Ralston: Angle won the debate; Update: TNR wonders what Reid was thinking

posted at 10:55 am on October 15, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

The problem with a demonization strategy based on voter unfamiliarity with a candidate is that the candidate usually gets a chance to either confirm or destroy the impression before an election takes place.  Harry Reid gambled on painting Sharron Angle as a nut, but in the end it was Reid who struggled to explain himself in the only debate in the Senate race for Nevada.  Veteran political analyst Jon Ralston, no fan of Angle, declares her the winner simply by showing Nevadans that she was far from the portrait of a lunatic that Reid had painted:

Angle won because she looked relatively credible, appearing not to be the Wicked Witch of the West (Christine O’Donnell is the good witch of the Tea Party) and scoring many more rhetorical points. And she won because Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid looked as if he could barely stay on a linear argument, abruptly switching gears and failing to effectively parry or thrust.

Ralston is not happy with the outcome — he quotes Percy Bysshe Shelley’s “Ozymandias” and says, “Look upon these works, ye mighty, and despair” — but he also notes that the media reached a consensus on the verdict, at least on Twitter:

NBC’s Chuck Todd: “Reid’s problem tonight is that while Angle wasn’t great, his performance made her look passable.”

Politico’s Dave Catanese: “Utterly subpar.”

Political Wire’s Taegan Goddard: “Reid didn’t knock out Angle but she had him on the ropes. Have to give the edge to Angle …”

Political writer Taylor Marsh may have summed it up best: “Sharron Angle passed the ‘I’m not crazy test’ with flying colors. Focused too. This lady just might pull this off. Reid didn’t take her out.”

Give Ralston some credit here.  It takes a heck of a leap to marry “Ozymandias” with Twitter, but Ralston nails it.  He laments Reid’s terrible performance, starting with a meandering and sometimes incoherent opening statement and continuing through his sarcasm, condescension, and inability to answer Angle’s attacks.  Ralston believes Reid may have talked himself out of his job.

Truthfully, though, Reid talked himself out of his job starting four years ago when he betrayed his constituents and signed onto the radical agendas of Nancy Pelosi and then Barack Obama.  Nevadans had thought they sent an independent, conservative-leaning, pro-life, pro-gun Democrat to the US Senate.  Instead, Reid shilled a massive tax-and-spend agenda.  Sharron Angle just needed to show that she’s not as crazy or extreme as Reid in order to win, and after the last four years, it turns out that her mission wasn’t nearly as tough as Reid’s mission to make her look more extreme than his performance over the past four years.

“Ozymandias” is a poem that speaks to the futility of empire and dynasty.  Although Ralston didn’t mean it in this context, it certainly seems applicable to the Reids, who appear to be heading for ignominious defeat in 2010.

Update: The New Republic wonders why Reid agreed to debate Angle at all, given his strategy of painting her as a lunatic:

Why Harry Reid agreed to have a debate with Sharron Angle is a bit of a mystery to me. If your campaign is based on portraying your opponent as loony, then why give that opponent a chance to look reasonable? Lyndon Johnson never debated Barry Goldwater. Then again, I’m no political strategist. And neither, I’ve come to see, is Harry Reid. So let’s focus on what matters now: that a debate was held in Nevada last night between Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and his Republican challenger Sharron Angle. And its upshot was—sorry, folks—that Angle improved her chances.

T. A. Frank continues with complaints that Angle “lied,” had “far fewer scruples,” and so on, accusing Angle of being in another solar system at one point in the debate.  Clearly, Frank is no fan of Angle, but spends most of the column spanking Reid for being inadequate to the task and questioning his entire strategy.  But that prompts another question: do we want someone running the US Senate who couldn’t find his own closing statement with both hands and a spotlight, literally?

I’m no fan of televised debates, but they’re a fact of life in politics these days (Frank says that LBJ never debated Barry Goldwater, as if that happened last year).  A refusal to engage would be seen as either haughty arrogance or panicked desperation, especially the latter in a case where an entrenched incumbent spent the past several months painting his opponent as an idiot or lunatic, or a little of both.  Reid had no choice but to engage her, and his carefully constructed facade crumbled under the pressure.


