Jerry Brown to Meg Whitman: Hey, that “whore” conversation was private

posted at 10:37 am on October 13, 2010 by Mary Katharine Ham

The California gubernatorial candidates met Tuesday night for a high-stakes final debate riddled with political cliches, like “high-stakes,” a maid eruption, degrading name-calling, and Tom Brokaw. Brokaw let Jerry Brown and Meg Whitman duke it out over budgets and unions for a good 40 minutes before delving into the headline-grabbing stories in the race.

Brown was on defense for most of the night as Whitman’s more TV-friendly style allowed her to deliver smooth answers and attack Brown consistently without seeming unfriendly. But Brown’s worst moment came when asked about a telephone recording, in which one of his staff, unaware he was being recorded, called Whitman a “whore.” Brown made several excuses for the name-calling, even wondering aloud whether it was legal to tape his “private” conversation, but ultimately delivered a half-hearted apology to Whitman. The exchange:

Brokaw: “We’ve heard no outrage from you about the use of that kind of language, which to many women, is the same as calling an African-American the n-word. Have you been in charge of the investigation to find out who’s responsible for using that phrase?”

Brown: “I don’t agree with that comparison, No. 1. Second, this is a 5-week-old conversation picked up on a cell phone with a garbled transmission, very hard to detect who it is. This is not, well, I don’t want to get into the term and how it’s used, but I would say the campaign apologized promptly and I affirm that apology tonight.”

The audience, which was quite active, winced and booed noticeably at Brown’s answer, but Whitman mistepped herself when Brown asked her if she had chastised her campaign chair Pete Wilson for calling the congress “whores” to public employee unions. The audience laughed loudly at Whitman’s incomplete response— “That’s a completely different thing.”—but Brown bailed her out by making yet another excuse for the “whore” comment.

“It’s unfortunate. It was a private conversation,” Brown said. “I’m not even sure it’s legal ’cause you have to get the consent of all the parties and there’s lots of people talking, so again, Ms. Whitman, I’m sorry it happened.”

Judging by the fact that even MSNBC was focusing on Brown’s gaffe this morning, not Whitman’s, I’m gonna declare her the winner on this one.

View more news videos at: http://www.nbcbayarea.com/video.

NOW endorsed Brown one day after the “whore” story broke, giving him a pass on that, among other comments you wouldn’t imagine a NOW member would approve of:

Amy Siskind, president of the feminist group The New Agenda, told The Daily Caller that Brown has a pattern of disrespecting women. “I think [we are] getting a really good sense now of the tone of Jerry Brown’s campaign as far as his own personal views, not only of Meg Whitman but of women in general, and it’s very disturbing,” Siskind said.

Siskind’s group reports that during his initial foray as governor, during the late 1970s and early 1980s, Brown was unapologetically hostile toward working mothers. “More women should be in the home, taking care of their children. Then we’d have fewer social problems,” they quote Brown as having said.

It’s almost as if NOW is just a left-leaning political group willing to give cover to any and every gaffeing Democrat, not a women’s group.

Other highlights:

Watching two Californians argue over who dislikes teachers’ and public-employee unions more. The times, they are a-changing. Whitman repeatedly argued that she was in a position to take on unions, attempting to turn her self-funded campaign into a positive: “I will not owe anything to anyone except for the voters of California.”

Whitman cracking up at a Brown gaffe, in which he almost said he had the police in his “back pocket.”

Plenty more video, here.

Mary Katharine Ham is a writer/videoblogger for The Daily Caller these days. In between Tucker’s mandatory bow-tie-tying boot camps, she edits videos, which end up here and here. Come visit sometime!


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Brown was the Governor of California once before, wasn’t he? How did that turn out? I don’t remember.

Skandia Recluse on October 13, 2010 at 10:41 AM

No, Jerry. If the conversation was private we wouldn’t have known your wife (or someone else) called Ms. Whitman a whore.

Oink on October 13, 2010 at 10:41 AM

BTW, Jerry, speaking of private conversations, have you paid Gloria Allred’s retainer yet?

