Kos: Hey, maybe it’s time to give up on Meek and back Charlie Crist

posted at 4:52 pm on October 8, 2010 by Allahpundit

Hey, maybe it was time to do that three months ago.

This is conservative Stephen Moore, in the conservative Wall Street Journal, talking about GOP fears that a deal between Crist and Meek may be in the works. Indeed, a party interesting in trying to win the seat would be hard at work in trying to forge a deal. Splitting the left isn’t doing anyone but Rubio any favors. The GOP knows this. The Democratic establishment pretty much knows this.

The only question left is whether Meek knows this. His options at this point are pretty much to lose on November 2, or to not lose by passing the baton to Crist. There’s no way he’ll be in the Senate next January.

That’s not to say that Crist can win. I’m pretty pessimistic about Florida’s Senate race no matter what happens at this point. But if you’re going to have a loser in the race that’s not Rubio, I’d rather it be Crist than Meek. And at least with Crist we have a fighting chance.

Yeah, this is why I’m still — a little — nervous about this race. A Crist/Meek deal seems likely because it’s the only rational option at this point. I know it, you know it, Kos knows it, Crist knows it, the Democrats know it — everyone knows it except, apparently, Kendrick Meek. I’d love to know what his thought process is here, whether he’s refusing to drop out due to simple pride as the Democratic nominee or whether he’s thinking that he’ll run again at some point down the line and can’t afford to have the “quitter” stigma attached to him or whether he’s just trying to drive a hard bargain with Obama for an appointment. He vowed last night after the Journal piece came out that he won’t quit because he’s “taking a stand against the radical right,” which of course is insane. What he’s actually doing is gift-wrapping a Senate seat for the so-called “radical right” by making the rest of the campaign a cakewalk for Rubio, to the point where Rasmussen now has it Marco 50, Charlie 25, Kendrick 19. Frankly, with numbers like that, it may be too late for a deal to save the race for Democrats. But then, maybe they were doomed all along: Rasmussen notes that Rubio picked up nine, count ‘em nine, points since last week’s poll, likely thanks to the televised debate held a few nights ago. I’ll bet a lot of Crist-supporting centrist Republicans who hadn’t paid much attention to the race tuned into that and were surprised to find Sunshine Charlie sounding a lot more like a Democrat than they ever suspected he would. Presto change-o, suddenly Rubio has a bunch of new moderate conservatives in his column. Probably inevitable.

Now then: Let’s conduct a thought experiment. Close your eyes and think of Charlie Crist in all his opportunistic careerist principle-less glory, then try to imagine the precise opposite of what he stands for. What word, if you had to come up with just one, would be the perfect antonym for the Crist ethos? Okay — now you’re ready to watch the clip below. Enjoy.


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Wow, are those pants he is wearing or pajama bottoms. What a nancy boy.

carbon_footprint on October 8, 2010 at 4:55 PM

Rubio is Kos’ worst nightmare. He is young, Latino, charismatic – and conservative. I’m not surprised to see Kos hit the panic button here.

rockmom on October 8, 2010 at 4:56 PM

Close your eyes and think of Charlie Crist in all his opportunistic careerist principle-less glory, then try to imagine the precise opposite of what he stands for. What word, if you had to come up with just one, would be the perfect antonym for the Crist ethos?

i’m theenking but the only thing that comes down the chute is “Wonka Bar”….

sorry

ted c on October 8, 2010 at 4:56 PM

dude–pleated slacks? WTF jack? Maybe some of that Wonka Caramel on your hands could allowed you to hang on to that ball long enough to actually send it within 10 feet of the catcher….

jus sayin…

ted c on October 8, 2010 at 4:58 PM

Rubio beats either one of them head-to-head.

Ronnie on October 8, 2010 at 4:58 PM

Is there a word in the English language that is the exact antonym of “unprincipled closeted orange spineless worm”?

Good Solid B-Plus on October 8, 2010 at 4:58 PM

yeah, that’s not the word that came to mind.

kerrhome on October 8, 2010 at 4:58 PM

I know Meek released a hard hitting ad against Crist, but has Rubio hit him hard as well? If they can double team Crist, maybe Meek will stay in and chance it.

I don’t live in Florida so I don’t know if Rubio is sticking to positive campaigning or not, we all know it doesn’t work against a snake like Crist.

