclave on October 20, 2010 at 7:42 PM

They are angry bitter hate filled people. They will never work with us. They only love power and will do or say anything to keep it.

Really? You’re comparing one sentence to most of what Glenn Beck says every single day? That’s pretty weak.

I don’t see the hate even beginning to approach what you hear from the angry white men of the right.

bayam on October 20, 2010 at 7:42 PM

So, I’m assuming outright lies are okay for MSNBC?

ButterflyDragon on October 20, 2010 at 7:42 PM

It’s a prequisite for employment.

lovingmyUSA on October 20, 2010 at 7:43 PM

Shoot, prerequisite….or whatever, where’s spellcheck when you need it…

lovingmyUSA on October 20, 2010 at 7:44 PM

/Sarc?

Kjeil on October 20, 2010 at 7:38 PM

I’ve gone down some dark alleys before, and that was wrong; I realize that now.

But I shudder to think that this is not Major Sarc. Surely it must be!

Jaibones on October 20, 2010 at 7:45 PM

I don’t see the hate even beginning to approach what you hear from the angry white men of the right.

bayam on October 20, 2010 at 7:42 PM

There are none so blind as … you.

Jaibones on October 20, 2010 at 7:45 PM

Really? You’re comparing one sentence to most of what Glenn Beck says every single day? That’s pretty weak.

I don’t see the hate even beginning to approach what you hear from the angry white men of the right.

bayam on October 20, 2010 at 7:42 PM

It’s called FACTS. And facts are sometimes painful…especially to libtards like yourself that only deal in FEELINGS.

HornetSting on October 20, 2010 at 7:45 PM

There is a word for her. But it would be wrong to post it here.

Mr. Joe on October 20, 2010 at 7:46 PM

Anyway, she’ll issue an apology tonight and that’ll be it.

SteveMG on October 20, 2010 at 7:41 PM

Maybe, and she should apologize to the family of Helen Chenoweth and the whole country as well.

jdawg on October 20, 2010 at 7:46 PM

She’s like Obama, has a calm temperament, so it makes the incendiary things she says seem more reasonable. Which is much more dangerous in the end.

lizzie beth on October 20, 2010 at 7:31 PM

There’s someone else who says incendiary things with the calmest of voices: Osama Bin Laden.

Coincidence? Hard to say. One thing’s for sure: they both attempt to engage in forms of Anti-American mind control of the masses through lies and deceit. Maybe she digs his style.

OneVision on October 20, 2010 at 7:46 PM

Dingbat63 on October 20, 2010 at 7:42 PM

She is on the American left channel, Glenn, Levin, Hannity, Mike Church and Rose & Bauer are on the Patriot channel which used to be the American Right channel.

fourdeucer on October 20, 2010 at 7:48 PM

angry white men of the right.

bayam on October 20, 2010 at 7:42 PM

Racist.

malclave on October 20, 2010 at 7:48 PM

This is the October Surprise? The LSM lying about conservatives and Republicans? It’s not a surprise and it’s just business as usual. As Bob Shieffer says, “Is this all you’ve got?”

BetseyRoss on October 20, 2010 at 7:49 PM

of course, tim mcveigh is always a “militia member” but no one ever mentions his connection to Elohim city and the american Nazis (racist socialists)..and how the only militia meeting he ever attended he was bodily thrown out. for being a racist socialist.

but he was a CRAZY RIGHT WING MILITIA member. right. sure.

warhorse_03826 on October 20, 2010 at 7:50 PM

Maddow,

Do you know what you are? Yeah, you know what you are.

You know EXACTLY what you are, all right…

Fuzzlenutter on October 20, 2010 at 7:51 PM

Congratulations, Rachel Maddow!

You single-handedly succeeded in taking a promising career as an objective investigative journalist and throwing it on a great big steaming pile of dog crap, which is more than fitting, since 99.99% of MSNBC is made of the same fetid substance!