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Yes Angle ‘won’ the debate but the only people watching were paid to watch that crap.

Skandia Recluse on October 15, 2010 at 10:57 AM

Reid hearts Scalia.

Mr. Joe on October 15, 2010 at 10:59 AM

Reid hearts the Ritz Carlton in Washington D.C.

Mr. Joe on October 15, 2010 at 10:59 AM

Sharron Angle passed the ‘I’m not crazy test’ with flying colors

Yah because everyone was thinking that going in to this debate.

Charlie H. Crist, where does the media find these twits to write for them?

Bishop on October 15, 2010 at 11:00 AM

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
“My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!”
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away

Mr. Joe on October 15, 2010 at 11:02 AM

I can’t take all this good news! Every week, now almost every day the news gets better I hope Angle gets Harry’s concession phone call on voice mail…and leaks it.

cartooner on October 15, 2010 at 11:03 AM

Angle sure did rattle Reid!!
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Nevada Senate(Angle/Reid) Debate
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http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/296018-1

canopfor on October 15, 2010 at 11:05 AM

I love the irony in Ralston’s misuse of Ozymandias. Good catch, Ed.

darclon on October 15, 2010 at 11:05 AM

I thought Harry looked almost life-like last night.

Vashta.Nerada on October 15, 2010 at 11:06 AM

Reid is a worthless piece of crap.

Ed, you are too kind to him.

He should be nuked off the face of the Earth.

Brian1972 on October 15, 2010 at 11:07 AM

I only watched the last half of the debate, but I did not think Angle came across that well. Some people just are not made for television, and she is one of them.

But I agree that her main task was not to look “crazy”. And she did that fine. And she had a winsome closing statement as well.

WannabeAnglican on October 15, 2010 at 11:07 AM

It’d be hilarious to learn in a few days that the Dems have pulled any remaining money…from Reid.

BuckeyeSam on October 15, 2010 at 11:10 AM

Harry Reid lost me when they were both asked to answer in a single word, yes or no “should English be the official language of the US”. Sharon Angle, without hesitation said yes, Harry Reid not comprehending the question answered with “English is the official language of the US”. Besides listening to the entire debate would be too strenuous on my feeble mind.

fourdeucer on October 15, 2010 at 11:11 AM

When even Reid supporters are saying “he lost” he must have been blown out of the water.

duff65 on October 15, 2010 at 11:11 AM

Give Ralston some credit here. It takes a heck of a leap to marry “Ozymandias” with Twitter, but Ralston nails it

I’m calling Reid “Ozzy” from now on. Not sure if it’s more for Ozymandius or that he has the debate and speaking skills of Ozzy Osborne.

forest on October 15, 2010 at 11:11 AM

From unseen in the headlines:

The economy was a recurrent theme.

Reid took aim at Angle’s statement that it’s not the job of a senator to create jobs. “What she’s talking about is extreme,” he said.

“Harry Reid, it’s not your job to create jobs,” she replied sharply. “It’s your job to create policy” that leads to the creation of jobs.

This was just gold.

Angle out maneuvered and outclassed dingy Harry at every turn last night.

Seeing this lying,corrupt liberal be sent packing after selling out this country and our Soldiers for political gain is going to bring great joy and much partying come Nov. 2……

Baxter Greene on October 15, 2010 at 11:12 AM

(Christine O’Donnell is the good witch of the Tea Party)

Hey, that’s a pretty good line.

O’Donnell to Coons (or to Obama?): “You have no power here! Begone, before somebody drops a house on you, too!”

Missy on October 15, 2010 at 11:12 AM

Sharon Angle did hold her own after a case of the yips at the beginning, but she won because Harry was purely awful.

I did cringe a few times at her answers, but Harry proved to be the typical arrogant, condescending, smarmy politician he is who could not answer a YES or NO question twice.

Adios pal.

tru2tx on October 15, 2010 at 11:13 AM

What a sad day election day will be in the Reid household with both Jr and Sr being tossed to the curb!!