Daemonocracy on October 8, 2010 at 4:58 PM

I cannot believe Crist made an ad about integrity.

That’s right up with denying voting with Pelosi 97% of the time.

INC on October 8, 2010 at 4:58 PM

Charlie Crist = that word….(I won’t spoil it for others)

I literally lauged out loud.

aquaviva on October 8, 2010 at 4:59 PM

Throw the black guy under the bus so the Hispanic guy doesn’t win? Is that what Kos is advocating?

DaydreamBeliever on October 8, 2010 at 4:59 PM

Indeed, a party interesting in trying to win the seat would be hard at work in trying to forge a deal.

Shouldn’t that be “interested”? The Kos writers…

Charlie is a harlot, a tiny man, in all regards.

Schadenfreude on October 8, 2010 at 4:59 PM

Rubio is the next Reagan: He’ll permanently shift the country and hispanics to the right.

TimTebowSavesAmerica on October 8, 2010 at 5:00 PM

Good Solid B-Plus on October 8, 2010 at 4:58 PM

dude, you’ve outdone yourself on that one…! +1

ted c on October 8, 2010 at 5:01 PM

Kos is smarter than all the dolts who backed O’Donnell. I’ll give him that.

Mark1971 on October 8, 2010 at 5:03 PM

Rasmussen now has it Marco 50, Charlie 25, Kendrick 19. Frankly, with numbers like that, it may be too late for a deal to save the race for Democrats.

Indeed. Let’s assume every, single Democrat who was going to vote for Meek voted for Crist instead — highly unlikely — but let’s assume.

That puts the race at 50, 44. A six-point gap anywhere else spells Likely GOP. It would in Florida, too.

amerpundit on October 8, 2010 at 5:03 PM

Alex Sink doesn’t want Meek to quit. She needs high black turnout.

Jon0815 on October 8, 2010 at 5:06 PM

Integrity! Hoo-hah! That’s rich!

What is also snort-worthy is the Florida state graphic at the end (while he’s approving the message) looks rather like, um, well, maybe I shouldn’t even go there….. :P

tru2tx on October 8, 2010 at 5:06 PM

So if all the Meek voters shift to Crist, Rubio is ahead 50-44 with 6% undecided. If they split evenly or don’t vote, Rubio wins 53-47.

Crist picked exactly the wrong time to ditch Republicans and embrace Obama, when Obama’s Porkulus and ObamaCare “awakened a sleeping giant” against him, and Rubio is exactly what Florida needs right now.

Sorry, Charlie. You made your bed with Obama, now sleep in it, and you can weep alligator tears on the shoulder of Arlen Specter.

Steve Z on October 8, 2010 at 5:07 PM

Is that the shadiest looking picture they could come up with for Rubio? lol Yeah, good luck with that.

sisterchristian on October 8, 2010 at 5:08 PM

What word, if you had to come up with just one, would be the perfect antonym for the Crist ethos?

Wow. Has Crist hired some retirees from Pravda to run his campaign?

Buy Danish on October 8, 2010 at 5:10 PM

Is that the shadiest looking picture they could come up with for Rubio? lol Yeah, good luck with that.

sisterchristian on October 8, 2010 at 5:08 PM

Evidently.

amerpundit on October 8, 2010 at 5:12 PM

Will blacks vote for orange? Just another opportunity for the Democrats to show minorities what they mean to them really.

Cindy Munford on October 8, 2010 at 5:13 PM

Wait, that ad has to be a joke right? It has to be a Rubio (or Meeks) fake ad. There is no way Crist is that idiotic to try to recapture the race by focusing on integrity and specifically misuse of Republican party funds. Is he?!?

wardrobedoor on October 8, 2010 at 5:15 PM

I don’t see Meeks backing Crist in anyway, he would look like a fool for very little gain. His name will still be on the ballot and he’ll get 10 to 15% on that basis alone, no matter what he says publicly.

whbates on October 8, 2010 at 5:17 PM

The meek shall inherit a kick to the curb?

CWforFreedom on October 8, 2010 at 5:18 PM

Kos reads Hot Air.

unclesmrgol on October 8, 2010 at 5:19 PM

When you watch the video watch the eyes of the lady who says Crist is the man. Her eyes tell you she is dishonest.