It will be amazing if anyone takes anything you have to say seriously ever again!

pilamaye on October 20, 2010 at 7:51 PM

Really? You’re comparing one sentence to most of what Glenn Beck says every single day? That’s pretty weak.

I don’t see the hate even beginning to approach what you hear from the angry white men of the right.

bayam on October 20, 2010 at 7:42 PM

So show us the outright angry lies of Glenn Beck.

bluemarlin on October 20, 2010 at 7:52 PM

I certainly hope she considers herself a pundit and not a journalist.

Metro on October 20, 2010 at 7:52 PM

The question is proving it in court. As a public figure Stockman has to prove reckless disregard for the truth in addition to defamation. Very hard to due.

SteveMG on October 20, 2010 at 7:41 PM

Apparently, this is a repeat performance – she’s been corrected before.

I’d say that’s pretty ******* reckless, especially for a “journalist.”

Yeah, it’d probably be a waste of money to sue her, but damn I’d like to see it happen to one of the self-righteous, arrogant, ignorant, malicious MFM.

There has to be a penalty for malicious lies, or they Just Won’t Stop.

Merovign on October 20, 2010 at 7:53 PM

I bet he also wants to take away your social security and Medicare. He probably ships jobs overseas too, and wants to ship more.

Just taking a wild stab at this.

stldave on October 20, 2010 at 7:53 PM

I don’t see the hate even beginning to approach what you hear from the angry white men of the right.

bayam on October 20, 2010 at 7:42 PM

There are none so blind as … you.

Jaibones on October 20, 2010 at 7:45 PM

What, you’ve never heard a hint of anger in Rush?

You may disagree with Maddow, but it’s unfortunate that Hot Air has to turn every position or fact disagreement into a major character issue. One sentence is turned into a major fear-mongering campaign? If that’s the only statement that’s contested, was everything else she said during that broadcast factual?

bayam on October 20, 2010 at 7:53 PM

bayam on October 20, 2010 at 7:42 PM

Rachel? Is that you?

John the Libertarian on October 20, 2010 at 7:53 PM

Really? You’re comparing one sentence to most of what Glenn Beck says every single day? That’s pretty weak.

I don’t see the hate even beginning to approach what you hear from the angry white men of the right.

bayam on October 20, 2010 at 7:42 PM

Good God you leftists have no self-awareness. She accuses someone of conspiracy to commit the second deadliest act of terrorism on US soild, snuffing out hundreds of lives, and your defense is to come here and tell us that we’re the hateful ones, using a racial attack in the very same sentence.

RINO in Name Only on October 20, 2010 at 7:54 PM

He needs to sue.
People cannot ignore this kind of trash. Is this not slander and defamation of character? Conservatives continually ignore this kind of stuff but liberals will sue conservatives over lies they made up themselves.

JellyToast on October 20, 2010 at 7:54 PM

Allahpundit wrote:

How that turned into “advance notice” this time, I don’t know. Check the calendar, I guess.

I know this is PMSNBC, but she doesn’t look bloated to me.

Terrie on October 20, 2010 at 7:56 PM

People really think Maddow is hot? This shakes my worldview to its core.

stldave on October 20, 2010 at 7:39 PM

Sorta makes you wonder about those people, doesn’t it?

silvernana on October 20, 2010 at 7:57 PM

bayam on October 20, 2010 at 7:42 PM

Oh cute! A new troll!

What’s the over/under on the ban-hammer?

IrishEi on October 20, 2010 at 7:58 PM

One sentence is turned into a major fear-mongering campaign? If that’s the only statement that’s contested, was everything else she said during that broadcast factual?

bayam on October 20, 2010 at 7:53 PM

A “fear-mongering campaign” here? You’ve got to be kidding me. All you need to do is read today’s news to see that your buddies on the left are the real pros at this and know how to raise fear-mongering into an art form.

OneVision on October 20, 2010 at 8:00 PM

bayam on October 20, 2010 at 7:53 PM

Good Greif I said DEMOCRATS. My post was not about Rachael Maddow. Its a string of garbage coming out of the left’s mouths again. I dont forget 2003 to 2008 and all the angry bitterness coming from the left. It died down when Obama and the dems got elected but it has always been there. It was snipped at Sarah for years now.