Vashta.Nerada on October 13, 2010 at 10:42 AM

Bbbbbbbbut, I didn’t mean for you to hear us calling you a whore. You were never supposed to hear that. Earmuffs!!!

dczombie on October 13, 2010 at 10:43 AM

Jerry, ya think that you’d remember from your days back in the seminary that character is defined as how you act, what you say, and with whom you associate when there is nobody looking at you.

coldwarrior on October 13, 2010 at 10:43 AM

If you’re leaving a voicemail message, you are implicitly granting your permission for the message to be recorded, since that is the medium of delivery. You’re the dumbass who forgot to hang up the phone, Moonbeam. Therefore, if anyone is liable for someone being recorded without their knowledge, it’s YOU.

fusionaddict on October 13, 2010 at 10:44 AM

Hey, a MKH post! I think Brown may pull this one out unless we’re looking at a true wave election. And I’ll say it again, I think that a Brown win(much like Cuomo in NY) would be good for the GOP and the respective states in the long run. Until a healthy majority of voters in each state gets their collective head out of their you-know-what and understands why they’re in the mess they’re in, nothing will ever improve.

Doughboy on October 13, 2010 at 10:44 AM

MKH posting on Hot Air is full of win.

amerpundit on October 13, 2010 at 10:44 AM

LOL
“My comments were inappropriate, and I apologize” would do.

blatantblue on October 13, 2010 at 10:44 AM

I swear I thought he was about to call her a B!tch for listening to the “private conversation.”

Elizabetty on October 13, 2010 at 10:44 AM

MKH posting on Hot Air is full of win.

amerpundit on October 13, 2010 at 10:44 AM

Not Green Room either. Real deal!

blatantblue on October 13, 2010 at 10:45 AM

Jerry then followed that up with…

“Hey Meg, how much for an hour anyway?”

Mr. Joe on October 13, 2010 at 10:45 AM

The man sounds senile when he speaks and does not know how to hang up a phone. And he has the gall to get snippy with Meg about his campaign staff calling her a whore?! Wow.

Y-not on October 13, 2010 at 10:46 AM

It’s almost as if NOW is just a left-leaning political group willing to give cover to any and every gaffeing Democrat, not a women’s group.

Actually, based on their complete history, not to mention the parade of left wing leaders they have had, from Steinem on down, NOW has been a left-leaning political group from Day One. And that is all they have been!

They have NEVER been a women’s group, and they damn well know it!

pilamaye on October 13, 2010 at 10:46 AM

Judging by the fact that even MSNBC was focusing on Brown’s gaffe this morning, not Whitman’s, I’m gonna declare her the winner on this one.

MKH is correct. Barnacle and Willie Geist (Joe and Mika weren’t around today) and even Tina Brown (Daily Beast) were dumping on Brown for the surly way that he handled this. Of course, Charles Blow arrived to assure viewers that this won’t make any difference.

BuckeyeSam on October 13, 2010 at 10:46 AM

Brown was the Governor of California once before, wasn’t he? How did that turn out? I don’t remember.

Skandia Recluse on October 13, 2010 at 10:41 AM

Twice, actually. And his Dad was Governor too.

In his first term, Junior had a budget surplus. It was all downhill from there, culminating when he wanted to establish a California Space Academy. That’s part of what gave him the name “Moonbeam”.

Del Dolemonte on October 13, 2010 at 10:47 AM

Private? Oh well, then that fixes everything.

hoosiermama on October 13, 2010 at 10:47 AM

It’s almost as if NOW is just a left-leaning political group willing to give cover to any and every gaffeing Democrat, not a women’s group.

Almost? Almost?! You said that tongue-in-cheek, huh?

cartooner on October 13, 2010 at 10:47 AM

I have the police chiefs in my back, uh, er … I have their backing. Yeah, that’s it … their backing.

darwin on October 13, 2010 at 10:47 AM

I didn’t like her answer either ” my whore comment was different”. It didn’t come off well. But it defiantly a race that conservatives can win.

The Election Day Tea Party has made of list of The Top 50 Races YOU Can Help to Win

Nearly Nobody on October 13, 2010 at 10:47 AM

Nothing is private anymore…..

hawkman on October 13, 2010 at 10:47 AM

“Have you been in charge of the investigation to find out who’s responsible for using that phrase?”

