Foot bandits strike in Greece!

posted at 12:15 pm on October 11, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Recall that Barack Obama warned Americans in August 2009 that we need ObamaCare to protect us from doctors who choose amputations over treatment because they supposedly make more profit and lower their costs by conducting the surgery rather than treating the underlying diabetes.  At the time, I pointed out that this was a particularly ignorant statement, given that endocrinologists don’t perform amputations, and that their incentives would not change at all if feet had to be amputated or not.  The Daily Caller reports today that the Foot Bandits are actually those who have to pay for the treatment needed to save limbs — and in a government run system, such as the one in Greece, that means more feet on the chopping block:

This Saturday, one of Greece’s most respected newspapers, To Vima, reported that the nation’s largest government health insurance provider would no longer pay for special footwear for diabetes patients.  Amputation is cheaper, says the Benefits Division of the state insurance provider.

The new policy was announced in a letter to the Pan-Hellenic Federation of People with Diabetes. The Federation disputes the science behind the decision of the Benefits Division. In a statement, the group argues that the decision is contrary to evidence as presented in the international scientific literature.

So what?  The government, er, foots the bill.  They get to make the call on what they want to spend money.  Thanks to the nationalized health-care system, the Greeks don’t have any choice in the matter, except for the very wealthy who can afford to travel outside of Greece for their medical care and supplies.

In a free-market system, an insurer who made this kind of decision would see their customers move to the competition.  In a system with third-party payers limited only to catastrophic health coverage, most diabetics would have the money necessary to buy their own footwear.  In either case, it would mean that the patients and the doctors would make the decision on amputations, and not a government bean-counter looking to save a few bucks by maiming his fellow citizens.

On a related note, Rasmussen gives some good news on national unhappiness with ObamaCare.  After two weeks of serious drops in support for repealing the bill, this week’s survey shows the gap returning to 16 points, 55/39.  However, the underlying mood is less negative on ObamaCare than ever:

The majority of U.S. voters continue to favor repeal of the new national health care law but are slightly less emphatic about the impact the law will have on the country.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 55% of Likely U.S. Voters at least somewhat favor repeal of the new health care law.  Only 39% oppose repeal.  These figures include 41% who Strongly Favor repeal and 32% who are Strongly Opposed. …

But 41% now say the new health care law will be good for the country, the highest level of optimism measured since early July.  Forty-nine percent (49%) still believe the law will be bad for the country, but that’s the first time that belief has fallen below 50% since March. In prior surveys, those thinking the law will be good for America have ranged from 32% to 41%; in those same surveys, 49% to 57% have predicted it will be bad for the county.

Last week’s survey put repeal at only +6, 50/44.  Independents this week now favor repeal 56/36, where the previous survey had it at 51/44.  The same 43% of indies still strongly favor repeal, with 13% now “somewhat” favoring it, up from 8% last week.  One reason for this variation may be that jobs and economic policies have taken a more central position in the Republican midterm effort, especially taxes.  ObamaCare gets somewhat less attention than it did this spring and summer.

The GOP still has to make its argument on ObamaCare in order to maintain momentum for its repeal.  Otherwise, they may not find their mandate on firm, er, footing in the next Congress.

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Funny…I thought the foot bandits did it for money, not because amputations are cheaper!

gryphon202 on October 11, 2010 at 12:19 PM

Defund this nightmare. Then repeal and replace.

petefrt on October 11, 2010 at 12:21 PM

The Daily Caller reports today that the Foot Bandits are actually those who have to pay for the treatment needed to save limbs — and in a government run system, such as the one in Greece, that means more feet on the chopping block:

heh…you couldn’t write this stuff any better…

what goes around comes around.

ted c on October 11, 2010 at 12:21 PM

would no longer pay for special footwear for diabetes patients. Amputation is cheaper, says the Benefits Division of the state insurance provider.

What a chilling statement…but exactly how a government bureaucrat would react.
The reason? Because he/she would be following the “law”, and the “law” would be, whatever is less expensive and efficient.
Legalism, is the bane to a free society…

right2bright on October 11, 2010 at 12:22 PM

With so many wonderful examples of why ObamaCare just can’t possible work. Why is the administration still trying to sell it so hard? Are they this stupid, or are the conspiracy theorists correct? Is the administration intentionally trying to destroy the country from within?

Tommy_G on October 11, 2010 at 12:23 PM

The thrill of victory….

and the agony of Defeet.

Good Solid B-Plus on October 11, 2010 at 12:23 PM

Obamacare is being revealed for the horrible bill that it is…step by step.

kingsjester on October 11, 2010 at 12:24 PM

Better learn to hop light, ’cause here come the tonsil vultures!

