Reid accuses Angle of lying about “War is lost” statement

posted at 3:35 pm on October 15, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

He’s not shy about it, either, as Aurelius discovers on Reid’s Twitter and Facebook accounts, as well as Reid’s “fact check” website.  Too bad Harry Reid hasn’t got a clue about YouTube.  While he claims that Angle referenced a remark made on March 3, 2007 about having to reach a political solution to the war in Iraq and not just a military solution, he seems to have missed the video that clearly shows Reid claiming that the war is, well …

This comment came on April 19, 2007, more than a month after the comment Reid claims Angle is misrepresenting. In it, one can get the impression that Reid wants people to think that the war in Iraq had already been lost, because he says, emphasis mine:

Now I believe, myself, that the secretary of state, the secretary of defense and you have to make your own decision as to what the president knows: that this war is lost, that the surge is not accomplishing anything.

Either Harry Reid has gone senile, or he’s trying to fool voters by lying as much as possible rather than giving accountability for his defeatism. It’s difficult to imagine that Reid’s entire campaign has suddenly contracted dementia, which leaves Option 2 as the most likely explanation. It’s a great display of the reason why Nevadans need to end the Reid dynasty in eighteen days.


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The ad writes itself.

First, show the accusation with Harry speaking, or show “factcheck” screenshot.

Then, voice over says, “Harry said he didn’t say that on March 3rd, 2007. He’s right. He said it on April 19th.”

Then play “The war is lost” clip.

Voice Over: “We know who really is lying about the record, and about his opponent. Vote Sharon Angle.”

3 points, guaranteed right there.

JeffWeimer on October 15, 2010 at 5:00 PM

Harry Dotard and the Chamber of Lies

jamie gumm on October 15, 2010 at 5:04 PM

Don’t know what “The League” is, but that line was in “The Karate Kid”.

BobMbx on October 15, 2010 at 4:52 PM

Yes, I know. And it was used to great comedic effect in a Fox cable show last night.

BuckeyeSam on October 15, 2010 at 5:08 PM

Sure seems to me that there’s a great campaign ad, portraying Reid as both a liar and unpatriotic, just waiting to be created.

I’ll leave that to the people who make the big bucks.

OxyCon on October 15, 2010 at 5:09 PM

JeffWeimer on October 15, 2010 at 5:00 PM

You’re giving the GOP waaaaaay too much credit. What seems obvious to us often escapes them.

mankai on October 15, 2010 at 5:10 PM

Harry Reid claims he is a temple worthy member of the LDS faith. For those who know, THAT worthiness is a huge deal. My personal feelings are that Harry should turn in his temple recommend and his bishop should cut it up into little tiny pieces right in front of his face.

He is a liar and a socialist. His votes as a senator are as against his faith as Pelosi’s abortion votes are against hers. And I’m sure both of these despicable minions of Satan justify their votes the same way…..they are just representing their constituency. My answer to them is a big fat Bronx’s cheer! You two are interested in personal power. PERIOD!

csdeven on October 15, 2010 at 5:16 PM

mankai on October 15, 2010 at 5:10 PM

You’re probably right. That’s why we have all these other groups who can now speak within 30 days of an election, and why the Dems are freaking out over it. Tea Party Express, USCoC, are you reading?

JeffWeimer on October 15, 2010 at 5:23 PM

He must think people are stupid. Excuse my French but I heard the SOB when he said it. On the Senate floor. On C-SPAN. In context. With my own ears.

ncborn on October 15, 2010 at 5:25 PM

Harry Dotard and the Chamber of Lies

jamie gumm on October 15, 2010 at 5:04 PM

ROFLMAO!!! I like that!

capejasmine on October 15, 2010 at 5:57 PM

Either Harry Reid has gone senile, or he’s trying to fool voters by lying as much as possible rather than giving accountability for his defeatism.

I’ll go with senile. And his debate performance (let alone his understanding of economics) indicates that his dementia is rapidly progressing.

iconoclast on October 15, 2010 at 6:01 PM

I do believe the election is lost, Harry.

Better vid here with the full quote about the surge included.

Buy Danish on October 15, 2010 at 6:02 PM

Wait – this one’s even better!

Buy Danish on October 15, 2010 at 6:09 PM

Liberal philosophy justifies lying for a perceived “greater good“.