Elizabetty on October 15, 2010 at 11:13 AM

Yes Angle ‘won’ the debate but the only people watching were paid to watch that crap.

Skandia Recluse on October 15, 2010 at 10:57 AM

Could be, but watching it isn’t necessary, becuase voters will hear that she won it, and that’s all that’s needed.

I truly think Reid doesn’t want to win. He wants out.

Missy on October 15, 2010 at 11:14 AM

It’d be hilarious to learn in a few days that the Dems have pulled any remaining money…from Reid.

BuckeyeSam on October 15, 2010 at 11:10 AM

democrats are doubling down on stupid…it’s what they do best:


DSCC Makes Large Ad Buys On Reid’s Behalf

October 13, 2010 4:35 PM |

By Jeremy P. Jacobs
http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2010/10/dscc_makes_larg.php

The DSCC has made significant TV ad reservations in Nevada to bolster Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s (D) campaign against Republican Sharron Angle (R). The reservations are the DSCC’s first in Nevada this cycle.

…this is like paying ahead for another week on the Titanic as it heads for the iceberg.

Baxter Greene on October 15, 2010 at 11:17 AM

I just voted for Rossi.

And can I just say the ballot is so deceiving… this all mail in thing is weird.

Apparently taxing bottled water is such a sacred cow in Washington state that they put it on the ballot twice! And to get rid of it you have to vote yes on one and no on the other! And one of them is worded so it sounds like you are voting against children to get rid of the tax on bottled water!

Democrats are so very very deceptive, because they can’t get their way unless they trick people into voting for their causes.

I hope that this year people in Washington wise up to the games that are being played in this state.

petunia on October 15, 2010 at 11:18 AM

the Reid/Angle debates is a great example of what will happen if there is an Obama/Palin debate.

the problem with attacking your enemy as sometyhing they are not is to disprove/turn the attack you simply have to show up

unseen on October 15, 2010 at 11:20 AM

Perhaps Tennyson’s Ulysses:


“It little profits that an idle king,
By this still hearth, among these barren crags,
Match’d with an aged wife, I mete and dole
Unequal laws unto a savage race,
That hoard, and sleep, and feed, and know not me.”

The War Planner on October 15, 2010 at 11:21 AM

You people who are dumping on Sharron need to man up.

She has the guts to run against the Majority Leader of the US Senate. That is more guts than you have just commenting on a website. If you can’t get behind her shut your f^*ing mouth.

I’m sick to death of so-called “conservatives” who are just too smart to get behind people who have the courage to put themselves in the arena against destructive leftists.

Do better or shut the f^*ck up.

Brian1972 on October 15, 2010 at 11:23 AM

that he has the debate and speaking skills of Ozzy Osborne.

forest on October 15, 2010 at 11:11 AM

“Sharron!”

KingGold on October 15, 2010 at 11:23 AM

He started actually 6 years ago, right after he become minority leader after Daschle was given the boot. I remember seeing him cheering during a rally in April 2005, basking in his newfound fame. He is paying for that fame now.

thebrokenrattle on October 15, 2010 at 11:24 AM

what will happen if there is an Obama/Palin debate.
unseen on October 15, 2010 at 11:20 AM

THAT could be on Pay Per View! EPIC!

tims472 on October 15, 2010 at 11:24 AM

Hey Harry,

THIS ELECTION IS LOST!
Go home and shrivel up…..

SDarchitect on October 15, 2010 at 11:25 AM

I’m calling Reid “Ozzy” from now on. Not sure if it’s more for Ozymandius or that he has the debate and speaking skills of Ozzy Osborne.

forest on October 15, 2010 at 11:11 AM

..or Ozzie Nelson.

The War Planner on October 15, 2010 at 11:25 AM

Harry Reid lost me when they were both asked to answer in a single word, yes or no “should English be the official language of the US”. Sharon Angle, without hesitation said yes, Harry Reid not comprehending the question answered with “English is the official language of the US”. Besides listening to the entire debate would be too strenuous on my feeble mind.

fourdeucer on October 15, 2010 at 11:11 AM

Wasted question. It should have been phrased “are you in favor of making English the only official language of the USA?”