CWforFreedom on October 8, 2010 at 5:19 PM

I”m still confused over how Crist, Mookoowski, et al think it’s a better idea to fight for a seat during a conservative-wave election than to just wait for the next round. Is the feeding trough in DC really THAT good they can’t survive a couple years without it?

darury on October 8, 2010 at 5:20 PM

There is no way Crist is that idiotic to try to recapture the race by focusing on integrity and specifically misuse of Republican party funds. Is he?!?

wardrobedoor on October 8, 2010 at 5:15 PM

That is what is so funny, he is running lots of Ads in the Gainsville/Ocala market (radio & TV) saying the same thing even weeks after the news about his high dollar Disneyworld and Keys vacations on the party’s dime. It’s surreal.

whbates on October 8, 2010 at 5:21 PM

Is the feeding trough in DC really THAT good they can’t survive a couple years without it?

darury on October 8, 2010 at 5:20 PM

YES

CWforFreedom on October 8, 2010 at 5:22 PM

Wow. The only word I can come up with to describe that Crist ad is “shameless.”

irishspy on October 8, 2010 at 5:23 PM

Throw the black guy under the bus so the Hispanic guy doesn’t win? Is that what Kos is advocating?

DaydreamBeliever on October 8, 2010 at 4:59 PM

Very well put. Hypocrisy or irony? Can’t decide.

tru2tx on October 8, 2010 at 5:23 PM

I saw that ad for the first time today and about threw up.

txag92 on October 8, 2010 at 5:24 PM

Throw the black guy under the bus so the Hispanic guy doesn’t win? Is that what Kos is advocating?

DaydreamBeliever on October 8, 2010 at 4:59 PM

Very well put. Hypocrisy or irony? Can’t decide.

tru2tx on October 8, 2010 at 5:23 PM

Blatant racism.

the_nile on October 8, 2010 at 5:26 PM

Oh it is sooooo way to late in the game for this.

If Meeks drops out what will this do to the congressional races in FL? Will it tilt them further in the win column for the Pubs?

I just love KOS running strategy for the Dems!!!!

Kermit on October 8, 2010 at 5:28 PM

The GOP needs to do the same thing in Colorado.

Tasha on October 8, 2010 at 5:29 PM

When you watch the video watch the eyes of the lady who says Crist is the man. Her eyes tell you she is dishonest.
CWforFreedom on October 8, 2010 at 5:19 PM

I noticed the eyes too. Blinkety blink in overdrive.

Buy Danish on October 8, 2010 at 5:34 PM

I don’t know if any of you read DailyKos before the election but Kos and the crew backed Obama to get solid liberals in Office. They backed Obama because his resume WAS hard left. No they are doing the Bill Clinton/Dick Morris triangulation that they spewed curse words about before. I just want you fellow HA posters who didn’t follow Kos to know the absolute schadenfreude of watching Kos endorse a person who is a sitting Governor elected as a Republican. I can’t believe he can even look himself in the mirror to see where he helped bring the Democrats that the best deal for he and his fellow Kos’ers is a former Republican. ROTFLMAO!

Conan on October 8, 2010 at 5:37 PM

Maybe we don’t..

The War Planner on October 8, 2010 at 5:38 PM

The Principled Left

…what a joke.

Asher on October 8, 2010 at 5:39 PM

Why doesn’t Crist drop out and support Meek? Oh…yeah…that’s why.

SouthernGent on October 8, 2010 at 5:41 PM

Chutzpah is when someone kills his parents and then claims he has integrity and an orange tan.

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on October 8, 2010 at 5:41 PM

After that Nancy throw, why isn’t Meek screaming for Crist to skip away out of the contest?

Marcus on October 8, 2010 at 5:43 PM

…I just want you fellow HA posters who didn’t follow Kos to know the absolute schadenfreude of watching Kos endorse a person who is a sitting Governor elected as a Republican… . ROTFLMAO!

Conan on October 8, 2010 at 5:37 PM

Conan, that is some of the most beautiful schadenfreude I have ever seen. You have my sincere and heartfelt thanks for crawling into the Kos sewer so I and others don’t have to!

Mary in LA on October 8, 2010 at 5:45 PM

There is no way that Meek is dropping out, former President Clinton will be in FLA campaigning for him.
http://blogs.tampabay.com/buzz/2010/10/bill-clinton-heading-to-florida-to-campaign-for-kendrick-meek.html#comments

Also absentee ballots have already gone out, 2 votes for Rubio in my house.

goplibertygirl on October 8, 2010 at 5:48 PM

he’s thinking that he’ll run again at some point down the line and can’t afford to have the “quitter” stigma attached to him

DING DING DING!! We have a winner!!