This mentality trumps most other considerations for them.

He’s also suffering cognitive dissonance.

scotash on October 15, 2010 at 6:15 PM

A shameless little worm of a man.

JellyToast on October 15, 2010 at 6:22 PM

Either Harry Reid has gone senile, or he’s trying to fool voters by lying as much as possible rather than giving accountability for his defeatism.

I’ll go with senile. And his debate performance (let alone his understanding of economics) indicates that his dementia is rapidly progressing.

iconoclast on October 15, 2010 at 6:01 PM

Yep, early onset Parkinson’s, aka Muhammad Ali syndrome, likely from his career as an amateur boxer.

slickwillie2001 on October 15, 2010 at 6:23 PM

Hey, Harry, so how did you get to be so rich?

JellyToast on October 15, 2010 at 6:23 PM

YouTube? Is that anything like that CB radio stuff all the youngsters are into these days?

Cicero43 on October 15, 2010 at 6:29 PM

The Democrats are imploding. It is really something to see. Just when I think that they can’t possibly do or say anything dumber they do it. I can hardly believe our good fortune!

ReneePA on October 15, 2010 at 6:31 PM

It’s difficult to imagine that Reid’s entire campaign has suddenly contracted dementia,

Not as hard you’d think. Give it a try. I’ll wait.

TallDave on October 15, 2010 at 6:38 PM

His press office will issue a statement shortly saying he meant the war is lost, unless the country elects an articulate black man as president.

pedestrian on October 15, 2010 at 6:39 PM

A shameless little worm of a man.

JellyToast on October 15, 2010 at 6:22 PM

Please don’t insult the worms. They’re already lower than dirt, but still above Harry Reid.

Steel on October 15, 2010 at 6:48 PM

I despise harry reid. He certainly got Americans killed with that little stunt.

Boxy_Brown on October 15, 2010 at 7:11 PM

How does someone so obviously despicable become Leader of the Senate? Are Nevadans proud to have this scum represent them. Think about how utterly contemptible the person has to be who would support this trash.

volsense on October 15, 2010 at 7:23 PM

I like what Rush says Rush – It Is Harry Reid That Is Extreme And Is A Stranger To The Truth

Nearly Nobody on October 15, 2010 at 7:26 PM

And if he were to win, the MSM will spend the next 6 years as Dingy Harry’s I-didn’t-say-the-war-was-lost Greek chorus.

Knott Buyinit on October 15, 2010 at 7:26 PM

kinda off topic but this is something that has to do with a dem we all know and love.
It’s on Drudge too.

FontanaConservative on October 15, 2010 at 7:27 PM

I do believe that Harry Reid did a little bit too much LDS back in the ’60s…

*rimshot*

ajacksonian on October 15, 2010 at 7:30 PM

It’s not that he lies about what he said, it’s that he’s so shameless about his lies.

I despise him (and many others like him in that regard) for that.

Yakko77 on October 15, 2010 at 7:49 PM

It’s not unusual for Marxists to rewrite history.

NNtrancer on October 15, 2010 at 7:50 PM

To a liberal, what Reid has done is not lying …. it’s “spin”.

To a lawyer, what Reid did is not lying ….. it’s wordsmanship.

Liberals reality is so twisted into knots, it’s a wonder they know their own names.

MsDollie on October 15, 2010 at 7:52 PM

Dingy Harry also stated last night that after he made the statement about the war being lost….that he got with Petraeus and helped put together a better plan.

Watching Reid sit there and try and take credit for the Surge makes me want to throw up.
Reid stated from day one that the surge would not work and his claims about working with Petraeus to finally make this happen is complete bullsh!t:

Bush announced the surge in January of 07…


……Reid stated the “war was lost” in April of 07.

Reid states here that when he made this comment about the war being lost…that somehow translated to working with Petraeus and making the surge a success….WTF???….some serious Pretzel logic when you listen to these words here in April of 2007:


Surge is Counterproductive and Harms Our National Security

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMNhUZUSDJk

Now how this lying maggot makes the jump from putting on this pony show with some military backing about how much a failure the surge is to “I helped Petraeus with the surge” is beyond all logic.