Many countries have multiple official languages.

slickwillie2001 on October 15, 2010 at 11:26 AM

He should be nuked off the face of the Earth.

Brian1972 on October 15, 2010 at 11:07 AM

And the radioactive remains stored at Yucca Flats.

NeighborhoodCatLady on October 15, 2010 at 11:27 AM

I like televised live debates, I enjoy seeing politicians squirm under the lights, especially when they have to do so little interacting with the public otherwise.

Bishop on October 15, 2010 at 11:27 AM

“Man up, Harry Reid,” Angle replied.(Video clip)

“You need to understand that we have a problem with Social Security. That problem was created by government taking money out of the Social Security trust fund.”

And,
===========
Should the Bush tax cuts be(Video Clip)

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2010/10/reid-and-angle-give-lackluster-debate-performance-in-nevada/64622/

canopfor on October 15, 2010 at 11:28 AM

Harry Reid: The election is lost

darwin on October 15, 2010 at 11:29 AM

I’m listening to last night’s Mark Levin Show.

There is a man who stands up for America, no equivocation.

Some of you could learn from him and focus on the real enemy.

Brian1972 on October 15, 2010 at 11:29 AM

Nevadans had thought they sent an independent, conservative-leaning, pro-life, pro-gun Democrat to the US Senate.

I believe more than anything, this is why Reid is in the trouble he is in. We were told(though, I did not vote for him), that as the most powerful man in the Senate, Nevada had never before been in the position it would be in to receive federal aid.

Daily the news reports here confirm that we are last in every possible category regarding federal aid. The one that hit recently, the one I think may be the knock out punch for Reid, is that we are dead last, 51st in federal education funding.

These things combined with our other dubious distinctions, i.e. foreclosure rates, bankruptcy rates and unemployment will hopefully be the death knell for Pinky.

The only thing that has kept him even close is that Sharron, from the beginning has been painted as a kook, and she has certainly given them ammo for the bombardment of their aids pounding home that idea.

Last night, the voters who were iffy because of that saw that she is not a kook. She was nervous and it showed, but she made her points and never stopped smiling.

It was almost painful to watch Harry.

I pray that this is what has sealed his fate.

Jvette on October 15, 2010 at 11:31 AM

Reid was great
/N.Boy

blatantblue on October 15, 2010 at 11:31 AM

“Ozymandias” is it?

I am reminded of the land of OZ where the girl exposes the phoney old white-haired wizard for what he is -a fake, a fraud and a phoney.

Let’s hope everyone in Nevada sees this when it their turn to go behind the curtain (and vote).

Don L on October 15, 2010 at 11:32 AM

Reid was great
/N.Boy

blatantblue on October 15, 2010 at 11:31 AM

I hate him. He is stupid.

Brian1972 on October 15, 2010 at 11:33 AM

(Christine O’Donnell is the good witch of the Tea Party)
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http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_PxZyE6Jgabo/TLgrr0mZmII/AAAAAAAAmsQ/z0EBc-cnKBk/s1600/theo4.gif

canopfor on October 15, 2010 at 11:33 AM

Do better or shut the f^*ck up.

Brian1972 on October 15, 2010 at 11:23 AM

While I don’t agree with your STFU stance, I do agree that the lady has guts. I don’t care that she struggled at times or missed some golden opportunities. What impressed me the most is that she, IMO, comes off as genuine-genuine and very likeable. My hat’s off to her.

Gang-of-One on October 15, 2010 at 11:33 AM

I do believe that the coming tsunami is not only RED, but that it will carry Harry back to private life where he belongs.

Angle, your seat is waiting. Here’s hoping you make us all proud. ;-)

itzWicks on October 15, 2010 at 11:34 AM

…this is like paying ahead for another week on the Titanic as it heads for the iceberg.

Baxter Greene on October 15, 2010 at 11:17 AM

I was thinking that Obama and Pelosi were already in life boats or on the Carpathia waving goodbye to Reid, who had been tied to a railing on the Titanic.

BuckeyeSam on October 15, 2010 at 11:35 AM

It should have been phrased “are you in favor of making English the only official language of the USA?”