Why is an investigation needed? Brown was in the room, fully engaged in the conversation in which it was said.

Y-not on October 13, 2010 at 10:48 AM

Jerry then followed that up with…

“Hey Meg, how much for an hour anyway?”

Mr. Joe on October 13, 2010 at 10:45 AM

Better yet, the Rodney Dangerfield line from Caddyshack: “How’d you like to earn forty bucks the hard way?”

BuckeyeSam on October 13, 2010 at 10:48 AM

It’s an offensive term to be sure, but any women here want to take a crack at this:

We’ve heard no outrage from you about the use of that kind of language, which to many women, is the same as calling an African-American the n-word.

YYZ on October 13, 2010 at 10:50 AM

His doubling-down on the word, arguing semantics was a foolish mistake. Meg was right not to take the bait, despite the crowd’s reaction. I think Brown’s true nature came through quite clearly, although such ungracious behavior never ceases to shock me.

P.S. What exactly is wrong about calling congress whores to special interests/unions? They…are. As Meg said, quite a different thing and I actually wish she’d clarified that. Of course, I understand the sensitivity, decorum, etc., but…there actually is a difference.

Bee on October 13, 2010 at 10:50 AM

FTA: …Second, this is a 5-week-old conversation picked up on a cell phone with a garbled transmission, very hard to detect who it is.

I can understand listeners not being able to discern who made the whore comment, but Brownie himself doesn’t know who made the statement on his own phone call? Anyone believe that? After the whore comment, Brownie says something like “I’m going to use that”. Meg should have pounded him on that as well.

slickwillie2001 on October 13, 2010 at 10:51 AM

Her laughing at the police chief remark made me laugh too.

As for the “whore” comment being private, what is Brown trying to say, that yes he’s a misogynist but never in public?

Bishop on October 13, 2010 at 10:51 AM

Brown … there’s nowhere to hide in the age of the internet.

darwin on October 13, 2010 at 10:52 AM

The moonbeam has dimmed considerably. Not sure that it ever shined that brightly. Maybe it was the drugs.

Extrafishy on October 13, 2010 at 10:52 AM

That’s rich. He leaves the message and neglects to hang up the phone, and it’s perhaps illegal to keep recording him? Even better: he’s the attorney general but he’s “not even sure” if it’s legal or not. You’re doing a heck of a job, Moonbeam.

SD on October 13, 2010 at 10:53 AM

Didn’t Liberal Linda Rondstadt dedicate a SONG to Governor Moonbeam?

When both Bill Clinton and Linda Rondstadt, think you SUX you really SUX.

Dr Evil on October 13, 2010 at 10:53 AM

The man sounds senile when he speaks and does not know how to hang up a phone. And he has the gall to get snippy with Meg about his campaign staff calling her a whore?! Wow.

Y-not on October 13, 2010 at 10:46 AM

It’s been long rumored that Brown is a raging alcoholic. He isn’t senile, just drunk.

rockmom on October 13, 2010 at 10:54 AM

a high-stakes final debate riddled with political cliches, like “high-stakes,” a maid eruption, degrading name-calling, and Tom Brokaw.

Heh.

If it weren’t for the fact that bailing out California is going to drop another $10k or so of debt on each of my kids, I’d say they should re-elect Moonbeam just for the entertainment value alone.

mikefln on October 13, 2010 at 10:55 AM

Hey, Jerry. While you’re checking out the legality of the taped phone conversation, check out the legality of the maid that Gloria Allred is representing. You know, the one who admitted to committing felonies like identity theft and being in the country without permission. You’re the AG, and this woman is breaking the law on your turf. You’ll never have an easier arrest and prosecution than this one, so hop on it, will ya?

joejm65 on October 13, 2010 at 10:57 AM

MKH is correct. Barnacle and Willie Geist (Joe and Mika weren’t around today) and even Tina Brown (Daily Beast) were dumping on Brown for the surly way that he handled this. Of course, Charles Blow arrived to assure viewers that this won’t make any difference.
BuckeyeSam on October 13, 2010 at 10:46 AM

Saw this. Barnacle: “It was the worst prepared answer to a question in a debate you knew would be asked I’ve ever seen.”