Combine this with the other leadership in the democratic party fighting Petraeus here while he does everything he can to fight the Jihadist over seas……and you can see just how disgusting Reid’s lies are:


Politics vs. Petraeus

Obama 9/12/07:Not in 6 months, Not in 1 year,But NOW!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR8p0bro9RM

Harry Reid is a pathetic,lying liberal who will do anything to retain his power on the Hill…even if it means using the sacrifice of our Soldiers for his political agenda.

Baxter Greene on October 15, 2010 at 7:55 PM

FontanaConservative on October 15, 2010 at 7:27 PM

nice…

cmsinaz on October 15, 2010 at 7:59 PM

Watching democrats like Reid have to spin around and lie about all the cheerleading they did for their anit-war base
is sickening.

Not only is Reid lying about supporting Gen. Petraeus and helping with the surge……he voted in support of the Move on NY Times ad that called Petraeus a liar:


Disgrace: Hillary, Reid, 23 other Democrats vote against resolution expressing support for Petraeus

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/09/20/disgrace-hillary-reid-23-other-democrats-vote-against-resolution-expressing-support-for-petraeus/

Once again…..the mental masturbation that Reid engages in to sit there in front of Americans and say that he supported and helped with the surge is appalling.

Reid not only called Gen. Petraeus a liar with his vote…..he called him a liar straight to the American people:


Harry Reid: No I don’t believe Gen. Petraeus when he says there is progress in Iraq…all you have to do is look at the facts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIGehz9ep1I

….Reid put himself at the forefront of the opposition to the surge.He took the lead in opposing Bush at every turn when it came to fighting the war in Iraq.
Reid,Obama,Biden,and Hillary did everything they could to undermine the mission in Iraq and demonize a President during war time:

The Lies Of Senator Harry Reid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-V1_XTMJRk&feature=related

Enough is enough with these gutless,lying liberals who want to re-write history to cover their political a$$es after spending years calling for surrender…..

After spending years supporting liberal groups that called our Soldiers and a sitting President “liars”,”war criminals”,”child predators”,and “nazis”…….

The bottom line facts are that liberals like Reid sold out this country and our Soldiers for political gain….

….and now they want to act like it never happened.

Go to he!! Harry and take your lying,liberal activist sheep with you.

Baxter Greene on October 15, 2010 at 8:00 PM

Harry Reid has lost his mind. Our Troops, Nevada, and our country deserve better. Retire Reid on Nov. 2.

TN Mom on October 15, 2010 at 8:02 PM

Totally OT: Why is there no indignation, even in us right wing, gun clinger, etc… sites on the issue of NY an IL military being deprived of voting? No threads? Or did I miss it? (US Army (Ret))

Dingbat63 on October 15, 2010 at 8:13 PM

Harry Reid (D) al Qaida, was all too eager to proclaim a victory for our enemies. He hated GWB so much, he was willing to sell his country out and hand a victory to our enemies for political expediency.

January 20th of 2009, he, Nancy, Obama and the media went silent on any negativity coming out of Iraq, whereas for years prior, they were in the media denouncing it and handing out victories for our enemies on a daily basis.

F**k him and the camel he rode into camp on.

BruthaMan on October 15, 2010 at 8:21 PM

Totally OT: Why is there no indignation, even in us right wing, gun clinger, etc… sites on the issue of NY an IL military being deprived of voting? No threads? Or did I miss it? (US Army (Ret))

Dingbat63 on October 15, 2010 at 8:13 PM

The Captain addressed it right here:

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/10/14/illinois-latest-state-to-violate-move-act/

A Republican majority lead House will undoubtedly address it further…..

Baxter Greene on October 15, 2010 at 8:22 PM

Totally OT: Why is there no indignation, even in us right wing, gun clinger, etc… sites on the issue of NY an IL military being deprived of voting? No threads? Or did I miss it? (US Army (Ret))

Dingbat63 on October 15, 2010 at 8:13 PM

I don’t know about other states, but it appears that my state of Washington both needed a waiver yet still provides 51 days for a ballot to arrive (30 days prior, 21 days after the election). Since we have 50,000 military voters, Since my state has a history of corrupt polling practices I was pretty hot until I looked into it some more. Washington is also trying to be able to send ballots via email (probably as pdf’s) so overseas military will get the ballots as quickly as possible.

iconoclast on October 15, 2010 at 8:36 PM

You are right. But, that was yesterday. NO real outrage anywhere that I can see. A GOP majority in Nov does Zip Zero Nada about THIS Damn$ed election cycle!!!! Sorry, I take this personally…I have been in EBF hell hole and was able to vote while serving.