Many countries have multiple official languages.

slickwillie2001 on October 15, 2010 at 11:26 AM

Excellent point, then Harry Reid would have had to limit his answer to a single word, which he probably would have said no.

fourdeucer on October 15, 2010 at 11:36 AM

Ozzy had a song about this Congress.

Crazy Train.

Brian1972 on October 15, 2010 at 11:37 AM

…this is like paying ahead for another week on the Titanic as it heads for the iceberg.

Baxter Greene on October 15, 2010 at 11:17 AM

Baxter Greene: Theres gonna be a whole lot of bumping,grind
ing,and scrapeage along the hull for the next
couple of weeks,hehe,ahem!:)

canopfor on October 15, 2010 at 11:38 AM

I’m looking forward to Harry’s concession speech.

desertwanderer on October 15, 2010 at 11:38 AM

Ozzy had a song about this Congress.

Crazy Train.

Brian1972 on October 15, 2010 at 11:37 AM

Brian1972: How about!
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Scorpions – The Zoo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofSlpgdYJB4

canopfor on October 15, 2010 at 11:40 AM

“Prediction?…PAIN”

~Clubber LAngle

Christien on October 15, 2010 at 11:41 AM

Baxter Greene: Theres gonna be a whole lot of bumping,grind
ing,and scrapeage along the hull for the next
couple of weeks,hehe,ahem!:)

canopfor on October 15, 2010 at 11:38 AM

Heh!!!!!

…………Here is Harry’s swan song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgI8bta-7aw

Bye Bye larda$$!!!!!!

Baxter Greene on October 15, 2010 at 11:43 AM

Thus far, I have only seen a few soundbites from the debate, but I liked the one where she zinged Reid on creating jobs. She is right. It is not his job to create jobs. It is his job to create an environment friendly toward entrepreneurial growth, which in turn creates jobs.

The only jobs Reid can create would be for another stooge on the taxpayer payroll to protect him from the odor emanating from members of his constituency.

joedoe on October 15, 2010 at 11:44 AM

Scorpions – The Zoo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofSlpgdYJB4

canopfor on October 15, 2010 at 11:40 AM

This November we are gonna Rock them Like a Hurricane!

Brian1972 on October 15, 2010 at 11:45 AM

What Angle should’ve said to CReid.

Christien on October 15, 2010 at 11:47 AM

Reid hearts the Ritz Carlton in Washington D.C.

Mr. Joe on October 15, 2010 at 10:59 AM

and didn’t they just report a bed bug infestation? Hmmmmm

screwauger on October 15, 2010 at 11:47 AM

I’m looking forward to Harry’s concession speech.

desertwanderer on October 15, 2010 at 11:38 AM

Me, too.

HotAir should collect all the concession speeches from November 2nd and put them up in one post, continually updated. That would be such sweet viewing on November 3rd. Along with the humpbot of course.

Missy on October 15, 2010 at 11:48 AM

I was thinking that Obama and Pelosi were already in life boats or on the Carpathia waving goodbye to Reid, who had been tied to a railing on the Titanic.

BuckeyeSam on October 15, 2010 at 11:35 AM

..whilst Reid is in the Titanic’s radio room desperately sending “CQD..CQD..CQD..”

The War Planner on October 15, 2010 at 11:48 AM

Thus far, I have only seen a few soundbites from the debate, but I liked the one where she zinged Reid on creating jobs. She is right. It is not his job to create jobs. It is his job to create an environment friendly toward entrepreneurial growth, which in turn creates jobs.

The only jobs Reid can create would be for another stooge on the taxpayer payroll to protect him from the odor emanating from members of his constituency.

joedoe on October 15, 2010 at 11:44 AM

One of the quotes by Harry on the front page of the LVRJ this morning is “It is my number one job to create jobs.”

With more than 14% unemployment in NV, Harry has monumentally failed at his job and should lose it.

Jvette on October 15, 2010 at 11:53 AM

Scorpions – The Zoo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofSlpgdYJB4

canopfor on October 15, 2010 at 11:40 AM
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This November we are gonna Rock them Like a Hurricane!