Christien on October 11, 2010 at 12:24 PM

Benefits Division of the state insurance provider

Is this Greek for “Death Panels”?

Tommy_G on October 11, 2010 at 12:25 PM

Does that male doctor have a ponytail?

Blake on October 11, 2010 at 12:25 PM

No one but the nutjob hick from Wasilla, Alaska (so they call her) is out there in a forceful way making the case that the OBAMACARE is bad for America and the future………….Why wouldn’t people be lulled back to sleep about it? Most of the taxes haven’t hit yet, benefits are way off.

We’ve got lots of work to do to keep up the pressure or it’s over for this country (and it may be too late even now).

PappyD61 on October 11, 2010 at 12:27 PM

Good Solid B-Plus on October 11, 2010 at 12:23 PM

Enough with your smelly feat–C YA, BYE!

Christien on October 11, 2010 at 12:29 PM

Blake on October 11, 2010 at 12:25 PM

I believe it is Patch Adams.

Cindy Munford on October 11, 2010 at 12:32 PM

Joe Biden calls these guys “dentists”…

right2bright on October 11, 2010 at 12:33 PM

One reason for this variation may be that jobs and economic policies have taken a more central position in the Republican midterm effort, especially taxes.

Stockholm Syndrome on a national scale.

tru2tx on October 11, 2010 at 12:33 PM

Cindy Munford on October 11, 2010 at 12:32 PM

Never mine, that guy look to young to be Dr. Adams.

Cindy Munford on October 11, 2010 at 12:38 PM

Does that male doctor have a ponytail?

Blake on October 11, 2010 at 12:25 PM

Yes. His name is Peggy.

loudmouth883 on October 11, 2010 at 12:38 PM

ED- you missed the siren at the end!

Greece’s National Healthcare System was created in the early 1980s, during the tenure of Prime Minister Andreas Papandreou. Papandreou, an academic, won election under the slogan, Αλλαγή, which is the Greek word for Change.

So 30 years before the consequences were felt in Greece. Do you think that we, with the state of the economy right now, have 30 years before we feel the negative consequences of Ocare?

journeyintothewhirlwind on October 11, 2010 at 12:42 PM

Is amputation really cheaper than footwear? That doesn’t seem possible.

Cindy Munford on October 11, 2010 at 12:48 PM

Andy Griffith must be asking himself “How did I get to this point?”

JohnGalt23 on October 11, 2010 at 12:49 PM

By the time this Lame Duck congress is over there’s going to be a mountain of momentum to repeal an entire list of bills, I think.

FloatingRock on October 11, 2010 at 12:50 PM

Shoulda said: a mountain of momentum to repeal a bevy of bills.

FloatingRock on October 11, 2010 at 12:53 PM

The Greeks are going to have to live with a more spartan healthcare system.

Bishop on October 11, 2010 at 12:54 PM

Is amputation really cheaper than footwear? That doesn’t seem possible

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Kind of agree. I wonder what this foot ware costs in Greece?

jeanie on October 11, 2010 at 12:54 PM

For most of Obama’s liberal women appointments, hoofs would be more appropriate.

right2bright on October 11, 2010 at 12:56 PM

Christ, of course amputation isn’t cheaper. Ed, this is going to have the chilling effect of keeping diabetics from seeking treatment, in order to keep their feet. Which will have the result of their infections getting much worse, forcing a leg amputation, or killing the patient outright.

redshirt on October 11, 2010 at 12:58 PM

The government, er, foots the bill.

Ed will be here all week. Don’t forget to tip your waitress.

Emperor Norton on October 11, 2010 at 12:59 PM

Kind of agree. I wonder what this foot ware costs in Greece?

jeanie on October 11, 2010 at 12:54 PM

The tricky part is for every left foot, they need to take a right foot, otherwise, too many shoes lying around.
Once you amputate the foot, you don’t have to have the special shoes, and if you get a wound on the foot/toe, it takes forever to heal, and often end up amputating a toe.
Having lived with someone with diabetes, I could see where “off with the foot” is more “reasonable”.
Which reminds me of a funny joke…

right2bright on October 11, 2010 at 1:01 PM

or killing the patient outright.

redshirt on October 11, 2010 at 12:58 PM

No your making sense…this is the way to save money…

right2bright on October 11, 2010 at 1:02 PM

Bishop on October 11, 2010 at 12:54 PM

Not spartan, just a government monopylae.

Christien on October 11, 2010 at 1:06 PM

Andy Griffith must be asking himself “How did I get to this point?”

JohnGalt23 on October 11, 2010 at 12:49 PM

This morning, I saw Andy’s third different ad for medicare. According to Andy, it’s all covered, it’s all guaranteed, it’s all free…and we’re gonna love it.