The only thing funnier on the show was “Donnie Deutch” (or whatever) and how the Chamber of Commerce money attack was full of all kinds of win for the libs. Even Charles Blow rolled his eyes.

Marcus on October 13, 2010 at 10:57 AM

How is that a gaffe for Whitman? It is a completely different context. They are a parliament of whores.

Jim-Rose on October 13, 2010 at 10:58 AM

OK, the contrarian view:

Too much is being made over this. I really don’t want our side to be held to the same standards as we’re demanding of Brown & crew.

How many of you condemned George W.’s “major league asshole” off-mike statement? What language do you use describing Nancy Pelosi, right here on HA?

We’re grownups, we can handle this without the feigned outrage.

Bat Chain Puller on October 13, 2010 at 10:58 AM

“It’s unfortunate. It was a private conversation,” Brown said. “I’m not even sure it’s legal ’cause you have to get the consent of all the parties and there’s lots of people talking, so again, Ms. Whitman, I’m sorry it happened.”

Brown is probably hoping that voters forget this conversation was recorded by a POLICEMAN, because the previous phone call Brown made was to ask the police union for their endorsement. Brown calls the cops to ask for their endorsement, forgets to hang up the phone, his aide calls his opponent a whore while a cop is listening, and this is supposed to be a “private” conversation? Don’t the police have the right to record all incoming calls?

Meanwhile, the cop on the phone is thinking…this guy could be our boss if he’s elected, maybe we should make this public so he’s NOT elected!

Steve Z on October 13, 2010 at 11:01 AM

Nah. I heard it on the radio. Brokaw and the audience were completely stacked in Brown’s favor.

Aside from the fact that Brokaw got Mushy Meg to throw Palin under the bus so Mittens could feel good (at least for one night), I don’t think it was a terribly good night for the Megster.

victor82 on October 13, 2010 at 11:03 AM

Brown was the Governor of California once before, wasn’t he? How did that turn out? I don’t remember.

Skandia Recluse on October 13, 2010 at 10:41 AM

..where to start? Diamond lanes, Rose Bird, pathetic economy (in concert with Jimmuh Carter), dating Linda Rondstadt, driving an old Plymouth, sleeping on a futon, constant assaults in Proposition 13, giving the public service unions a big boost, and, in general, a bad hangover from the late sixties and too much disco blow.

It, like Ol’ Moonbeam, are things better left stored in the attic.

The War Planner on October 13, 2010 at 11:05 AM

I’ll say this one more time: Seriously, Cali? Jerry?Brown?

Christien on October 13, 2010 at 11:05 AM

Is it just me or are Jerry Brown and Joe Biden the same person?

joepub on October 13, 2010 at 11:06 AM

How many of you condemned George W.’s “major league asshole” off-mike statement? What language do you use describing Nancy Pelosi, right here on HA?

Bat Chain Puller on October 13, 2010 at 10:58 AM

..how can one be condemned for speaking the truth?

The War Planner on October 13, 2010 at 11:07 AM

How could things get any worse for the state of California? Over budget, drowning in debt, funding pensions for state employees with monopoly money, wasting greenbacks on going green. Who could possibly save them?

Jerry Moonbeam Brown.

Yeh, sure. That’ll work.

fogw on October 13, 2010 at 11:08 AM

Even if Ms. Whitman is elected what in the world can she do with that state legislature? Maybe their salaries and perks need to be made public. I am sure it won’t reach the outrage of Bell but people are tired of paying for no results.

Cindy Munford on October 13, 2010 at 11:10 AM

I heart MKH

John the Libertarian on October 13, 2010 at 11:10 AM

Bat Chain Puller on October 13, 2010 at 10:58 AM

That comment was about a reporter, not the opposing candidate. There’s a time and a place. For example, Cheney told Leahy to GFY, but didn’t tell Edwards the same during the VP debate when Silky made the comment about Cheney’s daughter. Ironically, Edwards turned out to be the one who followed Cheney’s advice.