Dingbat63 on October 15, 2010 at 8:41 PM

More proof Angle is going to win.

SouthernGent on October 15, 2010 at 8:43 PM

Harry Reid, in no way, is qualified to be a serious person in the morman church. These people are good people. He is a bad person in ways hey detest.

proconstitution on October 15, 2010 at 8:51 PM

Reid never said the war was lost. He said the war was lost.

That’s right.

madmonkphotog on October 15, 2010 at 9:02 PM

Such sweet, sweet justice if both Harry and his son lose in November. Can you imagine Thanksgiving at the Reid house? Priceless…

Timothy S. Carlson on October 15, 2010 at 9:57 PM

A GOP majority in Nov does Zip Zero Nada about THIS Damn$ed election cycle!!!! Sorry, I take this personally…I have been in EBF hell hole and was able to vote while serving.

Dingbat63 on October 15, 2010 at 8:41 PM

….You are right about a GOP house not taking care of the damage done now,I am just so looking forward to Holder’s DOJ being held accountable for their corruption.
This issue is beyond reproach and we should all take it personally.
Not only does voter fraud damage the backbone of our democracy and further corrode the credibility of government……but to deny the very people who provide these Freedoms the right to practice them is corrupt and despicable.
I appreciate your service and share in your anger about this issue just as many do.

We can e-mail blogs and call representatives on the Hill to make sure they understand how serious the people take this issue.

I think military organizations like the VFW,Blue/Gold Star Moms and many others should also make their voices heard.

Baxter Greene on October 15, 2010 at 10:17 PM

…but to deny the very people who provide these Freedoms the right to practice them is corrupt and despicable.
I appreciate your service and share in your anger about this issue just as many do.
Baxter Greene on October 15, 2010 at 10:17 PM

The crime is beyond obscene, and they’ve been getting away with the urban vote-fraud machines much longer. Hopefully, this will intensify blow-back at the polls.

Feedie on October 15, 2010 at 10:40 PM

Somebody get the fire extinguisher because Harry Reid’s pants are on fire.

SoulGlo on October 15, 2010 at 10:47 PM

A shameless little worm of a man.

JellyToast on October 15, 2010 at 6:22 PM

With apologies to worms…

Dopenstrange on October 15, 2010 at 10:49 PM

A shameless little worm of a man.

JellyToast on October 15, 2010 at 6:22 PM

With apologies to worms…

Dopenstrange on October 15, 2010 at 10:49 PM

I think military organizations like the VFW,Blue/Gold Star Moms and many others should also make their voices heard. Baxter Greene on October 15, 2010 at 10:17 PM

VFW???? YGBSM!!! Oh, that’s right, it was the “VFW-PAC”, not the VFW…even though the VFW-PAC letter that says: FY, we’re endorsing Dingy, Sen I’ve worked hard for the title of Senator Mamn, Pelosi, Grayson, the guy running against LTC Allen West, et al has the freaking logo of the VFW on it???? So, the freaking VFW will intervene? I repeat…YGBSM!!! Plus, did they, and they others not do so 2 days ago????

Am I PO’d? You betcha. Service men and women can’t vote.

Dingbat63 on October 15, 2010 at 10:57 PM

Speaking of war, DEBKAfile is reporting that a missile base in Iran had some explosions. Generally I don’t buy too heavily into DEBKAfile as they tend to assume every military maneuver is a prelude to war but with Stuxnet and now this, things seem to be gathering momentum. Even Iran admit a fire but claim it was accidental and not the result of some strike.

Yakko77 on October 15, 2010 at 11:22 PM

The ad showing Reid’s contradictory quotes would be so powerful it should be shown nation-wide. It would motivate some people to vote the Dems out while demotivating Dem voters. I’d expect that ad to be worth a percent or two in every Senate race in America.

And, of course, Nevada is done; expect the polls to move quickly.

Pythagoras on October 15, 2010 at 11:35 PM

Integrity.