Brian1972 on October 15, 2010 at 11:45 AM

Brian1972: Dats a good one,nicely played!

canopfor on October 15, 2010 at 11:56 AM

OT/ Something to watch. China is not happy with the US and other countries who are highly critical of China’s policy toward its currency:

Currency report set for release ccy report in just over an hour
Written by Jamie Coleman
October 15, 2010 at 15:44 GMT

1:00 pm Washington time, 17:00 GMT, according to the Treasury Department.

If the US brands China a currency manipulator, I assume the dollar will drop out of bed and bond yields will soar as the markets guess that China will punish the US by dumping Treasuries.

http://www.forexlive.com/

Fasten your seat belts.

Cody1991 on October 15, 2010 at 11:56 AM

Reid spents well over $10 million painting Sharron Angle as a “wild-eyed, incohent, foaming-at-the-mouth dignbat”…and then when the “beast” was trotted out she was EXACTLY the opposite!

SHE was the coherent, intelligent and forthright one. HE was the bumbling and doddering old fool who couldn’t find his own notes on a podium in front of him!!!!!!!!

It’s real clear Nevada!!

Justrand on October 15, 2010 at 11:56 AM

Why is this race even close? That’s the scary part.

texanpride on October 15, 2010 at 11:58 AM

I wrote here that this is the beginning of the end for Harry Reid.

LFRGary on October 15, 2010 at 11:58 AM

Raltson’s damage control.

Yeah, Angle made Reid look horrible, but here’s just how horrible she is since Reid couldn’t make these points last night.

Typical Democrat trying to pretend to be unbiased while “reporting”.

ButterflyDragon on October 15, 2010 at 12:00 PM

I love the irony in Ralston’s misuse of Ozymandias. Good catch, Ed.

darclon on October 15, 2010 at 11:05 AM

Now if only people would use the terms “Uncle Tom” and “Sour Grapes” in the proper context.

csdeven on October 15, 2010 at 12:01 PM

You people who are dumping on Sharron need to man up.

She has the guts to run against the Majority Leader of the US Senate. That is more guts than you have just commenting on a website. If you can’t get behind her shut your f^*ing mouth.

I’m sick to death of so-called “conservatives” who are just too smart to get behind people who have the courage to put themselves in the arena against destructive leftists.

Do better or shut the f^*ck up.

Brian1972 on October 15, 2010 at 11:23 AM

Thanks for that comment, Brian1972. When I read Stephen Moore’s article on Sharron Angle in the WSJ in July, I saw her in an entirely different light.
online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704682604575369093396496532.html

ziggyville on October 15, 2010 at 12:01 PM

Yes Angle ‘won’ the debate but the only people watching were paid to watch that crap.

Skandia Recluse on October 15, 2010 at 10:57 AM

Really? You know that? How do you know that? The people of Nevada have no interest in making an informed choice when they go to the polls in November so they completely ignored the one and only debate? Wow!

dczombie on October 15, 2010 at 12:05 PM

I’m calling Reid “Ozzy” from now on. Not sure if it’s more for Ozymandius or that he has the debate and speaking skills of Ozzy Osborne.

forest on October 15, 2010 at 11:11 AM

..or Ozzie Nelson.

The War Planner on October 15, 2010 at 11:25 AM

What an insult to Ozzy Nelson! Reid is probably wishing he was Mr. Nelson right now.

Susanboo on October 15, 2010 at 12:06 PM

One thing Harry Red is not,is pro-life.

BruceB on October 15, 2010 at 12:07 PM

Dingy looked and sounded like a tired and confused old man…

d1carter on October 15, 2010 at 12:10 PM

We were told(though, I did not vote for him), that as the most powerful man in the Senate, Nevada had never before been in the position it would be in to receive federal aid.

Jvette on October 15, 2010 at 11:31 AM

If that is what Nevadans are after in their elected officials, I am sad for NV & a little PO’d they expect aid from the feds when they ought to be doing stuff on their own.
I would wager most state reps are elected for that very reason: to bring home the bacon.
Citizens complain about the bacon brought home to other states by their reps, but cheer when their reps brings them some bacon.
SICKENING

Badger40 on October 15, 2010 at 12:18 PM

One thing Harry Red is not,is pro-life.