Christien on October 13, 2010 at 11:11 AM

still waiting on my 3rd OPTION…………

Hello? anyone with a brain & soul out there willing to wage a write-in campaign????

SDarchitect on October 13, 2010 at 11:11 AM

That’s clearly former Governor Jerry Brown’s voice calling Meg Whitman a whore, Man up(sic) Jerry and just admit it.

borg on October 13, 2010 at 11:12 AM

***

The only thing funnier on the show was “Donnie Deutch” (or whatever) and how the Chamber of Commerce money attack was full of all kinds of win for the libs. Even Charles Blow rolled his eyes.

Marcus on October 13, 2010 at 10:57 AM

I missed that. Usually, Deutsch is too busy trying to scam dates with anyone who might talk to him. It’s funny he and the Newsweek guy each must be 5’0″. Even Mika towers over them.

BuckeyeSam on October 13, 2010 at 11:12 AM

Mary Katharine Ham is a writer/videoblogger for The Daily Caller these days. In between Tucker’s mandatory bow-tie-tying boot camps,

heh!! +4

ted c on October 13, 2010 at 11:12 AM

YYZ on October 13, 2010 at 10:50 AM

It is deeply offensive to me, however, I’m not looking for “outrage.” I prefer a gentlemanly instinct that says at the very moment someone says such a thing, “We have no room for that filthy gutter talk in this campaign, or ever.”

DrMagnolias on October 13, 2010 at 11:14 AM

I am not even sure it is legal….

Um, aren’t you like the California Attorney General or something? Heck of a job Moonbeam!

bluemarlin on October 13, 2010 at 11:15 AM

OT: Don’t know if this appeared earlier, but word is that RFK Jr. will be endorsing Charlie Crist today. That’s the ‘big’ announcement.

Chomsky Dance Recital on October 13, 2010 at 11:16 AM

Meanwhile Senator Ma’am was sending aid to our enemies…

http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/10/barbara-boxer-approved-code-pink-trip-to-fallujah-to-donate-600000-to-extremists-to-murder-us-soldiers/

$600,000 to aid people who had killed our troops. That sounds a little like treason to me.

UnderstandingisPower on October 13, 2010 at 11:17 AM

All she needs to say is we’ve had 40+ years of this guy….

When is enough, enough?

golfmann on October 13, 2010 at 11:18 AM

…during the late 1970s and early 1980s, Brown was unapologetically hostile toward working mothers. “More women should be in the home, taking care of their children. Then we’d have fewer social problems,” they quote Brown as having said.

This is one reason I actually have a soft spot for Governor Moonbeam–I’m tired of all the pretending that there are no downsides or trade-offs for our decisions. If a politician says what he believes, I don’t want him to apologize or back off.

DrMagnolias on October 13, 2010 at 11:19 AM

Mary Katharine Ham is a writer/videoblogger for The Daily Caller these days. In between Tucker’s mandatory bow-tie-tying boot camps, she edits videos, which end up here and here. Come visit sometime!

…and a regular interruptee on the BOR show.

slickwillie2001 on October 13, 2010 at 11:20 AM

Jerry Brown: Hey, I only call women whores in private.

applebutter on October 13, 2010 at 11:21 AM

http://spectator.org/archives/2010/10/11/californias-green-nightmare

For every 3 businesses that move into California, 100 move out due to CA regulatory nightmare.

(business relocation expert in the article has compiled a database)

California- choose wisely in Nov.

journeyintothewhirlwind on October 13, 2010 at 11:22 AM

So what he is saying is if you slander someone in private it’s ok? As long as it is said in the privacy of your own home or office and infront of people who agree with the slanderous comment it’s ok?

milwife88 on October 13, 2010 at 11:22 AM

I’m a woman-last time I checked anyway-and on FB I occasionally refer to leftist-women as wh*res.
I won’t apologize for it because sometime the term fits and if someone wants to call me that…whatever-because it’s just a word that has no power over me.

annoyinglittletwerp on October 13, 2010 at 11:23 AM

“I’m sorry it happened.”