..senility.

The War Planner on October 16, 2010 at 1:22 AM

He’s not shy about it, either, as Aurelius discovers on Reid’s Twitter and Facebook accounts, as well as Reid’s “fact check” website.

I noticed that the word “lost” does not appear anywhere on the fact-check page. He can’t even directly quote his own words, because there is no spin that could possibly redeem them.

RINO in Name Only on October 16, 2010 at 3:14 AM

Aw, it just dingy Harry’s version of back to the future, only he forgot to first go back into the past and avoid that pparticular speechifying bit.

The next thing you know Obama will try to deny that he claimed to be able to stop the seas from rising. Hck, I can do that -every high tide I tell them to “back off!”

Don L on October 16, 2010 at 5:42 AM

Either Harry Reid has gone senile, or he’s trying to fool voters by lying as much as possible rather than giving accountability for his defeatism. It’s difficult to imagine that Reid’s entire campaign has suddenly contracted dementia, which leaves Option 2 as the most likely explanation.

dude. homeboy’s cornered and he’s lashing it and seeing what sticks. Angle has to keep on offense and she’s moving to DC in a few mos.

ted c on October 16, 2010 at 6:55 AM

Reid lies. I’m shocked, shocked, that Reid would scapegoat his own evil upon his opponent.

maverick muse on October 16, 2010 at 8:04 AM

This election cycle, this moment in Nevada proves the majority mindset. Is Nevada the meanest, dirtiest, lying oppressive State in the Union? Or is Nevada sick of their dirtiest most oppressive Senator and is more than willing to shed Reid’s scales from their skin?

maverick muse on October 16, 2010 at 8:09 AM

Really Democrat retards out there. Trust me on this. It’s so much easier in life, taking positions…espousing ideas…that at the end of the day, you’re proud of.

I can’t imagine my life at the level of epic fail, your 21st Century Democrat’s is, lapping up the words of Harry Reid, then and now.

MNHawk on October 16, 2010 at 8:21 AM

Worst decision ever, to replay Cleopatra after Taylor’s exploits. This could mark the beginning of the end for Jolie’s top billing. Will Cameron paint her blue/

maverick muse on October 16, 2010 at 8:31 AM

/ain’t Ace o’ Spade open thread now is it…my bad.

maverick muse on October 16, 2010 at 8:33 AM

I saw this and was astounded when Dingy Harry said General Petraeus is a good friend of his and they discussed this when Reid was in Afganistan. Like he was helping the General out by giving him tips on how to fight a war. Harry also refused to vote on condemning that Move-On.org ad about “General Be-tray-us”. And that’s Harry’s good friend.

Wills on October 16, 2010 at 9:27 AM

Harry Reid claims he is a temple worthy member of the LDS faith. For those who know, THAT worthiness is a huge deal. My personal feelings are that Harry should turn in his temple recommend and his bishop should cut it up into little tiny pieces right in front of his face.

He is a liar and a socialist. His votes as a senator are as against his faith as Pelosi’s abortion votes are against hers. And I’m sure both of these despicable minions of Satan justify their votes the same way…..they are just representing their constituency. My answer to them is a big fat Bronx’s cheer! You two are interested in personal power. PERIOD!

csdeven on October 15, 2010 at 5:16 PM

Also, aren’t Mormons supposed to be pro-life?
He seems to be every bit as Mormon as Obama is Christian.

itsnotaboutme on October 16, 2010 at 9:51 AM

The one I’ll never forgive Reid for, and it’s also the one that’s the least mentioned, is for speaking in front of a bunch of high school kids and calling President Bush a loser. It’s pretty classless to say that about the President of the United States, when you in party leadership, it’s even more classless to say that to high school kids who really deserve the rah, rah speech about how great the country is and do your civic duty, etc. etc.

I’ll probably never vote for a Democrat again anyway, but it’s things like that, that form my opinion of them. They just don’t know when to leave politics behind, it’s all politics to them.

bflat879 on October 16, 2010 at 6:54 PM

What’s truly amazing is the significant percentage that will vote for Harry Reid, regardless of his lying. It’s breathtaking to know that some socialists are so committed to voting for Democrats, NOTHING will dissuade them.

olesparkie on October 18, 2010 at 7:54 AM

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