BruceB on October 15, 2010 at 12:07 PM

And it baffles me how he can consider himself being LDS, like Pelosi somehow can consider herself a Catholic.
Mormons are overwhelmingly conservative.
You have but to read the Church’s proclamation on the family to know that.
Reid evidently does not have the proclamation on his refrigerator like I do.

Badger40 on October 15, 2010 at 12:20 PM

You know about John Ralston? Have you read the Dan Riehl pieces about Ralston?

moochy on October 15, 2010 at 12:26 PM

Angle missed a golden opportunity to nail Dingy to the floor on the millionaire issue. When he said he was on a ‘fixed income’, she should have said -”folks, this illustrates how out of touch Senator Reid is after thirty years in Washington; he doesn’t know what ‘fixed income’ means. Senator, you are not on a ‘fixed income’ if you get to vote yourself a fat raise every year, as you have.”

slickwillie2001 on October 15, 2010 at 12:27 PM

Ralston is a total leftist tool…you know it killed him to admit that Sharron gained…even begrudgingly…

DCJeff on October 15, 2010 at 12:32 PM

I’m no fan of televised debates,

That’s a pretty interesting statement for a guy at the vanguard of New Media. Care to elaborate?

JonPrichard on October 15, 2010 at 12:46 PM

And it baffles me how he can consider himself being LDS, like Pelosi somehow can consider herself a Catholic.
Mormons are overwhelmingly conservative.
You have but to read the Church’s proclamation on the family to know that.
Reid evidently does not have the proclamation on his refrigerator like I do.

Badger40 on October 15, 2010

There are some things more powerful in the hearts of men than religious mores. Why did Adam and Eve eat the apple? I suspect that the lust for power is at the root of Reid and Pelosi’s particular brand of evil.

JonPrichard on October 15, 2010 at 12:49 PM

“What was Harry Reid thinking?” Does he even know how to think? All he knows how to do is spout talking points and he doesn’t even do a good job doing that.

Beaglemom on October 15, 2010 at 12:50 PM

Sorry, I think I meant Legal Insurrection, not Dan Riehl.

moochy on October 15, 2010 at 12:59 PM

I truly think Reid doesn’t want to win. He wants out.

Missy on October 15, 2010 at 11:14 AM

Nobody leaves the mob, not alive anyway.

Extrafishy on October 15, 2010 at 1:04 PM

and his carefully constructed facade crumbled under the pressure.

The reaper is dead, from more than one perspective.

The ants are happy.

Schadenfreude on October 15, 2010 at 1:07 PM

Reid had no choice but to engage her, and his carefully constructed facade crumbled under the pressure.

I also have to take issue with this ‘carefully constructed facade’ wording. What facade was he trying to construct anyway? He reminds me of one of these villains in a Stephen King movie. The guy you don’t mind seeing get eaten by the monster or killed by the crazy person(just in the movies of course).

kangjie on October 15, 2010 at 1:38 PM

Jon Ralson is the NV local version of Keith Olbermann. If he thinks Angle won, you damn know she won and won big.

angryed on October 15, 2010 at 1:55 PM

I loathe Reid and contributed my entire political allowance to Angle to get rid of him. He is simply a traitor to the country.

Boxy_Brown on October 15, 2010 at 2:15 PM

I’m no fan of televised debates, but they’re a fact of life in politics these days (Frank says that LBJ never debated Barry Goldwater, as if that happened last year). A refusal to engage would be seen as either haughty arrogance or panicked desperation, especially the latter in a case where an entrenched incumbent spent the past several months painting his opponent as an idiot or lunatic, or a little of both. Reid had no choice but to engage her, and his carefully constructed facade crumbled under the pressure.

If Reid had refused to debate Angle, she could have run ad after ad protraying him as afraid to discuss the issues. Debates are standard procedure in politics–they give the voters the opportunity to compare the candidates directly without the filter of paid ads intended to favor one candidate over the other.