= I’m sorry you’re so stupid that you don’t understand my intentions

= I’m sorry that this comment was played on the news

= I’m really, really sorry that we’re talking about this in a debate and people are booing me

= I’m not the slightest bit bothered at calling you a whore, Meg, or at references to women as whores in general. STFU.

Jaibones on October 13, 2010 at 11:35 AM

National security secrets are fair game, though, right Moonbeam?

N. O'Brain on October 13, 2010 at 11:36 AM

She should have replied:

You are right, it was a private matter, but is identity theft a private matter? I DO NOT want you to investigate my former housekeeper and the employment agency that I used, but that is me, a private citizen.

YOU on the other hand, are the Attorney General and have personal knowledge of criminal identity theft. YOU have chosen to use Niki for your private political ambitions, but have failed in your Public duties to investigate criminal identity theft.

What other laws have you not investigated for your own political purposes? Have you not investigated or prosecuted cases for friends? We know you haven’t worked this case, so we know you decide on personal political grounds. Is that in keeping with your oath?

barnone on October 13, 2010 at 11:40 AM

It’s been long rumored that Brown is a raging alcoholic. He isn’t senile, just drunk.

rockmom on October 13, 2010 at 10:54 AM

Ti many martooni’s will do that.

GrannyDee on October 13, 2010 at 11:45 AM

…and a regular interruptee on the BOR show.
slickwillie2001 on October 13, 2010 at 11:20 AM

If it wasn’t THE most watched show on cable news, she should dump the segment. Since Juan is always saying something foolish and unsubstantiated, BOR is always jumping in. BOR should let her do it.

But it IS the most watched show on cable news, now for over 10 years. So she takes it like a Big Girl and waits for her opportunity, like getting a gig at here.

barnone on October 13, 2010 at 11:46 AM

Jerry Brown is a has-been. He likes to say that he’ll “support all the laws” as governor (the death penalty) – yet this is the same Jerry Brown, Attorney General, who would not defend Prop 8.

GarandFan on October 13, 2010 at 11:53 AM

Brokaw: “We’ve heard no outrage from you about the use of that kind of language, which to many women, is the same as calling an African-American the n-word. Have you been in charge of the investigation to find out who’s responsible for using that phrase?”
Brown: “I don’t agree with that comparison, No. 1.

So according to Brown callin an honorable woman a WHORE is not nerely as bad as callin an African American a word that they frequently call each other!

So ya all feel free to go home tonight and call your neighbors wife a WHORE and tell me how that worked out for ya tomorrow!

dhunter on October 13, 2010 at 11:55 AM

Next week, the Brown campaign strategizes about using the word “c*nt” in attack ads against Whitman; NOW gives tacit approval.

BobMbx on October 13, 2010 at 12:04 PM

Moonbeam

J_Crater on October 13, 2010 at 12:05 PM

Even better: he’s the attorney general but he’s “not even sure” if it’s legal or not. You’re doing a heck of a job, Moonbeam.

SD on October 13, 2010 at 10:53 AM

Beat me to it.

Moonbeam’s petulant demeanor reminds me of my 8 year old grand-nephew every time I pull his hand out of the proverbial cookie jar. Rather comical.

Gang-of-One on October 13, 2010 at 12:12 PM

what a putz

cmsinaz on October 13, 2010 at 12:15 PM

..oh, well, in that case, silly me.

Alden Pyle on October 13, 2010 at 12:26 PM

How many of you condemned George W.’s “major league asshole” off-mike statement?

Bat Chain Puller on October 13, 2010 at 10:58 AM

Why should we have condemned W. for calling Adam Clymer of the NY Times that name? Dubyah was after all telling the truth. And he wasn’t referring to the person he was running against.

Now, if Dubyah had referred to Jeanne-Claude Kerri as a whore during the 2004 campaign I would see where you are coming from. Of course, had Dubyah actually said that, he’s be telling the truth there as well!

Del Dolemonte on October 13, 2010 at 1:08 PM

OK, the contrarian view:

Too much is being made over this. I really don’t want our side to be held to the same standards as we’re demanding of Brown & crew.

How many of you condemned George W.’s “major league asshole” off-mike statement? What language do you use describing Nancy Pelosi, right here on HA?