JohnGalt23 on October 8, 2010 at 5:50 PM

It’s been a while since I’ve read a comment thread at Kos.

This one is pretty good.

forest on October 8, 2010 at 5:51 PM

I read some of the comments there and I found some support for Grayson as Governor. I am beginning to suspect Kosacks are extreme in their beliefs.

rob verdi on October 8, 2010 at 6:01 PM

Honestly, I adore Allah, but this has to be the Eeyor-irist of Eeyore posts I’ve ever seen…’cept for the one about the Federal Judge saying Obamacare is constitutional. :)!

Chewy the Lab on October 8, 2010 at 6:13 PM

Democrats throw another black under the bus, like so many before.

tarpon on October 8, 2010 at 6:13 PM

Too late. Deal-time has passed.

As for Meek, I think it’s only ego and delusion that keeps him in, not some notion of future “viability.”

rrpjr on October 8, 2010 at 6:15 PM

Kos is smarter than all the dolts who backed O’Donnell. I’ll give him that.

Mark1971 on October 8, 2010 at 5:03 PM

John McCain and Lindsey Graham would totally agree.

Cicero43 on October 8, 2010 at 6:15 PM

Yeah, this is why I’m still — a little — nervous about this race.

Allah, is there anything that you are not nervous about? Thank goodness you are just a blogger and not running the conservative movement. Whew!

julian on October 8, 2010 at 6:42 PM

The Kossacks are manipulating Google to help Meeks & other Dems (because they can’t compete in the realm of ideas).
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/shadow-party-daily-kos-wants-to-googlebomb-republicans-into-electoral-oblivion/

itsnotaboutme on October 8, 2010 at 6:48 PM

Too late. Deal-time has passed.
As for Meek, I think it’s only ego and delusion that keeps him in, not some notion of future “viability.”
rrpjr on October 8, 2010 at 6:15 PM

Think of this way: Meeks is working his tail off, going to rallies, raising money, meeting with supporters, cutting ads, etc. He’s probably put a lot of blood and sweat into this campaign.

And now he should step aside, throw away all of his efforts for Charlie Crist? I mean, if it was someone you respected and admired, maybe you could do that. But Charlie Crist? Hell, if he was on fire, most people wouldn’t p*ss on him to put it out – even if he had paid his $75.

PackerBronco on October 8, 2010 at 6:54 PM

If Charlie needs to be a Kos lib to get elected, he can do that. After all, he was a Jeb Bush conservative not so long ago. Before he wasn’t. We await his next transformation with bated breath.

obladioblada on October 8, 2010 at 6:57 PM

I don’t know if any of you read DailyKos…

I seldom go there but when I do, I feel so unclean that I feel the need to wash up afterwards.

Big John on October 8, 2010 at 7:30 PM

Kos/Crist. Better duck when those two weasels play catch.

Hummer53 on October 8, 2010 at 8:36 PM

If any of you have had the displeasure of seeing Kos’ Tweets, I don’t think he can speak a complete sentence or phrase without the F-word. Sure sign of negative intellect in my book.

MsUnderestimated on October 8, 2010 at 10:01 PM

For Christ’s sake man, if you’re going to go down, go down with dignity. Stand up for what you believe in and you can look back and have pride that at least you stood up. How could Meeks possibly toss it in so an orange poliwhore can go to the Senate?

Kendrick Meeks, principle is not fungible.

Immolate on October 8, 2010 at 10:22 PM

So, KOS wants to dump a black American for a orange American?

Colorist!!!!

patch on October 9, 2010 at 10:03 AM

There’s nothing to suggest all the Meeks voters will switch to Christ if he drops out. They’re voting for Meeks because they prefer him over Christ.

No doubt many Dems would back Christ just to try to keep Rubio from winning, but there will be a percentage of them who simply won’t vote because they don’t like Christ or are demoralized from Meeks pulling out.

Basically it guarantees a Rubio victory no matter how you slice it. I admit I was a bit concerned about Rubio’s chances till I did this thought experiment. Also the polls put him way ahead in both scenarios.

Fitna on October 9, 2010 at 10:12 AM