What a hoax. Barney Fife, Floyd the Barber, Ernest T. Bass notwithstanding, I will never watch The Andy Griffith Show again.

BuckeyeSam on October 11, 2010 at 1:19 PM

Ed will be here all week. Don’t forget to tip your waitress.

Emperor Norton on October 11, 2010 at 12:59 PM

Brings to mind the Restaurant at the End of the Universe! Perhaps a too fitting analogy.

FloatingRock on October 11, 2010 at 1:24 PM

We need to repeal Obama to the point that he never existed.

That would fix a lot of things.

NoDonkey on October 11, 2010 at 1:27 PM

Is amputation really cheaper than footwear? That doesn’t seem possible.

Cindy Munford on October 11, 2010 at 12:48 PM

Ongoing repeated costs vs one-time amputation. One pair of special shoes is cheaper, but 20 years worth, and the amputation pays out.

And the next step, of course, is that is is much cheaper to let the patient die than to provide long-term care. Death panels, anyone?

iurockhead on October 11, 2010 at 1:30 PM

The thrill of victory….

and the agony of Defeet.

Good Solid B-Plus on October 11, 2010 at 12:23 PM

Ouch! Sorry, no points; too pedestrian.

FalseProfit on October 11, 2010 at 1:33 PM

No show could ever compare to the literary work, but here is one representation of the Restaurant at the End of the Universe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucNYLsjKaTQ

FloatingRock on October 11, 2010 at 1:36 PM

I’m sure the patient could sue, but the lib judge would kick it out of court because the plaintiff doesn’t have a leg to stand on…. Ok, I’ll take my lumps for that one.

hip shot on October 11, 2010 at 1:51 PM

I’m sure the Greek health care service has a group that studies “comparative effectiveness” and they determined that amputation was a more effective treatment.

/s

Kafir on October 11, 2010 at 1:54 PM

They’ll never get anywhere now, constantly walking in a big circle…

Hog Wild on October 11, 2010 at 1:55 PM

But would prosthetics be less expensive than footwear? Or do they just chop off the foot and leave the patient to walk around on a stump?

Rose on October 11, 2010 at 2:00 PM

So the Greek health care system is pushing their patients to get their feet amputated. That’d never happen in a country like Great Britain.

So Great Britain is denying cancer medicines to patients. That’d never happen in a country like Canada.

So Canada has a severe doctor shortage because their income is restricted by the government. That’d never happen in a country like the U.S.

Never say never.

hawksruleva on October 11, 2010 at 2:30 PM

And the next step, of course, is that is is much cheaper to let the patient die than to provide long-term care. Death panels, anyone?

iurockhead on October 11, 2010 at 1:30 PM

Cheaper still is to keep people from being born at all. Say, why does my water taste funny?

hawksruleva on October 11, 2010 at 2:32 PM

Wait til they hear about the 3% sales tax when you sell your home that’s in the bill, and other gems.

Kissmygrits on October 11, 2010 at 2:34 PM

So the Greek health care system is pushing their patients to get their feet amputated. That’d never happen in a country like Great Britain.

So Great Britain is denying cancer medicines to patients. That’d never happen in a country like Canada.

So Canada has a severe doctor shortage because their income is restricted by the government. That’d never happen in a country like the U.S.

Never say never.

hawksruleva on October 11, 2010 at 2:30 PM

I know how Obama could stop the Dr shortage: Compulsory service.

Badger40 on October 11, 2010 at 2:38 PM

Wait til they hear about the 3% sales tax when you sell your home that’s in the bill, and other gems.

Kissmygrits on October 11, 2010 at 2:34 PM

To he!! with reading it.
I like to just sit around & wait to see what’s in it.
Reading through something before you sign it is way overrated.

Badger40 on October 11, 2010 at 2:39 PM

Recall that Barack Obama warned Americans in August 2009 that we need ObamaCare to protect us from doctors who choose amputations over treatment because they supposedly make more profit and lower their costs by conducting the surgery rather than treating the underlying diabetes

Under Obamacare, political appointees, not doctors, will be the ones who choose amputations over treatment!!!

Isn’t that better?????

In a related story, political employees in the Obama administration give Texas disaster victims the finger

…feel better now???

landlines on October 11, 2010 at 3:23 PM

These polls annoy me, since most people have no fargin’ CLUE what’s in the health care bill anyway.

Dilettantes.

disa on October 11, 2010 at 3:24 PM

Amputation is cheaper, says the Benefits Cut Division of the state insurance provider.

chickasaw42 on October 11, 2010 at 4:09 PM

Amputation is cheaper, says the Benefits Cut Division of the state insurance provider.

chickasaw42 on October 11, 2010 at 4:13 PM