We’re grownups, we can handle this without the feigned outrage.

Bat Chain Puller on October 13, 2010 at 10:58 AM

You just don’t get it.

We’re ALREADY being held to these standards. We are NOW playing by the libs’ rules. They’ve been doing this forever and now we’re making them live up to their OWN Alinsky playbook.

fossten on October 13, 2010 at 2:02 PM

It’s an offensive term to be sure, but any women here want to take a crack at this:

We’ve heard no outrage from you about the use of that kind of language, which to many women, is the same as calling an African-American the n-word.
YYZ on October 13, 2010 at 10:50 AM

—-
I think a definitive answer would come from a black female.

centre on October 13, 2010 at 2:18 PM

Now, if Dubyah had referred to Jeanne-Claude Kerri as a whore during the 2004 campaign I would see where you are coming from. Of course, had Dubyah actually said that, he’s be telling the truth there as well!

Del Dolemonte on October 13, 2010 at 1:08 PM

Not quite tellin the truth. Jon Cary is no Whore as whores work for a living. Jon Cary is a Giggalo who does not work but merely leeches off the incomes of other far better men than himself.
Jon Cary acquires stuff like Purple Hearts not through work or sacrafice but through obfiscation and subtrafuge.

Like scratchin his butt with a grain of rice and demanding a purple heart for an injury that a bandaid and no time off work would fix. Basically Jon Cary is a waste of air, but not a whore.

dhunter on October 13, 2010 at 2:38 PM

Most of us women are adult enough not to take personal offense at the coarseness now so common.

A moment’s thought about the realities of prostitution, the danger, desperation (slavery is not too strong a word) make it a pretty sad insult. Most are there due to being addicts/alcoholics, but while their choices are held to be beneath contempt, their clientele is guilty of no more than an amusing pecadillo.

There are enough degrading insults being thrown around that we women can’t really claim to be victims. More than enough for everybody. It’s a waste of energy to be offended.

jodetoad on October 13, 2010 at 3:22 PM

This is a guy whose Kool Aid you REALLY don’t want to drink.

Fighton03 on October 13, 2010 at 3:24 PM

… Brown made several excuses for the name-calling, even wondering aloud whether it was legal to tape his “private” conversation …

At best, this is an incompetant statement, and at worst it is a direct THREAT towards his political opponents!

IF there are any other recordings, or other reports, that people may have, will they be interested in placing their lives in the jeopardy of legal attacks by the State Attorney General?

Jerry Brown is a labor union stooge whose campaign is funded, in the hundreds of millions, by those same corrupt public labor unions. As governor, Jerry Brown will willingly participitate in attempting to raise taxes in California by 30+ Billion dollars a year. These new taxes, and fees, will destroy virtually all economic activity!

Freddy on October 13, 2010 at 4:20 PM

There are enough degrading insults being thrown around that we women can’t really claim to be victims. More than enough for everybody. It’s a waste of energy to be offended.

jodetoad on October 13, 2010 at 3:22 PM

+infinity

annoyinglittletwerp on October 13, 2010 at 5:40 PM

Brown: “I don’t agree with that comparison, No. 1. Second, this is a 5-week-old conversation picked up on a cell phone with a garbled transmission, very hard to detect who it is.

Its a fairly limited amount of people Gov.

Who was in the room with you when it was said?

We know of this because the Gov. failed to hang up the phone, making his phone a “hot mike”.

DSchoen on October 13, 2010 at 9:48 PM

..how can one be condemned for speaking the truth?

The War Planner on October 13, 2010 at 11:07 AM

Not just that, this was a personally attack. Bush may have made a disparaging remark about somebody, but that was out of frustration.

This comment was directed at her character, implying that she’s unethical and morally bankrupt. There’s emphatically no feigned outrage, it’s legit.

Moreover, Brown’s “apology” was contrived. He’s been using dirty tactic since the beginning of the campaign (i.e. the maid and saying she’s unfit to be gov). This incident showed his character and ineptitude. A resounding example why he’s an incompetent candidate.

Cr4sh Dummy on October 14, 2010 at 1:16 AM