The fact that Reid agreed to only one debate (most campaigns agree to three) already demonstrates that Reid did not want to allow Angle too much time to tear down his “extreme” portrayal of her in his ads. This decision may have backfired on Reid, because he now does not have another debate to offer his rebuttal.

Steve Z on October 15, 2010 at 2:18 PM

If that is what Nevadans are after in their elected officials, I am sad for NV & a little PO’d they expect aid from the feds when they ought to be doing stuff on their own.
I would wager most state reps are elected for that very reason: to bring home the bacon.
Citizens complain about the bacon brought home to other states by their reps, but cheer when their reps brings them some bacon.
SICKENING

Badger40 on October 15, 2010 at 12:18 PM

Yes it is. A lot of it had to do with Yucca Mountain that has been demagogued to no end by the liberals here. That and the promise of pork were enough to get him another six years.

Now, we hear that Yucca is still on the wish list of states producing nuclear power. Harry has nothing this time around.

It is up to whether or not people truly think Sharron is a nutjob.

Jvette on October 15, 2010 at 2:26 PM

Angle won the moment Harry Reid tried claiming that Bush squandered a 7 trillion dollar surplus from Clinton.

The man obviously has something wrong with his brain.

MFn G I M P on October 15, 2010 at 2:33 PM

The man obviously has something wrong with his brain.

MFn G I M P on October 15, 2010 at 2:33 PM

It is so stuffed with Senate rules on how to screw the minority and DNC talking points, that little bits of issues just spew out randomly. He mentioned a reference Angle made to BP in his closing statement, and it had never come up in the debate. It just spilled out of his brain with no connection to reality and not even in a complete sentence.

txmomof6 on October 15, 2010 at 3:06 PM

Pelosi Reid Obama: a perfect storm of evil and lust for power.

Dhuka on October 15, 2010 at 3:25 PM

I would wager most state reps are elected for that very reason: to bring home the bacon.
Citizens complain about the bacon brought home to other states by their reps, but cheer when their reps brings them some bacon.
SICKENING

Badger40 on October 15, 2010 at 12:18 PM

I agree that the appropriations system is a total racket designed to allow incumbents on Capitol Hill to buy votes using everybody else’s money, but let’s remember that the “bacon” everyone is cheering when it’s brought home, belonged to the people doing the cheering in the first place – the federal government confiscated it from them at one time.

One man’s pork is another man’s restitution, in another words. As long as the government keeps taking money from people, the people are going to keep trying to get it back & cheering when they’re successful.

That’s why it’s been so hard to reform Congress’ vote-buying racket. Probably the only way we’re ever end their power to redistribute their ill-gotten gains in exchange for votes is to take away their unlimited power to confiscate it in the first place.

leilani on October 15, 2010 at 3:39 PM

Another solar system? Funny I thought there was only one planetary system that orbited the star Sol…

clement on October 15, 2010 at 5:01 PM

And the radioactive remains stored at Yucca Flats.

NeighborhoodCatLady on October 15, 2010 at 11:27 AM

Do you mean Yucca Mountain? Obama closed it.

Who is John Galt on October 15, 2010 at 10:48 PM

HotAir should collect all the concession speeches from November 2nd and put them up in one post, continually updated. That would be such sweet viewing on November 3rd. Along with the humpbot of course.

Missy on October 15, 2010 at 11:48 AM

THIS. Are you listening, Allah?

Who is John Galt on October 15, 2010 at 10:53 PM

canopfor on October 15, 2010 at 11:38 AM
Heh!!!!!

…………Here is Harry’s swan song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgI8bta-7aw

Bye Bye larda$$!!!!!!

Baxter Greene on October 15, 2010 at 11:43 AM

Baxter Greene: Thats a great example,and with the coming
Tidal wave,I think the Fitzgerald was shoved
under by a monster Wave and torpedoed into
the great lakes floor and broke apart,simi
lar to the,PappyD61′s TeaNami!

Btw,my uncle was on the Anderson that fate
ful night!

canopfor on October 16, 2010 at 4:51 AM