So please read more and speak less until you get better educated.

William Amos on October 20, 2010 at 8:00 PM

I know this is PMSNBC, but she doesn’t look bloated to me

Rimshot.

SteveMG on October 20, 2010 at 8:01 PM

If she doesn’t immediately correct this….she should be fired. No news organization should let someone lie like this.

terryannonline on October 20, 2010 at 8:01 PM

She should be fired if she doesn’t immediately correct this.

terryannonline on October 20, 2010 at 8:02 PM

God, she makes me hot.

Maddow is a very attractive boy and occupies all of my homosexual fantasies.

jfshaughnessy on October 20, 2010 at 8:04 PM

How that turned into “advance notice” this time, I don’t know. Check the calendar, I guess.

well, he just knew it was coming since the GOP and violent extremists are like the same thing n’ such….

/maddow

ted c on October 20, 2010 at 8:05 PM

Can her ass unless she comes correct.

Metro on October 20, 2010 at 8:05 PM

Why are the hot ones always crazy?

Chuck Schick on October 20, 2010 at 7:16 PM

*giggle*

Kensington on October 20, 2010 at 8:05 PM

Tomorrow on a very special Rachel Maddow…

Jesse Ventura presents his theories on sprinkler rainbows

The Ugly American on October 20, 2010 at 8:05 PM

Beneath contempt

clnurnberg on October 20, 2010 at 8:05 PM

God, she makes me hot.

Maddow is a very attractive boy and occupies all of my homosexual fantasies.

jfshaughnessy on October 20, 2010 at 8:04 PM

ya’ll could go join the Army and you’ll be diggin’ her his foxhole in no time…er wait!

ted c on October 20, 2010 at 8:06 PM

You may disagree with Maddow, but it’s unfortunate that Hot Air has to turn every position or fact disagreement into a major character issue.

bayam on October 20, 2010 at 7:53 PM

What’s unfortunate is, deadbeat liberals that defend their darlings for blatantly lying. Why is it that liberals always have to lie and have no shame about doing it? When someone has to blatantly lie about something, they have no character.

No wonder only 12% of Americans, in a recent poll, trust msnbc for their news. Twelve percenter…

BruthaMan on October 20, 2010 at 8:08 PM

IrishEi on October 20, 2010 at 7:58 PM

Nawww…that one’s been around for quite awhile.

BigWyo on October 20, 2010 at 8:09 PM

Unexpectedly unbelievable the depths to which these lying liars will sink.

Dhuka on October 20, 2010 at 8:10 PM

She has manhands.

mrt721 on October 20, 2010 at 8:11 PM

I dont forget 2003 to 2008 and all the angry bitterness coming from the left. It died down when Obama and the dems got elected but it has always been there. It was snipped at Sarah for years now.

I guess it depends on your standard of bitterness. You may see Rush’s broadcasts as filled with hope and optimism, although the uninformed observer will hear anger in his voice. The same can be said of Glenn’s ‘re-education’ campaign- some will see it as beacon of truth against tyranny.

As for Sarah, I don’t buy into her ‘victim’ narrative. Most politicians, like Rudy and Fred, take all the heat the media can muster and come away with flying colors- without whining about it. It’s not the media’s fault that Sarah can’t answer simple questions about the Supreme Court.

bayam on October 20, 2010 at 8:13 PM

This is really bad. I think MSNBC should at least suspend her without pay for a while.

SoulGlo on October 20, 2010 at 8:14 PM

No wonder only 12% of Americans, in a recent poll, trust msnbc for their news.

BruthaMan on October 20, 2010 at 8:08 PM

Welcome to the echo chamber. 12% of Americans watch MSNBC as their main news network. The question wasn’t posited in the way you seem to think it was. You’re reading too many right-wing blogs.

bayam on October 20, 2010 at 8:14 PM

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